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Re: Pc cursor jump's all over the screen in Windows 10 settings screen
Chris Hill
Try the touch cursor and see if it works better. It often does in those sorts of applications. Frankly, I just don't worry about it, once I've told it to get updates I go do something else. You're going to get the updates regardless.
On 1/16/2020 21:33, Michael Munn wrote:
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Pc cursor jump's all over the screen in Windows 10 settings screen
Michael Munn
Hi all,Hi all, I have a concern and I don't know if that can be resolved. I recently bought a new laptop and when I finished my activation of the screen reader to this computer, I begin to experience this problem when I'm updating my computer. Every time when I press tab and focus the cursor to the first update, Jaws begin to jump off of it after announcing the first update out of 6 or 7 updates. To make it fair, I unloaded Jaws and loaded NVDA and NVDA seem's don't have this problem. Does this issue can be resolved? if so How to do it? Hope to hear from you'all. Best regards Michael Munn
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
Melissa Stott
Is there a way to turn auto refresh in Microsoft Edge? I can be on a site, and the page keeps refreshing every couple of seconds. Thanks.
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
Hi, The issue folks are talking about can be summarized in one way: UI Automation. The following is a bit geeky, so please bear with me: By default, Edge 79 (beta and stable) enables native UI Automation implementation. This means in order to access content in Edge (Chromium-based, that is), solid UI Automation implementation must be agreed upon between web browser (UIA server) and screen readers (UIA clients). Unfortunately, according to one screen reader vendor, UI Automation in Edge 79 isn’t solid yet, so one screen reader is resorting to forcefully turning off UIA support in Edge (from screen reader point of view). As for all sorts of announcements JAWS is making in Edge 79: this is caused by UI Automation notification event (introduced in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update). This event is used by apps to let screen readers announce essential messages. This is how Narrator can announce certain messages, and recent JAWS versions support this event. For now the workaround (until Microsoft resolves this) is forcefully telling Edge 79 to not expose UI Automation to screen readers. This can be done by:
I’ll publish more info on a dedicated Windows 10 forum for screen reader users (with updated info on screen readers and their responses) in a few moments. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
How do I change the settings in edge? Microsoft help desk says you can’t. You can just reset or repair it, you cannot turn on or off any settings. I just don’t want edge to ribbit on about things I really don’t need to know such as opening or closing navigations.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
The new Chromium-based version of Microsoft Edge has worked well with JAWS 2020 in my testing. It’s very similar to Chrome in terms of accessibility.
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:43 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
It's been essential long before "these days." Browsers have been vastly configurable for some time now. What's really nice, though, is that many of them now have a search feature for their settings, not unlike Windows 10 does for system settings. I generally find it a lot easier to locate what I want with a search, or several searches using different, but related, keywords than to brute force drill down through page after page or tab after tab of settings. There has also been a tendency to move things around over time, so if you remember what setting it is you want to tweak it's much easier to locate with a search if it's been moved. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Team Talk Scripts Updated
Mike B
Howdy for those that might be interested,
JAWS Scripts For TeamTalk 5 Classic
Doug Lee has made some important updates to these scripts and you can get them by clicking on the link below. Take care. Mike. Sent from my
iBarstool.
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Re: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Mike Fulton <mikefulton95@...>
It worked for me.
