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moderated Re: cannot remove Deck talk synth from jaws

Adrian Spratt
 

Jessica,

 

Rather than suggesting how to remove Dectalk, I wonder if it can be made to work for you. I use Dectalk Express, which may or may not require a tiny amount of configuring. Which Dectalk are you referring to?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: cannot remove Deck talk synth from jaws

 

Hi,

I wanted to try Deck talk, but its not working with jaws.

 

As a result, I’d like to remove it, but can’t.

 

When I try, using the synthiciser and braille manager, I check the 3 boxes, but am not given the option to remove.

 

What can I do?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

Tom Behler
 

Mike:

 

I believe I have done this, but will be sure the next time.

 

Actually, I often find that, on this particular web site, arrowing down to the next edit field works better than tabbing.  Not sure why, though.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

 

Hi Tom,

 

If you're tabbing from 1 open edit / forms field to the next, try closing each field after you enter the data, then arrow to the next edit field and open it and enter the data, close the edit arrow to the next open enter....


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:24 PM

Subject: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.

 

In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.

 

However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.

 

How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?

 

Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.

 

I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

moderated Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

Mike B
 

Hi Tom,
 
If you're tabbing from 1 open edit / forms field to the next, try closing each field after you enter the data, then arrow to the next edit field and open it and enter the data, close the edit arrow to the next open enter....

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:24 PM
Subject: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

Hello, everyone.

 

Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.

 

In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.

 

However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.

 

How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?

 

Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.

 

I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

moderated Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Tim.

 

This is very good information.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

 

Hi Tom,

 

I have had good luck with the following approach.  Use the JAWS key + F5 to bring up the list of boxes and buttons.  Arrow down to the box you want and press enter. That should place you in the correct edit box, depending on how your forms mode is set in JAWS. 

 

I admit this does not always work, but it does work for about 90% of web sites.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:25 PM
To: jfw list
Subject: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.

 

In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.

 

However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.

 

How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?

 

Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.

 

I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

moderated Re: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

Tim Ford
 

Hi Tom,

 

I have had good luck with the following approach.  Use the JAWS key + F5 to bring up the list of boxes and buttons.  Arrow down to the box you want and press enter. That should place you in the correct edit box, depending on how your forms mode is set in JAWS. 

 

I admit this does not always work, but it does work for about 90% of web sites.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:25 PM
To: jfw list
Subject: Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.

 

In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.

 

However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.

 

How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?

 

Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.

 

I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

moderated Problem Entering Text Into A Particular Web Site

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

Due to some hham radio-related volunteer work I’m doing, I need to send brief alert text messages via a specific web site that is often used for public-service and emergency communication purposes.

 

In order to send a message, I must complete fields in a web form, which is actually fairly accessible.

 

However, in part of the form, Jaws tells me that I’m in the message edit box, while, in reality, my PC cursor gets stuck in the subject field which is previous to the message edit box on the form.

 

How can I be sure that the Jaws and PC cursor are in the same place when completing this form?

 

Normally, I’d post the web site and ask for everyone’s input, but the site is somewhat secure, and used for public-service/emergency communications, so I need to be careful.

 

I’ll try to clarify the issue further if needed.

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

moderated cannot remove Deck talk synth from jaws

Jessica D
 

Hi,

I wanted to try Deck talk, but its not working with jaws.

 

As a result, I’d like to remove it, but can’t.

 

When I try, using the synthiciser and braille manager, I check the 3 boxes, but am not given the option to remove.

 

What can I do?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: jitsi?

Shan Noyes
 

X Get them to use Zoom it’s free for under 50 people and it works great with jaws

moderated Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

Chris Hill
 

Working fine here.  I'll bet it is going to depend on the video card and drivers.  I'm running an ati Radeon rx 580



On 3/17/2020 11:34, Alan Robbins wrote:

Hope you got an answer to your issue. I never bothered with the shade thing, I simply keep my monitor off unless a colleague, etc. needs to look at something.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 2:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

Hi All

 

Has anyone else found that the screen shade feature doesn’t work if you are using a desktop PC with an external monitor? I activate the command and it reports that it’s on but I can see that it isn’t. I’ve changed Monitors and it makes no difference. I’m using the latest builds of both JAWS and windows 10.

