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moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Ann Byrne
 

This worked for me.

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 07:44:30 -0600

I assume this is happening in Internet Explorer.
Do the following .
Alt t - Tools
o - Internet Options
Control+tab to Programs
tab to Manage Add-ons
Tab to Filter combo box
Move up to all Add-ons and hit enter to select
Tab to the list of add-ons
The Adobe entry should look like this.
Name Adobe PDF Reader
Publisher Adobe Inc.
Status Disabled
Architecture 32-bit and 64-bit
If it is not disabled you need to make this change.
Open parent document is caused by IE trying to open the document in the
browser. By disabling this add-on it should cause Adobe reader to be opened
externally so you can read the document.
--hth---


moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, there comes a time when when older technology must be left behind.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 4:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

And that applies in reverse as well. I have started to switch to a new point of sale solution for my store, it is called Lightspeed POS, and it is an online system where everything is done in the browser.
They provide support for Firefox and Google Chrome, the new Chromium based Edge also seems to work well, but you can't use IE for this any more.
IE still gets some security updates and I don't know if there is a set date when it will be unsupported or even removed from Windows, but I can't see this taking more than another 2 or 3 years at most especially now that Edge seems to have found its place in the world and with more and more websites upgrading to the latest standards which IE simply won't support any more.
. Anyways, every so often I check something in IE and it drives me crazy how slow it is compared to Chrome or Edge.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Hi,
IE may be slow and not the first , go to, browser but IE remains the only one that consistently works with most sites and in some cases only one used by a company.
I use Chrome but still find that IE works at those times Chrome fails.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

It may be the solution, but as far as I am concerned forget about IE, it's slow and clunky and I bet nobody writes Extensions for it, sorry, I should have said add-ons since IE doesn't support extensions.
At this point and in my opinion the best browser to use is Edge followed by Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

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-->class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I
-->can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank
-->statements. They are only available in PDF. I’m sick of that Open
-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley
-->Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div
-->style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid
-->#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal
-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
-->in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
-->you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter
-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
-->document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
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-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
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-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

<div width="1" style="color:white;clear:both"></div>
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

 

And that applies in reverse as well. I have started to switch to a new point of sale solution for my store, it is called Lightspeed POS, and it is an online system where everything is done in the browser.
They provide support for Firefox and Google Chrome, the new Chromium based Edge also seems to work well, but you can't use IE for this any more.
IE still gets some security updates and I don't know if there is a set date when it will be unsupported or even removed from Windows, but I can't see this taking more than another 2 or 3 years at most especially now that Edge seems to have found its place in the world and with more and more websites upgrading to the latest standards which IE simply won't support any more.
. Anyways, every so often I check something in IE and it drives me crazy how slow it is compared to Chrome or Edge.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Hi,
IE may be slow and not the first , go to, browser but IE remains the only one that consistently works with most sites and in some cases only one used by a company.
I use Chrome but still find that IE works at those times Chrome fails.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

It may be the solution, but as far as I am concerned forget about IE, it's slow and clunky and I bet nobody writes Extensions for it, sorry, I should have said add-ons since IE doesn't support extensions.
At this point and in my opinion the best browser to use is Edge followed by Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"
xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div
-->class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I
-->can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank
-->statements. They are only available in PDF. I’m sick of that Open
-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley
-->Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div
-->style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid
-->#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal
-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
-->in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
-->you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter
-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
-->document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
-->Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

<div width="1" style="color:white;clear:both"></div>
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

And it will of course depend somewhat on your skill, there are OK scripters and good scripters and then there are the few outstanding ones like Brian Hartgen.

I had somebody write some script for me once (I am not going to mention a name) and I ended up paying him $500 for a rather small script to do one thing in one of my point of sale applications and it only ever worked so-so.

He worked on it for a few hours via Jaws Tandem, can’t remember the exact time, but I certainly did not feel like I got a very good deal. I think if you are starting out you may not be able to charge top Dollar until you made a name for yourself.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of goodwitch
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

So, I'm actually not a JAWS script developer (at least not yet).  But I wanted to get a feel for the rates.  And I didn't want to assume that $150 was the only rate.

Interestingly enough, I found a firm in the UK that does a lot of JAWS scripting work, and they charge $60 and hour.  They also have a big backlog of work.  They said, they couldn't even start on a JAWS scripting job until April. The firm is Hartgen Consultancy http://www.hartgen.org/accessible  

Thank y'all for your responses.  In my mind..I'm now thinking that the hourly rate for JAWS scripting is likely between $60 and $150, depending on where in the world you are.  I also realize that the rate could be higher or lower than that...I was just looking for a ballpark number (and I am in the United States).

