Not here.

I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke  on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

jaws already has this option.

press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.

-----Original Message-----

From: David Griffith

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Personally as   a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same

behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will

close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws

should do the same thing  with control alt J.

This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech

has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly

restarts itself with this forced restart.

In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and

then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that

it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself  without any

intervention from the user. The drawback  it that it normally takes quite a

time to come to this conclusion.

Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always

straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my

system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even

though only one instance of Jaws is talking.

A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost

instances of Jaws.

I would much prefer NVDA’s  one shortcut approach  which in my experience never

results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: ben

Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi,

The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:

One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type

jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.

Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j

for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is

if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on

one of those.

I hope this helps.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:



Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4.  When I wanted

to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work.  Is there a new

way of reloading Jaws now?  I am using the latest jaws 20.  What I had to do

was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup.  Thank you for

your help.  Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.

Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!!  Andy and

Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

jaws already has this option.

press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.

-----Original Message-----

From: David Griffith

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Personally as   a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same

behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will

close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws

should do the same thing  with control alt J.

This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech

has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly

restarts itself with this forced restart.

In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and

then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that

it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself  without any

intervention from the user. The drawback  it that it normally takes quite a

time to come to this conclusion.

Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always

straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my

system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even

though only one instance of Jaws is talking.

A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost

instances of Jaws.

I would much prefer NVDA’s  one shortcut approach  which in my experience never

results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: ben

Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

Hi,

The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:

One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type

jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.

Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j

for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is

if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on

one of those.

I hope this helps.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:



Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4.  When I wanted

to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work.  Is there a new

way of reloading Jaws now?  I am using the latest jaws 20.  What I had to do

was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup.  Thank you for

your help.  Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.

Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!!  Andy and

Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

----- Original Message -----

From: Jessica D

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:50 PM

Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

 

Hi,

Do you know how to do it? 

Can you provide exact steps? 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:



For this to work, you need public IP address, open ports and so on. It is not that easy.

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 10:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Hi,

I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it. 

I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad. 

The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020. 

You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to. 

You also need internet access. 

Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs. 

Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name. 

After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it. 

Can anyone help? 

I'm so close to finally getting this. 

Thanks,

Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here?  And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things  you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Are you saying jaws wont work with remote desktop software without a remote license?

This is not a trivial task and has a lot of security implications.s

 

And once you get this to work, unless you have jars with the remote access license on your tablet, all you will have as an image of your computer with no sound.

Can we get more information on why remote access to your computer is needed. With this information we may be able to provide alternative solutions.

 

Thanks,abraham 

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it. 

I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad. 

The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020. 

You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to. 

You also need internet access. 

 

Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs. 

 

Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name. 

After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it. 

 

Can anyone help? 

I'm so close to finally getting this. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here?  And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things  you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Hi, 

This is not a trivial task and has a lot of security implications.s

And once you get this to work, unless you have jars with the remote access license on your tablet, all you will have as an image of your computer with no sound.

Can we get more information on why remote access to your computer is needed. With this information we may be able to provide alternative solutions.

Thanks,abraham 

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it. 

I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad. 

The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020. 

You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to. 

You also need internet access. 

Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs. 

Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name. 

After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it. 

Can anyone help? 

I'm so close to finally getting this. 

Thanks,

Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here?  And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things  you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Hi,

I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it. 

I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad. 

The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020. 

You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to. 

You also need internet access. 

Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs. 

Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name. 

After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it. 

Can anyone help? 

I'm so close to finally getting this. 

Thanks,

Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here?  And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things  you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

----- Original Message -----

From: Jessica D

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:50 PM

Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Hi,

Do you know how to do it? 

Can you provide exact steps? 

Thanks,

Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:



For this to work, you need public IP address, open ports and so on. It is not that easy.

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 10:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Hi,

I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it. 

I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad. 

The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020. 

You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to. 

You also need internet access. 

Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs. 

Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name. 

After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it. 

Can anyone help? 

I'm so close to finally getting this. 

Thanks,

Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here?  And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things  you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:



Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4.  When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work.  Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now?  I am using the latest jaws 20.  What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup.  Thank you for your help.  Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.  Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!!  Andy and Shubert

 

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

 

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

 

The first step if you want to do it yourself, rather than depending on a program that uses pre-written templates is to learn HTML code at whatever level you wish.

How do you refine the hot keys alt control and j? I also tried the windows key r and typed jaws2020 and that worked...thank you to the reply that gave me that information.. I just thought that the hot keys would be quicker Thank you Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?

jaws key and j.
control alt j is the shortcut keys to load jaws from the desktop icon. when jaws is installed this shortcut is removed and you have to re define it again.
then you will be able to either shortcuts to bring up the jaws dialog to quit the program.


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 12:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: unload and reload Jaws?



Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted
to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new
way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do
was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for
your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.
Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and
Shubert



Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185



Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center

Hi,

Hi,

So what do I do if I want to access it outside the network?

Thanks,

Jessica

Get Outlook for iOS

 

---

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...>
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

 

Of course that is only the internal IP address, not useful if it is needed from somewhere outside the LAN.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Randy Barnett

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 1:42 PM

Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

Just type ipconfig in the command line and it will give you all the relevant info for your network.

On 3/6/2020 8:10 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi

Thanks, now it wants a domain/username, so how do I find that? 

Thanks, Jessica

On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

I presume you're looking for the IP address on your local area network.  I find it much easier to do this on the machine where I want it by running the following command sequence under command prompt:

ipconfig | findstr IPv4

The IPv4 must be entered with the first two characters upper case, and the v in lower case, for this to work correctly.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:



For this to work, you need public IP address, open ports and so on. It is not that easy.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 10:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?

 

Hi,

I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it. 

I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad. 

The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020. 

You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to. 

You also need internet access. 

 

Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs. 

 

Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name. 

After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it. 

 

Can anyone help? 

I'm so close to finally getting this. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Jessica,

What is it, precisely, that you're trying to accomplish here?  And using what program or instructions?

Any of a million things can ask for the things  you're asking about and it would make it much easier to help if one has the whole picture.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Hi,

Hi,

Instead of rebooting your PC.  Just go in to the Windows run menu by typing, Windows key+R.  Then type, jaws2020, and hit enter.  This usually brings Jaws back up when Alt control J doesn’t work.

James B

Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4.  When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work.  Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now?  I am using the latest jaws 20.  What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup.  Thank you for your help.  Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.  Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!!  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook

Talking Information Center