From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 20:53 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: a strange message when I boot up my computer. Hi Mike, I tried your subscribe link and the message came back as undeliverable. Jim
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Mike B
Hi Jim,
You sent this to the wrong email list. This one shut down several months ago. Send your message to the new list below, if you're a member and if not I'll include the subscribe email address so you can join
To post a question:
To subscribe:
----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Rawls Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:37 PM Subject: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Hi all, When I boot up my computer, this is what I hear. The freedom scientific video disability driver did not install properly. It tells me to reboot up my computer, and do a repair to the driver. When I try to do a repair, it always fails to repair. How do I fix this? I am currently using jaws 2020, latest update. However, it does the same thing when I try jaws 19 or 18as well. I am running windows ten. Any ideas on how to fix this? and thanks for your help in advance. Jim
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Re: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Jim Rawls
Hi Mike, I tried your subscribe link and the message came back as undeliverable. Jim
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 2:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Hi Jim,
You sent this to the wrong email list. This one shut down several months ago. Send your message to the new list below, if you're a member and if not I'll include the subscribe email address so you can join
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To subscribe:
----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Rawls Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:37 PM Subject: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Hi all, When I boot up my computer, this is what I hear. The freedom scientific video disability driver did not install properly. It tells me to reboot up my computer, and do a repair to the driver. When I try to do a repair, it always fails to repair. How do I fix this? I am currently using jaws 2020, latest update. However, it does the same thing when I try jaws 19 or 18as well. I am running windows ten. Any ideas on how to fix this? and thanks for your help in advance. Jim
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Re: accessible password managers
Mike Fulton <mikefulton95@...>
Thank you, I'll check it out.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:51 PM Gmail Jonas <jonasvoll@...> wrote:
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
Hi, The issue folks are talking about can be summarized in one way: UI Automation. The following is a bit geeky, so please bear with me: By default, Edge 79 (beta and stable) enables native UI Automation implementation. This means in order to access content in Edge (Chromium-based, that is), solid UI Automation implementation must be agreed upon between web browser (UIA server) and screen readers (UIA clients). Unfortunately, according to one screen reader vendor, UI Automation in Edge 79 isn’t solid yet, so one screen reader is resorting to forcefully turning off UIA support in Edge (from screen reader point of view). As for all sorts of announcements JAWS is making in Edge 79: this is caused by UI Automation notification event (introduced in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update). This event is used by apps to let screen readers announce essential messages. This is how Narrator can announce certain messages, and recent JAWS versions support this event. For now the workaround (until Microsoft resolves this) is forcefully telling Edge 79 to not expose UI Automation to screen readers. This can be done by:
I’ll publish more info on a dedicated Windows 10 forum for screen reader users (with updated info on screen readers and their responses) in a few moments. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 4:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
How do I change the settings in edge? Microsoft help desk says you can’t. You can just reset or repair it, you cannot turn on or off any settings. I just don’t want edge to ribbit on about things I really don’t need to know such as opening or closing navigations.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
The new Chromium-based version of Microsoft Edge has worked well with JAWS 2020 in my testing. It’s very similar to Chrome in terms of accessibility.
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:43 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
It's been essential long before "these days." Browsers have been vastly configurable for some time now. What's really nice, though, is that many of them now have a search feature for their settings, not unlike Windows 10 does for system settings. I generally find it a lot easier to locate what I want with a search, or several searches using different, but related, keywords than to brute force drill down through page after page or tab after tab of settings. There has also been a tendency to move things around over time, so if you remember what setting it is you want to tweak it's much easier to locate with a search if it's been moved. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
David Diamond
How do I change the settings in edge? Microsoft help desk says you can’t. You can just reset or repair it, you cannot turn on or off any settings. I just don’t want edge to ribbit on about things I really don’t need to know such as opening or closing navigations.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: January 16, 2020 3:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
The new Chromium-based version of Microsoft Edge has worked well with JAWS 2020 in my testing. It’s very similar to Chrome in terms of accessibility.
From:
<main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:43 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
It's been essential long before "these days." Browsers have been vastly configurable for some time now. What's really nice, though, is that many of them now have a search feature for their settings, not unlike Windows
10 does for system settings. I generally find it a lot easier to locate what I want with a search, or several searches using different, but related, keywords than to brute force drill down through page after page or tab after tab of settings. There has also
been a tendency to move things around over time, so if you remember what setting it is you want to tweak it's much easier to locate with a search if it's been moved. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 06:32 PM, Jason White wrote:
[Of the new Chromium-based Edge browser]: It’s very similar to Chrome in terms of accessibility.The same has been observed by me throughout the development period when using Edge Dev with NVDA. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
Jason White
The new Chromium-based version of Microsoft Edge has worked well with JAWS 2020 in my testing. It’s very similar to Chrome in terms of accessibility.
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:43 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
It's been essential long before "these days." Browsers have been vastly configurable for some time now. What's really nice, though, is that many of them now have a search feature for their settings, not unlike Windows 10 does for system settings. I generally find it a lot easier to locate what I want with a search, or several searches using different, but related, keywords than to brute force drill down through page after page or tab after tab of settings. There has also been a tendency to move things around over time, so if you remember what setting it is you want to tweak it's much easier to locate with a search if it's been moved. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: accessible password managers
Gmail Jonas
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Fulton
Hi all,
I'm currently using Chrome to save my passwords and want to move to a dedicated password manager. I'm looking at Last Pass and 1Password. Any feedback on either program would be much appreciated. I am mainly wondering if one is more accessible than the other. I use JAWS on Windows and VoiceOver on iOS.
Thanks, Mike
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Re: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Mike B
Hi Jim,
You sent this to the wrong email list. This one shut
down several months ago. Send your message to the new list below, if
you're a member and if not I'll include the subscribe email address so you can
join
To post a question:
To subscribe:
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:37 PM
Subject: a strange message when I boot up my computer. Hi all, When I boot up my computer, this is what I hear. The freedom scientific video disability driver did not install properly. It tells me to reboot up my computer, and do a repair to the driver. When I try to do a repair, it always fails to repair. How do I fix this? I am currently using jaws 2020, latest update. However, it does the same thing when I try jaws 19 or 18as well. I am running windows ten. Any ideas on how to fix this? and thanks for your help in advance. Jim
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
David Diamond
Oh, to have a perfect browser. If I use edge with face book, instead of it reading “full story” it reads m o r e o p t i o n s where as I E reads out full story. Fire fox? Different ways of getting to messages or notifications. This is why I agree with the post below.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: January 16, 2020 2:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:43 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
It's been essential long before "these days." Browsers have been vastly configurable for some time now. What's really nice, though, is that many of them now have a search feature for their settings, not unlike Windows 10 does for system
settings. I generally find it a lot easier to locate what I want with a search, or several searches using different, but related, keywords than to brute force drill down through page after page or tab after tab of settings. There has also been a tendency
to move things around over time, so if you remember what setting it is you want to tweak it's much easier to locate with a search if it's been moved. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:43 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Becoming familiar with the web browser and its settings is essential these days since there are so many things to enable or disable. It's also good to have a few browsers at your disposal - for instance, Chrome, edge, and firefox - just in case a website doesn't play nice with one or the other.It's been essential long before "these days." Browsers have been vastly configurable for some time now. What's really nice, though, is that many of them now have a search feature for their settings, not unlike Windows 10 does for system settings. I generally find it a lot easier to locate what I want with a search, or several searches using different, but related, keywords than to brute force drill down through page after page or tab after tab of settings. There has also been a tendency to move things around over time, so if you remember what setting it is you want to tweak it's much easier to locate with a search if it's been moved. Any given tool, including screen readers, occasionally won't "play well" with some given thing when another tool of the same class will. Having several options, even if you're not 100% fluent with the second and third ones, often makes the difference between success and failure for getting at certain information (and that includes for those of us who are not using screen readers, too). -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
Randy Barnett
Also Google collects all your browsing habits. Brave is a chromium based browser that is Privacy oriented.
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On 1/16/2020 1:58 PM, Randy Barnett via Groups.Io wrote:
Water Fox is even faster. I just started using it and it is noticeably faster loading pages than Chromium based browsers. I dont have any real issues with Edge but Water Fox is just faster so far anyway.
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Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
Randy Barnett
Water Fox is even faster. I just started using it and it is noticeably faster loading pages than Chromium based browsers. I dont have any real issues with Edge but Water Fox is just faster so far anyway.
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Re: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Ron Pelletier
Hi Jim,
Just install the very latest update right on top of the current one. I’ve had that problem before. If for some crazy reason, that doesn’t work, remove your JAWS 2020 completely and re-install it. You won’t lose your licence.
Ron & Danvers
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 3:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Hi all, When I boot up my computer, this is what I hear. The freedom scientific video disability driver did not install properly. It tells me to reboot up my computer, and do a repair to the driver. When I try to do a repair, it always fails to repair. How do I fix this? I am currently using jaws 2020, latest update. However, it does the same thing when I try jaws 19 or 18as well. I am running windows ten. Any ideas on how to fix this? and thanks for your help in advance. Jim
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Re: a strange message when I boot up my computer.
Mike Fulton <mikefulton95@...>
Hi Jim, Have you already tried doing a repair of the JAWS installation? If not I would firstly try doing that. If you need instructions let me know. If that didn't work, I would try uninstalling and then re-installing JAWS. Good luck. Mike
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 3:37 PM Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:
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Re: Captcha solving for Edge
andrew edgcumbe
i didn't know google crome could solve captya's also is the solving
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thing actually excessible?
On 1/16/20, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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