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moderated Re: How to create a new folder

CJ &AA MAY
 

It is amazing how many different ways there are to do the same thing. I think the control shift n to open a new folder is probably the easiest but I only discovered this after months of going to the view tab on the ribbon and shift tabbing back to "create new folder".
Alison
easis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: 23 February 2020 00:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a new folder

open a context menu where you want to create the folder. then press enter on new, there you will have the option to create a folder,bit map image, text document etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to create a new folder



Hi Listers,



Now that I have Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, I can’t figure out how to create a
new folder. It used to be really easy, but I can’t do it the way I used to.
Please help.



Thanks for any help.



Clueless,



Shirley Tracy





Shirley Tracy
moderated Re: How to create a new folder

Dave Durber
 


Hello Shirley:
 
the short cut keystroke to create a new folder in Windows 10 is, CTRL+SHIFT+N
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:24 AM
Subject: How to create a new folder

Hi Listers,

 

Now that I have Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, I can’t figure out how to create a new folder. It used to be really easy, but I can’t do it the way I used to. Please help.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Clueless,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Dave Durber
 

Hello Don:

He meant Task Manager, not Device manager.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Walls" <donwalls@telus.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


When I hit control alt delete, I can get to task manager but not device manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don,

hit control +alt +delete key (above arrow keys)
arrow down to device manager and hit enter
arrow down until you hear programs currently running. Microsoft Word for
example.
If this is what is not being able to close, once you hear the MS Word, hit
tab key until you hear close program and hit enter. It may take a few
attempts hitting the close program button and may also take a few seconds to
close the program. If other programs are needing closed, shift tab back to
the list and arrow up or down until you hear the next program needing
closed. again hit tab until you hear close program and hit enter. Repeat as
needed...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Thanks for your response. I can't use F4 with other functions. Not sure
what task manager is or how to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


Are you able to use alt +4 to kill other applications?

Are you able to kill the problematic apps using the task manager and task
function?

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:06 AM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if
that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British Columbia's
speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so started again with a
fresh format and we sent the completed form off. I could not close the
first form but shut down the computer. I don't know if it's related, but
since then I cannot close Word files or emails. I can open and read them
and move them, but I can't close them. If I'm in my email list, I can use
Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the open
email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4
function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I start it
up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020 in a
few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: How to create a new folder

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi David,

 

Thanks. I used to hit control+ N. And that doesn’t work any more. Didn’t know about control + shift + N.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a new folder

 

Hi.

The quickest way to create a new folder is to first open the folder that you want the folder to be created in. In other words, if you want to create a subfolder in your Documents folder open the Documents folder. Next, press shift-ctrl-N. You will be in an edit field. Type the name of the folder that you want to create, followed by the enter key.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 2/22/2020 7:24 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

Hi Listers,

 

Now that I have Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, I can’t figure out how to create a new folder. It used to be really easy, but I can’t do it the way I used to. Please help.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Clueless,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 
moderated Re: How to create a new folder

Shirley Tracy
 

Thanks.

 

Shirley

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: netbat66
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a new folder

 

open a context menu where you want to create the folder. then press enter on

new,  there you will have the option to create a folder,bit map image, text

document etc.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Shirley Tracy

Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 4:24 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: How to create a new folder

 

 

 

Hi Listers,

 

 

 

Now that I have Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, I can’t figure out how to create a

new folder. It used to be really easy, but I can’t do it the way I used to.

Please help.

 

 

 

Thanks for any help.

 

 

 

Clueless,

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
moderated Re: How to create a new folder

netbat66
 

open a context menu where you want to create the folder. then press enter on new, there you will have the option to create a folder,bit map image, text document etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to create a new folder



Hi Listers,



Now that I have Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, I can’t figure out how to create a new folder. It used to be really easy, but I can’t do it the way I used to. Please help.



Thanks for any help.



Clueless,



Shirley Tracy





Shirley Tracy
moderated Re: How to create a new folder

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi.

The quickest way to create a new folder is to first open the folder that you want the folder to be created in. In other words, if you want to create a subfolder in your Documents folder open the Documents folder. Next, press shift-ctrl-N. You will be in an edit field. Type the name of the folder that you want to create, followed by the enter key.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/22/2020 7:24 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

Hi Listers,

 

Now that I have Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, I can’t figure out how to create a new folder. It used to be really easy, but I can’t do it the way I used to. Please help.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Clueless,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 
moderated How to create a new folder

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Listers,

 

Now that I have Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, I can’t figure out how to create a new folder. It used to be really easy, but I can’t do it the way I used to. Please help.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Clueless,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Rick Mladek
 

My mistake, thank you... task manager is what you are wanting lol...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 3:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Device Manager deals with hardware drivers. don't confuse Task Manager with the Device Manager.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Rick Mladek [mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, February 22, 2020, 3:01 PM
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen
Try this one...
hit windows key and the letter-x at same time.
arrow down through all until you hear device manager and hit enter if this allows you in, arrow down until you her the program giving you the problem. Once highlighted, tab down to close program and hit enter. If more, shift tab back to the list and arrow down to next program and then tab to close program and hit enter... repeat as necessary/needed.

The next thing I would advise is if you can do an operating system repair...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

When I hit control alt delete, I can get to task manager but not device manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don,

hit control +alt +delete key (above arrow keys) arrow down to device manager and hit enter arrow down until you hear programs currently running.
Microsoft Word for example.
If this is what is not being able to close, once you hear the MS Word, hit tab key until you hear close program and hit enter. It may take a few attempts hitting the close program button and may also take a few seconds to close the program. If other programs are needing closed, shift tab back to the list and arrow up or down until you hear the next program needing closed. again hit tab until you hear close program and hit enter. Repeat as needed...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Thanks for your response. I can't use F4 with other functions. Not sure what task manager is or how to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


Are you able to use alt +4 to kill other applications?

Are you able to kill the problematic apps using the task manager and task function?

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:06 AM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off.
I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close them. If I'm in my email list, I can use

Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the open email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt
F4 function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020 in a

few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don



























.
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Mario
 

Device Manager deals with hardware drivers. don't confuse Task Manager with the Device Manager.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Rick Mladek [mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, February 22, 2020, 3:01 PM
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen
Try this one...
hit windows key and the letter-x at same time.
arrow down through all until you hear device manager and hit enter
if this allows you in, arrow down until you her the program giving you the
problem. Once highlighted, tab down to close program and hit enter. If more,
shift tab back to the list and arrow down to next program and then tab to
close program and hit enter... repeat as necessary/needed.

The next thing I would advise is if you can do an operating system repair...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

When I hit control alt delete, I can get to task manager but not device
manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don,

hit control +alt +delete key (above arrow keys) arrow down to device manager
and hit enter arrow down until you hear programs currently running.
Microsoft Word for example.
If this is what is not being able to close, once you hear the MS Word, hit
tab key until you hear close program and hit enter. It may take a few
attempts hitting the close program button and may also take a few seconds to
close the program. If other programs are needing closed, shift tab back to
the list and arrow up or down until you hear the next program needing
closed. again hit tab until you hear close program and hit enter. Repeat as
needed...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Thanks for your response. I can't use F4 with other functions. Not sure
what task manager is or how to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


Are you able to use alt +4 to kill other applications?

Are you able to kill the problematic apps using the task manager and task
function?

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:06 AM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if
that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British
Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so
started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off.
I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't
know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or
emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close
them. If I'm in my email list, I can use

Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the
open email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt
F4 function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I
start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders
reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020
in a

few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don



























.
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Richard Turner
 

Narrator is the built-in screen reader in Windows.
In Windows 10, it is pretty good as a backup when Jaws gets flakey.
Press Control+WindowsKey+Enter to start or stop Narrator.
It usually defaults to the Windows voice David.
So, you could unload Jaws and load Narrator to test the keystroke.


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What is Windows near raider?

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Does this issue persist when using windows near raider?

If yes, you may want to re-install jaws

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm using a desktop computer. Last night I could use JAWS key plus
F12 to get time as usual. Now I've tried that plus other key
combinations with the JAWS key and none of them works.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I was asking because some keyboards have a switch or button which
locks the function keys and yet others like the Logitech K780 require
you to press also the FN key along with any other key combination,
e.g. without Logitech Options software installed where you can tell
the function keys to behave normally, you would have to press FN + Alt + F4.
Another question I would have is whether this is on a laptop or a desktop?
If it's on a laptop, does Alt + F4 work if you use the laptop's keyboard?
Lastly, are other function key shortcuts working, e.g. Jaws Key + F7
to pull up a list of links on a website or even just Jaws Key + F10
for a list of open applications or Jaws Key + F11 to speak the time?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if
that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British
Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so
started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off.
I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't
know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or
emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close
them. If I'm in my email list, I can use Alt tab to get out of an
open email, then delete or move it, but the open email is still there.
I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4 function. My only resort
is to shut down the computer. When I start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020
in a few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don Walls
 

What is Windows near raider?

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Does this issue persist when using windows near raider?

If yes, you may want to re-install jaws

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm using a desktop computer. Last night I could use JAWS key plus F12 to get time as usual. Now I've tried that plus other key combinations with the JAWS key and none of them works.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I was asking because some keyboards have a switch or button which locks the function keys and yet others like the Logitech K780 require you to press also the FN key along with any other key combination, e.g. without Logitech Options software installed where you can tell the function keys to behave normally, you would have to press FN + Alt + F4.
Another question I would have is whether this is on a laptop or a desktop? If it's on a laptop, does Alt + F4 work if you use the laptop's keyboard?
Lastly, are other function key shortcuts working, e.g. Jaws Key + F7 to pull up a list of links on a website or even just Jaws Key + F10 for a list of open applications or Jaws Key + F11 to speak the time?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off. I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close them. If I'm in my email list, I can use Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the open email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4 function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear. Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020 in a few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Rick Mladek
 

Don, the next thing to try is booting in safe-mode and then closing the
programs but you may need sighted assistance to conquer this task...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

When I hit control alt delete, I can get to task manager but not device
manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don,

hit control +alt +delete key (above arrow keys) arrow down to device manager
and hit enter arrow down until you hear programs currently running.
Microsoft Word for example.
If this is what is not being able to close, once you hear the MS Word, hit
tab key until you hear close program and hit enter. It may take a few
attempts hitting the close program button and may also take a few seconds to
close the program. If other programs are needing closed, shift tab back to
the list and arrow up or down until you hear the next program needing
closed. again hit tab until you hear close program and hit enter. Repeat as
needed...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Thanks for your response. I can't use F4 with other functions. Not sure
what task manager is or how to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


Are you able to use alt +4 to kill other applications?

Are you able to kill the problematic apps using the task manager and task
function?

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:06 AM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if
that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British
Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so
started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off.
I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't
know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or
emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close
them. If I'm in my email list, I can use
Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the
open email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt
F4 function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I
start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders
reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020
in a
few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Rick Mladek
 

Try this one...
hit windows key and the letter-x at same time.
arrow down through all until you hear device manager and hit enter
if this allows you in, arrow down until you her the program giving you the
problem. Once highlighted, tab down to close program and hit enter. If more,
shift tab back to the list and arrow down to next program and then tab to
close program and hit enter... repeat as necessary/needed.

The next thing I would advise is if you can do an operating system repair...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

When I hit control alt delete, I can get to task manager but not device
manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don,

hit control +alt +delete key (above arrow keys) arrow down to device manager
and hit enter arrow down until you hear programs currently running.
Microsoft Word for example.
If this is what is not being able to close, once you hear the MS Word, hit
tab key until you hear close program and hit enter. It may take a few
attempts hitting the close program button and may also take a few seconds to
close the program. If other programs are needing closed, shift tab back to
the list and arrow up or down until you hear the next program needing
closed. again hit tab until you hear close program and hit enter. Repeat as
needed...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Thanks for your response. I can't use F4 with other functions. Not sure
what task manager is or how to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


Are you able to use alt +4 to kill other applications?

Are you able to kill the problematic apps using the task manager and task
function?

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:06 AM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if
that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British
Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so
started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off.
I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't
know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or
emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close
them. If I'm in my email list, I can use
Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the
open email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt
F4 function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I
start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders
reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020
in a
few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Abraham Sweiss
 

Does this issue persist when using windows near raider?

If yes, you may want to re-install jaws

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm using a desktop computer. Last night I could use JAWS key plus F12 to get time as usual. Now I've tried that plus other key combinations with the JAWS key and none of them works.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I was asking because some keyboards have a switch or button which locks the function keys and yet others like the Logitech K780 require you to press also the FN key along with any other key combination, e.g. without Logitech Options software installed where you can tell the function keys to behave normally, you would have to press FN + Alt + F4.
Another question I would have is whether this is on a laptop or a desktop? If it's on a laptop, does Alt + F4 work if you use the laptop's keyboard?
Lastly, are other function key shortcuts working, e.g. Jaws Key + F7 to pull up a list of links on a website or even just Jaws Key + F10 for a list of open applications or Jaws Key + F11 to speak the time?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off. I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close them. If I'm in my email list, I can use Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the open email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4 function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear. Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020 in a few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don Walls
 

Yes, I've rebooted.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Have you rebooted the system?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I should havehave noted that when I hit alt F4 what comes up is "upper ribbon."

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

For the task manager, press control+alt+delete and then press alt+t.
You hopefully will land on the processes tab.
Then, you can arrow down through the running applications/processes.
If you know one is misbehaving, press alt+e or tab to end process and press enter, then enter again and it should kill that process.

HTH,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Thanks for your response. I can't use F4 with other functions. Not sure what task manager is or how to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


Are you able to use alt +4 to kill other applications?

Are you able to kill the problematic apps using the task manager and task function?

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:06 AM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if
that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British
Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so
started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off.
I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't
know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or
emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close
them. If I'm in my email list, I can use Alt tab to get out of an
open email, then delete or move it, but the open email is still there.
I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4 function. My only resort
is to shut down the computer. When I start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020
in a few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don Walls
 

Num lock isn't on, but thanks for the suggestion.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Maybe your numlock is on.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I'm using a desktop computer. Last night I could use JAWS key plus F12 to get time as usual. Now I've tried that plus other key combinations with the JAWS key and none of them works.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I was asking because some keyboards have a switch or button which locks the function keys and yet others like the Logitech K780 require you to press also the FN key along with any other key combination, e.g. without Logitech Options software installed where you can tell the function keys to behave normally, you would have to press FN + Alt + F4.
Another question I would have is whether this is on a laptop or a desktop?
If it's on a laptop, does Alt + F4 work if you use the laptop's keyboard?
Lastly, are other function key shortcuts working, e.g. Jaws Key + F7 to pull up a list of links on a website or even just Jaws Key + F10 for a list of open applications or Jaws Key + F11 to speak the time?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off. I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close them. If I'm in my email list, I can use Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the open email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4 function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear. Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020 in a few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don Walls
 

When I hit control alt delete, I can get to task manager but not device manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Don,

hit control +alt +delete key (above arrow keys)
arrow down to device manager and hit enter
arrow down until you hear programs currently running. Microsoft Word for
example.
If this is what is not being able to close, once you hear the MS Word, hit
tab key until you hear close program and hit enter. It may take a few
attempts hitting the close program button and may also take a few seconds to
close the program. If other programs are needing closed, shift tab back to
the list and arrow up or down until you hear the next program needing
closed. again hit tab until you hear close program and hit enter. Repeat as
needed...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Thanks for your response. I can't use F4 with other functions. Not sure
what task manager is or how to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


Are you able to use alt +4 to kill other applications?

Are you able to kill the problematic apps using the task manager and task
function?

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:06 AM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if
that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British Columbia's
speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so started again with a
fresh format and we sent the completed form off. I could not close the
first form but shut down the computer. I don't know if it's related, but
since then I cannot close Word files or emails. I can open and read them
and move them, but I can't close them. If I'm in my email list, I can use
Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the open
email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4
function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I start it
up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020 in a
few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Maybe your numlock is on.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I'm using a desktop computer. Last night I could use JAWS key plus F12 to get time as usual. Now I've tried that plus other key combinations with the JAWS key and none of them works.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I was asking because some keyboards have a switch or button which locks the function keys and yet others like the Logitech K780 require you to press also the FN key along with any other key combination, e.g. without Logitech Options software installed where you can tell the function keys to behave normally, you would have to press FN + Alt + F4.
Another question I would have is whether this is on a laptop or a desktop?
If it's on a laptop, does Alt + F4 work if you use the laptop's keyboard?
Lastly, are other function key shortcuts working, e.g. Jaws Key + F7 to pull up a list of links on a website or even just Jaws Key + F10 for a list of open applications or Jaws Key + F11 to speak the time?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British Columbia's speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so started again with a fresh format and we sent the completed form off. I could not close the first form but shut down the computer. I don't know if it's related, but since then I cannot close Word files or emails. I can open and read them and move them, but I can't close them. If I'm in my email list, I can use Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the open email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4 function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I start it up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear. Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020 in a few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
moderated Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Rick Mladek
 

Don,

hit control +alt +delete key (above arrow keys)
arrow down to device manager and hit enter
arrow down until you hear programs currently running. Microsoft Word for
example.
If this is what is not being able to close, once you hear the MS Word, hit
tab key until you hear close program and hit enter. It may take a few
attempts hitting the close program button and may also take a few seconds to
close the program. If other programs are needing closed, shift tab back to
the list and arrow up or down until you hear the next program needing
closed. again hit tab until you hear close program and hit enter. Repeat as
needed...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

Thanks for your response. I can't use F4 with other functions. Not sure
what task manager is or how to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen


Are you able to use alt +4 to kill other applications?

Are you able to kill the problematic apps using the task manager and task
function?

Thanks,abraham

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:06 AM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

I'm not sure what model of keyboard I have. It has a number pad, if
that's what you're asking.

Don


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt F4 Frozen

What kind of keyboard do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt F4 Frozen

Yesterday a friend helped me fill in the province of British Columbia's
speculation tax form online. He ran into a snag, so started again with a
fresh format and we sent the completed form off. I could not close the
first form but shut down the computer. I don't know if it's related, but
since then I cannot close Word files or emails. I can open and read them
and move them, but I can't close them. If I'm in my email list, I can use
Alt tab to get out of an open email, then delete or move it, but the open
email is still there. I assume that somehow I've frozen the Alt F4
function. My only resort is to shut down the computer. When I start it
up again, emails I've deleted both from In and Deleted folders reappear.
Any thoughts?

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 17, though I plan to purchase JAWS 2020 in a
few weeks.

I'd appreciate any help.

Don
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