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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Richard Turner
I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups. To turn it back on do the same.
HTH,
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Any idea how to turn off that feature? Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.
Thanks,
John Doering
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
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On Behalf Of Richard Turner
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates. I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook. If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
John Doering
Any idea how to turn off that feature? Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.
Thanks,
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates. I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook. If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Jessica D
Hi, Yes, I find this feature helpful, so will probably leave it enabled, and wait for someone else to chime in.
Thanks,
Jessica
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates. I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook. If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Richard Turner
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
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I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Jessica D
Hi, Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is spoken twice. It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.
Definitely very annoying Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks,
Jesica .
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
I have noticed the same thing. Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
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Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox: Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
John Doering
I have noticed the same thing. Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO> Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox: Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
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annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Alan Robbins
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox: Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
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Re: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time
Jessica D
Hi,
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I would too! Thanks, Jessica
On Mar 18, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time
Michael Mote
Can you send me the meeting info? I would love to participate as well?
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This is a good idea.
On 3/18/20, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@gmail.com> wrote:
I am going to join in order to listen to it, possibly answer someone and
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ODP: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
I am going to join in order to listen to it, possibly answer someone and maybe ask something? I’d be interested in learning MS Access with jFW, but there are people with bigger needs… Od: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> W imieniu David Goldfield
The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at home. Some of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying home to stay safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or quarantine. Even before all of this began there have been many opportunities for online training using meeting platforms such as Zoom. Now that more of us are forced to stay in our homes the opportunities for remote training and assistance will likely increase. A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering topics from a Windows perspective. I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is enough interest in such a project. The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing as a stupid question. For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s technical support. In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in, “Go ahead, John.” I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar workshops for NVDA users? I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops. Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.
Topic: JAWS, Just Because Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.
Meeting ID: 356 585 7579
One tap mobile +19294362866,,3565857579# US (New York) +13126266799,,3565857579# US (Chicago)
Dial by your location
929 436 2866 US (New York) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 301 715 8592 US +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US Meeting ID: 356 585 7579 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC
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JAWS and Java applications
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Hello! I need to work with Jetbrains Rider, a software foe developing software. The program is written in JAVA, so I need to use the JAB. However from what I recall from previous years, the JAWS support for JAVA applications is not good. Has the situation improved or I will have to go back to NVDA?
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Re: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time
David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Larry, That's fabulous. Your presence will definitely enrich the experience. Many thanks.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 3/18/2020 7:14 AM, Larry Gassman
wrote:
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Re: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time
Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
David, I will be there. Larry
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 3:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time
The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at home. Some of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying home to stay safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or quarantine. Even before all of this began there have been many opportunities for online training using meeting platforms such as Zoom. Now that more of us are forced to stay in our homes the opportunities for remote training and assistance will likely increase. A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering topics from a Windows perspective. I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is enough interest in such a project. The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing as a stupid question. For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s technical support. In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in, “Go ahead, John.” I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar workshops for NVDA users? I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops. Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.
Topic: JAWS, Just Because Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.
Meeting ID: 356 585 7579
One tap mobile +19294362866,,3565857579# US (New York) +13126266799,,3565857579# US (Chicago)
Dial by your location
929 436 2866 US (New York) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 301 715 8592 US +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US Meeting ID: 356 585 7579 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC
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Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time
David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at
home. Some of us are now working from home. Some of us may be
staying home to stay safe. Others may be at home in order to
self-isolate or quarantine. Even before all of this began there have
been many opportunities for online training using meeting platforms
such as Zoom. Now that more of us are forced to stay in our homes
the opportunities for remote training and assistance will likely
increase.
A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering topics from a Windows perspective. I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is enough interest in such a project. The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing as a stupid question. For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s technical support. In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in, “Go ahead, John.” I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar workshops for NVDA users? I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops. Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.
Topic: JAWS, Just Because Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.
Meeting ID: 356 585 7579
One tap mobile +19294362866,,3565857579# US (New York) +13126266799,,3565857579# US (Chicago)
Dial by your location
929 436 2866 US (New York) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 301 715 8592 US +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US Meeting ID: 356 585 7579 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC
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How to make Jaws show links on a braille disply
Jay <jcoffin@...>
Hi.
How do you make Jaws show links on a braille display when reading content? For example, if you’re scrolling through a webpage and come across a link, how would you see it in braille? Is there a setting to turn on or something that will make it do this?
Thanks.
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Re: cannot remove Deck talk synth from jaws
Adrian Spratt
Jessica,
Rather than suggesting how to remove Dectalk, I wonder if it can be made to work for you. I use Dectalk Express, which may or may not require a tiny amount of configuring. Which Dectalk are you referring to?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 6:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: cannot remove Deck talk synth from jaws
Hi, I wanted to try Deck talk, but its not working with jaws.
As a result, I’d like to remove it, but can’t.
When I try, using the synthiciser and braille manager, I check the 3 boxes, but am not given the option to remove.
What can I do?
Thanks,
Jessica
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Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site
Tom Behler
Mike:
I believe I have done this, but will be sure the next time.
Actually, I often find that, on this particular web site, arrowing down to the next edit field works better than tabbing. Not sure why, though.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site
Hi Tom,
If you're tabbing from 1 open edit / forms field to the next, try closing each field after you enter the data, then arrow to the next edit field and open it and enter the data, close the edit arrow to the next open enter....
----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler To: jfw list Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:24 PM Subject: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site
Hello, everyone.
Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.
In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.
However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.
How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?
Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.
I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.
Thanks for any input.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site
Mike B
Hi Tom,
If you're tabbing from 1 open edit / forms field to
the next, try closing each field after you enter the data, then arrow to the
next edit field and open it and enter the data, close the edit arrow to the next
open enter....
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: jfw list
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:24 PM
Subject: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web
Site Hello, everyone.
Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.
In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.
However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.
How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?
Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.
I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.
Thanks for any input.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site
Tom Behler
Thanks, Tim.
This is very good information.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site
Hi Tom,
I have had good luck with the following approach. Use the JAWS key + F5 to bring up the list of boxes and buttons. Arrow down to the box you want and press enter. That should place you in the correct edit box, depending on how your forms mode is set in JAWS.
I admit this does not always work, but it does work for about 90% of web sites.
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.
In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.
However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.
How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?
Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.
I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.
Thanks for any input.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site
Tim Ford
Hi Tom,
I have had good luck with the following approach. Use the JAWS key + F5 to bring up the list of boxes and buttons. Arrow down to the box you want and press enter. That should place you in the correct edit box, depending on how your forms mode is set in JAWS.
I admit this does not always work, but it does work for about 90% of web sites.
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:25 PM To: jfw list Subject: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site
Hello, everyone.
Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.
In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.
However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.
How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?
Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.
I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.
Thanks for any input.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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