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moderated Re: FS activate

Mario
 

not available. maybe you should call FS and ask them why it is showing up if you know you have an SMA left. 727-803-8600.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Blind Gamer [mailto:gamerblind40@...]
To: jfw@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2020, 11:35 AM
Subject: FS activate
Hi
When I went to  FS activate.com <http://activate.com>
For checking my activation remaining for my jaws I found N/A
I want to know that what is this in that table


moderated Re: Email Software Suggestions

Robbie Curtis
 

Hey Everybody,

The issue I'm having with Tb is that it keeps giving me an error message that my password was sent unsuccessfully to the server. It seems to do this when I check email on my Iphone and then come back to the computer later to get what I need. Usually I can reboot the computer and it will let me through to receive emails. However as of today, it's not working.

Now my friend has been having this problem for a while and has consulted with her ISP to see if it was something on their end. She has changed her password many times and the problem persists.

For the most part I am very patient when it comes to technology but Tb is working my nerves right now.

Thanks for your suggestions and if you have anymore I would gladly take them under advisement.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email Software Suggestions

That's a very general statement, making it hard to thelp you decide on something different. What's causing Thunderbird to get on your nerves?
In other words, what features do you not like, or find missing, or don't work as expected?


On 2/18/2020 11:08 PM, Robbie Curtis wrote:
Hey Everybody,


I am currently using Thunderbird as my email software and lately it's
been getting on my nerves. So, which email software do you all
recommend? I am currently using Windows 8.1 and JAWS 2018. Thanks.


moderated Re: Email Software Suggestions

Amir Shah
 

hi I recommend you use Outlook software for your email. I am using outlook on my jaws 2020 and it seem to work fine

On Feb 18, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@...> wrote:

Hey Everybody,


I am currently using Thunderbird as my email software and lately it's been getting on my nerves. So, which email software do you all recommend? I am currently using Windows 8.1 and JAWS 2018. Thanks.


--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"




moderated FS activate

Blind Gamer
 

Hi
When I went to  FS activate.com
For checking my activation remaining for my jaws I found N/A
I want to know that what is this in that table


moderated Re: drag and drop with jaws

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Well great but I do not have a numb pad…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 19, 2020 7:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

In Windows 10 I can easily and efficiently move any item on the taskbar to any position I want using the Jaws drag and drop function.

I go to the icon I want to move and press Jaws Key + Control + NumPad Slash

Then I arrow to where I want to drop the item and repeat the keystroke and the item is moved.

If I arrow right then the item I am on when I drop the first item is pushed to the left and if I drag an item to the left then the item I drop it on is pushed to the right.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

Well, you can only move things on the task bar with drag and drop so how dose one move pined items on this bar if you can not use drag and drop

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Rinehart
Sent: February 18, 2020 19:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

Hi Sieghard, 

 

He is taking a computer class where part of the curriculum apparently involves learning drag and drop. I agree copy or cut and paste is the way to go.  I shared this with A person with DSS.  The point being can he take a loose file and put it in a folder as an example?  A person with vision has several ways to try to accomplish this, but a screen reader less ways, but still effective.  My concern is the cut and paste way will be counted incorrect since. He didn’t drag and drop. 

 

Thanks again for your help and thoughtful response. 

 

Jim

 

On Feb 18, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I still wonder why a blind person would want to use such a visual way to move files from one folder to another when cut and paste works perfectly well and allows you to do 1 file or many all at once.

If drag and drop is the only way to accomplish something as in the example I gave about rearranging the order of icons on the taskbar then it’s OK to use it and it works very well for that, but if there is a keyboard shortcut which is easy and fast then why not use it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

I hate the way MS keeps messing up keyboard commands! I cant get to the app bar with the old method and cant seem to find a way to do it. but if you can get focus on the app bar then right click you can arrange windows in several ways. This makes all windows visible so drag and drop should work but as this is win 10 who knows.

On 2/17/2020 4:57 PM, James Rinehart wrote:

Hi.

 

Trying to learn how to do a drag and drop with JAWS.  I’ve opened a folder with some files in it.  Pressed Control + Insert + Numpad slash and I get that drag and drop and to move the PC cursor, JAWS cursor or touch pad to the location where I want to drop.  When I move to another folder, and press the same keystrokes I get an error JAWS saying the drag and drop isn’t found and it might be covered by another window then the drag and drop action is canceled.

 

Any ideas what I am doing incorrectly?

 

Thanks

 

JIm

 

James Rinehart, MA, ATP, CWDP
Assistive Technology Specialist

4740 Kingsway Drive
Indianapolis, IN 46205

P 317.466.1000 x2527 • F 317.466.2000
jrinehart@...

eastersealscrossroads.org


 

     


        

 


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


moderated Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

In Windows 10 I can easily and efficiently move any item on the taskbar to any position I want using the Jaws drag and drop function.

I go to the icon I want to move and press Jaws Key + Control + NumPad Slash

Then I arrow to where I want to drop the item and repeat the keystroke and the item is moved.

