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unload and load jaws 2nd edition
Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi All, after working with the key strokes recommended,I found that the jaws key and f4 is easy to unload and the windows key r and type jaws2020 works much faster for me. Just wanted to mention that. Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
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Re: Creating website with JAWS
Jessica D
From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Nermin via Groups.Io <voy44@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 1:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating website with JAWS Hi,
you were probably refering to Drupal, spelt d,r,u,p,a,l, which is a content management system.
Regards,
Nermin
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Generic instruction is below. Since I did not get the information I have requested I cannot give more detailed info:
HTH.
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 5:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Hi, In case anyone is curious, the remote desktop app is 99% accessible.
There are 2 buttons, that aren't technically labealed, , but voiceover provides hints for what they are.
Thanks, Jessica
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Re: Word 365: Unable to see open doc
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Try pressing Alt+F7 while in the window.
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Word 365: Unable to see open doc
Hi group,
I’m using Jaws 2020 with Word 365. Earlier today I had Microsoft tech support change some settings that I couldn’t find regarding line and paragraph spacing. Since then I can’t see a document when I open it. I suspect there is a window covering my doc because when I try to open my document, whether from the Documents folder or from within Word, I hear
“name of document, try the new Office mobile app, print view”
I can’t figure out how to get to my document, I can’t even read any of it, Jaws just says blank, like there’s just one line in the document and it’s blank. Word is maximized. . I hope somebody can help me with this…I’m closing in fast on my 19th nervous breakdown,
Thanks, Norma
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Rick Mladek
You go girl!
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 11:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Hi, In case anyone is curious, the remote desktop app is 99% accessible.
There are 2 buttons, that aren't technically labealed, , but voiceover provides hints for what they are.
Thanks, Jessica
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Re: Creating website with JAWS
David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Hi. For users of JAWS the third party Leasey add-on has a feature called the HTML Assistant. While it's not a full Web authoring tool you can bring up different HTML tags from a list and insert them into a document. Tags can include headings, links, etc. More tags are being added in version 5, due out soon.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 3/6/2020 11:17 AM, Richard Turner
wrote:
The first step if you want to do it yourself, rather than depending on a program that uses pre-written templates is to learn HTML code at whatever level you wish.
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Re: Creating website with JAWS
Nermin
Hi,
you were probably refering to Drupal, spelt d,r,u,p,a,l, which is a content
management system.
Regards,
Nermin
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Jessica D
Hi,
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In case anyone is curious, the remote desktop app is 99% accessible. There are 2 buttons, that aren't technically labealed, , but voiceover provides hints for what they are. Thanks, Jessica
On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:
Worry not about what she is doing or attempting to do. Worry not why she is attempting to do this.If you don't know "what she is attempting to do" or "why she is attempting to do it" then giving step-by-step instructions is impossible. Hence my much earlier request. There are also many instances where someone has really not given adequate thought to what they're trying to do out of ignorance of other options. Using a third party tool would be much easier, and more secure, than attempting to use remote desktop as is being proposed. I thought even JAWS Tandem had a setting that allows remote connection unattended, but am absolutely not certain about that. There are a number of utilities that do allow remote connections unattended at one end. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Not much point, the Remote Desktop app on iOS is not accessible anyways.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 1:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Hi, I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it. I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad. The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020. You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to. You also need internet access.
Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs.
Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name. After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it.
Can anyone help? I'm so close to finally getting this.
Thanks, Jessica
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Re: Word 365: Unable to see open doc
Chris Hill
That thing about office mobile is just in the message bar, you should be able to f6 to it, and tab until you find a close button, it won't come back. I don't think it has anything to do with your problem because I had no trouble reading a document with that on the message bar. I really don't know what to suggest, other than make sure the program is maximized.
On 3/6/2020 19:07, Norma A. Boge wrote:
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Rick Mladek
She is attempting to connect to one of her computers, maybe work/maybe not, however, this is not a computer within her LAN. She is needing step by step instructions to connect the two. Don’t as why, if you know, give her the steps. This has gone on too long. If you do not know how to connect, using a 3rd-party app as team viewer, I believe it is called, or another. Worry not about what she is doing or attempting to do. Worry not why she is attempting to do this. If you can, giver step one, step two and on and on in clear detail. Otherwise, lets end this thread please.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Jessica, Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Word 365: Unable to see open doc
Norma A. Boge
Hi group,
I’m using Jaws 2020 with Word 365. Earlier today I had Microsoft tech support change some settings that I couldn’t find regarding line and paragraph spacing. Since then I can’t see a document when I open it. I suspect there is a window covering my doc because when I try to open my document, whether from the Documents folder or from within Word, I hear
“name of document, try the new Office mobile app, print view”
I can’t figure out how to get to my document, I can’t even read any of it, Jaws just says blank, like there’s just one line in the document and it’s blank. Word is maximized. . I hope somebody can help me with this…I’m closing in fast on my 19th nervous breakdown,
Thanks, Norma
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Mario
Bill's right, the keystroke is insert+windows+f4 to unload and reload JAWS. did you try it Dan?
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From: Dan Longmore [mailto:danlongmore44@gmail.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, March 6, 2020, 7:18 PM Subject: unload and reload Jaws? No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required. Dan *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS: JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws? Not here. I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it. David Griffith Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 *From: *netbat66 <mailto:netbat66@gmail.com> *Sent: *06 March 2020 23:54 *To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: unload and reload Jaws? jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it. -----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J. This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart. In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion. Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking. A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws. I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows: One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking. Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those. I hope this helps. On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@comcast.net <mailto:alapointe89@comcast.net>> wrote: Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185 Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
netbat66
jaws windows f4 ddoes work.
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it will reload jaws but it also generates a error report to sent to the sparrow when it reloads. thats why it takes longer to reload.
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From: Dan Longmore Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 4:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required. Dan From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS: JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Not here. I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: netbat66 Sent: 06 March 2020 23:54 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it. -----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J. This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart. In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion. Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking. A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws. I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows: One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking. Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those. I hope this helps. On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@comcast.net> wrote: Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185 Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
James Bentley
The Exact same here for me using Jaws 2020 and latest Win10.
James B From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Not for me. JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4 unloads JAWS, dumps from memory and reloads JAWS.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:
JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Not here. I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: netbat66
jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
-----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center
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Re: JAWS spell
Don Walls
Just
tried and your suggestion didn’t work. However, it pointed to the settings
via utilities and that seems to have turned off the unwanted
commentary. Don
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Randy Barnett
jaws key plus windows key plus F4 is the equivalent of this in
NVDA. It will also generate an error report you can send to FS.
On 3/6/2020 3:42 PM, David Griffith
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Bill White
Not for me. JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4 unloads JAWS, dumps from memory and reloads JAWS.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:
JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Not here. I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: netbat66
jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
-----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Randy Barnett
Good. I am considering this for my work and home pc's.
On 3/6/2020 3:42 PM, Arkadiusz
Świętnicki wrote:
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