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moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I tried that, and it still keeps hanging on upon reinstallation.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you
have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until
I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























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How do
you spend it?

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moderated Re: Desktop Shortcut Problem

Bill White
 

Hi, David. Yes, I have been experiencing the same problem from time to time with the latest update to JAWS. If I close all windows and try the shortcut again, the folder usually opens with no problem.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Desktop Shortcut Problem

 

HI all,

 

Windows 10, JAWS 2020

 

In recent weeks, I have frequently heard “unavailable” when hitting a desktop shortcut. Especially the Downloads, Documents,and a few other folders. Only folders, not shortcuts to programs or web pages. Does anybody have similar problems? Does anybody have a solution? It happens quite frequently and is very annoying. And I know the desktop shortcuts have been put in correctly, so that’s not the problem.

 

Thanks for any help on this,

David

 

 

 


moderated Re: Audible.com

 

Hi Andy,

 

Sorry my Audible subscription link didn't work. I'm always a bit leery of providing links when I'm signed into an online account because they often don't work for others. I'd suggest you contact Audible directly using their contact form website found here:

 

https://www.audible.com/contactus?ref=a_hp_b1_dlp_footer_0&pf_rd_p=23f76a2e-f2a3-4461-b7a1-4c79e93aaa08&pf_rd_r=TH4NZ0VWCZQRAPNCSD6H

 

Otherwise, you can call them directly at (888) 283-5051 with your subscription questions.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Hi Allan, I don't see anything on any subscriptions except Audible escape, romance books that you borrow or 1 credit of the regularmembership for $14.95.  I am looking at another audio book club that you can download unlimited books for free for the first month and $19.95 per month each month after.  It says that you can read the books on the computer or any other means...  Not sure how the books are formatted though.  I am tempted to check it out...  Andy and Shubert

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Andrew,

 

 

I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for membership

plans:

 

 

https://www.audible.com/account/switch?ref=a_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi

tch_membership

<https://www.audible.com/account/switch?ref=a_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw

itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB

228SPT78Q1Y4H>

&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H

 

 

They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership plans.

 

 

And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to the same site:

 

 

https://tinyurl.com/wxrqlf5

 

 

Alan Lemly

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J.

LaPointe

 

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:41 PM

 

To: jfw@groups.io

 

Subject: Audible.com

 

 

Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum membership plan?  It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly.  Of course, there are no customer reps there at this time.  Thank you

 

 

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

 

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

 

34 Raymond Ave.

 

Salem, MA. 01970

 

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

 

 

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Desktop Shortcut Problem

David Kingsbury
 

HI all,

 

Windows 10, JAWS 2020

 

In recent weeks, I have frequently heard “unavailable” when hitting a desktop shortcut. Especially the Downloads, Documents,and a few other folders. Only folders, not shortcuts to programs or web pages. Does anybody have similar problems? Does anybody have a solution? It happens quite frequently and is very annoying. And I know the desktop shortcuts have been put in correctly, so that’s not the problem.

 

Thanks for any help on this,

David

 

 

 


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Don Mauck
 

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

John Covici
 

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but
you have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and
Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when
I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse
mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i
without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute
before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point
at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I
unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of
my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and
it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i think
its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was
working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to
Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've turned off
updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Audible.com

James English
 

Hello,

In the UK audible is 7.99 per month, or at least it was in 2008 when
we set up our account. I'm one of those 'few long-term members' who
still uses a username to log in.

On 3/27/20, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:
Thanks Richard. I have an account currently and it doesn’t offer me
anything but the escape membership or the $14.95 per credit per month.
Maybe I’ll try that and see if it kicks in other offers….At this time, I
have no membership plan but, have a credit that they gave me due to one of
the books I purchased a few years ago disappeared from my Library.. I bet
you that if I do sign up to the $14.95 membership that it will kick in…I
think that that is the difference. I trully appreciate what you do for
email lists for those of us that are not that savy with many of computer and
phone teck. Andy and Shubert



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com



I currently have the Light membership which just gets me some discounts and
costs, $9.95 per year..

If you do not have an account, you may want to set up one just to get
through to the next screen. After logging in from Alan's link, this is what
I got. Gold Monthly


1 Credit/Mo.


You pay $14.95per credit

$14.95 per month

Platinum Monthly


2 Credits/Mo.


You pay $11.48per credit

$22.95 per month

Gold Annual Special


12 Credits/Yr.


You pay $9.96 per credit in year one, $12.46 per credit thereafter

$119.50 1st year, $149.50/yr. thereafter

All Gold and Platinum membership plans include

* Exclusive member-only savings. Get 30% off any additional
audiobooks

* Keep your books forever

* Exchange any audiobooks you don’t love

* Two free Audible Original titles every month from our curated
selection

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Richard

"There's a nap for that."

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...>
wrote:

Hi Allan, I don't see anything on any subscriptions except Audible escape,
romance books that you borrow or 1 credit of the regularmembership for
$14.95. I am looking at another audio book club that you can download
unlimited books for free for the first month and $19.95 per month each
month
after. It says that you can read the books on the computer or any other
means... Not sure how the books are formatted though. I am tempted to
check it out... Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

Andrew,



I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link
from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the
Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for
membership
plans:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=LbF7FbSSomtkpaNCzLtpM%2F5xR%2BxVI4GMaQ5UslfLHN4%3D&amp;reserved=0
tch_membership
<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=nOIAveCYlAAxKYsqazFRMQkiPGOpBthFhJaY4DqDaJ0%3D&amp;reserved=0
itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB
228SPT78Q1Y4H>
&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H



They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership
plans.



And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to
the same site:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fwxrqlf5&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=obtQGfqMREMvm0a4gGaqyFy9hxm5Aw1oENkODsZIPus%3D&amp;reserved=0



Alan Lemly



-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:41 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Audible.com



Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan? It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly. Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time. Thank you



Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185



Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center
























moderated Re: Audible.com

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Thanks Richard.  I have an account currently and it doesn’t offer me anything but the escape membership or the $14.95 per credit per month.  Maybe I’ll try that and see if it kicks in other offers….At this time, I have no membership plan but, have a credit that they gave me due to one of the books I purchased a few years ago disappeared from my Library..  I bet you that if I do sign up to the $14.95 membership that it will kick in…I think that that is the difference.  I trully appreciate what you do for email lists for those of us that are not that savy with many of computer and phone teck.  Andy and Shubert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

I currently have the Light membership which just gets me some discounts and costs, $9.95 per year..

If you do not have an account, you may want to set up one just to get through to the next screen. After logging in from Alan's link, this is what I got. Gold Monthly

1 Credit/Mo.

You pay $14.95per credit

$14.95 per month

Platinum Monthly

2 Credits/Mo.

You pay $11.48per credit

$22.95 per month

Gold Annual Special

12 Credits/Yr.

You pay $9.96 per credit in year one, $12.46 per credit thereafter

$119.50 1st year, $149.50/yr. thereafter

All Gold and Platinum membership plans include

·         Exclusive member-only savings. Get 30% off any additional audiobooks

·         Keep your books forever

·         Exchange any audiobooks you don’t love

·         Two free Audible Original titles every month from our curated selection

 



Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 



On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hi Allan, I don't see anything on any subscriptions except Audible escape,
romance books that you borrow or 1 credit of the regularmembership for
$14.95.  I am looking at another audio book club that you can download
unlimited books for free for the first month and $19.95 per month each month
after.  It says that you can read the books on the computer or any other
means...  Not sure how the books are formatted though.  I am tempted to
check it out...  Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

Andrew,



I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link
from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the
Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for membership
plans:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=LbF7FbSSomtkpaNCzLtpM%2F5xR%2BxVI4GMaQ5UslfLHN4%3D&amp;reserved=0
tch_membership
<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=nOIAveCYlAAxKYsqazFRMQkiPGOpBthFhJaY4DqDaJ0%3D&amp;reserved=0
itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB
228SPT78Q1Y4H>
&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H



They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership
plans.



And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to
the same site:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fwxrqlf5&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=obtQGfqMREMvm0a4gGaqyFy9hxm5Aw1oENkODsZIPus%3D&amp;reserved=0



Alan Lemly



-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:41 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Audible.com



Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan?  It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly.  Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time.  Thank you



Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185



Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center

















moderated A couple of Jaws problems

Dennis Brown
 

Hi,

How do I get the Delete key to say “Delete?”

Second, When I put a script in MyExtensions.jss, then compile, then compile the default.jss (since it calls MyExtensions.jsb,) the script doesn’t work.

If I put it directly in Outlook script file, it does.

Other scripts in MyExtensions work, but some don’t.

I’ve made sure the keystroke isn’t being used elsewhere, but still no go.

Any ideas?


moderated Re: Audible.com

Richard Turner
 

All Gold and Platinum membership plans include
  • Exclusive member-only savings. Get 30% off any additional audiobooks
  • Keep your books forever
  • Exchange any audiobooks you don’t love
  • Two free Audible Original titles every month from our curated selection



Richard
"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hi Allan, I don't see anything on any subscriptions except Audible escape,
romance books that you borrow or 1 credit of the regularmembership for
$14.95.  I am looking at another audio book club that you can download
unlimited books for free for the first month and $19.95 per month each month
after.  It says that you can read the books on the computer or any other
means...  Not sure how the books are formatted though.  I am tempted to
check it out...  Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

Andrew,



I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link
from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the
Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for membership
plans:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=LbF7FbSSomtkpaNCzLtpM%2F5xR%2BxVI4GMaQ5UslfLHN4%3D&amp;reserved=0
tch_membership
<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=nOIAveCYlAAxKYsqazFRMQkiPGOpBthFhJaY4DqDaJ0%3D&amp;reserved=0
itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB
228SPT78Q1Y4H>
&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H



They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership
plans.



And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to
the same site:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fwxrqlf5&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=obtQGfqMREMvm0a4gGaqyFy9hxm5Aw1oENkODsZIPus%3D&amp;reserved=0



Alan Lemly



-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:41 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Audible.com



Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan?  It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly.  Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time.  Thank you



Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185



Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center


















moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I run Firefox version 52.6.0, JAWS 15, and Windows 7 Build 6.1.7600.16385.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 3:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Let's attempt to isolate the issue. The goal here is to determine if fire fox
is compatible with the version of windows you are running.


You may need sided help here. Be my eyes would be a good tool to use.

Stop jaws and then start fire fox. If the issue persists you're screwed. You'll
need to upgrade either windows and or jaws if you want to continue using the
latest browsers which will run on windows.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:24 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison
<foristnights@...> wrote:

The Firefox version I've attempted to install was made in I think 2016
or 2017, the exact date I'm not sure, but it's Firefox version 52.6.0,
the last one that I know of that is compatible with JAWS 15.0. As for
Chrome, I don't use that browser, just Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

1. Have you tested with the chrome browser to see if you get the same
behavior?

2. Have you tried installing a version of fire fox that was available
before February, when this issue first started occurring?

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 27, 2020, at 2:07 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison
<foristnights@...> wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when
I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I
press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox,
the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse
mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i
without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute
before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point
at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I
unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back
of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not responding",
and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i think
its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was
working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to
Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've turned off
updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?



































moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when
I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse
mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i
without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute
before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point
at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I
unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of
my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and
it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i think
its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was
working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to
Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've turned off
updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

It started with the 32-bit version. So I switched to the 64-bit version,
thinking that would speed up the response time, but something happened along
the way, which I'm not sure what.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of
windows
7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

That's strange! How is the 64-bit version more unstable than the 32-bit
version of Firefox 52.6.0?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of
windows
7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?


moderated Re: Audible.com

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi Allan, I don't see anything on any subscriptions except Audible escape,
romance books that you borrow or 1 credit of the regularmembership for
$14.95. I am looking at another audio book club that you can download
unlimited books for free for the first month and $19.95 per month each month
after. It says that you can read the books on the computer or any other
means... Not sure how the books are formatted though. I am tempted to
check it out... Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

Andrew,



I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link
from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the
Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for membership
plans:



https://www.audible.com/account/switch?ref=a_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi
tch_membership
<https://www.audible.com/account/switch?ref=a_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw
itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB
228SPT78Q1Y4H>
&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H



They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership
plans.



And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to
the same site:



https://tinyurl.com/wxrqlf5



Alan Lemly



-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:41 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Audible.com



Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan? It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly. Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time. Thank you



Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185



Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center


moderated Re: Office.com with JAWS

Shai
 

Hello Sharon,
Yes I would recommend that you enable the light version of Outlook on
the web. This would make it easier for you to use with JAWS.

On 3/27/20, Sharon Clark <sharonjackson03@...> wrote:
Hello,



Since working from home, my agency has us using office.com to access our
emails. Are there any shortcut keys or sufficient ways of navigating this
online platform using JAWS?



Thank You,

Sharon









moderated COVID-19 and Vision Loss, Hadley.edu

Richard Turner
 

From: Ricky Enger <podcast@...>

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 9:20 AM

Subject: New: COVID-19 and Vision Loss

 

COVID-19 and Vision Loss

The COVID-19 crisis has brought a wave of change and uncertainty to our everyday lives. Listen in as we share personal experiences, resources and some helpful tips...all from a blind or low vision perspective.

 

Listen Now: https://hadley.edu/hadleypresents/episode.asp?episode=COVID_19_and_vision_loss&utm_source=ESS+Learner+List&utm_campaign=c4fc7c7a5f-hadleypresents-ep16-ess_3-27-2020&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_01363d0cec-c4fc7c7a5f-47909825&mc_cid=c4fc7c7a5f&mc_eid=c2a27d82ae

 

A downloadable transcript is available on our site:

https://hadley.edu/hadleypresents/episode.asp?episode=COVID_19_and_vision_loss&utm_source=ESS+Learner+List&utm_campaign=c4fc7c7a5f-hadleypresents-ep16-ess_3-27-2020&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_01363d0cec-c4fc7c7a5f-47909825&mc_cid=c4fc7c7a5f&mc_eid=c2a27d82ae

 

Have a suggestion for a future episode? Email us at podcast@... or call the Hadley Presents podcast line at (847) 784-2870

 

 


moderated Re: Audible.com

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Yes, I plan to visit that within a half hour.  I will let you know.. Andy and Shubert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Alan sent a link to a page where the Gold membership still exists, did you see that message?

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 6:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Hi Richard, thank you.  I did notice that there is an audible book firm that for $19.95 per month, you get unlimited downloads and the first month is free. 

Allyoucanbooks.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Well, it does look like the Gold and Platnum plans are gone, but this is what it says on the page when I searched for Gold membership.

New! Audible members now get MORE 

2 Audible Originals and 1 audiobook every month. Listen in the Audible app. 

Audible is $14.95/mo. Cancel anytime. 

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 26, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan?  It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly.  Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time.  Thank you

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center



moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Mario
 

for NVDA, there is an addon for VLC. do you have it installed?

I don't have any problem using Winamp on Windows 10, but someone mentioned about the VLC addon for NVDA, and in my case, it would be nice to have an alternative, just in case Winamp gets wonky.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 12:35 PM
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?
nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?


There are masses of keystroke which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10, and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel









.


moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

You can use the touch cursor to glean certain info -- I've found that that works, but it is a pain. I feel I used to get more info from jAWS using vlc, and I'm not quite sure what has changed. There were always finnicky weird things, like going into advanced preferences sometimes resulting in the dialogue not reading properly, but now I can't get much feedback the standard way. Weird. Still use it all the time for videos though of course.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 27, 2020 7:54 AM
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel