Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

Thanks,

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

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your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

Regards,

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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Hello,

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

Al

Hello,

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

Al

On Mar 18, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote:

Can you send me the meeting info? I would love to participate as well?
This is a good idea.

On 3/18/20, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@gmail.com> wrote:
I am going to join in order to listen to it, possibly answer someone and
maybe ask something? I’d be interested in learning MS Access with jFW, but
there are people with bigger needs…

Od: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> W imieniu David Goldfield
Wysłano: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:51 AM
Do: main@jfw.groups.io
Temat: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for
JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time



The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at home. Some
of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying home to stay
safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or quarantine. Even
before all of this began there have been many opportunities for online
training using meeting platforms such as Zoom. Now that more of us are
forced to stay in our homes the opportunities for remote training and
assistance will likely increase.

A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug
<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibugtoday.com%2F&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb082631755174c68119208d7cb282cd7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637201245717698466&sdata=hEfEFkOgnDSm42Zw9%2FuKSAtwRGl9uCIAVGkIyuRm%2Bs8%3D&reserved=0>
conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to
provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the
format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering
topics from a Windows perspective.

I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be
the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is
enough interest in such a project.

The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is
scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will
allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to
provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too
basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing
as a stupid question.

For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone
with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping
that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider
participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time
to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions
which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s
technical support.

In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a
similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to
ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This
is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in,
“Go ahead, John.”

I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of
yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level
of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific
applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs
that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar
workshops for NVDA users?

I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to
me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops.
Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely
have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type
of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point
of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be
spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be
a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me
when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay
it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly
during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater

Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.



Topic: JAWS, Just Because

Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.

https://zoom.us/j/3565857579
<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fj%2F3565857579&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb082631755174c68119208d7cb282cd7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637201245717708471&sdata=MZV0RU6mfUxXQxgeCI1imqKEWc0pGb9V3kABFj%2BA0ck%3D&reserved=0>




Meeting ID: 356 585 7579



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+1 301 715 8592 US

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+1 253 215 8782 US

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC
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I am going to join in order to listen to it, possibly answer someone and
maybe ask something? I’d be interested in learning MS Access with jFW, but
there are people with bigger needs…

Od: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> W imieniu David Goldfield
Wysłano: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:51 AM
Do: main@jfw.groups.io
Temat: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for
JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time



The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at home. Some
of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying home to stay
safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or quarantine. Even
before all of this began there have been many opportunities for online
training using meeting platforms such as Zoom. Now that more of us are
forced to stay in our homes the opportunities for remote training and
assistance will likely increase.

A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug
<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibugtoday.com%2F&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb082631755174c68119208d7cb282cd7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637201245717698466&sdata=hEfEFkOgnDSm42Zw9%2FuKSAtwRGl9uCIAVGkIyuRm%2Bs8%3D&reserved=0>
conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to
provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the
format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering
topics from a Windows perspective.

I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be
the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is
enough interest in such a project.

The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is
scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will
allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to
provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too
basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing
as a stupid question.

For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone
with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping
that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider
participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time
to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions
which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s
technical support.

In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a
similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to
ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This
is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in,
“Go ahead, John.”

I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of
yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level
of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific
applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs
that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar
workshops for NVDA users?

I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to
me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops.
Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely
have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type
of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point
of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be
spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be
a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me
when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay
it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly
during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater

Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.



Topic: JAWS, Just Because

Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.

https://zoom.us/j/3565857579
<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fj%2F3565857579&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb082631755174c68119208d7cb282cd7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637201245717708471&sdata=MZV0RU6mfUxXQxgeCI1imqKEWc0pGb9V3kABFj%2BA0ck%3D&reserved=0>




Meeting ID: 356 585 7579



One tap mobile

+19294362866,,3565857579# US (New York)

+13126266799,,3565857579# US (Chicago)



Dial by your location



929 436 2866 US (New York)

+1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)

+1 301 715 8592 US

+1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)

+1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

+1 253 215 8782 US

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC
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David,

I will be there.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 3:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time

 

The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at home. Some of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying home to stay safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or quarantine. Even before all of this began there have been many opportunities for online training using meeting platforms such as Zoom. Now that more of us are forced to stay in our homes the opportunities for remote training and assistance will likely increase.

A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering topics from a Windows perspective.

