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Thanks for the suggestion; I will give it a try. Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: 14 January 2020 12:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down Hi Alison, I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH. Terrie Terlau I guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening. Alison Guess In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer. My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself. But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens. Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet. Alison Hi Alison! About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.” I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart. HTH, Richard The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them. I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed. I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version. Alison First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem. Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue. The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021. Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version. You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down? Alison
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Hi Alison, I have not followed this thread from the beginning, but have read the last few posts. I’m not sure if this idea has been suggested, but if you have not done so, try holding down the stuck key for 5 seconds. You may need to do this several times. In the past, this has unstuck a key for me. HTH. Terrie Terlau
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down I guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening. Alison Guess In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer. My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself. But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens. Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet. Alison Hi Alison! About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.” I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart. HTH, Richard The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them. I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed. I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version. Alison First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem. Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue. The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021. Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version. You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down? Alison
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I guess I could try unloading Jaws and re-loading, although I have tried disabling and re-enabling it. Re-starting the computer doesn’t stop it from happening. Alison Guess
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 14 January 2020 11:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer. My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself. But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens. Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet. Alison Hi Alison! About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.” I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart. HTH, Richard The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them. I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed. I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version. Alison First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem. Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue. The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021. Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version. You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down? Alison
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No, I used to be a Window-eyes user but removed that when I migrated to Jaws a couple of years ago.
Alison
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@sbcglobal.net Sent: 14 January 2020 11:58 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down Hey, Alison. Do you have another screen reader on board? If so, do you have sticky keys with that screen reader as well? Lou N. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately. Alison -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys. Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said: ---------------------------------------- Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
Hi Alison!
About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this
before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For
me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck
down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do
with something like “sticky keys.� I have a vague
recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes
keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing
or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.
HTH,
Richard
From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are.
We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t
alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before
upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to
the current version.
Alison
From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may
not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that
will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you
would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump
right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
situation.
HTH,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane Wagner
On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@gmail.com>chrisalismay@gmail.com> wrote:

I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now
like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many
upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version?
Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the
alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison
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Hey, Alison.
Do you have another screen reader on board? If so, do you have sticky keys with that screen reader as well?
Lou N.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately. Alison -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys. Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said: ---------------------------------------- Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
Hi Alison!
About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this
before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For
me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck
down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do
with something like “sticky keys.� I have a vague
recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes
keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing
or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.
HTH,
Richard
From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are.
We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t
alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before
upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to
the current version.
Alison
From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may
not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that
will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you
would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump
right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
situation.
HTH,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@gmail.com>chrisalismay@gmail.com> wrote:

I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison
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Alison:
In addition to the ideas which have
been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the
computer.
My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not
think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In
order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the
left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in
succession.
HTH:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36
PM
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck
Down
Unfortunately,
Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are
right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely
isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
But I se a
suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this
the next time it happens.
Interestingly
enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck
Down
Hi Alison!
About your issue with keys seemingly being
stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or
both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why
this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys
physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it
has something to do with something like “sticky keys.” I have a vague
recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys
to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or
intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a
restart.
HTH,
Richard
The keys don’t actually get stuck
down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was
discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the
computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice
and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and
Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade
from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison
First, the problem with the keys
acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say
one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you
have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020,
so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you
get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do
through 2021.
Or, you could go with the
subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020
version.
You'll have to do the math to see
which makes the most sense in your situation.
"Reality is the leading cause of
stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the
Universe, by Jane Wagner
I was given a free migration
from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price
varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to
have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem
I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed
down?
Alison
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I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately.
Alison
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys. Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said: ---------------------------------------- Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
Hi Alison!
About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
down, I have seen this before as well. Most
often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or
why this happens. For me, it is not a
mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
think it has something to do with something like
“sticky keys.� I have a vague recollection
that a certain combination of keystrokes in
Windows causes keys to act like they are always
pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
this without knowing or intending to do so. For
me, the problem goes away after a restart.
HTH,
Richard
From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before
Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison
From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
First, the problem with the keys acting like
they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at
$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes
the most sense in your situation.
HTH,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@gmail.com>chrisalismay@gmail.com> wrote:

I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison
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I was so excited to read your message and sure enough, press the shift key 5 times certainly gives you the ption to switch off sticky keys, however, unfortunately it didn't solve my problem. What a shame!
Alison
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys. Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said: ---------------------------------------- Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
Hi Alison!
About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
down, I have seen this before as well. Most
often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or
why this happens. For me, it is not a
mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
think it has something to do with something like
“sticky keys.� I have a vague recollection
that a certain combination of keystrokes in
Windows causes keys to act like they are always
pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
this without knowing or intending to do so. For
me, the problem goes away after a restart.
HTH,
Richard
From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before
Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison
From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
First, the problem with the keys acting like
they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at
$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes
the most sense in your situation.
HTH,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@gmail.com>chrisalismay@gmail.com> wrote:

I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison
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Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
No, I haven’t tried that, but will. However, my gut feeling is that the problem is not a mechanical or physical one, why else does this never occur when using the alt key when using internet explorer? Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Zeigler
Sent: 14 January 2020 07:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down hello have you tried using a can of compressed air to try to any dust or debris out of the keyboard? Sometimes when I have a key get stuck sent will 6 the prothom. Please let me know if you've tried that to fix the problem.
Chris if it is sticky keys, you can press the right
shift key 5 times and then answer no to the
dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.
Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
>Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t
>seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are
>right that it is something to do with
>sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t
>anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
>But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the
>alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
>Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
>Alison
>
>
>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
>Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
>To: main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
>
>Hi Alison!
>
>About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
>down, I have seen this before as well. Most
>often, it is either or both of the alt and
>windows keys. I have never figured out how or
>why this happens. For me, it is not a
>mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
>stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
>think it has something to do with something like
>“sticky keys.� I have a vague recollection
>that a certain combination of keystrokes in
>Windows causes keys to act like they are always
>pressed down. I do not know what that
>combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
>this without knowing or intending to do so. For
>me, the problem goes away after a restart.
>
>HTH,
>Richard
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
>behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
>I had a feeling that this was discussed before
>Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
>where the computer behaves as though the alt key
>or windows key is still depressed.
>I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
>the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
>advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
>it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
>upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
>Alison
>
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>First, the problem with the keys acting like
>they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
>no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
>Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
>The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
>just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
>2020, but since you get a little better deal
>doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
>Or, you could go with the subscription model at
>$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
>You'll have to do the math to see which makes
>the most sense in your situation.
>HTH,
>
>
>
>Richard
>"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
>in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
>
>
>On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
><<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:
>
>
>I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
>Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
>price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
>you want. How many would I need to have the
>current version? Would the current version get
>rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
>windows key appearing as jammed down?
>Alison
>
>
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Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
hello have you tried using a can of compressed air to try to any dust or debris out of the keyboard? Sometimes when I have a key get stuck sent will 6 the prothom. Please let me know if you've tried that to fix the problem.
Chris
if it is sticky keys, you can press the right
shift key 5 times and then answer no to the
dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.
Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
>Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t
>seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are
>right that it is something to do with
>sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t
>anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
>But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the
>alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
>Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
>Alison
>
>
>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
>Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
>To: main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
>
>Hi Alison!
>
>About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
>down, I have seen this before as well. Most
>often, it is either or both of the alt and
>windows keys. I have never figured out how or
>why this happens. For me, it is not a
>mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
>stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
>think it has something to do with something like
>“sticky keys.� I have a vague recollection
>that a certain combination of keystrokes in
>Windows causes keys to act like they are always
>pressed down. I do not know what that
>combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
>this without knowing or intending to do so. For
>me, the problem goes away after a restart.
>
>HTH,
>Richard
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
>behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
>I had a feeling that this was discussed before
>Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
>where the computer behaves as though the alt key
>or windows key is still depressed.
>I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
>the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
>advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
>it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
>upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
>Alison
>
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>First, the problem with the keys acting like
>they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
>no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
>Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
>The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
>just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
>2020, but since you get a little better deal
>doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
>Or, you could go with the subscription model at
>$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
>You'll have to do the math to see which makes
>the most sense in your situation.
>HTH,
>
>
>
>Richard
>"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
>in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
>
>
>On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
><<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:
>
>
>I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
>Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
>price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
>you want. How many would I need to have the
>current version? Would the current version get
>rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
>windows key appearing as jammed down?
>Alison
>
>
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Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...
Hi, In theory, it should. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 6:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge... Thanks! Will this resolve the edit box issue? Hi all, Someone reported on JFW list (hosted on Groups.IO) that the user cannot interact with certain web content displayed in Edge 79 beta, along with a thread on Win10 forum about inability to interact with web content shown in Edge with other screen readers. This issue can be traced to the fact that, in Edge 79 (upcoming stable version), UI Automation is enabled (several reports were sent to Microsoft about this issue). Unfortunately, as an NVDA core developer (not me) notes, UIA implementation in Chromium-based web browsers (including Edge) isn’t solid yet. To work around this for now, you need to disable UIA support in Edge and other Chromium-based web browsers (if your browser exposes this option). To do so in Edge 79: - Start new Microsoft Edge (not the old one).
- From address omnibox (Alt+D), type “edge://flags” (without quotes and as exactly as shown) and press Enter.
- Type “UI Automation” into “search flags” and press Tab to move through resulting content (no, DO NOT PRESS ENTER AFTER TYPING FLAGS!).
- Go to “Native UI Automation” combo box and select “disabled”.
- Press Tab to go to “Restart” button and click it.
Screen reader specifics: - Narrator: supports native UI Automation
- JAWS: works better with native UI Automation off
- NVDA: works better with UI Automation off and a fix is being developed
- Other screen readers: contact vendors
Cheers, Joseph
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function key row on keyboard stopped working
With Windows 10, Jaws 2020 and an HP laptop I have a Magic keyboard attached thru a hub. The function keys and all other top row of keys have stopped responding. The board has some years on it. I assume it has worn out. Just checking to
see iif there might be something fixable that I don’t know about.
Stan
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Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...
Thanks! Will this resolve the edit box issue?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: FW: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge... Hi all, Someone reported on JFW list (hosted on Groups.IO) that the user cannot interact with certain web content displayed in Edge 79 beta, along with a thread on Win10 forum about inability to interact with web content shown in Edge with other screen readers. This issue can be traced to the fact that, in Edge 79 (upcoming stable version), UI Automation is enabled (several reports were sent to Microsoft about this issue). Unfortunately, as an NVDA core developer (not me) notes, UIA implementation in Chromium-based web browsers (including Edge) isn’t solid yet. To work around this for now, you need to disable UIA support in Edge and other Chromium-based web browsers (if your browser exposes this option). To do so in Edge 79: - Start new Microsoft Edge (not the old one).
- From address omnibox (Alt+D), type “edge://flags” (without quotes and as exactly as shown) and press Enter.
- Type “UI Automation” into “search flags” and press Tab to move through resulting content (no, DO NOT PRESS ENTER AFTER TYPING FLAGS!).
- Go to “Native UI Automation” combo box and select “disabled”.
- Press Tab to go to “Restart” button and click it.
Screen reader specifics: - Narrator: supports native UI Automation
- JAWS: works better with native UI Automation off
- NVDA: works better with UI Automation off and a fix is being developed
- Other screen readers: contact vendors
Cheers, Joseph
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Seeking Jackie McBride
Good afternoon list,
As the subject says, I'm looking to connect with Jackie McBride. If she could contact me, or if anyone has her contact info, I'd really appreciate a chat with her.
Thanks so much,
Sarah
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Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys. Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said: ---------------------------------------- Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
Hi Alison!
About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.� I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.
HTH,
Richard
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.
HTH,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <<mailto:chrisalismay@gmail.com>chrisalismay@gmail.com> wrote:

I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison
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Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
being a jaws user since jaws 2.0 this problem has been around since then, lol! I always can get the keys to unstick by pressing both afending keys at the same time several times and the problem goes away. Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:30 PM, CJ &AA MAY said: ---------------------------------------- For me it is usually the alt and the windows key, although occasionally the control key. Jiggling does no good at all with the alt key and I just have to keep alt-tabbing into and out of the app until it behaves, although jiggling the windows key or the control key is usually sufficient to rid myself of it.
Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: 13 January 2020 17:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
Hi,
For me, it is usually the control key or the Alt key. I usually hold down the offending key and tap escape a couple times and that usually does the trick. HTH
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:36 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
I don't think it is windows, I've noticed this off and on for years, it has something to do with the keyboard controller circuitry. No need to restart, just pound on the offending keys, both left and right keys, if you have them a few times and it will fix itself.
On 1/13/2020 09:14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi Alison!
About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.� I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.
HTH,
Richard
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.
HTH,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <<mailto:chrisalismay@gmail.com>chrisalismay@gmail.com> wrote:

I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison
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Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself. But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens. Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet. Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down Hi Alison! About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.” I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart. HTH, Richard The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them. I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed. I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version. Alison First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem. Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue. The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021. Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version. You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down? Alison
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Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
You are right, re-starting does nothing. I hadn’t thought to try jiggling the alternative alt key, however, so will see if this helps. Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: 13 January 2020 17:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down I don't think it is windows, I've noticed this off and on for years, it has something to do with the keyboard controller circuitry. No need to restart, just pound on the offending keys, both left and right keys, if you have them a few times and it will fix itself. On 1/13/2020 09:14, Richard B. McDonald wrote: Hi Alison! About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.” I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart. HTH, Richard The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them. I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed. I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version. Alison First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem. Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue. The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021. Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version. You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down? Alison
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Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
For me it is usually the alt and the windows key, although occasionally the control key. Jiggling does no good at all with the alt key and I just have to keep alt-tabbing into and out of the app until it behaves, although jiggling the windows key or the control key is usually sufficient to rid myself of it. Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: 13 January 2020 17:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down Hi, For me, it is usually the control key or the Alt key. I usually hold down the offending key and tap escape a couple times and that usually does the trick. HTH I don't think it is windows, I've noticed this off and on for years, it has something to do with the keyboard controller circuitry. No need to restart, just pound on the offending keys, both left and right keys, if you have them a few times and it will fix itself. On 1/13/2020 09:14, Richard B. McDonald wrote: Hi Alison! About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.” I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart. HTH, Richard The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them. I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed. I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version. Alison First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem. Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue. The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021. Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version. You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down? Alison
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Re: upgrading Jaws
Hello yes one year subscription for 9999 ear or you can purchase the subscription for 2-5 years Of the Jaws subscription. Suppressing berries on how many years you purchase on the subscription. Finally I went to note that the subscription is only for the home version of jobs and not for the professional version. If you need the professional version then you have to buy it outright. Otherwise you can do the subscription and it will Work time.
Another option is the subscription version is available in the US for$99
per year You always have the latest version But if you don't renew the
subscription, your current version converts to a demo..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>a friend of my sister is looking to get back in to using JAWS with
> Windows 10, but I'm not sure if she's several versions behind or never
> used JAWS before. if I tell her if she can wait til the FS/VFO S&S
> summer special, would she be able to save quite a bit on a first time
> purchase if she never used JAWS before?
>
> how would one know if there is going to be a special, and when will the
> upcoming special begin?
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Edward Green [mailto:ergreen1981@...]
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Date: Monday, January 13, 2020, 3:07 AM
> Subject: upgrading Jaws
> Hi Alison,
>
> If you can hang on, I'd wait for the Freedom Scientific/VFO/Sight and
> Sound summer special, and buy a new JAWS licence outright. This is
> likely to be significantly cheaper if previous years' pricing is
> anything to go by.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
> On 12 Jan 2020, at 17:55, Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@...> wrote:
>
> I second Richard on all accounts.
> Did you try cleaning between the keys? I use a small amount of rubbing
> alcohol as it evaporates after a short time and will not damage any
> sticky areas.
> I am using JAWS 2020 and enjoy it. I did the $90/year subscription.
> Again, your situation with JAWS is based on affordability.
> Hope this helps.
> Vaughn
>
> On 1/12/20, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:
> First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not
> be
> a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve
> your problem.
> Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
> The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would
> need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing
> them
> in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
> Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump
> right
> into the 2020 version.
> You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
> situation.
> HTH,
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:
>
>
> I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now
> like
> to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you
> want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current
> version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key
> appearing as jammed down?
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Kindly,
> Vaughn Brown
> Vaughn's Percussionship
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> 360-904-8432
> http://www.vaughnbrown.net
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