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unload and load jaws 2nd edition

Andrew J. LaPointe

#76332

Hi All, after working with the key strokes recommended,I found that the jaws key and f4 is easy to unload and the windows key r and type jaws2020 works much faster for me. Just wanted to mention that. Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

Re: Creating website with JAWS

Jessica D

#76331

Hi,

I'm using wordpress, and absolutely love it!

Thanks,

Jessica

Get Outlook for iOS

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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Nermin via Groups.Io <voy44@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 1:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating website with JAWS

Hi,

you were probably refering to Drupal, spelt d,r,u,p,a,l, which is a content management system.

Regards,

Nermin

Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki

#76330

Generic instruction is below. Since I did not get the information I have requested I cannot give more detailed info:

First of all, you need to get the local IP address of your machine. Thic can be achieved in some ways, but this has already been covered by others.
With that information in hand, login to your router from your computer. The default gateway should be: 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1. However if your network settings are different, you might need to get the gateway information. To get it, enter the cmd and type: ipconfig | findstr Gateway. This command will first invoke the ipconfig, and then redirect its output to findstr, which in turn will give back your gateway.
Copy it with your favorite way and enter the router with that information
Login to the router: the default data is admin for username and admin for the password, but ISPs tend to change these more and more often, so you might refer to your ISP for details.
Find an option regarding forwarding ports, or DMS. Keep in mind, that by enabling DMZ you expose yourself to even more risk than you do normally.
If you go for the port forwarding, you need to forward port 3389, both TCP and UDP, since this is the port RDP operates on.
If prompted, enter your local machine’s IP address.
If you go for the DMZ route, just enable the thing and enter your local machine address. Again: not recommended.

HTH.

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 5:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Hi,

In case anyone is curious, the remote desktop app is 99% accessible.

There are 2 buttons, that aren't technically labealed, , but voiceover provides hints for what they are.

Thanks, Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:
Worry not about what she is doing or attempting to do. Worry not why she is attempting to do this.
If you don't know "what she is attempting to do" or "why she is attempting to do it" then giving step-by-step instructions is impossible. Hence my much earlier request. There are also many instances where someone has really not given adequate thought to what they're trying to do out of ignorance of other options.

Using a third party tool would be much easier, and more secure, than attempting to use remote desktop as is being proposed. I thought even JAWS Tandem had a setting that allows remote connection unattended, but am absolutely not certain about that. There are a number of utilities that do allow remote connections unattended at one end.
--
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.
~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Word 365: Unable to see open doc

Arkadiusz Świętnicki

#76329

Try pressing Alt+F7 while in the window.

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Word 365: Unable to see open doc

Hi group,

I’m using Jaws 2020 with Word 365. Earlier today I had Microsoft tech support change some settings that I couldn’t find regarding line and paragraph spacing. Since then I can’t see a document when I open it. I suspect there is a window covering my doc because when I try to open my document, whether from the Documents folder or from within Word, I hear

“name of document, try the new Office mobile app, print view”

I can’t figure out how to get to my document, I can’t even read any of it, Jaws just says blank, like there’s just one line in the document and it’s blank. Word is maximized. .

I hope somebody can help me with this…I’m closing in fast on my 19^th nervous breakdown,

Thanks,

Norma

Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Rick Mladek

#76328

You go girl!

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Hi,

In case anyone is curious, the remote desktop app is 99% accessible.

There are 2 buttons, that aren't technically labealed, , but voiceover provides hints for what they are.

Thanks, Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:
Worry not about what she is doing or attempting to do. Worry not why she is attempting to do this.
If you don't know "what she is attempting to do" or "why she is attempting to do it" then giving step-by-step instructions is impossible. Hence my much earlier request. There are also many instances where someone has really not given adequate thought to what they're trying to do out of ignorance of other options.

Using a third party tool would be much easier, and more secure, than attempting to use remote desktop as is being proposed. I thought even JAWS Tandem had a setting that allows remote connection unattended, but am absolutely not certain about that. There are a number of utilities that do allow remote connections unattended at one end.
--
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.
~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Creating website with JAWS

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>

#76327

Hi.

For users of JAWS the third party Leasey add-on has a feature called the HTML Assistant. While it's not a full Web authoring tool you can bring up different HTML tags from a list and insert them into a document. Tags can include headings, links, etc. More tags are being added in version 5, due out soon.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/6/2020 11:17 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

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The first step if you want to do it yourself, rather than depending on a program that uses pre-written templates is to learn HTML code at whatever level you wish.
NotePad will only be useful if you know the coding required.

There are tons of online tutorials to learn how to create websites.

I did it so long ago that I don't have specific ones in mind.

I think NotePad++ may have some templates, but someone else I'm sure will chime in.

Enjoy,

Richard
"There's a nap for that."

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“

On Mar 6, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:

Good day friends!

Thank you for adding me to the mailing list. This is my first post to the group, and I am excited, I can have my inquiries head.

I have never created a website before, and I want to learn how to do it. Where can I start? Is the place accessible with jars? Some people were telling me that I should use notepad, how is that effective?

Thank you for all the suggestions in advance!

Best regards

Thabo

JAWS certified-2020

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certification

Re: Creating website with JAWS

Nermin

#76326

Hi,

you were probably refering to Drupal, spelt d,r,u,p,a,l, which is a content management system.

Regards,

Nermin

Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Jessica D

#76325

Hi,

In case anyone is curious, the remote desktop app is 99% accessible.

There are 2 buttons, that aren't technically labealed, , but voiceover provides hints for what they are.

Thanks, Jessica

Show quoted text

On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Worry not about what she is doing or attempting to do. Worry not why she is attempting to do this.
If you don't know "what she is attempting to do" or "why she is attempting to do it" then giving step-by-step instructions is impossible. Hence my much earlier request. There are also many instances where someone has really not given adequate thought to what they're trying to do out of ignorance of other options.

Using a third party tool would be much easier, and more secure, than attempting to use remote desktop as is being proposed. I thought even JAWS Tandem had a setting that allows remote connection unattended, but am absolutely not certain about that. There are a number of utilities that do allow remote connections unattended at one end.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Brian Vogel

#76324

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Worry not about what she is doing or attempting to do. Worry not why she is attempting to do this.

If you don't know "what she is attempting to do" or "why she is attempting to do it" then giving step-by-step instructions is impossible. Hence my much earlier request. There are also many instances where someone has really not given adequate thought to what they're trying to do out of ignorance of other options.

Using a third party tool would be much easier, and more secure, than attempting to use remote desktop as is being proposed. I thought even JAWS Tandem had a setting that allows remote connection unattended, but am absolutely not certain about that. There are a number of utilities that do allow remote connections unattended at one end.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Sieghard Weitzel

#76323

Not much point, the Remote Desktop app on iOS is not accessible anyways.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Hi,

I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it.

I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad.

The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020.

You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to.

You also need internet access.

Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs.

Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name.

After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it.

Can anyone help?

I'm so close to finally getting this.

Thanks,

Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here? And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Word 365: Unable to see open doc

Chris Hill

#76322

That thing about office mobile is just in the message bar, you should be able to f6 to it, and tab until you find a close button, it won't come back. I don't think it has anything to do with your problem because I had no trouble reading a document with that on the message bar. I really don't know what to suggest, other than make sure the program is maximized.

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On 3/6/2020 19:07, Norma A. Boge wrote:

Hi group,

I’m using Jaws 2020 with Word 365. Earlier today I had Microsoft tech support change some settings that I couldn’t find regarding line and paragraph spacing. Since then I can’t see a document when I open it. I suspect there is a window covering my doc because when I try to open my document, whether from the Documents folder or from within Word, I hear

“name of document, try the new Office mobile app, print view”

I can’t figure out how to get to my document, I can’t even read any of it, Jaws just says blank, like there’s just one line in the document and it’s blank. Word is maximized. .

I hope somebody can help me with this…I’m closing in fast on my 19^th nervous breakdown,

Thanks,

Norma

Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Rick Mladek

#76321

She is attempting to connect to one of her computers, maybe work/maybe not, however, this is not a computer within her LAN. She is needing step by step instructions to connect the two. Don’t as why, if you know, give her the steps. This has gone on too long. If you do not know how to connect, using a 3^rd-party app as team viewer, I believe it is called, or another. Worry not about what she is doing or attempting to do. Worry not why she is attempting to do this. If you can, giver step one, step two and on and on in clear detail. Otherwise, lets end this thread please.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here? And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

~ Joshua Liebman

Word 365: Unable to see open doc

Norma A. Boge

#76320

Hi group,

I’m using Jaws 2020 with Word 365. Earlier today I had Microsoft tech support change some settings that I couldn’t find regarding line and paragraph spacing. Since then I can’t see a document when I open it. I suspect there is a window covering my doc because when I try to open my document, whether from the Documents folder or from within Word, I hear

“name of document, try the new Office mobile app, print view”

I can’t figure out how to get to my document, I can’t even read any of it, Jaws just says blank, like there’s just one line in the document and it’s blank. Word is maximized. .

I hope somebody can help me with this…I’m closing in fast on my 19^th nervous breakdown,

Thanks,

Norma

Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Mario

#76319

Bill's right, the keystroke is insert+windows+f4 to unload and reload JAWS. did you try it Dan?

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-------- Original Message --------
From: Dan Longmore [mailto:danlongmore44@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 6, 2020, 7:18 PM
Subject: unload and reload Jaws?
No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re
start from shortcut key or other options is required.

Dan

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White
*Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:

JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith
*Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Not here.

I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke  on
my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10

*From: *netbat66 <mailto:netbat66@gmail.com>
*Sent: *06 March 2020 23:54
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: unload and reload Jaws?

jaws already has this option.

press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.

-----Original Message-----

From: David Griffith

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Personally as   a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same

behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N
will

close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further
intervention. Jaws

should do the same thing  with control alt J.

This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or
speech

has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA
instantly

restarts itself with this forced restart.

In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down
and

then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself
recognises that

it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself  without any

intervention from the user. The drawback  it that it normally takes quite a

time to come to this conclusion.

Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not
always

straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons
on my

system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely
unload, even

though only one instance of Jaws is talking.

A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost

instances of Jaws.

I would much prefer NVDA’s  one shortcut approach  which in my
experience never

results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: ben

Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi,

The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:

One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type

jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.

Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop.
Press j

for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop
method is

if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might
land on

one of those.

I hope this helps.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@comcast.net
<mailto:alapointe89@comcast.net>> wrote:

﻿

Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4.  When I
wanted

to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work.  Is there a
new

way of reloading Jaws now?  I am using the latest jaws 20.  What I had
to do

was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup.  Thank you
for

your help.  Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at
Humanware.

Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!!
Andy and

Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

Re: unload and reload Jaws?

netbat66

#76318

jaws windows f4 ddoes work.
it will reload jaws but it also generates a error report to sent to the sparrow when it reloads.
thats why it takes longer to reload.

Show quoted text

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.

Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:

JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Not here.

I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke  on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: netbat66
Sent: 06 March 2020 23:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

jaws already has this option.

press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.

-----Original Message----- 

From: David Griffith

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Personally as   a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same

behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will

close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws

should do the same thing  with control alt J.

This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech

has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly

restarts itself with this forced restart.

In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and

then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that

it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself  without any

intervention from the user. The drawback  it that it normally takes quite a

time to come to this conclusion.

Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always

straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my

system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even

though only one instance of Jaws is talking.

A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost

instances of Jaws.

I would much prefer NVDA’s  one shortcut approach  which in my experience never

results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: ben

Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi,

The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:

One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type

jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.

Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j

for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is

if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on

one of those.

I hope this helps.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@comcast.net> wrote:

﻿

Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4.  When I wanted

to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work.  Is there a new

way of reloading Jaws now?  I am using the latest jaws 20.  What I had to do

was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup.  Thank you for

your help.  Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.

Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!!  Andy and

Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

Re: unload and reload Jaws?

James Bentley

#76317

The Exact same here for me using Jaws 2020 and latest Win10.

James B From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Not for me. JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4 unloads JAWS, dumps from memory and reloads JAWS.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

Show quoted text

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.

Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:

JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Not here.

I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: netbat66
Sent: 06 March 2020 23:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

jaws already has this option.

press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.

-----Original Message-----

From: David Griffith

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same

behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will

close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws

should do the same thing with control alt J.

This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech

has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly

restarts itself with this forced restart.

In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and

then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that

it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any

intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a

time to come to this conclusion.

Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always

straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my

system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even

though only one instance of Jaws is talking.

A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost

instances of Jaws.

I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never

results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: ben

Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi,

The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:

One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type

jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.

Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j

for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is

if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on

one of those.

I hope this helps.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted

to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new

way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do

was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for

your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.

Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and

Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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Re: JAWS spell

Don Walls

#76316

Just tried and your suggestion didn’t work. However, it pointed to the settings via utilities and that seems to have turned off the unwanted commentary.

Don

Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Randy Barnett

#76315

jaws key plus windows key plus F4 is the equivalent of this in NVDA. It will also generate an error report you can send to FS.

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On 3/6/2020 3:42 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J.

This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart.

In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion.

Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking.

A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws.

I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: ben
Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi,

The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:

One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.

Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those.

I hope this helps.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Bill White

#76314

Not for me. JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4 unloads JAWS, dumps from memory and reloads JAWS.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.

Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:

JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Not here.

I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: netbat66
Sent: 06 March 2020 23:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

jaws already has this option.

press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.

-----Original Message-----

From: David Griffith

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same

behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will

close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws

should do the same thing with control alt J.

This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech

has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly

restarts itself with this forced restart.

In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and

then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that

it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any

intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a

time to come to this conclusion.

Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always

straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my

system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even

though only one instance of Jaws is talking.

A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost

instances of Jaws.

I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never

results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: ben

Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi,

The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:

One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type

jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.

Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j

for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is

if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on

one of those.

I hope this helps.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted

to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new

way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do

was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for

your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.

Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and

Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Randy Barnett

#76313

Good. I am considering this for my work and home pc's.

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On 3/6/2020 3:42 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

It will, because the Remote Desktop can transmit sound normally

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 12:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Are you saying jaws wont work with remote desktop software without a remote license?

On 3/6/2020 3:15 PM, Abraham Sweiss wrote:

This is not a trivial task and has a lot of security implications.s

And once you get this to work, unless you have jars with the remote access license on your tablet, all you will have as an image of your computer with no sound.

Can we get more information on why remote access to your computer is needed. With this information we may be able to provide alternative solutions.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it.

I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad.

The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020.

You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to.

You also need internet access.

Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs.

Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name.

After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it.

Can anyone help?

I'm so close to finally getting this.

Thanks,

Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here? And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

~ Joshua Liebman