Peace out,
G


moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,
IE may be slow and not the first , go to, browser but IE remains the only one that consistently works with most sites and in some cases only one used by a company.
I use Chrome but still find that IE works at those times Chrome fails.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

It may be the solution, but as far as I am concerned forget about IE, it's slow and clunky and I bet nobody writes Extensions for it, sorry, I should have said add-ons since IE doesn't support extensions.
At this point and in my opinion the best browser to use is Edge followed by Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"
xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
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-->class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I
-->can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank
-->statements. They are only available in PDF. I’m sick of that Open
-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley
-->Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div
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-->#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal
-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
-->in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
-->you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter
-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
-->document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
-->Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

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moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

 

It may be the solution, but as far as I am concerned forget about IE, it's slow and clunky and I bet nobody writes Extensions for it, sorry, I should have said add-ons since IE doesn't support extensions.
At this point and in my opinion the best browser to use is Edge followed by Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

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-->class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I
-->can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank
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-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
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-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
-->in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
-->you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter
-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
-->document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
-->Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

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moderated Using Jaws with Group Wise

Joe
 

Hello,

I have a business that is using Group Wise which was a product developed by Novell but is now developed by a company called Micro Focus.  Although the Jaws help Guide mentions the app it references a much older version of the program.  Thus it is not very useful.    I fund the User Guide for Group Wise which covers some of the accessibility features but could anyone provide some references or experiences in using this application which is basically a program much like Microsoft Teams.

Thanks,

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 


moderated Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

goodwitch <glsims99@...>
 

So, I'm actually not a JAWS script developer (at least not yet).  But I wanted to get a feel for the rates.  And I didn't want to assume that $150 was the only rate.

Interestingly enough, I found a firm in the UK that does a lot of JAWS scripting work, and they charge $60 and hour.  They also have a big backlog of work.  They said, they couldn't even start on a JAWS scripting job until April. The firm is Hartgen Consultancy http://www.hartgen.org/accessible  

Thank y'all for your responses.  In my mind..I'm now thinking that the hourly rate for JAWS scripting is likely between $60 and $150, depending on where in the world you are.  I also realize that the rate could be higher or lower than that...I was just looking for a ballpark number (and I am in the United States).

Peace out,
G


moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

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xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div
-->class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I
-->can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank
-->statements. They are only available in PDF. I’m sick of that Open
-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley
-->Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div
-->style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid
-->#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal
-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
-->in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
-->you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter
-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
-->document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
-->Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

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moderated I'm checking

O.Addison Gethers
 

I’m checking to see if I come through

 


moderated Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Dave Durber
 

Hello George:
 
Unfortunately, they will not be in the Recycle Bin Folder because, when I deleted the folder containing the  files, I used the SHIFT+DELETE command, which bypasses the Recycle Bin, which is why I need the accessible file recovery software.
 
Thank you for your suggestion.
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Well they should  be in your recycle trash folder on your desktop.

 

Go to the icon and hit enter and it should open

 

Then alt h for the ribbon and in there is a choice to replace all files back to their original place

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 12, 2020 7:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible File Recovery software

 

Hello everyone:

 

The subject says it all. I accidentally deleted the contents of a folder on one of my hard drives. So, now, I am looking for file recovery software which is accessible using a screen reader, so I can try and recover the deleted files.

 

In the past, I have used File Scavenger, but I found it finiky to use. One of my difficulties was, recovering deleted files in a specific folder location.

 

I hou someone on the list can help.

 

 


moderated Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Glenn / Lenny
 

There are good tools on the WinPe ISO.
Actually, if you have WinPe on a USB drive or a DVD, in the root there is a folder called "programs".
Copy that to your c: root and there are good file and partition recovery tools there that will run in your Windows, without booting to WinPe.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
Subject: Accessible File Recovery software

Hello everyone:
 
The subject says it all. I accidentally deleted the contents of a folder on one of my hard drives. So, now, I am looking for file recovery software which is accessible using a screen reader, so I can try and recover the deleted files.
 
In the past, I have used File Scavenger, but I found it finiky to use. One of my difficulties was, recovering deleted files in a specific folder location.
 
I hou someone on the list can help.
 
 


moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim Ford
 

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me
the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't
get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank statements. They are only available in PDF. I’m sick of that Open Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files. There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford &lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b> Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document, it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp; The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

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moderated Re: Accessible File Recovery software

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Well they should  be in your recycle trash folder on your desktop.

 

Go to the icon and hit enter and it should open

 

Then alt h for the ribbon and in there is a choice to replace all files back to their original place

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 12, 2020 7:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible File Recovery software

 

Hello everyone:

 

The subject says it all. I accidentally deleted the contents of a folder on one of my hard drives. So, now, I am looking for file recovery software which is accessible using a screen reader, so I can try and recover the deleted files.

 

In the past, I have used File Scavenger, but I found it finiky to use. One of my difficulties was, recovering deleted files in a specific folder location.

 

I hou someone on the list can help.

 

 


moderated Accessible File Recovery software

Dave Durber
 

Hello everyone:
 
The subject says it all. I accidentally deleted the contents of a folder on one of my hard drives. So, now, I am looking for file recovery software which is accessible using a screen reader, so I can try and recover the deleted files.
 
In the past, I have used File Scavenger, but I found it finiky to use. One of my difficulties was, recovering deleted files in a specific folder location.
 
I hou someone on the list can help.
 
 


moderated Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

Richard Turner
 

If you were Elfaba, you might charge more than $150, but since you are Glenda, it depends on what State you are scripting in.

Not all States pay as much as California.

But, if in California, do as Californians do.

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

Dear Glenda & List:

If you are scripting for the California Dept. of Rehabilitation, I guess you charge $150/Hour for scripting, if working for a client with a big firm, whatever they will pay.

 

Why should you work for less than the maximum they will pay?

JAWS scripting seems to pay well. Cash in!

Brian K. Lingard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

You would have to ask different scripters as to what they charge.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of goodwitch
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

I want to know what people usually charge per hour to write JAWS scripts.  I know what the big a11y firms charge (tends to be over $150 per hour).  I'm also seeing $150 an hour listed as the rate for the California Governments Department of Rehabilitation https://www.dor.ca.gov/Cal-atsd/Service/Details?id=206

What do y'all think the hourly rate for JAWS scripting is?

Thanks so much,
Glenda the Goodwitch

 

 


moderated Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Glenda & List:

If you are scripting for the California Dept. of Rehabilitation, I guess you charge $150/Hour for scripting, if working for a client with a big firm, whatever they will pay.

 

Why should you work for less than the maximum they will pay?

JAWS scripting seems to pay well. Cash in!

Brian K. Lingard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

You would have to ask different scripters as to what they charge.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of goodwitch
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

I want to know what people usually charge per hour to write JAWS scripts.  I know what the big a11y firms charge (tends to be over $150 per hour).  I'm also seeing $150 an hour listed as the rate for the California Governments Department of Rehabilitation https://www.dor.ca.gov/Cal-atsd/Service/Details?id=206

What do y'all think the hourly rate for JAWS scripting is?

Thanks so much,
Glenda the Goodwitch

 

 


moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

John Covici
 

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me
the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't
get anything, but it usually works.

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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank statements. They are only available in PDF. I’m sick of that Open Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>  </p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files. There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford &lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b> Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document, it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp; The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

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moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Randy Barnett
 

Never cared for PDF's opeing in a browser. Not even the latest or greatest ones.

On 2/11/2020 8:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Or you could use a modern browser such as Edge or Chrome

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

 

In addition to setting adobe reader as the default pdf reader you need to go into adobe reader and disable the setting "open in internet browser" or something like that.

On 2/11/2020 3:23 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

 

When I am using Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document, it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.  Try as I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.  The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of saving the target. 

 

How can I set things up so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the document opens with Adobe.

 

Thanks!

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: Jaws not seeing text or links on web site

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Jonathan,

 

If I did get into Flexible web it was completely by accident. I’ll check it out and hopefully resolve my issue. I do, however, occasionally have weird Jaws behavior in other apps, so I fear it might go deeper. But I will definitely try Flexible web settings first. If that doesn’t do it, it’s a call to tech support for me.

 

Best,

Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not seeing text or links on web site

 

the only reason I can think that this might happen would be if you have flexible web rules enabled on the site. If you do, then Radio button 5 in the Flexible web dialog should be available in the flexible web dialog.  There aren't really any other ways in JAWS settings that would hide links.