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moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Mario
 

for NVDA, there is an addon for VLC. do you have it installed?

I don't have any problem using Winamp on Windows 10, but someone mentioned about the VLC addon for NVDA, and in my case, it would be nice to have an alternative, just in case Winamp gets wonky.

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 12:35 PM
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?
nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?


There are masses of keystroke which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10, and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel









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moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

You can use the touch cursor to glean certain info -- I've found that that works, but it is a pain. I feel I used to get more info from jAWS using vlc, and I'm not quite sure what has changed. There were always finnicky weird things, like going into advanced preferences sometimes resulting in the dialogue not reading properly, but now I can't get much feedback the standard way. Weird. Still use it all the time for videos though of course.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 27, 2020 7:54 AM
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?


There are masses of keystroke which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10, and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


moderated Office.com with JAWS

Sharon Clark
 

Hello,

 

Since working from home, my agency has us using office.com to access our emails.  Are there any shortcut keys or sufficient ways of navigating this online platform using JAWS?

 

Thank You,

Sharon

 

 


moderated Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

Mario
 

$150. the $30 discount only applies if you opted for the free JAWS offer until June 30, at which time the Typability will also expire. the discounted offer for Typability only works with the free offer for JAWS. they are working on a version of Typability that will work with non expiring versions of JAWS, but even then the Typability will expire on June 30. so the price for Typability is still and will always be $150.


offer

-------- Original Message --------
From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 12:12 PM
Subject: Typability From yesaccessibility.com
How much does this product cost?

**

*Tim Ford*

**

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*James Malone
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:50 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

The one good thing about David Pinto is that he makes this program fun
and rewarding in its own way. He spends thousands of hours perfecting
his scripts, and will provide help and documentation for his work. And
most important, he’ll make it work with Jaws, not no silly animation
such as Talking Typing Teacher.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *JM
Casey
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:41 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s
always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like  the disabled,
certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that
the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated.

I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly
remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s
when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most
software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few
fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use
of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech
synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to
you. Fun times. Haha

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* March 26, 2020 11:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the
Blind.  Mostly among the newly Blind.

However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is
despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind.

I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it
exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and
spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the
disabled,  and get a real job.

It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to
twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the
general public because of its limited market.

That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies
purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a
million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of
complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software.

I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't
understand how business works.  And I find it even worse when the
disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters,
especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income.

But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing
program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate
some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I
don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that
one.  So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only
need to be free to consumers.  Perhaps they should operate like some
programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

*From:*James Malone <mailto:malone_j@...>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:14 AM

*Subject:*Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

To be honest with you, I would have to agree. Talking Typing Teacher
although it is very helpful for training, I find that The company
that created the program isn’t helpful to its clients, and don’t let
your system break down. You will have to perches the program again,
meaning that you can only use it for the life of your hard drive. A
lot of people don’t know this. You are allowed to download the
software three times, but anything after three times you get no
reset codes, and unless you buy directly from them they will not
honor anyone buying outside of their company. Stores like Maxi aides
or an on-line company that sell their product cannot make any
decisions to reset your three activations.

Now, I’ve had dealings with the creator of the scripts, and decided
to move my clients over to Fun with Typability, because it’s set up
for the Jaws user.

They will work with you as well when it comes down to helpful hints
and training methods.

James

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Feliciano G
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

Hi?

This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it
over talking typing teacher. All  you get is if you sessions for
free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program
is not usable until you purchase a license.

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates:

LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
<http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>

Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>

Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
<http://www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v>

those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are
the ones who do. -Steve Jobs

On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Thabo Baseki
<THAB0.BASEKI@... <mailto:THAB0.BASEKI@...>> wrote:



Hi friends!

I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.

In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has
anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if
not, please dear friends let me know.

Thank you!

Best

Thabo

JAWS certified-2020


http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certification


moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

I love VlC. No scripts anywhere to my knowledge.
Now here's the thing. I used to be able to access the various VLC dialogues, like the preferences ... th eyw ere a bit finnicky with speech but they were usable.
Lately, I can't get anything from them. I don’t' know if this is my setup somehow or if vlc has changed something. But I'm not happy -- I need to adjust the equaliser for certain things and now I can't. it's a pain, though I'm sure with VlC, there are probably other ways to do it like straight from the command line that I'm not aware of. Haha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: March 27, 2020 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

it's a shame that FS hasn't provided scripts for VLC yet.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 10:38 AM
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

There are masses of keystroke which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10, and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel






.


moderated Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

Tim Ford
 

How much does this product cost? 

 

Tim Ford

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

The one good thing about David Pinto is that he makes this program fun and rewarding in its own way. He spends thousands of hours perfecting his scripts, and will provide help and documentation for his work. And most important, he’ll make it work with Jaws, not no silly animation such as Talking Typing Teacher.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like  the disabled, certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated.

 

I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to you. Fun times. Haha

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: March 26, 2020 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind.  Mostly among the newly Blind.

However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind.

I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled,  and get a real job.

It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market.

That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software.

I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works.  And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income.

But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one.  So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers.  Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.

 

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:14 AM

Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

To be honest with you, I would have to agree. Talking Typing Teacher although it is very helpful for training, I find that The company that created the program isn’t helpful to its clients, and don’t let your system break down. You will have to perches the program again, meaning that you can only use it for the life of your hard drive. A lot of people don’t know this. You are allowed to download the software three times, but anything after three times you get no reset codes, and unless you buy directly from them they will not honor anyone buying outside of their company. Stores like Maxi aides or an on-line company that sell their product cannot make any decisions to reset your three activations.

Now, I’ve had dealings with the creator of the scripts, and decided to move my clients over to Fun with Typability, because it’s set up for the Jaws user.

They will work with you as well when it comes down to helpful hints and training methods.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Hi?

This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it over talking typing teacher. All  you get is if you sessions for free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program is not usable until you purchase a license.

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates: 

those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs 

 

On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:



Hi friends!

 

I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.

 

In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know.

 

Thank you!

 

Best

Thabo

 

 

 


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

netbat66
 

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of windows 7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?


moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Mario
 

it's a shame that FS hasn't provided scripts for VLC yet.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 10:38 AM
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

There are masses of keystroke which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10, and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel






.


moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

David Griffith
 

There are masses of keystroke which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10, and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


moderated Re: Help with JFW scripting

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Look for the sharepoint script file for examples.


moderated Re: Zoom and Skype scripts?

Richard Turner
 

Doug Lee has several flavors of Skype scripts on his page;
https://www.dlee.org/

Jonathan Mosen has made his audio tutorial for Zoom free and he also has a link on his page to get the basic zoom scripts free. Here is the link to the page where you can get the audio book followed by the link for the Zoom scripts.
https://mosen.org/zoom/

Hartgen Consultancy have produced free JAWS scripts which enhance the Zoom Cloud Meeting experience even further. Download the free JAWS scripts.
http://www.hartgen.org/zoom



We wish you health, safety, and very frequently-washed hands during these challenging times.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Zoom and Skype scripts?

I think I heard or read somewhere that there are scripts for the Zoom conferencing Program? And Skype ones? Thanks for info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


moderated Re: Audible.com

Richard Turner
 

Alan sent a link to a page where the Gold membership still exists, did you see that message?

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 6:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Hi Richard, thank you.  I did notice that there is an audible book firm that for $19.95 per month, you get unlimited downloads and the first month is free. 

Allyoucanbooks.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Well, it does look like the Gold and Platnum plans are gone, but this is what it says on the page when I searched for Gold membership.

New! Audible members now get MORE 

2 Audible Originals and 1 audiobook every month. Listen in the Audible app. 

Audible is $14.95/mo. Cancel anytime. 

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 26, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan?  It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly.  Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time.  Thank you

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center




moderated Re: jfw and outlook web mail

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Robbie,
At my last job, we had Outlook on our work computers and we accessed Microsoft Exchange for our web mail.
The URL was mail.outlook.com/
When I was using it last year, there was a link at the top called
light version
and that made it accessible.
HTH.
 
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: jfw and outlook web mail

Hello All,

I’ve been sent home to work, and I have to use Outlook Web Mail. It seems to be accessible, but a little clunky. Can anyone give me any advice? Does anyone have a list of hotkey? 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Annabelle,
I suggest that you go with a new FireFox.
At least it will function, and currently you are not having any luck with the version you are using.
Also, Chrome should be okay with your Jaws.
Also, if you should find something that your Jaws can manage on those browsers, it would be good to have an up-to-date NVDA installed which can help you through something if your older Jaws cannot.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding


The Firefox version I've attempted to install was made in I think 2016 or
2017, the exact date I'm not sure, but it's Firefox version 52.6.0, the last
one that I know of that is compatible with JAWS 15.0. As for Chrome, I don't
use that browser, just Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

1. Have you tested with the chrome browser to see if you get the same
behavior?

2. Have you tried installing a version of fire fox that was available before
February, when this issue first started occurring?

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 27, 2020, at 2:07 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison
<foristnights@...> wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when
I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse
mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i
without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute
before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point
at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I
unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of
my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and
it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i think
its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was
working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to
Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've turned off
updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?


































moderated jfw and outlook web mail

Robbie Miller
 

Hello All,

I’ve been sent home to work, and I have to use Outlook Web Mail. It seems to be accessible, but a little clunky. Can anyone give me any advice? Does anyone have a list of hotkey? 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 


moderated Re: Audible.com

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi Richard, thank you.  I did notice that there is an audible book firm that for $19.95 per month, you get unlimited downloads and the first month is free. 

Allyoucanbooks.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Well, it does look like the Gold and Platnum plans are gone, but this is what it says on the page when I searched for Gold membership.

New! Audible members now get MORE 

2 Audible Originals and 1 audiobook every month. Listen in the Audible app. 

Audible is $14.95/mo. Cancel anytime. 









Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 



On Mar 26, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan?  It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly.  Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time.  Thank you

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center





moderated Re: Audible.com

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Thank you Allan. I will look into this. It is a great opportunity if you
can still get it. Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

Andrew,



I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link
from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the
Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for membership
plans:



https://www.audible.com/account/switch?ref=a_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi
tch_membership
<https://www.audible.com/account/switch?ref=a_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw
itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB
228SPT78Q1Y4H>
&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H



They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership
plans.



And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to
the same site:



https://tinyurl.com/wxrqlf5



Alan Lemly



-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:41 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Audible.com



Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan? It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly. Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time. Thank you



Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185



Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center


moderated Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...>
 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

John Covici
 

To get firefox to work correctly, you need to upgrade it to its latest
version and upgrade Jaws to 2020, otherwise I am afraid you are
stuck. You can't use the new Edge either, so I am not sure what to
tell you as to which browser you could use these days.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 05:24:06 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

The Firefox version I've attempted to install was made in I think 2016 or
2017, the exact date I'm not sure, but it's Firefox version 52.6.0, the last
one that I know of that is compatible with JAWS 15.0. As for Chrome, I don't
use that browser, just Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

1. Have you tested with the chrome browser to see if you get the same
behavior?

2. Have you tried installing a version of fire fox that was available before
February, when this issue first started occurring?

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 27, 2020, at 2:07 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison
<foristnights@...> wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when
I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse
mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i
without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute
before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point
at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I
unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of
my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and
it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i think
its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was
working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to
Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've turned off
updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?


































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you spend it?

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