I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is enough interest in such a project.

The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing as a stupid question.

For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s technical support.

In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in, “Go ahead, John.”

I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar workshops for NVDA users?

I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops. Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater

Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.

 

Topic: JAWS, Just Because

Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.

https://zoom.us/j/3565857579

 

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

 

One tap mobile

+19294362866,,3565857579# US (New York)

+13126266799,,3565857579# US (Chicago)

 

Dial by your location

 

929 436 2866 US (New York)

        +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)

        +1 301 715 8592 US

        +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)

        +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

        +1 253 215 8782 US

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC

The Covid-19 pandemic has forced many of us to spend more time at home. Some of us are now working from home. Some of us may be staying home to stay safe. Others may be at home in order to self-isolate or quarantine. Even before all of this began there have been many opportunities for online training using meeting platforms such as Zoom. Now that more of us are forced to stay in our homes the opportunities for remote training and assistance will likely increase.

A couple of weeks ago I attended my first Ibug conference where participants are encouraged to ask questions and to provide support for one another with their iOS devices. I really liked the format of the conference but I wanted to see a similar opportunity covering topics from a Windows perspective.

I decided that I’d like to host such a conference and this will likely be the first in a series of free, online tech workshops, assuming there is enough interest in such a project.

The first of these workshops is titled, “JAWS, Just Because” and is scheduled for Friday, March 20 at 8:00 PM Eastern time. This conference will allow users of the JAWS screen reader to both ask questions as well as to provide answers to those who use the JAWS screen reader. No question is too basic or too esoteric and it should be stressed that there is no such thing as a stupid question.

For this conference I’m looking for two types of participants. First, anyone with a question regarding JAWS is, of course, welcome. Second, I’m hoping that those who are knowledgeable in the use of JAWS will also consider participating to share knowledge. Due to time constraints we won’t have time to provide lengthy support or to tandem into a user’s machine. Questions which require this type of intervention would best be addressed by Vispero’s technical support.

In order to keep the conference running smoothly I am going to adopt a similar policy which has been successfully used by iBug. Users who wish to ask a question or to provide a response should say their name, as in, “This is John.” At that point please wait to be acknowledged by the host, as in, “Go ahead, John.”

I have some other ideas for similar workshops but would like to hear some of yours so that I can determine the needs that you have as well as the level of interest. With many of us working from home are there specific applications or programs that you might want some assistance with? Programs that come to mind are Slack, Teams, etc. Would there be interest in similar workshops for NVDA users?

I would also like to invite other assistive technology trainers to write to me privately if you’re interested in assisting with any of these workshops. Many of you may have some ideas which I haven’t thought of and you surely have expertise with topics which I do not. I am unable to provide any type of compensation for any assistance you may choose to provide but the point of these workshops is to provide free assistance to those who may be spending more time at home doing work or completing other tasks. This can be a stressful time for many of us. Many kind and patient people assisted me when I was first learning about assistive technology and I just want to pay it forward and give something back to the blindness community, particularly during this time when the need for some tech help may be even greater

Here is the relevant information about the upcoming conference.

Topic: JAWS, Just Because

Join our Zoom Meeting via the following link.

https://zoom.us/j/3565857579

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

One tap mobile

+19294362866,,3565857579# US (New York)

+13126266799,,3565857579# US (Chicago)

Dial by your location

929 436 2866 US (New York)

        +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)

        +1 301 715 8592 US

        +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)

        +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

        +1 253 215 8782 US

Meeting ID: 356 585 7579

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/alWW1tLpC

Hi,

I wanted to try Deck talk, but its not working with jaws.

As a result, I’d like to remove it, but can’t.

When I try, using the synthiciser and braille manager, I check the 3 boxes, but am not given the option to remove.

What can I do?

Thanks,

Jessica

Hello, everyone.

Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.

In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.

However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.

How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?

Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.

I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.

Thanks for any input.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

Hi Tom,

I have had good luck with the following approach.  Use the JAWS key + F5 to bring up the list of boxes and buttons.  Arrow down to the box you want and press enter. That should place you in the correct edit box, depending on how your forms mode is set in JAWS. 

I admit this does not always work, but it does work for about 90% of web sites.

Tim Ford

Hello, everyone.

Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.

In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.

However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.

How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?

Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.

I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.

Thanks for any input.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

Hello, everyone.

Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.

In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.

However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.

How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?

Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.

I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.

Thanks for any input.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan