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moderated Re: Question regarding searching:

Abraham Sweiss
 

I wonder if the issue is specific to the browser and search engine being used. The reason I stayed this is because I have never run into this issue, however I do not use ie 11.

Can a test be done using either Google chrome or Firefox and then going to www.google.com

And then see if the issue persists.

If you do not have fire fox or Google Chrome installed, just do a search for the downlights site and then install.

Thanks,abraham 

On Mar 11,e 2020, at 4:59 AM, Angel <angel238@...> wrote:

I employ IE 11, I think, as my browser.  When I search for something on the internet:  Jaws reads a continuous list of choices, as I am writing my search term

  Which is most annoying.  I should like Jaws to remain silent.  As I am typing the search term.  That I might not be distracted.  While writing my search terms.  How can I cause Jaws not to speak.  While attempting to write search terms?

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moderated Re: Question regarding searching:

 

If you're using IE you really do need to dump it, for starters.

Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer | Daniel Miessler        (Dec 2019)

The perils of using Internet Explorer as your default browser ...            (March 2019 – straight from the proverbial horse’s mouth)

Microsoft cybersecurity expert: Please, stop using Internet ...  (Feb 2019)

Microsoft security chief: IE is not a browser, so stop using ...     (Feb 2019)

Microsoft wants you to stop using Internet Explorer                    (Feb 2019)

12 reasons not to use Internet Explorer, ever | Computerworld  (June 2011 – Even more valid now)

And if you web search on “Why you should not use Internet Explorer” the list of returned results is long, and virtually unanimous in the expert (and non-expert) opinion that you should not.

Regardless of the browser you're using, if you want relative silence when trying to think through and compose your list of search criteria I'd suggest you do that step in Notepad, particularly for complex searches with many terms (often including the forced inclusion, +, and exclusion, -, operators).   After you've got it "perfected," or think you do, select all, copy, then paste into the search engine.  It also makes it easier to modify when you determine that what you thought was perfected is, in actuality, in need of more refinement.

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moderated Re: Question regarding searching:

Mario
 

first let us know exactly which browser you are using. if you're using JAWS, NVDA or probably what ever screen reader, press insert+t to hear the program you're using. telling us "I think" most likely won't elicit an appropriate response if someone knows the answer.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Angel [mailto:angel238@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 4:59 AM
Subject: Question regarding searching:
I employ IE 11, I think, as my browser.  When I search for something on
the internet:  Jaws reads a continuous list of choices, as I am writing
my search term

  Which is most annoying.  I should like Jaws to remain silent.  As I
am typing the search term.  That I might not be distracted.  While
writing my search terms.  How can I cause Jaws not to speak.  While
attempting to write search terms?

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Windows 10


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moderated Re: re arranging columns in thunderbird

 

The only way I've ever known to rearrange column order in Thunderbird is via drag and drop for the columns you've chosen to display.  This still works with JAWS simulated drag and drop, or at least it did the last time I had to do it that way.

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moderated re arranging columns in thunderbird

Leo
 

Hi everyone,

I want to have jaws telling me the correspondent  info, ((the sender),  before everything else.

Time back, I did it using  the customize list view, but now I find it rather confusing,because I can't figure  out

the location of the columns in the dialogue box that pops up when I  go through all the options of customize list view.

In previous versions of jaws, the columns were listed, so all I had to do was to select a column and tab to find the options to move up or move down, according to what I wanted.

can this be done now?

I'm using jaws 2020 and latest thundderbird.

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Best,
   Leo

moderated Re: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.

Mike B
 


Marty,
 
I guess the way to start is by removing modified settings files from the ENU folder 1 at a time until you you find the 1 causing the problem.  Then open that file to see if you can pinpoint the particular setting within the file.  Don't delete the files you take out of the ENU folder just cut them out and save them somewhere you can access them.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.

Mike,  I opened up an email that I had sent out that had a date in a line that JAWS was not reading.  I then pressed the JAWS key and Space bar and Z.  A second later, JAWS was reading the missing line of text.  Now, how do I figure out which custom setting is causing the problem? Weird!
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.
 
Here's another thought / guess.  Did you make any changes to the Jaws default dictionary in Jaws 18 that might cause this problem?  If you did something to the JFD in Jaws18, that would have carried over to Jaws2019 if you imported your settings from J18 to J2019.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.
 
I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and office 2007 and Windows Live Mail.  Each time that I type a date like March 22 in a word document or an email, JAWS will not read anything in that line of text where the date is.  It doesn't say anything at all.  This has been happening for a while, it even happened with JAWS 18.  Has anyone else experienced this?

moderated Question regarding searching:

Angel
 

I employ IE 11, I think, as my browser.  When I search for something on the internet:  Jaws reads a continuous list of choices, as I am writing my search term

  Which is most annoying.  I should like Jaws to remain silent.  As I am typing the search term.  That I might not be distracted.  While writing my search terms.  How can I cause Jaws not to speak.  While attempting to write search terms?

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moderated Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

Delaunay Christophe
 

Hi George,

 

Here is what happens in the Outlook 365 app when I try to apply your advice:

 

  1. I opened a new message to perform the test by pressing <ctrl+n>.
  2. In the “To:” field of this message, I typed the first letters of an address I want to remove. I then heard a small jingle and the suggestion list was popped up.
  3. Since the address I wanted to delete was not the first one suggested, I down arrowad to it and typed <enter>.
  4. For sure, this address has been added to the “To:” field. Therefore, I typed the left arrow until Jaws said me it has been selected.
  5. At this time, when I pressed the <delete> key, this address was removed from my “To:” field.
  6. After also removing the remaining semicolon and extra space character from the “To:” field, I retyped the first letters I typed at step (2).
  7. I then arrowed down and noticed that although the address was removed from the “To:” field at step (5), it still remains in the suggested list.

I’d also like to thank the people who suggested me to remove these unwanted addresses from some address book but it seems that these addresses do not belong to any of my address books.

 

Many thanks. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

When you get the email you want to remove by typing it in the field you need to hit enter to put it in the field.

 

Then you need to left arrow to it is selected or red to you and then hit deleate.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi Adrian, Thom and all,

 

Thanks to all for your fast responses. So, since it works for yyou, I tried with different screen readers, in case it could be a problem with my jaws configuration.

 

Neither NVDA, nor the windows 10 narrator could solve my problem. Here is an illustration of what I am trying to do:

 

  1. I create a new mail by pressing <ctrl+n>.
  2. In the “To:” field, I begin typing the first letters of the address I want to remove.
  3. I press the down or up arrow keys one or more times until the screen reader speaks me the address I want. For Jaws or NVDA, which have braille support, I also can read the suggestion on my braille display.
  4. If I press the <delete> key, the suggested address disappears from my braille display and only the letters I typed remain in the “To:” field. However, when I arrow up and down to see more suggested addresses, the one I hoped to remove by pressing <delete> while the screen reader was saying it still appears.

So, is there an outlook configuration setting to change for this to work for me like it does for you please?

 

Many thanks. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

** CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. **

 

In Outlook 2016, the method that works for me is to set up a new message, then type the first letter of the email address I want to delete. I arrow down through the resulting list and, when I have focus on the address, I press the delete key.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

It doesn’t seem to work in the mail app either, as I’m wanting to get rid of some contacts I never use any more. Any help would be appreciated.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi all,

 

With Jaws 2020, I’d like to know whether there is a way to remove one or more items from the address autocompletion list of Microsoft Outlook 365.

 

With older Outlook versions like 2010, and older versions of Jaws, I could select one no more wanted address and type the <delete> key instead of the <tab> key and it was removed from the autocompletion list. But now, this does not seem to work with the Outlook 2016 app which was installed by my subscription to Office 365, and Jaws version 2020.2001.70.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

moderated Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

Delaunay Christophe
 

Hi Sieghard,

 

Many thanks for this well documented response. I also read this article while googling to work around my problem and this is the reason why I finally decided to post here.

 

Since Jaws or any other screen reader I could try do not present this X in regard to each suggested address, I’ll do without it but I’d really like FS to add an access to this X as a new feature.

 

Reason: When you type the first letters of an address, you can only arrow up and down through 5 suggestions. You then must type further letters of the wanted address until the list of suggestions becomes less or equal to 5. This becomes a real problem while the list of suggested addresses increases.

 

Of course, I could erase the whole list at once in the outlook preferences as some of you explained but I don’t want to do it right now since in this list, there are addresses I often use and don’t want to search for them again. I also don’t want to create a personal address book on this PC for security reasons.

 

Many thanks. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

I played around with this a bit as well (I use Office 365) and it may in fact not be possible. I did also Google this and found the below article where it is explained that there are 2 groups of auto suggestions, “Recent people” and “Other”. It appears only 2 entries appear in the recent people group and then more in the Other group, Jaws does also announce this, and it further says in the article that you can only delete entries from the recents list, not the other list. Sighted people apparently have to hover over the suggestion with the mouse and then an X appears and they can click this to remove the entry. If a command for this exists in Jaws I don’t know it. Anyways, here is the article:

 

Manage suggested recipients in the To, Cc, and Bcc boxes with Auto-Complete

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Try pressing control and the number 3 to go to email contacts, arrow down or begin typing the contact to be deleted.  When you get to it, just hit the delete key, then control and the number 1 to return to your In folder.

 

Don

 

 

From: Sharon Ballantyne

Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:36 AM

Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Using JAWS 2020, Windows 10, Outlook Office 365, the strategies suggested using the to field, first letter entry, navigation to address to be deleted and pressing delete key does not work for me either.Any other ideas? It would be really helpful to be able to clean up address book.

Many thanks

Sharon B

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Huh, I am using Outlook 2010, so I guess they dropped that keystroke option.

 

Tim Ford

               

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

She said that did not work

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:39
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

There is a shorter way to delete.  As you type and you hear an address you do not want, just press delete at that point, no need to hit tab or anything else. 

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

When you get the email you want to remove by typing it in the field you need to hit enter to put it in the field.

 

Then you need to left arrow to it is selected or red to you and then hit deleate.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi Adrian, Thom and all,

 

Thanks to all for your fast responses. So, since it works for yyou, I tried with different screen readers, in case it could be a problem with my jaws configuration.

 

Neither NVDA, nor the windows 10 narrator could solve my problem. Here is an illustration of what I am trying to do:

 

  1. I create a new mail by pressing <ctrl+n>.
  2. In the “To:” field, I begin typing the first letters of the address I want to remove.
  3. I press the down or up arrow keys one or more times until the screen reader speaks me the address I want. For Jaws or NVDA, which have braille support, I also can read the suggestion on my braille display.
  4. If I press the <delete> key, the suggested address disappears from my braille display and only the letters I typed remain in the “To:” field. However, when I arrow up and down to see more suggested addresses, the one I hoped to remove by pressing <delete> while the screen reader was saying it still appears.

So, is there an outlook configuration setting to change for this to work for me like it does for you please?

 

Many thanks. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

** CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. **

 

In Outlook 2016, the method that works for me is to set up a new message, then type the first letter of the email address I want to delete. I arrow down through the resulting list and, when I have focus on the address, I press the delete key.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

It doesn’t seem to work in the mail app either, as I’m wanting to get rid of some contacts I never use any more. Any help would be appreciated.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi all,

 

With Jaws 2020, I’d like to know whether there is a way to remove one or more items from the address autocompletion list of Microsoft Outlook 365.

 

With older Outlook versions like 2010, and older versions of Jaws, I could select one no more wanted address and type the <delete> key instead of the <tab> key and it was removed from the autocompletion list. But now, this does not seem to work with the Outlook 2016 app which was installed by my subscription to Office 365, and Jaws version 2020.2001.70.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

moderated Re: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.

Mike B
 


Try holding down the, Insert key, and tapping the, Z key, twice quickly.  You want to hear, the Jaws cursor will be turned on for all applications  If you hear that the Jaws cursor will be turned off for all applications, do this keystroke again until it's reported turned on for all applications.  Let the list know what happens. It might be tricky, but I think we're closing in on the bugger!  LOL 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.

Mike,  I opened up an email that I had sent out that had a date in a line that JAWS was not reading.  I then pressed the JAWS key and Space bar and Z.  A second later, JAWS was reading the missing line of text.  Now, how do I figure out which custom setting is causing the problem? Weird!
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.
 
Here's another thought / guess.  Did you make any changes to the Jaws default dictionary in Jaws 18 that might cause this problem?  If you did something to the JFD in Jaws18, that would have carried over to Jaws2019 if you imported your settings from J18 to J2019.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.
 
I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and office 2007 and Windows Live Mail.  Each time that I type a date like March 22 in a word document or an email, JAWS will not read anything in that line of text where the date is.  It doesn't say anything at all.  This has been happening for a while, it even happened with JAWS 18.  Has anyone else experienced this?

moderated Re: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.

Marty Hutchings
 

Mike,  I opened up an email that I had sent out that had a date in a line that JAWS was not reading.  I then pressed the JAWS key and Space bar and Z.  A second later, JAWS was reading the missing line of text.  Now, how do I figure out which custom setting is causing the problem? Weird!
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.
 
Here's another thought / guess.  Did you make any changes to the Jaws default dictionary in Jaws 18 that might cause this problem?  If you did something to the JFD in Jaws18, that would have carried over to Jaws2019 if you imported your settings from J18 to J2019.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.
 
I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and office 2007 and Windows Live Mail.  Each time that I type a date like March 22 in a word document or an email, JAWS will not read anything in that line of text where the date is.  It doesn't say anything at all.  This has been happening for a while, it even happened with JAWS 18.  Has anyone else experienced this?

moderated Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

I don’t think this is what the original poster wants to accomplish. In Outlook you also get a lot of auto complete suggestions for addresses which are not even in your Contacts or the People app if that is what you use.

Unless you turn auto complete off in File > Options > Mail under the Sent category of choices, you can manually type somebody’s email address and 2 years later if you start typing said address it will still pop up as an auto complete suggestion. I actually really like this, but I could see how there are emails which you really may no longer need or want to show up, maybe past girl-friends or boy-friend addresses for example 🤣

You can of course easily clear the entire list in File > Options > Mail just next to where you turn this feature on or off, but that may also not be what you want.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pramit
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi Sharon,

 

To clean up your address book you need to open the "People App" on your system and then delete the contacts from there.

Once deleted they'll not appear in autocomplete or else where.

 

Hope this helps!

Pramit

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:03 PM Sharon Ballantyne <revsharon@...> wrote:

Using JAWS 2020, Windows 10, Outlook Office 365, the strategies suggested using the to field, first letter entry, navigation to address to be deleted and pressing delete key does not work for me either.Any other ideas? It would be really helpful to be able to clean up address book.

Many thanks

Sharon B

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Huh, I am using Outlook 2010, so I guess they dropped that keystroke option.

 

Tim Ford

               

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

She said that did not work

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:39
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

There is a shorter way to delete.  As you type and you hear an address you do not want, just press delete at that point, no need to hit tab or anything else. 

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

When you get the email you want to remove by typing it in the field you need to hit enter to put it in the field.

 

Then you need to left arrow to it is selected or red to you and then hit deleate.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi Adrian, Thom and all,

 

Thanks to all for your fast responses. So, since it works for yyou, I tried with different screen readers, in case it could be a problem with my jaws configuration.

 

Neither NVDA, nor the windows 10 narrator could solve my problem. Here is an illustration of what I am trying to do:

 

  1. I create a new mail by pressing <ctrl+n>.
  2. In the “To:” field, I begin typing the first letters of the address I want to remove.
  3. I press the down or up arrow keys one or more times until the screen reader speaks me the address I want. For Jaws or NVDA, which have braille support, I also can read the suggestion on my braille display.
  4. If I press the <delete> key, the suggested address disappears from my braille display and only the letters I typed remain in the “To:” field. However, when I arrow up and down to see more suggested addresses, the one I hoped to remove by pressing <delete> while the screen reader was saying it still appears.

So, is there an outlook configuration setting to change for this to work for me like it does for you please?

 

Many thanks. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

** CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. **

 

In Outlook 2016, the method that works for me is to set up a new message, then type the first letter of the email address I want to delete. I arrow down through the resulting list and, when I have focus on the address, I press the delete key.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

It doesn’t seem to work in the mail app either, as I’m wanting to get rid of some contacts I never use any more. Any help would be appreciated.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi all,

 

With Jaws 2020, I’d like to know whether there is a way to remove one or more items from the address autocompletion list of Microsoft Outlook 365.

 

With older Outlook versions like 2010, and older versions of Jaws, I could select one no more wanted address and type the <delete> key instead of the <tab> key and it was removed from the autocompletion list. But now, this does not seem to work with the Outlook 2016 app which was installed by my subscription to Office 365, and Jaws version 2020.2001.70.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

moderated Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

I played around with this a bit as well (I use Office 365) and it may in fact not be possible. I did also Google this and found the below article where it is explained that there are 2 groups of auto suggestions, “Recent people” and “Other”. It appears only 2 entries appear in the recent people group and then more in the Other group, Jaws does also announce this, and it further says in the article that you can only delete entries from the recents list, not the other list. Sighted people apparently have to hover over the suggestion with the mouse and then an X appears and they can click this to remove the entry. If a command for this exists in Jaws I don’t know it. Anyways, here is the article:

 

Manage suggested recipients in the To, Cc, and Bcc boxes with Auto-Complete

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Try pressing control and the number 3 to go to email contacts, arrow down or begin typing the contact to be deleted.  When you get to it, just hit the delete key, then control and the number 1 to return to your In folder.

 

Don

 

 

From: Sharon Ballantyne

Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:36 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Using JAWS 2020, Windows 10, Outlook Office 365, the strategies suggested using the to field, first letter entry, navigation to address to be deleted and pressing delete key does not work for me either.Any other ideas? It would be really helpful to be able to clean up address book.

Many thanks

Sharon B

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Huh, I am using Outlook 2010, so I guess they dropped that keystroke option.

 

Tim Ford

               

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

She said that did not work

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:39
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

There is a shorter way to delete.  As you type and you hear an address you do not want, just press delete at that point, no need to hit tab or anything else. 

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

When you get the email you want to remove by typing it in the field you need to hit enter to put it in the field.

 

Then you need to left arrow to it is selected or red to you and then hit deleate.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi Adrian, Thom and all,

 

Thanks to all for your fast responses. So, since it works for yyou, I tried with different screen readers, in case it could be a problem with my jaws configuration.

 

Neither NVDA, nor the windows 10 narrator could solve my problem. Here is an illustration of what I am trying to do:

 

  1. I create a new mail by pressing <ctrl+n>.
  2. In the “To:” field, I begin typing the first letters of the address I want to remove.
  3. I press the down or up arrow keys one or more times until the screen reader speaks me the address I want. For Jaws or NVDA, which have braille support, I also can read the suggestion on my braille display.
  4. If I press the <delete> key, the suggested address disappears from my braille display and only the letters I typed remain in the “To:” field. However, when I arrow up and down to see more suggested addresses, the one I hoped to remove by pressing <delete> while the screen reader was saying it still appears.

So, is there an outlook configuration setting to change for this to work for me like it does for you please?

 

Many thanks. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

** CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. **

 

In Outlook 2016, the method that works for me is to set up a new message, then type the first letter of the email address I want to delete. I arrow down through the resulting list and, when I have focus on the address, I press the delete key.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

It doesn’t seem to work in the mail app either, as I’m wanting to get rid of some contacts I never use any more. Any help would be appreciated.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi all,

 

With Jaws 2020, I’d like to know whether there is a way to remove one or more items from the address autocompletion list of Microsoft Outlook 365.

 

With older Outlook versions like 2010, and older versions of Jaws, I could select one no more wanted address and type the <delete> key instead of the <tab> key and it was removed from the autocompletion list. But now, this does not seem to work with the Outlook 2016 app which was installed by my subscription to Office 365, and Jaws version 2020.2001.70.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

moderated Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

Pramit
 

Hi Sharon,

To clean up your address book you need to open the "People App" on your system and then delete the contacts from there.
Once deleted they'll not appear in autocomplete or else where.

Hope this helps!
Pramit




On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:03 PM Sharon Ballantyne <revsharon@...> wrote:

Using JAWS 2020, Windows 10, Outlook Office 365, the strategies suggested using the to field, first letter entry, navigation to address to be deleted and pressing delete key does not work for me either.Any other ideas? It would be really helpful to be able to clean up address book.

Many thanks

Sharon B

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Huh, I am using Outlook 2010, so I guess they dropped that keystroke option.

 

Tim Ford

               

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

She said that did not work

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:39
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

There is a shorter way to delete.  As you type and you hear an address you do not want, just press delete at that point, no need to hit tab or anything else. 

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

When you get the email you want to remove by typing it in the field you need to hit enter to put it in the field.

 

Then you need to left arrow to it is selected or red to you and then hit deleate.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi Adrian, Thom and all,

 

Thanks to all for your fast responses. So, since it works for yyou, I tried with different screen readers, in case it could be a problem with my jaws configuration.

 

Neither NVDA, nor the windows 10 narrator could solve my problem. Here is an illustration of what I am trying to do:

 

  1. I create a new mail by pressing <ctrl+n>.
  2. In the “To:” field, I begin typing the first letters of the address I want to remove.
  3. I press the down or up arrow keys one or more times until the screen reader speaks me the address I want. For Jaws or NVDA, which have braille support, I also can read the suggestion on my braille display.
  4. If I press the <delete> key, the suggested address disappears from my braille display and only the letters I typed remain in the “To:” field. However, when I arrow up and down to see more suggested addresses, the one I hoped to remove by pressing <delete> while the screen reader was saying it still appears.

So, is there an outlook configuration setting to change for this to work for me like it does for you please?

 

Many thanks. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

** CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. **

 

In Outlook 2016, the method that works for me is to set up a new message, then type the first letter of the email address I want to delete. I arrow down through the resulting list and, when I have focus on the address, I press the delete key.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

It doesn’t seem to work in the mail app either, as I’m wanting to get rid of some contacts I never use any more. Any help would be appreciated.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016: Is it possible to remove items from the addresses autocompletion list?

 

Hi all,

 

With Jaws 2020, I’d like to know whether there is a way to remove one or more items from the address autocompletion list of Microsoft Outlook 365.

 

With older Outlook versions like 2010, and older versions of Jaws, I could select one no more wanted address and type the <delete> key instead of the <tab> key and it was removed from the autocompletion list. But now, this does not seem to work with the Outlook 2016 app which was installed by my subscription to Office 365, and Jaws version 2020.2001.70.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

moderated Re: Jaws Not Reporting Blank for Empty Cells in Excel

 

Does it not read out the coordinates, e.g. if you open a blank worksheet where you are on cell A1 when it opens and  you arrow down once, does Jaws not say A2?

There is now a setting in quick settings in excel called “Blank cell announcement”.

If you check it, Jaws will say “blank” and the coordinates. If you uncheck it, Jaws will only say the cell coordinates when a cell is blank, but not the word “blank”.

It’s a bit more of a mode for advanced users who just don’t want to hear blank all the time, after getting used to it I prefer it since Jaws will of course still read out the cell content of not blank cells, but I don’t have to hear “blank” to know a cell is bank.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: JFW List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws Not Reporting Blank for Empty Cells in Excel

 

I'm reposting this question so it gets it's own thread.

Hi,
I'm having the below issue when navigating in excel. 
When I use up and down arrrow to navigate, if the cell is blank, jaws is 100% silent. 
How can I fix this? 
Using office 365, windows 10 and jaws 2020, latest update 
Thanks,
Jessica

 

moderated Jaws Not Reporting Blank for Empty Cells in Excel

Mike B
 

I'm reposting this question so it gets it's own thread.
Hi,
I'm having the below issue when navigating in excel. 
When I use up and down arrrow to navigate, if the cell is blank, jaws is 100% silent. 
How can I fix this? 
Using office 365, windows 10 and jaws 2020, latest update 
Thanks,
Jessica
 

moderated Re: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.

Mike B
 


Here's another thought / guess.  Did you make any changes to the Jaws default dictionary in Jaws18 that might cause this problem?  If you did something to the JFD in Jaws18, that would have carried over to Jaws2019 if you imported your settings from J18 to J2019.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: JAWS is silant when there is a date in a line of text.

I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and office 2007 and Windows Live Mail.  Each time that I type a date like March 22 in a word document or an email, JAWS will not read anything in that line of text where the date is.  It doesn't say anything at all.  This has been happening for a while, it even happened with JAWS 18.  Has anyone else experienced this?

moderated Re: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.

Mike B
 


Hi Marty,
 
Have you tried running Jaws with its default settings to rule out if it's a Jaws setting?  If not, try the following:
Hold down the, Insert key, then press the, spacebar, to activate the layered keystroke feature then press the letter, Z.  This will temporarily bypass
your settings and put Jaws into it's factory default settings mode.  This keystroke is a toggle so, press the key combination sequence again to go back
to your personal settings.
 
Also, try emailing tech support using any of the below email addresses to se FS VFO, / Vispero tech support can help you.
 
 
 
 
 

 
Temporary bypass using current User Settings and use JAWS factory default = Z.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.

Mike,  Thanks for your suggestion.  Both my Word and mail are set to Word Classic already.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.
 
Hi Marty,
 
Have you tried changing the speech / sound scheme to see if it'll help?  Press, Insert, Alt + S, and the current scheme will be highlighted, try changing to, Classic, if it isn't already to see if it'll help.  In Word, try the, Word Classic, scheme.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.

I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and office 2007 and Windows Live Mail.  Each time that I type a date like March 22 in a word document or an email, JAWS will not read anything in that line of text where the date is.  It doesn't say anything at all.  This has been happening for a while, it even happened with JAWS 18.  Has anyone else experienced this?

moderated Re: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.

Marty Hutchings
 

Mike,  Thanks for your suggestion.  Both my Word and mail are set to Word Classic already.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.
 
Hi Marty,
 
Have you tried changing the speech / sound scheme to see if it'll help?  Press, Insert, Alt + S, and the current scheme will be highlighted, try changing to, Classic, if it isn't already to see if it'll help.  In Word, try the, Word Classic, scheme.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: JAWS is silent when there is a date in a line of text.

I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and office 2007 and Windows Live Mail.  Each time that I type a date like March 22 in a word document or an email, JAWS will not read anything in that line of text where the date is.  It doesn't say anything at all.  This has been happening for a while, it even happened with JAWS 18.  Has anyone else experienced this?

moderated Re: Creating website with JAWS

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Ann!

 

There are some accessibility advantages when you have your own domain as opposed to a free domain hosted at wordpress.com.  I use bluehost.com; and they have a one-click install of WP.  I will not go into these accessibility advantages here, but there are more than a few.  Plus, having your own domain and a hosted site gives you full control, more flexibility and it is pretty inexpensive. 

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating website with JAWS

 

Hi,

Is it necessary to use a paid Wordpress account or is creating free Wordpress sites just as accessible with Jaws?

And any specific Wordpress book recommendations?

Thanks,
~Ann



On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 08:03 PM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Hi Thabo!

 

I have used WordPress, Drupal and learned some HTML.  For sure, WP is the best.  Learning some HTML is helpful too, but not critical.  Drupal seems to be more of an enterprise CMS.  WP can do it all; accessibly too.  Use its “classic editor.”  Get a book on using WP from Bookshare.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thabo Baseki
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 6:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Creating website with JAWS

 

 Good day friends!

 

Thank you for adding me to the mailing list. This is my first post to the group, and I am excited, I can have my inquiries head. 

 

 I have never created a website before, and I want to learn how to do it. Where can I start? Is the place accessible with jars? Some people were telling me that I should use notepad, how is that effective?

 

Thank you for all the suggestions in advance!

 

Best regards

 

 

 

Thabo