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moderated Re: Accessible English-Spanish translation program?

Richard Turner
 

If you have Be My Eyes installed, under their specialty help, you can talk directly with a Google Accessibility person.
That's the only way I know to talk directly with anyone at Google that could help.
Be My Eyes is free, and so if you do not have it, I highly recommend setting up an account.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 14, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:



Hello All,

 

I went to the Google Translate web site, but I am not sure how to operate it.  Does Google have a live-person desk I can call for a bit of initial training?  Or, is there a nice tutorial somewhere?

 

Tim Ford

 

moderated Jaws 2018 Eloquence synthesizer stops working

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi all,

I'm working with a student who has a fairly new HP laptop running
Windows 10, not sure exactly what edition of Windows. He is running
Jaws 2018, and yesterday Jaws quit speaking. I wasn't there when this
happened, but talked to him on the phone afterward. We could not get
Jaws to speak, so I had him turn Narrator on, and we quickly
discovered that the issue seemed to be the Eloquence speech
synthesizer. We went into the Voice settings and changed the
synthesizer from Eloquence to SAPI 5, 64 bit, and Jaws immediately
began speaking. I had the student try to go back and change the
synthesizer back to Eloquence, but it doesn't seem to be available in
the list of synthesizers.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Any ideas how to get the
Eloquence synthesizer back working?

Thanks all,

Russell

moderated Re: Accessible English-Spanish translation program?

 

Cristobal,

I missed this message until today.  The last several days have been absorbed by a new to me car purchase.  I'm sitting in the DMV right now in an effort to get a Virginia title and a new Real ID compliant driver's license.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: Accessible English-Spanish translation program?

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

 

I went to the Google Translate web site, but I am not sure how to operate it.  Does Google have a live-person desk I can call for a bit of initial training?  Or, is there a nice tutorial somewhere?

 

Tim Ford

 

moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Sarah & List: Friend of mine read the JAWS scripting documentation and her first script in an evening. She is just a JAWS user not a programmer, got her Braille working perfectly with JAWS! May by a simpler than he thinks!
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

HI Brian,

Thanks so much! He doesn't have the technical knowledge to do so and I don't have the time to learn at the moment, though I've run across quite a few clients who need this service and feel it very well may be worth it to carve out some time to do so.

Thanks again,

Sarah

On 1/14/2020 5:16 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Dear Sarah & List:

JAWS claim to be end-user configurable, has the client considered writing his own scripts?

Will send you contact info for a friend who scripts JAWS privately I'm case he prefers someone else to write them.
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Hi all,

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with info on this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah

moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Rayn Darren
 

Awesome thanks! btw, rayndarren@... or sarah.hale@....

On 1/14/2020 8:42 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Dear Sarah & List:

JAWS claim to be end-user configurable, has the client considered writing his own scripts?

Tried to send you contact info for a friend who scripts JAWS privately in case he prefers someone else to write scripts, however, JAWS said cannot retrieve sender's address.
Brian K. Lingard
Mr. Steve Matzura, 305 324 St. E. Apt. 5Y, New York, NY 10010
Tel (212) 545-1434 E-MAIL: Number6@...
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Hi all,

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with info on this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

ratshtron
 

the next thing is to press both keys i.e., ctrl or alt keys several times at the same time rapidly and I find that clears the problem for me when it happens.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 1/14/20 03:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
I was so excited to read your message and sure enough, press the shift key 5 times certainly gives you the ption to switch off sticky keys, however, unfortunately it didn't solve my problem. What a shame!
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn̢۪t seem tm to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn̢۪t anything wrong ng with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
down, I have seen this before as well. Most
often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or
why this happens. For me, it is not a
mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
think it has something to do with something like
“sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague gue recollection
that a certain combination of keystrokes in
Windows causes keys to act like they are always
pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
this without knowing or intending to do so. For
me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don̢۪t actually get stuck down but
behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before
Christmas and I wasn̢۪t alone with this issue
where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed̢۪s advice and wait till
the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
advantage of Sight and Sound̢۪s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like
they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at
$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes
the most sense in your situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------






----------------------------------------

moderated Re: jaws 2020 speech issue with blueooth headphones

 

I have never had much luck with any Bluetooth headset or speakers on a laptop, but Silenzio may help, check the archives and you’ll find plenty of posts about it, I think it was only discussed last week or 10 days ago..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws 2020 speech issue with blueooth headphones

 

Hi,

 

I’m using jaws2020, and Aftershokz trekz titanium headphones.

 

I’ve noticed recently that my jaws speech stutters.

 

Is this normal?

 

How can I fix it?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Richard Turner
 

Has anyone suggested trying a different keyboard to sort out if it is a hardware issue?

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

Here are a couple of additional things to consider.  One, sometimes there can be some sort of setting within the JAWS Keyboard Manager (under JAWS Utilities) that can cause this problem.  Maybe setting it back to its defaults should be tried.  I do not know exactly how to do this, but I know it can be done pretty easily!  Another idea is to take a look at any weird, inadvertent keyboard settings that you may have set in your computer itself.  Sometimes, these are called “hot keys.”  Sometimes, they are found wherever you might re-define function key operations.  In Windows 7, you could find the right place under Control Panel.  For Windows 10, I am not sure where to look since I myself am new to it.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Thanks for the suggestion; I will give it a try.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: 14 January 2020 12:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison,

I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Brian K. Lingard
 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Dear Sarah & List:

JAWS claim to be end-user configurable, has the client considered writing his own scripts?

Tried to send you contact info for a friend who scripts JAWS privately in case he prefers someone else to write scripts, however, JAWS said cannot retrieve sender's address.
Brian K. Lingard
Mr. Steve Matzura, 305 324 St. E. Apt. 5Y, New York, NY 10010
Tel (212) 545-1434 E-MAIL: Number6@...
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Hi all,

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with info on this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah

moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Rayn Darren
 

HI Brian,

Thanks so much! He doesn't have the technical knowledge to do so and I don't have the time to learn at the moment, though I've run across quite a few clients who need this service and feel it very well may be worth it to carve out some time to do so.

Thanks again,

Sarah

On 1/14/2020 5:16 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Dear Sarah & List:

JAWS claim to be end-user configurable, has the client considered writing his own scripts?

Will send you contact info for a friend who scripts JAWS privately I'm case he prefers someone else to write them.
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Hi all,

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with info on this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah



moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Alison!

 

Here are a couple of additional things to consider.  One, sometimes there can be some sort of setting within the JAWS Keyboard Manager (under JAWS Utilities) that can cause this problem.  Maybe setting it back to its defaults should be tried.  I do not know exactly how to do this, but I know it can be done pretty easily!  Another idea is to take a look at any weird, inadvertent keyboard settings that you may have set in your computer itself.  Sometimes, these are called “hot keys.”  Sometimes, they are found wherever you might re-define function key operations.  In Windows 7, you could find the right place under Control Panel.  For Windows 10, I am not sure where to look since I myself am new to it.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Thanks for the suggestion; I will give it a try.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: 14 January 2020 12:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison,

I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Dave Durber
 


Hello Alison:
 
fsince I wrote my response to your email, for no apparent reason, when I pressed the ESC key to get out of an email message, JAWS said "Invisible Cursor". I unloaded and restarted JAWS and the problem went away because, when I pressed the ESC key, I was able to get out of the email message. I will not say that this solution will solve your problem, but, it is worth a try.
 
HTH
 
Dave durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Sarah & List:

JAWS claim to be end-user configurable, has the client considered writing his own scripts?

Will send you contact info for a friend who scripts JAWS privately I'm case he prefers someone else to write them.
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Hi all,

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with info on this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

Thanks for the suggestion; I will give it a try.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: 14 January 2020 12:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison,

I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Terrie Terlau
 

Hi Alison,

I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

No, I used to be a Window-eyes user but removed that when I migrated to Jaws a couple of years ago.
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hey, Alison.

Do you have another screen reader on board? If so, do you have sticky keys with that screen reader as well?

Lou N.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this
before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For
me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck
down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do
with something like “sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague
recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes
keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing
or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are.
We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t
alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before
upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to
the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may
not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that
will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you
would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump
right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now
like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many
upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version?
Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the
alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

fenderwal@...
 

Hey, Alison.

Do you have another screen reader on board? If so, do you have sticky keys with that screen reader as well?

Lou N.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this
before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For
me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck
down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do
with something like “sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague
recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes
keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing
or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are.
We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t
alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before
upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to
the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may
not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that
will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you
would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump
right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Dave Durber
 


Alison:
 
In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.
 
My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.
 
HTH:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison