On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 04:53 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:

IE is still secure and may not even be as nosey as Chrome.

Nothing is as nosy as the Google Chrome browser, on that we agree.

However, IE cannot be considered secure by modern standards, and no matter how often anyone says, "it's secure," there is no one, including Microsoft, that recommends its ongoing use except when it's the only option.  And at this point (and that's not Microsoft's fault) it should never be "the only option."  Organizations that have sites where it still is need to have objections raised.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

On Mar 20, 2020, at 10:20 PM, Judy Redlich <jredlichspeaks@...> wrote:



Hey David,

Your zoom meeting tonight was great.

Lots of good questions and lots of helpful answers.

Thanks for hosting it.

 

You are right about Freedom Scientific help screens not being as clear as they could be. .  I started with version 3.0 and really learned Jaws on my own, asking questions along the way.  Have taken quite a few of F.s.’s webinars, too. 

 

I had about 5 other questions that might help in choosing topics for these Friday night tech sessions:

 

 

Questions from Judy:

What is the best screen reader to use for any of the google products?

 

What tips do you offer in navigating the web based version of office 365?

 

 

We have a new digital phone  system that ties us together throughout the world.  Each of us has a 5 digit extension.  .  Does anyone else use a digital phone system and where can you find hot keys for using it with Jaws?  I need to find out the name of it before question is asked. Actually using it with ear phones on the computer works much better than the hand set.

 

Does anyone use sales force with jaws well? Tips please?

 

Thanks much.

Judy

P.S. by the way, what microphone were you using for this conference?    I am looking for a good quality mike and head set that has a USB port that can plug into my computer.

.   ,

 

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 6:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time

 

Larry,

That's fabulous. Your presence will definitely enrich the experience. Many thanks.

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/18/2020 7:14 AM, Larry Gassman wrote:

David,

I will be there.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 3:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time

 

The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at home. Some of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying home to stay safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or quarantine. Even before all of this began there have been many opportunities for online training using meeting platforms such as Zoom. Now that more of us are forced to stay in our homes the opportunities for remote training and assistance will likely increase.

A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering topics from a Windows perspective.

I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is enough interest in such a project.

The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing as a stupid question.

For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s technical support.

In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in, “Go ahead, John.”

I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar workshops for NVDA users?

I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops. Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater

Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.

 

Topic: JAWS, Just Because

Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.

https://zoom.us/j/3565857579

 

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

 

One tap mobile

+19294362866,,3565857579# US (New York)

+13126266799,,3565857579# US (Chicago)

 

Dial by your location

 

929 436 2866 US (New York)

        +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)

        +1 301 715 8592 US

        +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)

        +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

        +1 253 215 8782 US

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC

David,

I will be there.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 3:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time

 

The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at home. Some of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying home to stay safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or quarantine. Even before all of this began there have been many opportunities for online training using meeting platforms such as Zoom. Now that more of us are forced to stay in our homes the opportunities for remote training and assistance will likely increase.

A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering topics from a Windows perspective.

I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is enough interest in such a project.

The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing as a stupid question.

For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s technical support.

In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in, “Go ahead, John.”

I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar workshops for NVDA users?

I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops. Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater

Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.

 

Topic: JAWS, Just Because

Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.

https://zoom.us/j/3565857579

 

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

 

One tap mobile

+19294362866,,3565857579# US (New York)

+13126266799,,3565857579# US (Chicago)

 

Dial by your location

 

929 436 2866 US (New York)

        +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)

        +1 301 715 8592 US

        +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)

        +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

        +1 253 215 8782 US

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC

I have Outlook 2010, and there is an easy work-around to this issue.  Just highlight what you want to spell-check, then the F7 key works just fine and launches spell-check.  To make this easy, when you are at the bottom of your note, highlight what you wrote by using shift + home.  Otherwise, control + a selects everything.

I have reported this several times to JAWS, but they have never fixed it.

Tim Ford

Heya Folks,

For ages now on previous versions of Jaws as well as this latest version have always had huge problems with lagging during and using of the Microsoft Outlook 2010 Spell checker, there’s never been a fix for this is it just me with this issue or is there others out there too? Am running Windows 7, 64bit Home edition.

