----- Original Message -----

From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 1:52 PM

Subject: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

 

Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 1:43 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

 

I know, but for my friend it’s a dealbreaker. I would love this problem to be fixed! If it’s possible to report it or help in any way, just tell me how.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

 

Hi,

I find much more stability accessing the system tray with insert+F11.

HTH,

StanB

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW and the jumping tray

 

Hi friends!

I am sorry I post so many messages, but this place is new for me and it seems I have too many questions.

I and my friends notice a weird behavior regarding the system tray. Let’s say I open the tray (Windows+B) and navigate with arrow keys through the icons. Everything is good and fun, until I press a letter to navigate to the specific entry in the area. Then, when I press arrows, JFW automatically jumps to the icon I have previously selected with a letter, making the tray unusable by standard means.

Any ideas how can I fix it?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 1:52 PM

Subject: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 1:43 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

I know, but for my friend it’s a dealbreaker. I would love this problem to be fixed! If it’s possible to report it or help in any way, just tell me how.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

 

Hi,

I find much more stability accessing the system tray with insert+F11.

HTH,

StanB

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW and the jumping tray

 

Hi friends!

I am sorry I post so many messages, but this place is new for me and it seems I have too many questions.

I and my friends notice a weird behavior regarding the system tray. Let’s say I open the tray (Windows+B) and navigate with arrow keys through the icons. Everything is good and fun, until I press a letter to navigate to the specific entry in the area. Then, when I press arrows, JFW automatically jumps to the icon I have previously selected with a letter, making the tray unusable by standard means.

Any ideas how can I fix it?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Hi,

I find much more stability accessing the system tray with insert+F11.

HTH,

StanB

Hi friends!

I am sorry I post so many messages, but this place is new for me and it seems I have too many questions.

I and my friends notice a weird behavior regarding the system tray. Let’s say I open the tray (Windows+B) and navigate with arrow keys through the icons. Everything is good and fun, until I press a letter to navigate to the specific entry in the area. Then, when I press arrows, JFW automatically jumps to the icon I have previously selected with a letter, making the tray unusable by standard means.

Any ideas how can I fix it?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

Hi friends!

I am sorry I post so many messages, but this place is new for me and it seems I have too many questions.

I and my friends notice a weird behavior regarding the system tray. Let’s say I open the tray (Windows+B) and navigate with arrow keys through the icons. Everything is good and fun, until I press a letter to navigate to the specific entry in the area. Then, when I press arrows, JFW automatically jumps to the icon I have previously selected with a letter, making the tray unusable by standard means.

Any ideas how can I fix it?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

Hi friends!
I am sorry I post so many messages, but this place is new for me and it seems I have too many questions.
I and my friends notice a weird behavior regarding the system tray. Let’s say I open the tray (Windows+B) and navigate with arrow keys through the icons. Everything is good and fun, until I press a letter to navigate to the specific entry in the area. Then, when I press arrows, JFW automatically jumps to the icon I have previously selected with a letter, making the tray unusable by standard means.
Any ideas how can I fix it?
Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

----- Original Message -----

From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 12:33 PM

Subject: JFW and the jumping tray

Hi friends!

I am sorry I post so many messages, but this place is new for me and it seems I have too many questions.

I and my friends notice a weird behavior regarding the system tray. Let’s say I open the tray (Windows+B) and navigate with arrow keys through the icons. Everything is good and fun, until I press a letter to navigate to the specific entry in the area. Then, when I press arrows, JFW automatically jumps to the icon I have previously selected with a letter, making the tray unusable by standard means.

Any ideas how can I fix it?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Have you enabled the allow less secure apps on your Google account?

The only other thing I can think of is have you enabled the iamb a P in the forwarding section?

On Mar 4, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Brenda Emerson-Alford <blea417@...> wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I am completely frustrated. I have turned off two step verification on Gmail. I cleared every security critical warning asking if it was me. This morning I still get the same box asking me to enter a username for my Internet email account at Gmail. Which server should be listed as my server with Gmail? It was originally pop but I did change it over to SMPT. Let me know what you guys think.

On Mar 2, 2020, at 8:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

If you use 2-step authentication you probably have to create a so-called app specific password by logging in to your Gmail account online, it’s probably somewhere under the security section and then use that password instead of your regular Gmail password to log into Outlook.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem with Internet email in outlook

 

I am using jaws 2019 on windows 1903. I have Microsoft 2016. I am having a problem with Outlook receiving my Gmail. It had been working before I traveled. Even though I took my hotspot with me for Wi-Fi connection I was on able to originally get my email through outlook on my laptop. Eventually I was able to make it work through Gmail by responding to a critical alert and letting them know it was me. Now that I am back I cannot get my email to come through on Outlook. I continually receive a prompt to enter my password for my Gmail account. It is properly entered. I hit OK and I get the same message over and over again. I did go into Gmail and set up second verification using a text message. I’m not sure if that is interfering with things now or not. I had the problem before I set up the second verification process. I would love to hear any thoughts on what to do. Thanks.

On Feb 29, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I had to reset my computer today.

After the reset, I noticed that the mobile versions of the office apps, except Outlook were installed.

Outlook wasn’t there, so I figured I’d give the win10 mail app another shot.

 

I’ve used it before, but its been at least a year, since I tried it last.

 

Its working well, but I can’t figure out how to change the order of accounts, or if that’s even possible?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Brenda Emerson-Alford <blea417@...> wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I am completely frustrated. I have turned off two step verification on Gmail. I cleared every security critical warning asking if it was me. This morning I still get the same box asking me to enter a username for my Internet email account at Gmail. Which server should be listed as my server with Gmail? It was originally pop but I did change it over to SMPT. Let me know what you guys think.

On Mar 2, 2020, at 8:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

If you use 2-step authentication you probably have to create a so-called app specific password by logging in to your Gmail account online, it’s probably somewhere under the security section and then use that password instead of your regular Gmail password to log into Outlook.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem with Internet email in outlook

 

I am using jaws 2019 on windows 1903. I have Microsoft 2016. I am having a problem with Outlook receiving my Gmail. It had been working before I traveled. Even though I took my hotspot with me for Wi-Fi connection I was on able to originally get my email through outlook on my laptop. Eventually I was able to make it work through Gmail by responding to a critical alert and letting them know it was me. Now that I am back I cannot get my email to come through on Outlook. I continually receive a prompt to enter my password for my Gmail account. It is properly entered. I hit OK and I get the same message over and over again. I did go into Gmail and set up second verification using a text message. I’m not sure if that is interfering with things now or not. I had the problem before I set up the second verification process. I would love to hear any thoughts on what to do. Thanks.

On Feb 29, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I had to reset my computer today.

After the reset, I noticed that the mobile versions of the office apps, except Outlook were installed.

Outlook wasn’t there, so I figured I’d give the win10 mail app another shot.

 

I’ve used it before, but its been at least a year, since I tried it last.

 

Its working well, but I can’t figure out how to change the order of accounts, or if that’s even possible?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I am completely frustrated. I have turned off two step verification on Gmail. I cleared every security critical warning asking if it was me. This morning I still get the same box asking me to enter a username for my Internet email account at Gmail. Which server should be listed as my server with Gmail? It was originally pop but I did change it over to SMPT. Let me know what you guys think.

If you use 2-step authentication you probably have to create a so-called app specific password by logging in to your Gmail account online, it’s probably somewhere under the security section and then use that password instead of your regular Gmail password to log into Outlook.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem with Internet email in outlook

 

I am using jaws 2019 on windows 1903. I have Microsoft 2016. I am having a problem with Outlook receiving my Gmail. It had been working before I traveled. Even though I took my hotspot with me for Wi-Fi connection I was on able to originally get my email through outlook on my laptop. Eventually I was able to make it work through Gmail by responding to a critical alert and letting them know it was me. Now that I am back I cannot get my email to come through on Outlook. I continually receive a prompt to enter my password for my Gmail account. It is properly entered. I hit OK and I get the same message over and over again. I did go into Gmail and set up second verification using a text message. I’m not sure if that is interfering with things now or not. I had the problem before I set up the second verification process. I would love to hear any thoughts on what to do. Thanks.

On Feb 29, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I had to reset my computer today.

After the reset, I noticed that the mobile versions of the office apps, except Outlook were installed.

Outlook wasn’t there, so I figured I’d give the win10 mail app another shot.

 

I’ve used it before, but its been at least a year, since I tried it last.

 

Its working well, but I can’t figure out how to change the order of accounts, or if that’s even possible?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Have you tried going your control panel and type in the search box “mail” (without the quotes), then click on the email button. It brings you to a screen with several buttons. Find the one that says repair using your tab key and follow the screen prompts. HTH

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pramit
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 2:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Internet email in outlook

 

Hi Brenda,

 

If you have 2-step verification turned on, then with the current gmail password you'll not be able to get your email through outlook. 

To be able to receive gmail email through outlook, open your gmail account and navigate to security and then Turn On Less Secure App Access

And create a password for your outlook and use that new generated password to login to your outlook account.

Hope this helps

 

Pramit

 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:58 AM Brenda Emerson-Alford <blea417@...> wrote:

I am using jaws 2019 on windows 1903. I have Microsoft 2016. I am having a problem with Outlook receiving my Gmail. It had been working before I traveled. Even though I took my hotspot with me for Wi-Fi connection I was on able to originally get my email through outlook on my laptop. Eventually I was able to make it work through Gmail by responding to a critical alert and letting them know it was me. Now that I am back I cannot get my email to come through on Outlook. I continually receive a prompt to enter my password for my Gmail account. It is properly entered. I hit OK and I get the same message over and over again. I did go into Gmail and set up second verification using a text message. I’m not sure if that is interfering with things now or not. I had the problem before I set up the second verification process. I would love to hear any thoughts on what to do. Thanks.

On Feb 29, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I had to reset my computer today.

After the reset, I noticed that the mobile versions of the office apps, except Outlook were installed.

Outlook wasn’t there, so I figured I’d give the win10 mail app another shot.

 

I’ve used it before, but its been at least a year, since I tried it last.

 

Its working well, but I can’t figure out how to change the order of accounts, or if that’s even possible?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

If you use 2-step authentication you probably have to create a so-called app specific password by logging in to your Gmail account online, it’s probably somewhere under the security section and then use that password instead of your regular Gmail password to log into Outlook.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem with Internet email in outlook

 

I am using jaws 2019 on windows 1903. I have Microsoft 2016. I am having a problem with Outlook receiving my Gmail. It had been working before I traveled. Even though I took my hotspot with me for Wi-Fi connection I was on able to originally get my email through outlook on my laptop. Eventually I was able to make it work through Gmail by responding to a critical alert and letting them know it was me. Now that I am back I cannot get my email to come through on Outlook. I continually receive a prompt to enter my password for my Gmail account. It is properly entered. I hit OK and I get the same message over and over again. I did go into Gmail and set up second verification using a text message. I’m not sure if that is interfering with things now or not. I had the problem before I set up the second verification process. I would love to hear any thoughts on what to do. Thanks.

On Feb 29, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I had to reset my computer today.

After the reset, I noticed that the mobile versions of the office apps, except Outlook were installed.

Outlook wasn’t there, so I figured I’d give the win10 mail app another shot.

 

I’ve used it before, but its been at least a year, since I tried it last.

 

Its working well, but I can’t figure out how to change the order of accounts, or if that’s even possible?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:19 AM

Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  

Gerald

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

Gerald

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno