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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Bill White
Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:
JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Not here. I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.
David Griffith
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From: netbat66
jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
-----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
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From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
David Griffith
Not here. I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: netbat66
Sent: 06 March 2020 23:54 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
-----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
netbat66
jaws already has this option.
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press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J. This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart. In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion. Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking. A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws. I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows: One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking. Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those. I hope this helps. On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@comcast.net> wrote: Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185 Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Dan Longmore
Yes, just used Team viewer today.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 6:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Is there still a team viewer remote? That was like Jaws remote and NVDA remote, only it was going through Team Viewer. Glenn
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Arkadiusz Świętnicki
It will, because the Remote Desktop can transmit sound normally
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 12:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Are you saying jaws wont work with remote desktop software without a remote license? On 3/6/2020 3:15 PM, Abraham Sweiss wrote:
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
David Griffith
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion. Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ben
Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows: One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those.
I hope this helps.
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Randy Barnett
Are you saying jaws wont work with remote desktop software
without a remote license?
On 3/6/2020 3:15 PM, Abraham Sweiss
wrote:
This is not a trivial task and has a lot of security implications.s
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Abraham Sweiss
This is not a trivial task and has a lot of security implications.s
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And once you get this to work, unless you have jars with the remote access license on your tablet, all you will have as an image of your computer with no sound. Can we get more information on why remote access to your computer is needed. With this information we may be able to provide alternative solutions. Thanks,abraham
On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Glenn / Lenny
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Is there still a team viewer remote?
That was like Jaws remote and NVDA remote, only it
was going through Team Viewer.
Glenn
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JAWS spell
Don Walls
Well
friends, I’m having an interesting week – moved from a “dumb” phone to my first
IPhone and also updated from JAWS 17 to JAWS 2020. My new JAWS tells me I
have “misspelling” on various words – probably American rather than my Canadian
spelling. I’ve gone to the settings centre but can’t find where to silence
such prompts and sound effects. Any help gratefully received! Don
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
ben <swigjr23@...>
Hi,
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The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:
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Re: Creating website with JAWS
Lino Morales
There is also a program called Druple. Don’t know how accessible it is with JAWS.
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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 11:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating website with JAWS
The first step if you want to do it yourself, rather than depending on a program that uses pre-written templates is to learn HTML code at whatever level you wish. NotePad will only be useful if you know the coding required. There are tons of online tutorials to learn how to create websites. I did it so long ago that I don't have specific ones in mind. I think NotePad++ may have some templates, but someone else I'm sure will chime in. Enjoy,
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
John Covici
This is a very bad idea, because of bugs in Windows, an attacker could
take over your computer this way. In order to do this properly, you need a vpn server at your home. Also, your ip address can change at any time, unless you have a static ip address which most people do not have. On Fri, 06 Mar 2020 16:50:46 -0500, Jessica D wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Randy Barnett
on the desktop find the jaws icon and then press alt plus enter. now tab to the shortcut fieled and press j. now tab to OK and press it. alt ctrl j will start jaws.
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On 3/6/2020 1:20 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
How do you refine the hot keys alt control and j? I also tried the windows key r and typed jaws2020 and that worked...thank you to the reply that gave me that information.. I just thought that the hot keys would be quicker Thank you Andy and Shubert
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
I need more information to help uou. I need your ISP name, router model ETC. Then we can work. However this is getting way beyond the JAWS topics. Can I write you privately?
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 10:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Hi, Do you know how to do it? Can you provide exact steps?
Thanks, Jessica
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Randy Barnett
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On 3/6/2020 12:07 PM, Jessica D wrote:
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Jessica D
Hi,
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Do you know how to do it? Can you provide exact steps? Thanks, Jessica
On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
For this to work, you need public IP address, open ports and so on. It is not that easy.
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 10:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Hi, I have a computer, in outside my home, that I'd like to access, when I'm not physically near it. I have the remote desktop app on my iphone and ipad. The computer is running win10 pro, and jaws2020. You have to have a password on the computer you want to connect to. You also need internet access.
Once that's done, open the "remote desktop connection" app, and there are several tabs.
Under "advanced, I think it was where it asked for the server name. After that, it constantly asked for my password, and would not take it.
Can anyone help? I'm so close to finally getting this.
Thanks, Jessica
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Milton Ota
Another way is get to your desktop and hopefully JAWS 2020 is the only icon on your desktop that begins with the letter and type/hit the letter J and press enter.
You might want to check to see if you are missing the shortcut keystroke for JAWS 2020. I’ll let someone else explain how to get there and do it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 3:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
Instead of rebooting your PC. Just go in to the Windows run menu by typing, Windows key+R. Then type, jaws2020, and hit enter. This usually brings Jaws back up when Alt control J doesn’t work.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
David Diamond
I just set up the shortcut and if JAWS freezes up, I close it then open it again. That usually fixes the problem and can be done pretty much wherever you are on the screen.
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