Cheers,

Jim

I do not know what the processes for non-US users to engage with support.

Also hopefully you’ll have better luck than I do. Every time I called,
they tandems into my computer and all of a sudden the copy started to work.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki
<nuno69a@gmail.com>
wrote:

Can I call them outside the US? I am willing to do it even now.
BTW, a funny thing has happened. Your message said something along
the lines “We can only report it to support”, right after my TTS
finished reading it I heard a message from Outlook: “Not available
outside the open message”

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

I agree. Only thing we can do is keep reporting it to support.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki
<nuno69a@gmail.com>
wrote:

I don’t like it, honestly. Is there anything we can do about it?
That’s a basic thing that should be fixed.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

I have the same issue with Firefox.
Think this is a known design flaw with jaws, which they have not been
able to fix.
Would suggest calling support to see if they can provide any help.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi list,
Sometimes when in Chrome, I cannot copy the selection to the
clipboard. It happens only with JAWS, and only with Chrome. What shall. I do?

Heya Folks,

For ages now on previous versions of Jaws as well as this latest version have always had huge problems with lagging during and using of the Microsoft Outlook 2010 Spell checker, there’s never been a fix for this is it just me with this issue or is there others out there too? Am running Windows 7, 64bit Home edition.

Cheers,

Jim

Some websites won’t let the checkbox be checked until you enter the text they want. My challenge: even if I use the audible and hear the letters and/or numbers, I can’t always get them typed into the place where they should go.

Shirley

Shirley Tracy

Hello,

I’m having trouble with trying to communicate with a business via email from their web site.  When it says “I’m not a robot checkbox not checked it will not allow me to check that to let them know I’m not a robot.  I’ve tried pressing the space bar and I’ve tried pressing enter to no avail.  Is there another way to get that checked to say “I’m not a robot checkbox checked?

Thank you for any help.

Laura

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If you have a smart phone, the Kindle app works fine with either Talkback on Android, or VoiceOver on an iPhone.

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From: Brian Vogel

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 3:49 PM

Subject: Re: i agree about i e. but...

And, seriously, when that occurs loud complaints should be made to the entities in control of those websites.

It is insane to have people forced into using what is well known to be an insecure browser to enter credit card data.  It would not shock me, though I haven't checked, that it could very well be a violation of PCI compliance to allow IE use with credit card information.

Internet Explorer is not secure, period, and it is up to entities handling financially or otherwise sensitive information to get off their duffs and update their sites to use secure and modern browsers.
--

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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Hello,

I’m having trouble with trying to communicate with a business via email from their web site.  When it says “I’m not a robot checkbox not checked it will not allow me to check that to let them know I’m not a robot.  I’ve tried pressing the space bar and I’ve tried pressing enter to no avail.  Is there another way to get that checked to say “I’m not a robot checkbox checked?

Thank you for any help.

Laura

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 7:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom



Recently I have lost speech on several occasions whilst typing. My husband has so far always been able to recover speech. This time we are having a lot of problems and cannot get speech to work properly again. Is it possible to unload jaws and then reload it with jaws defaults? Or is there another way to tackle this? I want to upgrade to jaws 20, but don't think I should do this until I have resolve my current problem.

Sentr from my iPhone by Alison may

0777 315 8181





To switch JAWS to run the default settings, press Insert_Space, z. Do it again to switch to your personal settings.



Upgrading to JAWS 2020 might just solve your problem. Fixing a problem in an older version of JAWS doesn’t affect the newer version, so that is a possible fix.







On 20 Mar 2020, at 3:21 am, Judy Redlich <jredlichspeaks@gmail.com> wrote:

?

I really like using zoom. We use it for meetings all the time. I use it with jaws on my laptop. All without others hearing the meeting, you can take notes in word or in a text file, and hear all your jaws commands. If you are the organizer, you even hear the chat messages.

Judy

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom



I haven’t used the Zoom platform with JAWS yet, but I find the iPhone app for Zoom really easy to use thus far, as long as you have an earpiece with microphone so that people don’t hear voicover talking. If I were doing a class with Zoom, I might run Zoom from my phone, leaving my laptop open for taking notes.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: zoom




I copied the info and pasted it after the link to the Zoom support page on hotkeys:


https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205683899-Hot-Keys-and-Keyboard-Shortcuts-for-Zoom?mobile_site=true <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.zoom.us_hc_en-2Dus_articles_205683899-2DHot-2DKeys-2Dand-2DKeyboard-2DShortcuts-2Dfor-2DZoom-3Fmobile-5Fsite-3Dtrue&d=DwMGaQ&c=Y1KkN7JyAPjrAJTUCirS0fy9vQY8xn4_Oh4EEEpbXx4&r=-1nxI1tr9hKnIWNyLOCPlqI9Rh0Aj118fOCkSudZWTI&m=2cfEY6o-7oQu07l5etYxszXC1Gi6OOnVmnlPBEhWiTY&s=MCCb9-ha_8f9x4razIe3eW7_IbpzPDgDsQa0gMbuqG4&e=>








<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.zoom.us_hc_en-2Dus_articles_205683899-2DHot-2DKeys-2Dand-2DKeyboard-2DShortcuts-2Dfor-2DZoom-3Fmobile-5Fsite-3Dtrue-23collapsePC&d=DwMGaQ&c=Y1KkN7JyAPjrAJTUCirS0fy9vQY8xn4_Oh4EEEpbXx4&r=-1nxI1tr9hKnIWNyLOCPlqI9Rh0Aj118fOCkSudZWTI&m=2cfEY6o-7oQu07l5etYxszXC1Gi6OOnVmnlPBEhWiTY&s=34tujM4vpDXfBu7Hm3WnxomR6L0k6cIeWr6e0Sgut2w&e=> Windows


You can view and edit keyboard shortcuts in your Accessibility settings.

1. Log in to your Zoom desktop client.

2. Click your profile picture then click Settings.


3. Click Keyboard Shortcuts.


4. The keyboard shortcuts will appear.


Editing Shortcuts


You can edit a shortcut by clicking on the shortcut and then pressing the shortcut key that you would like to use.

Some of the shortcuts can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check the option next to the shortcut.


Available Keyboard Shortcuts


* F6: Navigate among Zoom popup windows.

* Ctrl+Alt+Shift: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls

* PageUp: View previous 25 video stream in gallery view

* PageDown: View next 25 video stream in gallery view

* Alt: Turn on/off the option Always show meeting control toolbar in Accessibility Settings

* Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting

* Alt+F2: Switch to gallery video view in video meeting

* Alt+F4: Close the current window

* Alt+V: Start/Stop Video

* Alt+A: Mute/unmute audio

* Alt+M: Mute/unmute audio for everyone except host Note: For the meeting host only

* Alt+S: Launch share screen window and stop screen share Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus

* Alt+Shift+S: Start/stop new screen share Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus

* Alt+T: Pause or resume screen share Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus

* Alt+R: Start/stop local recording

* Alt+C: Start/stop cloud recording

* Alt+P: Pause or resume recording

* Alt+N: Switch camera

* Alt+F: Enter or exit full screen

* Alt+H: Display/hide In-Meeting Chat panel

* Alt+U:Display/hide Participants panel

* Alt+I: Open Invite window

* Alt+Y: Raise/lower hand

* Alt+Shift+R: Gain Remote Control

* Alt+Shift+G: Stop Remote Control

* Ctrl+2: Read active speaker name

* Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H: Show/Hide floating meeting controls

* Alt+Shift+T: Screenshot

* Switch to Portrait/Landscape View: Alt+L

* Ctrl+W: Close current chat session

* Ctrl+Up: Go to previous chat

* Ctrl+Down: Go to next chat

* Ctrl+T: Jump to chat with someone

* Ctrl+F: Search

* Ctrl+Tab: Move to the next tab (right)

* Ctrl+Shift+Tab: Move to the previous tab (left)







Richard

"There's a nap for that."

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On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Judy <bunchkinbear@sbcglobal.net <mailto:bunchkinbear@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

?

Hi, any tips or pointers on using Zoom would be greatly appreciated. I was able to set up an account, but had some problems with settings and muting/unmuting etc. Need to learn this fast as a class I’m in is going online for discussions. Using Jaws 2019 and windows 10. Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby

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Hi list,

Could you please tell me how I can make shortcuts of programmes/apps on desktop?

Cheers,

Gezim