Try this:

Alt then arrow over to view.

Arrow down, then tab to arrange by button and hit enter.

Tab to show in groups and uncheck with space bar.

This should kick you out and should be good.

I am using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, and Outlook 13 I believe.

HTH,

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

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Not working, are you sure this is correct?

I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.

To turn it back on do the same.

HTH,

Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

Thanks,

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Pricing Analyst

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your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

Hi,

What happens if you switch to windows 10 mail?

Thanks,

Jessica

Same annoying issue here as well.  

My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...

Rick

Hello,

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

Al

Where exactly are you finding the word expanded?

In my list of mail box folders, mine say open or closed.

Hi,

Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is  spoken twice.

It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.

Definitely very annoying

Does anyone know of a fix?

Thanks,

Jesica

.

I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

Regards,

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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Hello,

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

Al

Same annoying issue here as well.  

My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...

Rick

Hello,

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

Al

My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...

Rick

Hello,

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

Al

Not working, are you sure this is correct?

I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.

To turn it back on do the same.

HTH,

Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

Thanks,

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

You must have your messages threaded by conversations, I don’t, so I never hear the word expanded.

Hi,

If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.

Thanks,

Jessica

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.

To turn it back on do the same.

HTH,

Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

Thanks,

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I am going to join in order to listen to it, possibly answer someone
and maybe ask something? I’d be interested in learning MS Access with
jFW, but there are people with bigger needs…

Od: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> W imieniu David Goldfield
Wysłano: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:51 AM
Do: main@jfw.groups.io
Temat: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help
for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time



The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at
home. Some of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying
home to stay safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or
quarantine. Even before all of this began there have been many
opportunities for online training using meeting platforms such as
Zoom. Now that more of us are forced to stay in our homes the
opportunities for remote training and assistance will likely increase.

A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug
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provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked
the format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity
covering topics from a Windows perspective.

I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely
be the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming
there is enough interest in such a project.

The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is
scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This
conference will allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask
questions as well as to provide answers to those who use the JAWS
screen reader. No question is too basic or too esoteric and it should
be stressed that there is no such thing as a stupid question.

For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First,
anyone with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second,
I’m hoping that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will
also consider participating to share knowledge. Due to time
constraints we won’t have time to provide lengthy support or to tandem
into a user’s machine. Questions which require this type of
intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s technical support.

In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a
similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who
wish to ask a question or to provide a response should say their name,
as in, “This is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by
the host, as in, “Go ahead, John.”

I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear
some of yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well
as the level of interest. With many of us working from home are there
specific applications or programs that you might want some assistance
with? Programs that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be
interest in similar workshops for NVDA users?

I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to
write to me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops.
Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you
surely have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to
provide any type of compensation for any assistance you may choose to
provide but the point of these workshops is to provide free assistance
to those who may be spending more time at home doing work or
completing other tasks. This can be a stressful time for many of us.
Many kind and patient people assisted me when I was first learning
about assistive technology and I just want to pay it forward and give
something back to the blindness community, particularly during this
time when the need for some tech help may be even greater

Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.



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Hello,

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

Al

You must have your messages threaded by conversations, I don’t, so I never hear the word expanded.

Hi,

If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.

Thanks,

Jessica

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

Hi,

If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.

Thanks,

Jessica

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

Hi,

Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is  spoken twice.

It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.

Definitely very annoying

Does anyone know of a fix?

Thanks,

Jesica

.

I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

Regards,

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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Hello,

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

Al

Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

Thanks,

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al