If I arrow right then the item I am on when I drop the first item is pushed to the left and if I drag an item to the left then the item I drop it on is pushed to the right.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

Well, you can only move things on the task bar with drag and drop so how dose one move pined items on this bar if you can not use drag and drop

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Rinehart
Sent: February 18, 2020 19:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

Hi Sieghard, 

 

He is taking a computer class where part of the curriculum apparently involves learning drag and drop. I agree copy or cut and paste is the way to go.  I shared this with A person with DSS.  The point being can he take a loose file and put it in a folder as an example?  A person with vision has several ways to try to accomplish this, but a screen reader less ways, but still effective.  My concern is the cut and paste way will be counted incorrect since. He didn’t drag and drop. 

 

Thanks again for your help and thoughtful response. 

 

Jim



On Feb 18, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I still wonder why a blind person would want to use such a visual way to move files from one folder to another when cut and paste works perfectly well and allows you to do 1 file or many all at once.

If drag and drop is the only way to accomplish something as in the example I gave about rearranging the order of icons on the taskbar then it’s OK to use it and it works very well for that, but if there is a keyboard shortcut which is easy and fast then why not use it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

I hate the way MS keeps messing up keyboard commands! I cant get to the app bar with the old method and cant seem to find a way to do it. but if you can get focus on the app bar then right click you can arrange windows in several ways. This makes all windows visible so drag and drop should work but as this is win 10 who knows.

On 2/17/2020 4:57 PM, James Rinehart wrote:

Hi.

 

Trying to learn how to do a drag and drop with JAWS.  I’ve opened a folder with some files in it.  Pressed Control + Insert + Numpad slash and I get that drag and drop and to move the PC cursor, JAWS cursor or touch pad to the location where I want to drop.  When I move to another folder, and press the same keystrokes I get an error JAWS saying the drag and drop isn’t found and it might be covered by another window then the drag and drop action is canceled.

 

Any ideas what I am doing incorrectly?

 

Thanks

 

JIm

 

James Rinehart, MA, ATP, CWDP
Assistive Technology Specialist

4740 Kingsway Drive
Indianapolis, IN 46205

P 317.466.1000 x2527 • F 317.466.2000
jrinehart@...

eastersealscrossroads.org



 

     


        

 


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


moderated Re: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Several sighted people in my office refuse to use Outlook on the desktop claining that it is signifcantly slower than the Web based version. Some of this, is when they are doing searches for converstions where parts of the conversation have been archived. So perhaps it has as much to do with the Exchange / Outlook interface as it does with the fact that a screen reader is running.


moderated FS Blog New post, Don’t Miss Our Introduction to Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

Mike B
 

Don’t Miss Our Introduction to Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS
by
Elizabeth Whitaker
 
Do you use Microsoft Teams with JAWS? Are you currently
using Office 365 at your work or school? Join us on Thursday, February 20 at
noon Eastern for our webinar, An Introduction to Microsoft Teams and JAWS.
 
What Is Teams?
 
Microsoft Teams is a chat-based application that creates a
workspace for Office 365 users. It combines workplace chatting capabilities
with video meetings, file storage, and application integration to provide a
platform for innovation and collaboration.
 
Microsoft Teams evolved from Skype for Business. Team members
can join conversations and meetings through a dedicated URL provided by a team
owner or administrator.
 
Teams for Education enables administrators and teachers to
establish teams used for classes in a learning environment. This offers greater
opportunities for collaboration on a global level.
 
What You’ll Learn
 
Whether your employer or school already uses Teams or has
plans to in the future, you’ll benefit from this introductory training. Topics
include:
 
list of 5 items
• Conversations and chatting
• Posting and replying to messages
• Scheduling and joining a meeting
• Navigating channel tabs
• Navigating settings and notifications
list end
 
We’ll also introduce you to helpful terminology and provide
useful keyboard commands for performing specific tasks.
Register now
and don’t miss this opportunity to gain a greater understanding of Teams. Can’t
make it to the training? All our webinars are made available for streaming or
download on our
Webinars On Demand page.
 
Elizabeth Whitaker
 | February 18, 2020 at 7:01 pm | Tags:
#Chatwith Teams,
#FreedomScientific,
#MicrosoftTeams,
#TeamsandJAWS
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moderated Re: Email Software Suggestions

Steve Matzura
 

That's a very general statement, making it hard to thelp you decide on something different. What's causing Thunderbird to get on your nerves? In other words, what features do you not like, or find missing, or don't work as expected?

On 2/18/2020 11:08 PM, Robbie Curtis wrote:
Hey Everybody,


I am currently using Thunderbird as my email software and lately it's been getting on my nerves. So, which email software do you all recommend? I am currently using Windows 8.1 and JAWS 2018. Thanks.


moderated Re: KeePass Overview for managing passwords

Gmail Jonas
 

Tutorial on how to use Keepass!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqS9MVEN4QY

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: KeePass Overview for managing passwords

is the one for Windows okay or are there some short comings to be aware of? does it work with JAWS, NVDA and/or Narrator?


-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020, 2:42 AM
Subject: KeePass Overview for managing passwords
Just to let people know, it no longer works on the mac and its various
IOS implementations are not very good, its all done by volunteers and
so the implementations vary a lot in quality depending on who is doing
them. It seems not to work with Chrome, or last time I looked.


On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:46:35 -0500,
Judy Redlich wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
Are use the key pass program. I like it too. Thank you for sending the
overview. I started using it about a year ago.
On Feb 15, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Alan Lemly <@walemly> wrote:


I promised this overview of the KeePass program about a month ago and I
apologize for the delay in completing it. The full overview with
navigable headings follows my signature.

Alan Lemly

I'm writing an overview of how to use the basic features of the KeePass
program to manage your passwords with your computer. I'm running Windows
7 with Fusion 2019 and using KeePass version 2.44, the most recent
downloadable version, for purposes of this discussion. I will include
navigable headings where appropriate and since I'm sending this post in
html format, these headings should be maintained. This document was
completed on February 15, 2020.
Introduction
KeePass is an open source program available for free for maintaining a
user's passwords. This discussion will be about running KeePass on a
Windows computer but my understanding is that it will also run on Linux
and Mac OS X. Note the spelling of the program which appears to be a
combination of the words keep and an abbreviation of password and don't
make the mistake I did thinking it's spelled like a key to unlock
something. KeePass is basically a small database management system where
the underlying records are your passwords. A database is really just a
table or spreadsheet of information where each row represents a record
and each column represents a field of data for that record. For password
records, the main fields in KeePass are Title, User Name, and Password
where Title is the item with the password such as NLS BARD account. Be
aware that KeePass has two main versions and various build iterations of
each, version 1.x and version 2.x. I recommend you use version 2.x as I
believe it contains more accessibility and this discussion will be about it.
KeePass Website
The main KeePass website can be found here:

https://keepass.info/

The site contains a lot of helpful information and I'd recommend you
explore it to gather what you need. I'd suggest you start by pressing
Insert + F7 to generate a list of links and arrow through them to find
your interests most quickly. You can go to the Downloads link from this
list or use the following link to download the KeePass program:

https://keepass.info/download.html

KeePass has both fully installable and portable versions. As you arrow
through the available downloads, you can pick whether you want the
installer which will be an exe file or the Portable version which will
be a zip file. As you know, Portable versions don't add anything to your
registry and can be copied to a flash drive for portability after being
unzipped.
Running KeePass the first time
I installed the fully installable version of KeePass a few years back
when I started using it and I have no intention of uninstalling it for
purposes of this overview. Be aware of that so if you experience
something different from my explanation, the reason might relate to
this. I will attempt to mirror a new installation by creating a new
KeePass database file that will hopefully yield similar results to
those who are installing it for the first time.

When I pressed Ctrl + n to create an new KeePass database file, I was
prompted to save it with the name Database.kdbx in the same folder of my
existing KeePass database. First time users of the program will probably
get different results but I'd recommend that if you're a Dropbox user,
that you save your KeePass database kdbx file in your Dropbox folder.
This will make syncing it with a mobile device discussed later much
easier. You should make note of this file name in order to make it
easier to find in the future. After providing the database filename and
location, you are in a dialog box to create your composite master key
which is your master password to access your KeePass database. Choose a
password that isn't easily cracked but that you can easily remember.
This will be the only password you have to remember going forward
because all the others will be housed in KeePass to recall as needed.
Type in your master password and tab once where you'll land on a
checkbox that is checked to hide the password value using asterisks.
Tab again to reenter your master password. Tab once which takes you to a
Show expert options checkbox which you should leave unchecked. Tab again
which takes you to a Help button which you can tab past to the ok button
which you should execute. You will be taken to a create new password
database dialog box which is multi tabbed with tabs for General,
Security, Compression, Recycle Bin, and Advanced. Each of these tabs
contain settings for the password database but accept for the General
tab discussed below, the defaults are fine and can be ignored. You will
be located on the General tab when you first enter this dialog in the
database name text box. I would recommend leaving this text box blank
and referring to your KeePass database by its filename previously
assigned. Tab again and you'll be taken to a database description text
box that you can also leave blank. In my opinion, these last two items
are for those who have more than one KeePass database file which I
strongly discourage for purposes of this discussion. Tab again and
you'll move to the default user name for new entries text box. This will
be the assigned user name whenever you create a new entry in your
KeePass database and I'd suggest typing your email address here. My
experience has been that an email address is most commonly the user name
for an account and this saves a step when creating a new password entry.
Tab again and you'll move to the custom database color checkbox which
you can leave unchecked. Tab until you hear ok and press enter. You are
then prompted if you'd like to print a KeePass emergency sheet which
will contain all the information needed to open your database. If
desired, this should be printed and saved in a safe place or you can
skip this step.
Adding entries to your new database
Adding a group
KeePass uses groups to categorize entries into its passwords database.
Think of groups like folders in Outlook or like subfolders on a Windows
computer for purposes of providing an organization structure to your
files. Use of KeePass groups will make it much easier to access your
passwords when you have hundreds of entries as I do. Also, the program
developer has said putting all entries in one group will cause the
program to work less efficiently when entries become numerous. The
default groups KeePass contains when first launched are General,
Windows, Network, Internet, Email, and Homebanking. These are shown on
the left side of the KeePass screen indented below the database name
to which they belong. In this discussion, remember that I named my
KeePass kdbx file Database so the default groups just listed are shown
below Database in my program. You can arrow up and down through these
groups to pick the appropriate one to house your new password entry. If
you do not want to use any of the default groups, arrow up to your
database name, press shift + F10 to open a context menu, arrow down to
Add group, and press enter. You will be placed in an add group dialog
where you can type the group name desired, tab to pick an icon which you
can ignore, tab to an expires checkbox which I recommend you leave
unchecked, and tab until you hear ok and press enter. I suggest you
leave the expires checkbox and date unchecked because I don't think you
want your password groups to expire. Focus will be on the group you just
created. You can have subgroups below groups so make sure focus is on
the database name when creating a new group so you won't end up with
numerous group levels unless that is what you prefer. My preference is
to have only one level of groups so I'm clear where I am when arrowing
up and down a sorted list. Be aware that groups are not automatically
sorted. For this discussion, I added a new group named Finance which
was placed as the last group in the group even though it's not the last
alphabetically. To change the order of your groups, tab or shift + tab
until you hear tree view and arrow up until focus is on your database
name, Database in this example. Press shift + F10 to open the context
menu, arrow down to Rearrange submenu and right arrow to open the
submenu and down arrow to Sort direct subgroups and press enter. All the
subgroups in your database will now be sorted alphabetically.
Adding a new password
You can add an new password entry to your KeePass database by pressing
ctrl + i. Remember, whichever group has focus when you press this hotkey
will contain the new entry. You can arrow up and down your groups to
ensure the desired one has focus. This is important because KeePass does
not provide a group entry field when adding a new record since it's
automatically assigned based on the group with focus. For this example,
I'm creating a new password in my Finance group. When pressing ctrl + I,
a multi-tabbed dialog opens with the Entry tab containing focus and the
Title text box containing the cursor. Type the title best suited for you
to find this entry later. For this example, I'm using Bank online
account. Tab once and you're prompted to pick an icon which you can
ignore, tab again and you'll be in the user name text box which should
already be populated with your email address. Use that email address if
appropriate or type in a new user name and tab. A default password will
be shown as asterisks and highlighted. You should type in the password
you desire for this entry. Tab once where you'll land on a hide field
using asterisks checkbox which is checked and which you can tab past.
You will then be on the repeat password text box where the original
default asterisked password is highlighted and must be retyped with your
new password which matches the one previously entered. Tab once and
you'll be on a generate a password button which you can use if you don't
wish to use your own password. If you execute this generate a password
button which I don't recommend, a context menu of choices will open that
you can arrow through to select the desired option. Since I don't
recommend using this, I'm not covering those options. Tab again and
you'll be in a URL text box where you can enter the web URL associated
with this account if desired. Tab again and you'll be in a Notes text
box where you can store any notes related to this entry. Tab again and
you'll be on an Expires checkbox which I don't recommend using. If you
do check it, tab again and enter the desired date of expiration. Tab
again and you'll be on a button to select one of the standard expire
times. Tab again to ok and press enter to complete the entry. You will
be on a two vertical pane screen not unlike a Windows Explorer screen
where folders are listed on the left side and the files they contain are
listed on the right side. In this case, your KeePass groups are listed
on the left and the entries in the group with focus is listed on the
right. The entry you just created contains focus. If you shift tab,
Fusion announces tree view and moves focus to the password's host group,
Finance in this example, and the group name will be spoken. Tab back and
list view will be spoken and the name of the entry with focus with some
of its details will be spoken. Pressing enter while n the passwords list
view will open an edit box for the entry with focus. The Entry tab
previously discussed will contain focus. While the Entry tab contains
most of what you need to manage password entries, i.e., titles, user
names, and passwords, I'm going to discuss one other tab in this
multi-tabbed entry edit dialog. Press ctrl + tab to move to the
Advanced tab. When you tab once, you'll be placed in a string fields
list. String fields are great for creating your own custom fields. For
example, in my Bank online account entry, I want to track the account's
fed routing number and the account number so I will set up two custom
string fields to do so. Tab once out of string fields list box and
you'll be on an add button where you press enter. You will land in a
name text box where edit is spoken. Type the name for this custom field
and for my example, I'll type FedRoute. If you've previously set up
string fields for this database, a list of previous field names will be
presented when you start typing characters. This doesn't apply here so
I'll tab once after entering the name and be placed in the value text
box. A fed routing code is a 9-digit number so I'll type in 123456789
for purposes of this example. Tab once where you'll land on an enable in
memory protection checkbox which you can ignore. Tab again to the ok
button and press enter. Focus should again be on the Add button which I
will execute in order to add another custom string field. I'm back in
the Name text box for this custom string field where I'll type AcctNum.
I'll tab once to the value text box and type 456789. I'll tab to the ok
button and press enter to complete the addition of this second custom
string field and its value. I'll then tab to the ok button and press
enter to complete the entry of this custom string field. Focus moves to
a File attachments list view which is blank because I have none. Tab
once to move to an Attach button if you'd like to attach a file to this
entry. Tab again to the Ok button and press enter to complete the edit
of this password entry. Focus returns to the list view with the last
edited entry containing focus.
Exiting the database
More than one way exists to exit your KeePass database. I like to leave
mine running to make access easier and I'll discuss the settings to
control this later. For now, press alt + spacebar and arrow down to
minimize and press enter. You will be placed on an option to save
database changes before locking the workspace since we've just modified
our database. Press enter to save it. KeePass remembers which group
contained focus when the database was last saved and that group will
have focus the next time you open KeePass.
KeePass options
KeePass has a number of option settings that can be accessed from the
Tools, Options menu. I mainly use the default settings but will describe
a couple of suggested settings that I use. With KeePass open, press the
alt key to activate the topline menu and right arrow to Tools. When
Tools is spoken, down arrow once to open the Tools submenu and up arrow
once to land on Options and press enter. A multi-tabbed Options dialog
will open with tabs for Security, Policy, Interface, Integration, and
Advanced. Security has focus and I'm going to turn off one of its
default settings. Tab once and Lock workspace after KeePass inactivity
will be spoken which means you are in the list of Security options which
you can down arrow through. I then down arrow to the Use 'Clipboard
Viewer Ignore' clipboard format checkbox which I make sure is unchecked.
I'm the only person using my computer and I use a clipboard manager
program named Ditto which allows me to browse previous items copied to
my clipboard. I find this especially helpful for browsing items copied
from my KeePass database but if this option is left checked, KeePass
won't allow Ditto to do this. You may be happy with the default setting
not to allow this which is a more secure setting. Next, press ctrl + tab
to move to the Integration tab. Tab once and you'll be in a system wide
hotkeys section in the global auto-type text box which I don't use. Tab
again and you're on the Global auto-type - password only text box which
I have set to none. Tab again and you're on the Auto-type selected
entry which I have set to none. Tab once more and you're in the Show
KeePass window hotkey box. I have this set to ctrl + alt + shift + k so
that when I press this combination, a KeePass window will open prompting
me for my master password. KeePass always remembers the last kdbx file
on exiting the program. While this hotkey text box has focus, press the
key combination you want to set here. Continue to tab until you hear Run
KeePass at Windows startup checkbox and make sure it is checked. I think
it is a good idea to have KeePass running at all times to make accessing
your stored passwords easier when using your computer. Tab until you
hear ok and press enter to complete setting your options.
Opening KeePass
How you open KeePass could vary depending on your option settings. I
have KeePass set to run automatically at Windows startup so I'm
presented with a KeePass login window at system start where I provide my
password. I have my options set to lock KeePass whenever I minimize it
so that the master password is required in order to review the passwords
in its database. I can open a new KeePass window by pressing ctrl + alt
+ shift + k which I described earlier in the options section. To open
KeePass, you might need to execute a desktop icon on your system
depending on how you installed KeePass and your option settings.

When you open KeePass, you should be asked for your master password.
After that is typed and accepted, your database will open and focus will
be in a search box where you can type the title keyword to locate an
existing entry. After typing the search term and pressing enter, the
list of entries matching will be presented in the list view. You can tab
once to access the tree view of groups and tab again to reach the list
view of entries which match. You can then arrow up and down the list
until you find the one you want.
Accessing the passwords in the list view
When focus is on the password entry you want, you can press ctrl + c to
copy its password to the clipboard. You can easily paste it to another
computer program or website by pressing ctrl + v when on a text box
seeking a password. Also, when focus is on an entry in the KeePass list
view, you can press ctrl + b to copy that entry's user name to the
clipboard. Finally, you can press shift + F10 on the entry with focus
and a context menu will open which you can arrow up and down through to
select an item of choice. If you set up custom string fields for this
entry, one of the context menu choices is the copy field submenu and
when you right arrow on it, you will be provided a list of the custom
string fields set up and pressing enter on the custom field name will
copy its value to the clipboard. This is very handy especially if you
use a clipboard manager such as Ditto that allows you to peruse your
clipboard entries for selection and pasting.
KeePass on your mobile device
With the explosion of mobile devices for accessing content, having
access to your KeePass database on such devices is critical. This
discussion will focus on iOS since I use an iPhone but the main issue
for both iOS and Android is that you will have to know the name of your
KeePass kdbx file on your computer and make it available to your mobile
device whether you are running iOS or Android. This is why I recommended
earlier that you save your KeePass kdbx file in a Dropbox folder on your
computer which makes it much easier to share with a mobile device.
iOS
I have used two different iOS apps for accessing my KeePass database on
my iPhone. The first was Mini KeePass which unfortunately is no longer
available and the second is KeePass Touch which is free with ads or is
99 cents without ads. KeePass Touch is much better in my opinion because
it can be synced with the same kdbx database used by your computer using
Dropbox. With KeePass Touch, when you sign into the app after turning on
Touch ID, you have access to all your passwords without providing the
master password manually. When you navigate to your password field, you
can double tap on the screen to copy it to the clipboard for easy
pasting to another app. KeePass Touch also has a search feature at the
top of its main screen for locating specific entries by keyword. iOS
has other apps that work with KeePass databases but I'm unfamiliar with
their accessibility or cost. I suggest you search the App Store for
KeePass and see what comes up if KeePass Touch doesn't interest you.
Android
I have only very limited experience with Android but I did install the
KeePass Droid app which was free on a Moto X4 phone. I did nothing more
than install the app so can't offer any instructions on its use.
Dropbox download link for this overview
For those wishing to download this overview to your device in html
format, you can use the following Dropbox link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/idmnog8hql7qyev/KeePass%20Overview.htm?dl=1

Alan Lemly





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moderated Re: Jaws silence when copying, pasting, etc.

Gerald Levy
 


This probblem has existed for years, and apparently, Vispero has never figured out a way to fix it.  Instead of using the copy, cut and paste shortcut keys, select the appropriate option from the context menu to be sure it has been activated.


Gerald



On 2/18/2020 10:59 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
What is going on with Jaws not saying: paste, copy, selected, etc.?
Sometimes unloading Jaws and restarting it corrects the problem but at other times it doesn’t.  Tom


moderated Re: drag and drop with jaws

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Well, you can only move things on the task bar with drag and drop so how dose one move pined items on this bar if you can not use drag and drop

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Rinehart
Sent: February 18, 2020 19:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

Hi Sieghard, 

 

He is taking a computer class where part of the curriculum apparently involves learning drag and drop. I agree copy or cut and paste is the way to go.  I shared this with A person with DSS.  The point being can he take a loose file and put it in a folder as an example?  A person with vision has several ways to try to accomplish this, but a screen reader less ways, but still effective.  My concern is the cut and paste way will be counted incorrect since. He didn’t drag and drop. 

 

Thanks again for your help and thoughtful response. 

 

Jim



On Feb 18, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I still wonder why a blind person would want to use such a visual way to move files from one folder to another when cut and paste works perfectly well and allows you to do 1 file or many all at once.

If drag and drop is the only way to accomplish something as in the example I gave about rearranging the order of icons on the taskbar then it’s OK to use it and it works very well for that, but if there is a keyboard shortcut which is easy and fast then why not use it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

I hate the way MS keeps messing up keyboard commands! I cant get to the app bar with the old method and cant seem to find a way to do it. but if you can get focus on the app bar then right click you can arrange windows in several ways. This makes all windows visible so drag and drop should work but as this is win 10 who knows.

On 2/17/2020 4:57 PM, James Rinehart wrote:

Hi.

 

Trying to learn how to do a drag and drop with JAWS.  I’ve opened a folder with some files in it.  Pressed Control + Insert + Numpad slash and I get that drag and drop and to move the PC cursor, JAWS cursor or touch pad to the location where I want to drop.  When I move to another folder, and press the same keystrokes I get an error JAWS saying the drag and drop isn’t found and it might be covered by another window then the drag and drop action is canceled.

 

Any ideas what I am doing incorrectly?

 

Thanks

 

JIm

 

James Rinehart, MA, ATP, CWDP
Assistive Technology Specialist

4740 Kingsway Drive
Indianapolis, IN 46205

P 317.466.1000 x2527 • F 317.466.2000
jrinehart@...

eastersealscrossroads.org



 

     


        

 


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


moderated Re: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

Steve Nutt
 

Bear in mind though that Outlook 2019 is older than Outlook 365.  2019 tends to “lag”? with updates as well.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: 28 January 2020 01:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

 

Hi, The preview option is not the issue. I have OUtlook 2019 with Jaws 2020 with all updates current and Windows 10. Definitely lags

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 7:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

 

Have you tried turning off the preview pane in Outlook?

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of "Norma A. Boge" <naboge@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 27, 2020 at 16:52
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

 

Hi group,

 

As I await a response from Vispero support, I’m wondering if anyone is experiencing the following:

 

I have noticed that the lag while using Outlook 365 with Jaws 2020 is even worse than with Jaws 2019. Arrowing through a message list, Jaws simply stops speaking. I can read the title of the window but that’s it. Then after 3-4 seconds I am able to proceed normally through the list. And it takes about 5 seconds before I can type a reply to a message.

A few months ago I asked about this lag while in a Outlook webinar with the Microsoft accessibility group. They acknowledged the problem but that was about all they said. I can hardly wait to see what Vispero’s take is.

 

Helpful feedback welcome.

Norma


moderated activating filters in google sheets

William Windels
 

Hello,

 

I have to use google sheets on my workplace with jaws 19.

When I am on a cel , jaws speaks “contains dropdown-menu for filter).

 

In the hotkeys of google sheets, I find alt+ctrl+r to activate a dropdown for that filter.

However, this don’t work with google chrome or mozilla firefox.

I have also tried with inser+3 (pass key trough with jaws) but this don’t work also.

 

Any idea’s how I can activate the filter options?

 

Kind regards,

William Windels

William Windels

 

Incident Manager SWF

02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdagnamiddag)

 


moderated Re: Email Software Suggestions

Glenn / Lenny
 

No scripts needed.
You might be thinking of outlook express classic as it's called, nothing to do with this.
OE Classic was not remastered from the original, it's just a program made to look like OE.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Email Software Suggestions


thought you needed jaws scripts to be able to use that?

has this changed?


On 2/18/2020 9:25 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I suggest a remastered Outlook Express that works on windows 7, 8, & 10.
It's 20 dollars donation, and it works well.
The seller is named Rafail, and if I find his web site, I'll post it, I purchased it and I like it.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:08 PM
Subject: Email Software Suggestions


Hey Everybody,


I am currently using Thunderbird as my email software and lately it's been getting on my nerves. So, which email software do you all recommend? I am currently using Windows 8.1 and JAWS 2018. Thanks.


--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"





moderated Re: Email Software Suggestions

 

thought you needed jaws scripts to be able to use that?

has this changed?

On 2/18/2020 9:25 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I suggest a remastered Outlook Express that works on windows 7, 8, & 10.
It's 20 dollars donation, and it works well.
The seller is named Rafail, and if I find his web site, I'll post it, I purchased it and I like it.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:08 PM
Subject: Email Software Suggestions


Hey Everybody,


I am currently using Thunderbird as my email software and lately it's been getting on my nerves. So, which email software do you all recommend? I am currently using Windows 8.1 and JAWS 2018. Thanks.


--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"





moderated Re: drag and drop with jaws

James Rinehart
 

Hi Sieghard, 

He is taking a computer class where part of the curriculum apparently involves learning drag and drop. I agree copy or cut and paste is the way to go.  I shared this with A person with DSS.  The point being can he take a loose file and put it in a folder as an example?  A person with vision has several ways to try to accomplish this, but a screen reader less ways, but still effective.  My concern is the cut and paste way will be counted incorrect since. He didn’t drag and drop. 

Thanks again for your help and thoughtful response. 

Jim


On Feb 18, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I still wonder why a blind person would want to use such a visual way to move files from one folder to another when cut and paste works perfectly well and allows you to do 1 file or many all at once.

If drag and drop is the only way to accomplish something as in the example I gave about rearranging the order of icons on the taskbar then it’s OK to use it and it works very well for that, but if there is a keyboard shortcut which is easy and fast then why not use it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: drag and drop with jaws

 

I hate the way MS keeps messing up keyboard commands! I cant get to the app bar with the old method and cant seem to find a way to do it. but if you can get focus on the app bar then right click you can arrange windows in several ways. This makes all windows visible so drag and drop should work but as this is win 10 who knows.

On 2/17/2020 4:57 PM, James Rinehart wrote:

Hi.

 

Trying to learn how to do a drag and drop with JAWS.  I’ve opened a folder with some files in it.  Pressed Control + Insert + Numpad slash and I get that drag and drop and to move the PC cursor, JAWS cursor or touch pad to the location where I want to drop.  When I move to another folder, and press the same keystrokes I get an error JAWS saying the drag and drop isn’t found and it might be covered by another window then the drag and drop action is canceled.

 

Any ideas what I am doing incorrectly?

 

Thanks

 

JIm

 

James Rinehart, MA, ATP, CWDP
Assistive Technology Specialist

4740 Kingsway Drive
Indianapolis, IN 46205

P 317.466.1000 x2527 • F 317.466.2000
jrinehart@...

eastersealscrossroads.org


 

     


        

 


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


moderated Re: Email Software Suggestions

Glenn / Lenny
 

Sieghard and All,
The security issue is a minor issue, as I think the majority of us know enough to not open attachments that we are not sure of the origin, and the slightly outdated security should still catch 99% of what might be a threat.
On the iMap, yes, it does do iMap as well as POP.
On the Windows 10, I don't know about that, and I recommended it since the request was for something to use in windows 8.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Email Software Suggestions


Glen may like this, but after taking a look at this website and reading the Windows 10 warning I would definitely not recommend using this.
First of all, nobody knows if this has been updated to address all the many security issues which have come up since the Windows XP days. There just are things which are left behind and OE is one of them.
Secondly, does this even support IMAP or Exchange/Outlook.com accounts or would you be forced to use POP3? For anybody with 2 devices that would be pretty bad.
Lastly, I certainly don't want to reinstall this twice a year after every major Windows 10 update which is what the warning is about, this is from the website:

Information about using OE with Windows 10 or updating to Windows 10
Windows 10 users must know that automatic updates on Windows 10 removes Outlook Express.
Every time a Windows 10 pc performs Major Updates, Outlook Express will be removed and need to be re-installed.
More info about software being removed on Win 10 updates:
http://betanews.com/2015/11/24/windows-1...ermission/
Emails are not being removed as far as we know until today, but Outlook Express must be reinstalled and emails must be re-imported.
We have created the automatic restore tool that restores Outlook Express (and emails, accounts e.t.c) back.
For users that have lost OE from win 10 updates, this tool (restores OE back) can be used:
https://runasxp.com/Thread-Windows-10-up...store-tool
The tool will restore OE back but users must backup their emails before windows 10 major upgrade, for piece of mind.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email Software Suggestions

Here's the download link for the Outlook Express program:
https://runasxp.com/Topic-Outlook-Express-for-Windows-7-and-Windows-10-Download
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Email Software Suggestions


I suggest a remastered Outlook Express that works on windows 7, 8, & 10.
It's 20 dollars donation, and it works well.
The seller is named Rafail, and if I find his web site, I'll post it, I
purchased it and I like it.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:08 PM
Subject: Email Software Suggestions


Hey Everybody,


I am currently using Thunderbird as my email software and lately it's
been getting on my nerves. So, which email software do you all recommend?
I am currently using Windows 8.1 and JAWS 2018. Thanks.


--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"











moderated Re: Jaws silence when copying, pasting, etc.

Adrian Spratt
 

Virtual cursor copying is my default.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 12:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws silence when copying, pasting, etc.

 

You can probably fix this not copying on certain websites by going into Quick Settings when the website is open and type “copy” into the search field, then tab once and you get this:

Select and copy full content using on-screen highlight

Press the spacebar and change it to:

Select and copy from virtual cursor

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws silence when copying, pasting, etc.

 

I sometimes experience this problem as well with JAWS 2020 (latest  release), and the workaround is the same as yours: unloading and reloading JAWS. However, I’ve found on one website, the Guardian newspaper and now the Washington Post, that despite selecting text, I can’t get the copying function to work at all in Chrome, my default browser. My workaround there has been to reopen the website in IE, where control-c works. Today, however, I experimented by closing JAWS 2020 and opening JAWS 2018. This time, I could copy material from the Guardian website. This is a JAWS 2020, and possibly JAWS 2019, problem.

 

So there are two problems that may or may not be related. Sometimes JAWS gets tired and won’t copy text until you unload and reload it. Separately, perhaps, JAWS won’t allow copying on at least some webpages on two websites.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:59 PM
To: Jaws users list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws silence when copying, pasting, etc.

 

What is going on with Jaws not saying: paste, copy, selected, etc.?

Sometimes unloading Jaws and restarting it corrects the problem but at other times it doesn’t.  Tom


moderated Re: Email Software Suggestions

 

Glen may like this, but after taking a look at this website and reading the Windows 10 warning I would definitely not recommend using this.
First of all, nobody knows if this has been updated to address all the many security issues which have come up since the Windows XP days. There just are things which are left behind and OE is one of them.
Secondly, does this even support IMAP or Exchange/Outlook.com accounts or would you be forced to use POP3? For anybody with 2 devices that would be pretty bad.
Lastly, I certainly don't want to reinstall this twice a year after every major Windows 10 update which is what the warning is about, this is from the website:

Information about using OE with Windows 10 or updating to Windows 10
Windows 10 users must know that automatic updates on Windows 10 removes Outlook Express.
Every time a Windows 10 pc performs Major Updates, Outlook Express will be removed and need to be re-installed.
More info about software being removed on Win 10 updates:
http://betanews.com/2015/11/24/windows-1...ermission/
Emails are not being removed as far as we know until today, but Outlook Express must be reinstalled and emails must be re-imported.
We have created the automatic restore tool that restores Outlook Express (and emails, accounts e.t.c) back.
For users that have lost OE from win 10 updates, this tool (restores OE back) can be used:
https://runasxp.com/Thread-Windows-10-up...store-tool
The tool will restore OE back but users must backup their emails before windows 10 major upgrade, for piece of mind.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email Software Suggestions

Here's the download link for the Outlook Express program:
https://runasxp.com/Topic-Outlook-Express-for-Windows-7-and-Windows-10-Download
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Email Software Suggestions


I suggest a remastered Outlook Express that works on windows 7, 8, & 10.
It's 20 dollars donation, and it works well.
The seller is named Rafail, and if I find his web site, I'll post it, I
purchased it and I like it.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:08 PM
Subject: Email Software Suggestions


Hey Everybody,


I am currently using Thunderbird as my email software and lately it's
been getting on my nerves. So, which email software do you all recommend?
I am currently using Windows 8.1 and JAWS 2018. Thanks.


--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"