 

Debbie

moderated JAWS2020 March Update Build, 2003.13, Download link + What's New

Mike B
 

32 & 64 Bit:
 
 
What's new:
Enhancements in JAWS 2020.2003.13 (March 2020)
The following is a list of improvements made between the February 2020 release and the March 2020 update.
 
You must be logged on as an administrator to install this software.
list of 21 items
• In Office 365 and 2019, JAWS and Fusion now properly announce column and row titles for tables in Word documents when navigating using JAWS table reading
keystrokes (ALT+CTRL+ARROW keys). For users who prefer to turn off reading of titles while navigating tables for the current document or for all documents,
these options can be configured through JAWS Quick Settings (INSERT+V) by searching for "table" or "title."
• If the view in Outlook 365 or 2019 is set to show messages by date, JAWS and Fusion will now indicate using both speech and Braille the date change when
you move from one day to the next in messages lists. For example, as you navigate a list of messages covering multiple days, when you move to the first
message in the new date group, you will hear announcements such as "today," "yesterday," "last week," or "two weeks ago."
• In Microsoft Teams, addressed an issue where JAWS was not always reading as expected when navigating between messages in a conversation thread.
• Resolved an issue where Microsoft Teams would stop responding for several seconds when CTRL+BACKSPACE was pressed to delete a word in a chat edit field.
• Added a new Language Processing group, located under Text Processing in Settings Center. This group now contains the options for configuring language
detection which allows JAWS and Fusion to automatically switch to the appropriate synthesizer language when encountering text in documents and web pages
in different languages.
• In response to customer feedback, the keystroke to display the text of the current control in the JAWS Virtual Viewer so it can be selected and copied
has been changed to INSERT+SHIFT+V. In Microsoft Teams, this command will also virtualize the currently selected item in a list of messages in a conversation.
• The PC Cursor is now active by default in the Weather, News, and Windows Store applications. Since this cursor now works much better in these apps, it
is no longer necessary to use the Touch Cursor.
• JAWS now indicates when text on a web page is marked as deleted or inserted.
• Addressed issues with JAWS and Fusion not always reporting the correct information when navigating tables in Chrome and Edge Chromium.
• When using the ARROW keys or Navigation Quick Keys to move between controls on web pages like check boxes, resolved an issue where the visual highlight
was not properly tracking the location of the Virtual Cursor.
• Addressed an issue where pressing Navigation Quick Key G to move to graphics on web pages was not working as expected in both the Chrome and Edge Chromium
browsers.
• Addressed a customer reported issue with JAWS not identifying edit fields on certain websites in Chrome.
• If Contracted Braille input is enabled and you select all text in a document using CTRL+A, resolved an issue where using the Braille command LEFT SHIFT+D
(DOTS 1-4-5) was not deleting the selected text as expected.
• Removed extra blank lines that were appearing in the JAWS Virtual Viewer when using WINDOWS Key+SEMICOLON to display comments in Word documents.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where attempting to use voice aliases to indicate attributes such as bolded text were not working when using Vocalizer
Expressive.
• Resolved an issue where the emoji for a red heart was being incorrectly spoken as a black heart.
• When using the Wikipedia Research It lookup source, only the link to the article is now displayed. Due to changes with the Wikipedia website, JAWS is
no longer able to retrieve the synopsis.
• You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+B in either desktop or laptop keyboard layout to obtain battery status and charging information as well as network connection
status. You can also still use CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+B in the laptop keyboard layout to read this info.
• Added a new dictionary entry for "endnote" that is specific to the Eloquence synthesizer to improve this announcement for Fusion users. Other synthesizers
like SAPI5 and Vocalizer Expressive already speak this correctly.
• Resolved a long-standing issue where configuring individual punctuation settings for a voice profile using the Voice Adjustment dialog box was not working
properly. For instance, if you set the punctuation level to None for the PC Cursor voice, but leave it set to Most for the JAWS Cursor, Keyboard, and Tutor
and Message voices, JAWS should now use the correct punctuation setting depending on the active voice.
• Updated the JAWS Hot Key Help (INSERT+H) for Skype to remove references to the Back button that existed in prior Skype versions and is now no longer
available.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!

moderated Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

Alan Robbins
 

Hope you got an answer to your issue. I never bothered with the shade thing, I simply keep my monitor off unless a colleague, etc. needs to look at something.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 2:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

Hi All

 

Has anyone else found that the screen shade feature doesn’t work if you are using a desktop PC with an external monitor? I activate the command and it reports that it’s on but I can see that it isn’t. I’ve changed Monitors and it makes no difference. I’m using the latest builds of both JAWS and windows 10.

 

Debbie

moderated jitsi?

Dean Martineau
 

Has anybody tested the conferencing client Jitsi?  An organization I’m associated with is considering using it, so I’m curious.

 

moderated March update avaiable

Jessica D
 

Happy St. patrick’s Day everyone,

 

I’m writing to inform you that the March update for jaws is now available.

 

Also, just a reminder that the webinar regarding jaws and oneDrive is this tursday, March 19, at 12pm Easstern, 11am central.

 

I’ll be attending.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

Adrian Spratt
 

It exists on some websites. It isn’t a universal option. The only way to find out on any given website is to go out of forms mode and arrow down, typically right below the password field.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

That is because it does not exist.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

Where do you go to find that particular setting? I’ve never come across that in JAWS before.

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2020 6:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

Most likely you’ve got it set to read out passwords.  Uncheck that box. 

moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

That is because it does not exist.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

Where do you go to find that particular setting? I’ve never come across that in JAWS before.

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2020 6:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

Most likely you’ve got it set to read out passwords.  Uncheck that box. 

moderated Re: Row Headers

Pramit
 

Hi All,

Pressing the below command takes you directly to the View Pane.
ALT + V + G
and then scroll down to select Group by options like Name, Type, Size 

This is the easiest option that I always use.

Hope this helps

Pramit

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 7:39 AM Norma A. Boge <naboge@...> wrote:
Hi Elise, thanks for posting your question. That setting was driving me batty and I just hadn't taken the time to post a message here. Best, Norma


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:25 PM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Row Headers

Hello, all.
For some reason, under "this pc" these annoying row headers have shown up. It is like my downloads, etc. are listed by "earlier this week", "yesterday", etc. I need to get rid of these headers. Can someone help me out? Thanks.
Windows 10, JAWS 2018
Elise Berkley







moderated Re: Row Headers

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Elise, thanks for posting your question. That setting was driving me batty and I just hadn't taken the time to post a message here. Best, Norma

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:25 PM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Row Headers

Hello, all.
For some reason, under "this pc" these annoying row headers have shown up. It is like my downloads, etc. are listed by "earlier this week", "yesterday", etc. I need to get rid of these headers. Can someone help me out? Thanks.
Windows 10, JAWS 2018
Elise Berkley

moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

Debbie April Yuille
 

Where do you go to find that particular setting? I’ve never come across that in JAWS before.

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2020 6:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

Most likely you’ve got it set to read out passwords.  Uncheck that box. 

moderated Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

Debbie April Yuille
 

OK, thanks.

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2020 12:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

Screen shade also works on my desktop computer.
It also has windows 10 with jaws 2020.
It was custom-made, so no specific brand to specify.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Ok thanks. I need to hear from someone who is using a desktop PC not a laptop. Thanks anyway.

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 11:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

Yes both the screen on my laptop and my external monitor go black.

 

I have a Lenovo laptop which a plug into a docking station.

I am I have windows 10 with jaws 2020.

 

I would suggest pressing the windows key plus the letter P.
This should provide the interface to determine how your external monitor is viewed by your Windows operating system.
Or at least that just a combination I use and Lenovo.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Are you able to actually see the screen turn black? Also what computer are you using?

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

I just tested and everything works as expected.

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:28 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Hi All

 

Has anyone else found that the screen shade feature doesn’t work if you are using a desktop PC with an external monitor? I activate the command and it reports that it’s on but I can see that it isn’t. I’ve changed Monitors and it makes no difference. I’m using the latest builds of both JAWS and windows 10.

 

Debbie

moderated Re: Row Headers

Chris
 

This is because this particular folder is grouped by date as default

 

To change this behaviour deselect all files in the folder , then do a right click and from the menu set the group by sub menu to none, then all should be right with the world once again, have a nice day :D

 

From: Elise Berkley
Sent: 16 March 2020 21:24
To: jfw
Subject: Row Headers

 

Hello, all.

For some reason, under "this pc" these annoying row headers have shown

up. It is like my downloads, etc. are listed by "earlier this week",

"yesterday", etc. I need to get rid of these headers. Can someone help

me out? Thanks.

Windows 10, JAWS 2018

Elise Berkley