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Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>

#75583

I've noticed that JAWS doesn;'t speak the form fields in edit boxes on this
sit.

Pastor Gil
https://www.rtcsnv.com/ways-to-travel/paratransit-accessibility/order-paratr
ansit-passes-online/#22pass
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter
via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

Hs anybody noticed that it is sometimes difficult to read the text in an
edit box. For example, after putting something into the box JAWS will not
read it. I also notice when copying from an e-mail in Outlook, that it will
not paste the contents to the edit box. I have had to manually type the
information into the edit box. It is more noticeable in the password edit
box. 

Any ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Wayland
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

I am having the same problem on various sites.  It is difficult to know when
the edit box is truly ready to except characters.
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Password and user names on some site give me a hard time. I just went to
WellsFargo and it took several times tabbing in and out of forms mode to get
logged in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@roadrunner.com>
To: "JAWS User's Group Mailing List" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:25 PM
Subject: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role 
playing game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode 
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on 
before typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the 
game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page 
as well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards 
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed 
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham 
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards 
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed 
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham 
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

Rick Mladek

#75582

Yes again to this problem with JAWS and most browsers used and/or websites
visited...

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter
via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

Hs anybody noticed that it is sometimes difficult to read the text in an
edit box. For example, after putting something into the box JAWS will not
read it. I also notice when copying from an e-mail in Outlook, that it will
not paste the contents to the edit box. I have had to manually type the
information into the edit box. It is more noticeable in the password edit
box. 

Any ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Wayland
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

I am having the same problem on various sites.  It is difficult to know when
the edit box is truly ready to except characters.
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Password and user names on some site give me a hard time. I just went to
WellsFargo and it took several times tabbing in and out of forms mode to get
logged in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@roadrunner.com>
To: "JAWS User's Group Mailing List" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:25 PM
Subject: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role 
playing game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode 
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on 
before typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the 
game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page 
as well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards 
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed 
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham 
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards 
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed 
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham 
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

Marty Hutchings

#75581

I have been having a forms mode problem with JAWS 19 and Facebook.  I do not hear the sound when going into an edit field, but when I Tab, I hear the sound that said that I have gone out of forms mode and I can't get back into the field to read what I wrote.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

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-----Original Message----- 
From:  clarence carter via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 7:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

Hs anybody noticed that it is sometimes difficult to read the text in an
edit box. For example, after putting something into the box JAWS will not
read it. I also notice when copying from an e-mail in Outlook, that it will
not paste the contents to the edit box. I have had to manually type the
information into the edit box. It is more noticeable in the password edit
box.

Any ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Wayland
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

I am having the same problem on various sites.  It is difficult to know when
the edit box is truly ready to except characters.
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Password and user names on some site give me a hard time. I just went to
WellsFargo and it took several times tabbing in and out of forms mode to get
logged in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@roadrunner.com>
To: "JAWS User's Group Mailing List" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:25 PM
Subject: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role
playing game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on
before typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the
game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page
as well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

clarence carter

#75580

Hs anybody noticed that it is sometimes difficult to read the text in an
edit box. For example, after putting something into the box JAWS will not
read it. I also notice when copying from an e-mail in Outlook, that it will
not paste the contents to the edit box. I have had to manually type the
information into the edit box. It is more noticeable in the password edit
box. 

Any ideas?

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Wayland
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

I am having the same problem on various sites.  It is difficult to know when
the edit box is truly ready to except characters.
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Password and user names on some site give me a hard time. I just went to
WellsFargo and it took several times tabbing in and out of forms mode to get
logged in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@roadrunner.com>
To: "JAWS User's Group Mailing List" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:25 PM
Subject: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role 
playing game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode 
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on 
before typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the 
game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page 
as well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards 
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed 
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham 
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards 
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed 
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham 
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

Re: Local man develops groundbreaking fantasy-game for blind players - ThoroldNews.com

Mich Verrier

#75579

It does look interesting. I for one hope it is werth all the hype. I follow the deliviper on twitter and have beenw ateing to see some audio from this game for a wile now. From Mich.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: February 14, 2020 3:22 PM
To: Main JFW user list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Local man develops groundbreaking fantasy-game for blind players - ThoroldNews.com

FYI.

Looks interesting.

https://www.thoroldnews.com/local-news/local-man-develops-groundbreaking-fantasy-game-for-blind-players-2091157

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

Re: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

Mark Fisher

#75578

Hi

Another option depending on how the data has been layed out would be to also use the Filter option in excel where you can filter by colour. Wouldn't always work but might quikcly tell you all the colours which exists in a particular column of data.
Otherwise I agree with the sounds scheme option - just might take some time to set it up.

Mark

Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Dan Longmore

#75577

Yes the issue has been around for a while now it occurs and most browsers from time to time. Not sure why, doesn’t matter what the forms mode is set to either

Re: Is anyone having an edge and forms mode problem?

Larry Wayland

#75576

I am having the same problem on various sites.  It is difficult to know when
the edit box is truly ready to except characters.
Larry

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Password and user names on some site give me a hard time. I just went to
WellsFargo and it took several times tabbing in and out of forms mode to get
logged in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@roadrunner.com>
To: "JAWS User's Group Mailing List" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:25 PM
Subject: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?


Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role 
playing game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode 
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on 
before typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the 
game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page 
as well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards 
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed 
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham 
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards 
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed 
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham 
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Loy <loyrg2845@...>

#75575

Password and user names on some site give me a hard time. I just went to WellsFargo and it took several times tabbing in and out of forms mode to get logged in.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@roadrunner.com>
To: "JAWS User's Group Mailing List" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:25 PM
Subject: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role playing
game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on before
typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page as
well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

Re: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>

#75574

Jonathan, you raise a valid concern regarding using color coding to convey status. This not only presents challenges to screen reader users but it's totally unhelpful for someone who may not require a screen reader or enlarger but who may be color-blind. In this case, placing text in a certain color to convey status is useless and should be avoided.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 2/14/2020 12:54 PM, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

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Hello,
Since colors are being based on status, I think it would be a good idea to add a column for this status and then have an excel color filter that adjusts the color based on this field. This could make it easier for you to filter, and also provides support for color blind individuals. The column could be hidden by default if it bothers the aesthetics of the owner.
I was also wondering if the JAWS skim reading utility works within Excel, while it is generally used to search for paragraphs with a specific word and then read the beginning of the paragraph or similar type functions, I am fairly confident it has a way to detect colors also. I have only tried using it on web sites and word processing documents.
Great question:
Jonathan

Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Rick Mladek

#75573

Ron,

Yes, I have noticed this a regular problem within forms on the internet, as
well.

Rick

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:26 PM
To: JAWS User's Group Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role playing
game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on before
typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page as
well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

Ron Kolesar

#75572

Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role playing
game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on before
typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page as
well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Rick Mladek

#75571

Why would one use the annual nonsense then? No upgrade with version type, i.e: home vs. pro? Odd, but then anymore, with this company... oh, I’ll hold that thought lol

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Well, using that logic, you receive an email from JAWS every year reminding you that your SMA is expiring, or a unexpected charge on your credit card every year. As apposed to one charge every 2 years that is cheaper in the long run. Of course if you don’t have to pay for it, the cost is irrelevant. Swing for the fences and you may hit a home run out of the park.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: February 14, 2020 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

What would be the better of the choices with not what is paid but what is received?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I’m not sure so don’t quote me on this. I think in the long run it is cheaper to buy 2 updates for JAWS, rather then paying $90 per year. I think the cost for 2 updates is $160.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 14, 2020 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws 2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

Best regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind Gamer
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws sma then how much price for upgrade
Thanks

Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Loy <loyrg2845@...>

#75570

I would buy the SMA if you are not too far behind. The annual license is fine for the year but if at the end of the year you don't have $90 then your software becomes a 40 minute demo. Call Freedom Scientific or go to the web site and put in your serial number and it should tell you the cost to upgrade.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Mladek

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:06 PM

Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

What would be the better of the choices with not what is paid but what is received?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I’m not sure so don’t quote me on this. I think in the long run it is cheaper to buy 2 updates for JAWS, rather then paying $90 per year. I think the cost for 2 updates is $160.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 14, 2020 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws 2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

Best regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind Gamer
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws sma then how much price for upgrade
Thanks

Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

David Diamond

#75569

Well, using that logic, you receive an email from JAWS every year reminding you that your SMA is expiring, or a unexpected charge on your credit card every year. As apposed to one charge every 2 years that is cheaper in the long run. Of course if you don’t have to pay for it, the cost is irrelevant. Swing for the fences and you may hit a home run out of the park.

Show quoted text

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: February 14, 2020 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

What would be the better of the choices with not what is paid but what is received?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I’m not sure so don’t quote me on this. I think in the long run it is cheaper to buy 2 updates for JAWS, rather then paying $90 per year. I think the cost for 2 updates is $160.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 14, 2020 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws 2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

Best regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind Gamer
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws sma then how much price for upgrade
Thanks

Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Rick Mladek

#75568

What would be the better of the choices with not what is paid but what is received?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I’m not sure so don’t quote me on this. I think in the long run it is cheaper to buy 2 updates for JAWS, rather then paying $90 per year. I think the cost for 2 updates is $160.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 14, 2020 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws 2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

Best regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind Gamer
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws sma then how much price for upgrade
Thanks

Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

David Diamond

#75567

I’m not sure so don’t quote me on this. I think in the long run it is cheaper to buy 2 updates for JAWS, rather then paying $90 per year. I think the cost for 2 updates is $160.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 14, 2020 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws 2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

Best regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind Gamer
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws sma then how much price for upgrade
Thanks

Local man develops groundbreaking fantasy-game for blind players - ThoroldNews.com

Richard Turner

#75566

FYI.

Looks interesting.

https://www.thoroldnews.com/local-news/local-man-develops-groundbreaking-fantasy-game-for-blind-players-2091157

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

Re: start page and google chrome

Glenn / Lenny

#75565

Research with a web search engine is so important to people, and especially us who otherwise have no access to print.

I wonder things all the time, and I am always doing searches.

I'll be watching TV for example, and I get a thought from something I am watching, and I do a search.

Also, I maintain that it is next to impossible to do your own software repair without another computer in the home, because if one can't get on-line with one computer, for whatever reason, you can use the other one to research what might be wrong with the one that isn't working.

I can't imagine having my home page being anything other than my particular search engine.

Also, a good subject line to a list like this one, is a reflection of what one would do a web search for an answer.

I think many people don't bother to learn the basics of using a web page, even for simple web searches.

I have found that sometimes I have a hard time coming up with the best terms to use in my searches, and I find that as I read the closest results that I found, I can refine my search terms to get even better results.

That is why the Surf's Up link on the FS Jaws training page would help take the fear of using web pages away.

Glenn

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 12:54 PM

Subject: Re: start page and google chrome

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 01:09 PM, Kimsan wrote:

although I did not state it, you think I didn’t perform a google search before coming here?
I said nothing, not one thing, about you.

It is abundantly obvious in many, many, many cases that not a finger has been lifted prior to posting to lists, and that, "Perhaps you should consider a web search, first," is an appropriate, and overdue, response.

You're the one who stated, "Defeats the purpose of a mailing list, if 'google it' is always the answer." That's what I was responding to, as had many questioners spent two seconds web searching and/or searching the group archive they'd have their answer a thousand times over. That needs to happen more often, not less.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Michael Munn

#75564

The toll free number for Vispero is 1800:444:4443. they rased the prise up alittle. the 2 ears Jaws SMA is $150 for Jaws Home use License.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael Munn

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia

www.nfbv.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu

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On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:14 PM Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:

That may indeed be correct, but it is not fair if true.

If someone decides to live without the latest and greatest for a year, they should be able to get a new jaws for the same price as a new user.

So if they changed their name and address, they can get it for less?

That's wrong.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 10:14 AM

Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws 2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

Best regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind Gamer
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws sma then how much price for upgrade
Thanks