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moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Brian K. Lingard
 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Dear Sarah & List:

JAWS claim to be end-user configurable, has the client considered writing his own scripts?

Tried to send you contact info for a friend who scripts JAWS privately in case he prefers someone else to write scripts, however, JAWS said cannot retrieve sender's address.
Brian K. Lingard
Mr. Steve Matzura, 305 324 St. E. Apt. 5Y, New York, NY 10010
Tel (212) 545-1434 E-MAIL: Number6@...
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Hi all,

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with info on this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah


moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Rayn Darren
 

HI Brian,

Thanks so much! He doesn't have the technical knowledge to do so and I don't have the time to learn at the moment, though I've run across quite a few clients who need this service and feel it very well may be worth it to carve out some time to do so.

Thanks again,

Sarah

On 1/14/2020 5:16 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Dear Sarah & List:

JAWS claim to be end-user configurable, has the client considered writing his own scripts?

Will send you contact info for a friend who scripts JAWS privately I'm case he prefers someone else to write them.
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Hi all,

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with info on this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah




moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Alison!

 

Here are a couple of additional things to consider.  One, sometimes there can be some sort of setting within the JAWS Keyboard Manager (under JAWS Utilities) that can cause this problem.  Maybe setting it back to its defaults should be tried.  I do not know exactly how to do this, but I know it can be done pretty easily!  Another idea is to take a look at any weird, inadvertent keyboard settings that you may have set in your computer itself.  Sometimes, these are called “hot keys.”  Sometimes, they are found wherever you might re-define function key operations.  In Windows 7, you could find the right place under Control Panel.  For Windows 10, I am not sure where to look since I myself am new to it.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Thanks for the suggestion; I will give it a try.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: 14 January 2020 12:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison,

I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Dave Durber
 


Hello Alison:
 
fsince I wrote my response to your email, for no apparent reason, when I pressed the ESC key to get out of an email message, JAWS said "Invisible Cursor". I unloaded and restarted JAWS and the problem went away because, when I pressed the ESC key, I was able to get out of the email message. I will not say that this solution will solve your problem, but, it is worth a try.
 
HTH
 
Dave durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison


moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Sarah & List:

JAWS claim to be end-user configurable, has the client considered writing his own scripts?

Will send you contact info for a friend who scripts JAWS privately I'm case he prefers someone else to write them.
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Rain Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Hi all,

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with info on this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

Thanks for the suggestion; I will give it a try.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: 14 January 2020 12:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison,

I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Terrie Terlau
 

Hi Alison,

I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

I  guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening.

Alison

 

   

Guess

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Alison:

 

In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.

 

HTH:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

No, I used to be a Window-eyes user but removed that when I migrated to Jaws a couple of years ago.
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hey, Alison.

Do you have another screen reader on board? If so, do you have sticky keys with that screen reader as well?

Lou N.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this
before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For
me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck
down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do
with something like “sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague
recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes
keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing
or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are.
We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t
alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before
upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to
the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may
not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that
will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you
would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump
right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now
like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many
upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version?
Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the
alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

fenderwal@...
 

Hey, Alison.

Do you have another screen reader on board? If so, do you have sticky keys with that screen reader as well?

Lou N.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this
before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For
me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck
down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do
with something like “sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague
recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes
keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing
or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are.
We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t
alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before
upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to
the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may
not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that
will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you
would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump
right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Dave Durber
 


Alison:
 
In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.
 
My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.
 
HTH:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately.
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
down, I have seen this before as well. Most
often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or
why this happens. For me, it is not a
mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
think it has something to do with something like
“sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague recollection
that a certain combination of keystrokes in
Windows causes keys to act like they are always
pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
this without knowing or intending to do so. For
me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before
Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like
they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at
$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes
the most sense in your situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

I was so excited to read your message and sure enough, press the shift key 5 times certainly gives you the ption to switch off sticky keys, however, unfortunately it didn't solve my problem. What a shame!
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
down, I have seen this before as well. Most
often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or
why this happens. For me, it is not a
mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
think it has something to do with something like
“sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague recollection
that a certain combination of keystrokes in
Windows causes keys to act like they are always
pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
this without knowing or intending to do so. For
me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before
Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like
they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at
$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes
the most sense in your situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

No, I haven’t tried that, but will. However, my gut feeling is that the problem is not a mechanical or physical one, why else does this never occur when using the alt key when using internet explorer?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Zeigler
Sent: 14 January 2020 07:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

hello have you tried using a can of compressed air to try to any dust or debris out of the keyboard? Sometimes when I have a key get stuck sent will 6 the prothom. Please let me know if you've tried that to fix the problem.
Chris

 

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 4:58 PM ratshtron <northstarr1950@...> wrote:

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right
shift key 5 times and then answer no to the
dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
>Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t
>seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are
>right that it is something to do with
>sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t
>anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
>But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the
>alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
>Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
>Alison
>
>
>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
>Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
>To: main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
>
>Hi Alison!
>
>About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
>down, I have seen this before as well.  Most
>often, it is either or both of the alt and
>windows keys.  I have never figured out how or
>why this happens.  For me, it is not a
>mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
>stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I
>think it has something to do with something like
>“sticky keys.â€&#65533;  I have a vague recollection
>that a certain combination of keystrokes in
>Windows causes keys to act like they are always
>pressed down.  I do not know what that
>combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger
>this without knowing or intending to do so.  For
>me, the problem goes away after a restart.
>
>HTH,
>Richard
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
>behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
>I had a feeling that this was discussed before
>Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
>where the computer behaves as though the alt key
>or windows key is still depressed.
>I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
>the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
>advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
>it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
>upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
>Alison
>
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>First, the problem with the keys acting like
>they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
>no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
>Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
>The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
>just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
>2020, but since you get a little better deal
>doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
>Or, you could go with the subscription model at
>$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
>You'll have to do the math to see which makes
>the most sense in your situation.
>HTH,
>
>
>
>Richard
>"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
>in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
>
>
>On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
><<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:
>
>
>I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
>Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
>price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
>you want. How many would I need to have the
>current version? Would the current version get
>rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
>windows key appearing as jammed down?
>Alison
>
>
----------------------------------------




moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Christopher Zeigler
 

hello have you tried using a can of compressed air to try to any dust or debris out of the keyboard? Sometimes when I have a key get stuck sent will 6 the prothom. Please let me know if you've tried that to fix the problem.
Chris


On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 4:58 PM ratshtron <northstarr1950@...> wrote:
if it is sticky keys, you can press the right
shift key 5 times and then answer no to the
dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
>Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t
>seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are
>right that it is something to do with
>sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t
>anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
>But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the
>alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
>Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
>Alison
>
>
>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
>Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
>To: main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
>
>Hi Alison!
>
>About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
>down, I have seen this before as well.  Most
>often, it is either or both of the alt and
>windows keys.  I have never figured out how or
>why this happens.  For me, it is not a
>mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
>stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I
>think it has something to do with something like
>“sticky keys.â€&#65533;  I have a vague recollection
>that a certain combination of keystrokes in
>Windows causes keys to act like they are always
>pressed down.  I do not know what that
>combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger
>this without knowing or intending to do so.  For
>me, the problem goes away after a restart.
>
>HTH,
>Richard
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
>behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
>I had a feeling that this was discussed before
>Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
>where the computer behaves as though the alt key
>or windows key is still depressed.
>I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
>the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
>advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
>it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
>upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
>Alison
>
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>First, the problem with the keys acting like
>they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
>no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
>Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
>The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
>just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
>2020, but since you get a little better deal
>doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
>Or, you could go with the subscription model at
>$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
>You'll have to do the math to see which makes
>the most sense in your situation.
>HTH,
>
>
>
>Richard
>"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
>in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
>
>
>On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
><<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:
>
>
>I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
>Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
>price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
>you want. How many would I need to have the
>current version? Would the current version get
>rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
>windows key appearing as jammed down?
>Alison
>
>
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moderated Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

Hi,

In theory, it should.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

Thanks!

 

Will this resolve the edit box issue?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: FW: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:25 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge... #ChromiumEdge

 

Hi all,

 

Someone reported on JFW list (hosted on Groups.IO) that the user cannot interact with certain web content displayed in Edge 79 beta, along with a thread on Win10 forum about inability to interact with web content shown in Edge with other screen readers. This issue can be traced to the fact that, in Edge 79 (upcoming stable version), UI Automation is enabled (several reports were sent to Microsoft about this issue). Unfortunately, as an NVDA core developer (not me) notes, UIA implementation in Chromium-based web browsers (including Edge) isn’t solid yet.

 

To work around this for now, you need to disable UIA support in Edge and other Chromium-based web browsers (if your browser exposes this option). To do so in Edge 79:

 

  1. Start new Microsoft Edge (not the old one).
  2. From address omnibox (Alt+D), type “edge://flags” (without quotes and as exactly as shown) and press Enter.
  3. Type “UI Automation” into “search flags” and press Tab to move through resulting content (no, DO NOT PRESS ENTER AFTER TYPING FLAGS!).
  4. Go to “Native UI Automation” combo box and select “disabled”.
  5. Press Tab to go to “Restart” button and click it.

 

Screen reader specifics:

 

  • Narrator: supports native UI Automation
  • JAWS: works better with native UI Automation off
  • NVDA: works better with UI Automation off and a fix is being developed
  • Other screen readers: contact vendors

 

Cheers,

Joseph


moderated function key row on keyboard stopped working

Stan Holdeman
 

With Windows 10, Jaws 2020  and an HP laptop I have a Magic keyboard attached thru a hub. The function keys and all other top row of keys have stopped responding. The board has some years on it. I assume it has worn out. Just checking to see iif there might be something fixable that I don’t know about.

 


Stan

 


moderated Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

clarence carter
 

Thanks!

 

Will this resolve the edit box issue?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: FW: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:25 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge... #ChromiumEdge

 

Hi all,

 

Someone reported on JFW list (hosted on Groups.IO) that the user cannot interact with certain web content displayed in Edge 79 beta, along with a thread on Win10 forum about inability to interact with web content shown in Edge with other screen readers. This issue can be traced to the fact that, in Edge 79 (upcoming stable version), UI Automation is enabled (several reports were sent to Microsoft about this issue). Unfortunately, as an NVDA core developer (not me) notes, UIA implementation in Chromium-based web browsers (including Edge) isn’t solid yet.

 

To work around this for now, you need to disable UIA support in Edge and other Chromium-based web browsers (if your browser exposes this option). To do so in Edge 79:

 

  1. Start new Microsoft Edge (not the old one).
  2. From address omnibox (Alt+D), type “edge://flags” (without quotes and as exactly as shown) and press Enter.
  3. Type “UI Automation” into “search flags” and press Tab to move through resulting content (no, DO NOT PRESS ENTER AFTER TYPING FLAGS!).
  4. Go to “Native UI Automation” combo box and select “disabled”.
  5. Press Tab to go to “Restart” button and click it.

 

Screen reader specifics:

 

  • Narrator: supports native UI Automation
  • JAWS: works better with native UI Automation off
  • NVDA: works better with UI Automation off and a fix is being developed
  • Other screen readers: contact vendors

 

Cheers,

Joseph


moderated Seeking Jackie McBride

Rayn Darren
 

Good afternoon list,

As the subject says, I'm looking to connect with Jackie McBride. If she could contact me, or if anyone has her contact info, I'd really appreciate a chat with her.

Thanks so much,

Sarah


moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

ratshtron
 

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
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Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison


From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

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