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moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Dave Durber
 


Alison:
 
In addition to the ideas which have been suggested. unload and reload JFW. Also restart the computer.
 
My personal opinion for what it is worth, I do not think that your problem has anything to do with the Sticky Key function. In order for the Sticky Key function to be activated using the keyboard, either the left or right shift key needs to be tapped rapidly 5 times in succession.
 
HTH:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

I discovered that this actually works with both shift keys, incidentally, even though it didn't solve my problem unfortunately.
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
down, I have seen this before as well. Most
often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or
why this happens. For me, it is not a
mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
think it has something to do with something like
“sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague recollection
that a certain combination of keystrokes in
Windows causes keys to act like they are always
pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
this without knowing or intending to do so. For
me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before
Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like
they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at
$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes
the most sense in your situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

I was so excited to read your message and sure enough, press the shift key 5 times certainly gives you the ption to switch off sticky keys, however, unfortunately it didn't solve my problem. What a shame!
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: 13 January 2020 21:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem
but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys
functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard
itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key,
so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
down, I have seen this before as well. Most
often, it is either or both of the alt and
windows keys. I have never figured out how or
why this happens. For me, it is not a
mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
stuck down due to something like a crumb. I
think it has something to do with something like
“sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague recollection
that a certain combination of keystrokes in
Windows causes keys to act like they are always
pressed down. I do not know what that
combination is. But, apparently one can trigger
this without knowing or intending to do so. For
me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before
Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
where the computer behaves as though the alt key
or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison


From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like
they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
2020, but since you get a little better deal
doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at
$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes
the most sense in your situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
<<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
you want. How many would I need to have the
current version? Would the current version get
rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

No, I haven’t tried that, but will. However, my gut feeling is that the problem is not a mechanical or physical one, why else does this never occur when using the alt key when using internet explorer?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Zeigler
Sent: 14 January 2020 07:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

hello have you tried using a can of compressed air to try to any dust or debris out of the keyboard? Sometimes when I have a key get stuck sent will 6 the prothom. Please let me know if you've tried that to fix the problem.
Chris

 

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 4:58 PM ratshtron <northstarr1950@...> wrote:

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right
shift key 5 times and then answer no to the
dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
>Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t
>seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are
>right that it is something to do with
>sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t
>anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
>But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the
>alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
>Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
>Alison
>
>
>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
>Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
>To: main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
>
>Hi Alison!
>
>About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
>down, I have seen this before as well.  Most
>often, it is either or both of the alt and
>windows keys.  I have never figured out how or
>why this happens.  For me, it is not a
>mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
>stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I
>think it has something to do with something like
>“sticky keys.â€&#65533;  I have a vague recollection
>that a certain combination of keystrokes in
>Windows causes keys to act like they are always
>pressed down.  I do not know what that
>combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger
>this without knowing or intending to do so.  For
>me, the problem goes away after a restart.
>
>HTH,
>Richard
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
>behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
>I had a feeling that this was discussed before
>Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
>where the computer behaves as though the alt key
>or windows key is still depressed.
>I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
>the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
>advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
>it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
>upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
>Alison
>
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>First, the problem with the keys acting like
>they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
>no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
>Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
>The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
>just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
>2020, but since you get a little better deal
>doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
>Or, you could go with the subscription model at
>$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
>You'll have to do the math to see which makes
>the most sense in your situation.
>HTH,
>
>
>
>Richard
>"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
>in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
>
>
>On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
><<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:
>
>
>I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
>Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
>price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
>you want. How many would I need to have the
>current version? Would the current version get
>rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
>windows key appearing as jammed down?
>Alison
>
>
----------------------------------------



moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Christopher Zeigler
 

hello have you tried using a can of compressed air to try to any dust or debris out of the keyboard? Sometimes when I have a key get stuck sent will 6 the prothom. Please let me know if you've tried that to fix the problem.
Chris


On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 4:58 PM ratshtron <northstarr1950@...> wrote:
if it is sticky keys, you can press the right
shift key 5 times and then answer no to the
dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
>Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t
>seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are
>right that it is something to do with
>sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t
>anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
>But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the
>alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
>Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
>Alison
>
>
>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
>Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
>To: main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down
>
>Hi Alison!
>
>About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck
>down, I have seen this before as well.  Most
>often, it is either or both of the alt and
>windows keys.  I have never figured out how or
>why this happens.  For me, it is not a
>mechanical thing, like the keys physically being
>stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I
>think it has something to do with something like
>“sticky keys.â€&#65533;  I have a vague recollection
>that a certain combination of keystrokes in
>Windows causes keys to act like they are always
>pressed down.  I do not know what that
>combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger
>this without knowing or intending to do so.  For
>me, the problem goes away after a restart.
>
>HTH,
>Richard
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>The keys don’t actually get stuck down but
>behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
>I had a feeling that this was discussed before
>Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue
>where the computer behaves as though the alt key
>or windows key is still depressed.
>I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till
>the summer before upgrading Jaws and take
>advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as
>it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to
>upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
>Alison
>
>
>From:
><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
><<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
>To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws
>
>First, the problem with the keys acting like
>they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so
>no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
>Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
>The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have
>just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and
>2020, but since you get a little better deal
>doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
>Or, you could go with the subscription model at
>$90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
>You'll have to do the math to see which makes
>the most sense in your situation.
>HTH,
>
>
>
>Richard
>"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life
>in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
>
>
>On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY
><<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:
>
>
>I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to
>Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the
>price varies dependent upon how many upgrades
>you want. How many would I need to have the
>current version? Would the current version get
>rid of this problem I am having with the alt and
>windows key appearing as jammed down?
>Alison
>
>
----------------------------------------




moderated Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

Hi,

In theory, it should.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

Thanks!

 

Will this resolve the edit box issue?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: FW: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:25 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge... #ChromiumEdge

 

Hi all,

 

Someone reported on JFW list (hosted on Groups.IO) that the user cannot interact with certain web content displayed in Edge 79 beta, along with a thread on Win10 forum about inability to interact with web content shown in Edge with other screen readers. This issue can be traced to the fact that, in Edge 79 (upcoming stable version), UI Automation is enabled (several reports were sent to Microsoft about this issue). Unfortunately, as an NVDA core developer (not me) notes, UIA implementation in Chromium-based web browsers (including Edge) isn’t solid yet.

 

To work around this for now, you need to disable UIA support in Edge and other Chromium-based web browsers (if your browser exposes this option). To do so in Edge 79:

 

  1. Start new Microsoft Edge (not the old one).
  2. From address omnibox (Alt+D), type “edge://flags” (without quotes and as exactly as shown) and press Enter.
  3. Type “UI Automation” into “search flags” and press Tab to move through resulting content (no, DO NOT PRESS ENTER AFTER TYPING FLAGS!).
  4. Go to “Native UI Automation” combo box and select “disabled”.
  5. Press Tab to go to “Restart” button and click it.

 

Screen reader specifics:

 

  • Narrator: supports native UI Automation
  • JAWS: works better with native UI Automation off
  • NVDA: works better with UI Automation off and a fix is being developed
  • Other screen readers: contact vendors

 

Cheers,

Joseph

moderated function key row on keyboard stopped working

Stan Holdeman
 

With Windows 10, Jaws 2020  and an HP laptop I have a Magic keyboard attached thru a hub. The function keys and all other top row of keys have stopped responding. The board has some years on it. I assume it has worn out. Just checking to see iif there might be something fixable that I don’t know about.

 


Stan

 

moderated Re: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

clarence carter
 

Thanks!

 

Will this resolve the edit box issue?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: FW: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

 

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:25 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge... #ChromiumEdge

 

Hi all,

 

Someone reported on JFW list (hosted on Groups.IO) that the user cannot interact with certain web content displayed in Edge 79 beta, along with a thread on Win10 forum about inability to interact with web content shown in Edge with other screen readers. This issue can be traced to the fact that, in Edge 79 (upcoming stable version), UI Automation is enabled (several reports were sent to Microsoft about this issue). Unfortunately, as an NVDA core developer (not me) notes, UIA implementation in Chromium-based web browsers (including Edge) isn’t solid yet.

 

To work around this for now, you need to disable UIA support in Edge and other Chromium-based web browsers (if your browser exposes this option). To do so in Edge 79:

 

  1. Start new Microsoft Edge (not the old one).
  2. From address omnibox (Alt+D), type “edge://flags” (without quotes and as exactly as shown) and press Enter.
  3. Type “UI Automation” into “search flags” and press Tab to move through resulting content (no, DO NOT PRESS ENTER AFTER TYPING FLAGS!).
  4. Go to “Native UI Automation” combo box and select “disabled”.
  5. Press Tab to go to “Restart” button and click it.

 

Screen reader specifics:

 

  • Narrator: supports native UI Automation
  • JAWS: works better with native UI Automation off
  • NVDA: works better with UI Automation off and a fix is being developed
  • Other screen readers: contact vendors

 

Cheers,

Joseph

moderated Seeking Jackie McBride

Rayn Darren
 

Good afternoon list,

As the subject says, I'm looking to connect with Jackie McBride. If she could contact me, or if anyone has her contact info, I'd really appreciate a chat with her.

Thanks so much,

Sarah

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

ratshtron
 

if it is sticky keys, you can press the right shift key 5 times and then answer no to the dialog. this will turn off sticky keys.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:36 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.
But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.
Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.
Alison


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison


From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

ratshtron
 

being a jaws user since jaws 2.0 this problem has been around since then, lol! I always can get the keys to unstick by pressing both afending keys at the same time several times and the problem goes away.


Legend has it that on Monday 1/13/20 03:30 PM, CJ &AA MAY said:
----------------------------------------
For me it is usually the alt and the windows key, although occasionally the control key. Jiggling does no good at all with the alt key and I just have to keep alt-tabbing into and out of the app until it behaves, although jiggling the windows key or the control key is usually sufficient to rid myself of it.
Alison

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: 13 January 2020 17:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

Hi,

For me, it is usually the control key or the Alt key. I usually hold down the offending key and tap escape a couple times and that usually does the trick. HTH

From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:36 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down


I don't think it is windows, I've noticed this off and on for years, it has something to do with the keyboard controller circuitry. No need to restart, just pound on the offending keys, both left and right keys, if you have them a few times and it will fix itself.




On 1/13/2020 09:14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi Alison!

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well. Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys. I have never figured out how or why this happens. For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb. I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.â€&#65533; I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down. I do not know what that combination is. But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so. For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

HTH,
Richard

From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.
I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.
I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.
Alison


From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <<mailto:chrisalismay@...>chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?
Alison

----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

Unfortunately, Richard, re-starting doesn’t seem to solve my problem but I suspect you are right that it is something to do with sticky-keys functionality; it definitely isn’t anything wrong with the keyboard itself.

But I se a suggestion about trying to jiggle the alternative alt key, so will try this the next time it happens.

Interestingly enough, it never happens when I am using the internet.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

You are right, re-starting does nothing. I hadn’t thought to try jiggling the alternative alt key, however, so will see if this helps.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: 13 January 2020 17:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I don't think it is windows, I've noticed  this off and on for years, it has something to do with the keyboard controller circuitry.  No need to restart, just pound on the offending keys, both left and right keys, if you have them a few times and it will fix itself.

 

 

On 1/13/2020 09:14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

CJ &AA MAY
 

For me it is usually the alt and the windows key, although occasionally the control key. Jiggling does no good at all with the alt key and I just have to keep alt-tabbing into and out of the app until it behaves, although jiggling the windows key or the control key is usually sufficient to rid myself of it.

Alison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: 13 January 2020 17:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

Hi,

 

For me, it is usually the control key or the Alt key. I usually hold down the offending key and tap escape a couple times and that usually does the trick. HTH

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I don't think it is windows, I've noticed  this off and on for years, it has something to do with the keyboard controller circuitry.  No need to restart, just pound on the offending keys, both left and right keys, if you have them a few times and it will fix itself.

 

 

On 1/13/2020 09:14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: upgrading Jaws

Christopher Zeigler
 

Hello yes one year subscription for 9999 ear or you can purchase the subscription for 2-5 years Of the Jaws subscription. Suppressing berries on how many years you purchase on the subscription. Finally I went to note that the subscription is only for the home version of jobs and not for the professional version. If you need the professional version then you have to buy it outright. Otherwise you can do the subscription and it will Work time.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 12:06 PM Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:
Another option is the subscription version is available  in the US for$99
per year You always have the latest version But if you don't renew the
subscription, your current version converts to a demo..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws


>a friend of my sister is looking to get back in to using JAWS with
> Windows 10, but I'm not sure if she's several versions behind or never
> used JAWS before. if I tell her if she can wait til the FS/VFO S&S
> summer special, would she be able to save quite a bit on a first time
> purchase if she never used JAWS before?
>
> how would one know if there is going to be a special, and when will the
> upcoming special begin?
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Edward Green [mailto:ergreen1981@...]
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Date: Monday, January 13, 2020, 3:07 AM
> Subject: upgrading Jaws
> Hi Alison,
>
> If you can hang on, I'd wait for the Freedom Scientific/VFO/Sight and
> Sound summer special, and buy a new JAWS licence outright. This is
> likely to be significantly cheaper if previous years' pricing is
> anything to go by.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
> On 12 Jan 2020, at 17:55, Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@...> wrote:
>
> I second Richard on all accounts.
> Did you try cleaning between the keys? I use a small amount of rubbing
> alcohol as it evaporates after a short time and will not damage any
> sticky areas.
> I am using JAWS 2020 and enjoy it. I did the $90/year subscription.
> Again, your situation with JAWS is based on affordability.
> Hope this helps.
> Vaughn
>
> On 1/12/20, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:
> First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not
> be
> a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve
> your problem.
> Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
> The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would
> need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing
> them
> in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
> Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump
> right
> into the 2020 version.
> You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
> situation.
> HTH,
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now
> like
> to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you
> want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current
> version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key
> appearing as jammed down?
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Kindly,
> Vaughn Brown
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>




moderated Re: MS EXCEL formula

Van Lant, Robin
 

No, it's Control D, which is the paste down function. This command will copy whatever is in the cell above and, if a formula, will update the cell references as needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

the keystroke for step 3 should be control c as in copy.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
[mailto:Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020, 10:45 AM
Subject: MS EXCEL formula
I’ll give a crack at explaining this to build on what Anne was saying:
For simplicity in my mind, I’m going to approach this slightly different from Anne.

I am assuming that cell D14 has your first dollar amount to add to the running balance in Column E.
Step 1. Go to cell E14 and type “=D14”. This is just pulling in the value from column D into column E for this line item as the first item in your running balance.
Step 2: go down to Cell E15. This is the first place where you’ll be adding a new line item to your running balance. Your formula should be “=E14+D15”. This adds the value of the new line item to the balance listed in the cell above.
Step 3. Go to cell E16 and press Control+D , which will copy the above formula into this cell, adjusting the cell references as needed. You can do this same keystroke all the way down Column E to build that running balance.

There are other methods, but you seem to be a novice Excel user, so I’m leaving this simple.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

Richard,

Is there a formula where the running balance/total can be in column E
for example? Example: row 14 column D has $22.50 and this should be seen
in same row 14 but column E. The next row, 15, has in column D $220.59
and row 15, column E should have the running total or sum. This would go
down all rows and columns. Is this possible or just the total somewhere
at the bottom cell where the total would be seen?

Thank you,

Rick


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

You can put the formula anywhere in column e that you want the total to be.
The formula should be =sum(d14:d100)
Equals sum tells excel that you want to add numbers together.
open parenthesis d14 colon d100 close parenthesis tells it to add d14
through d100.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Rick Mladek
<hmladek@...<mailto:hmladek@...>> wrote:

Hi all,

I am on an EXCEL spreadsheet, putting together a list of deductions for
upcoming tax season.

Can anyone please explain how I add a formula to add up costs of items
as a running total.

The costs are in column D and I am wanting the running balance in column
E. Where do I put this formula and pardon my extreme ignorance here,
what formula would I put in? The sum of these costs as they go down the
column.

The costs start on row 14 column D and I would like this to go down the
entire column, lets say to row 100 to be safe. Can someone please tell
me the formula to put in and where this is embedded?

Thank you,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 2019.1912.1 and Office 2019.

Thanks for your help,

Rick




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moderated Re: MS EXCEL formula

Rick Mladek
 

Robin, Thank you, your help did what was needed. I appreciate your help. To all who offered assistance, I do thank you all, as well.

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

 

I’ll give a crack at explaining this to build on what Anne was saying:

For simplicity in my mind, I’m going to approach this slightly different from Anne.

 

I am assuming that cell D14 has your first dollar amount to add to the running balance in Column E.

Step 1.  Go to cell E14 and type “=D14”.  This is just pulling in the value from column D into column E for this line item as the first item in your running balance.

Step 2: go down to Cell E15.  This is the first place where you’ll be adding a new line item to your running balance. Your formula should be “=E14+D15”.  This adds the value of the new line item to the balance listed in the cell above.

Step 3.  Go to cell E16 and press Control+D , which will copy the above formula into this cell, adjusting the cell references as needed.  You can do this same keystroke all the way down Column E to build that running balance. 

 

There are other methods, but you seem to be a novice Excel user, so I’m leaving this simple.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

 

Richard,

 

Is there a formula where the running balance/total can be in column E for example? Example: row 14 column D has $22.50 and this should be seen in same row 14 but column E. The next row, 15, has in column D $220.59 and row 15, column E should have the running total or sum. This would go down all rows and columns. Is this possible or just the total somewhere at the bottom cell where the total would be seen?

 

Thank you,

 

Rick

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

 

You can put the formula anywhere in column e that you want the total to be.

The formula should be =sum(d14:d100) 

Equals sum tells excel that you want to add numbers together.

open parenthesis d14 colon d100 close parenthesis tells it to add d14 through d100.

HTH,

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:



Hi all,

 

I am on an EXCEL spreadsheet, putting together a list of deductions for upcoming tax season.

 

Can anyone please explain how I add a formula to add up costs of items as a running total.

 

The costs are in column D and I am wanting the running balance in column E. Where do I put this formula and pardon my extreme ignorance here, what formula would I put in? The sum of these costs as they go down the column.

 

The costs start on row 14 column D and I would like this to go down the entire column, lets say to row 100 to be safe. Can someone please tell me the formula to put in and where this is embedded?

 

Thank you,

 

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 2019.1912.1 and Office 2019.

 

Thanks for your help,

 

Rick

 



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moderated Re: MS EXCEL formula

Richard Turner
 

Actually I think Control+d for duplicate works.
I tried it because I wondered the same thing.




Richard
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On Jan 13, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

the keystroke for step 3 should be control c as in copy.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
[mailto:Robin_Van_Lant@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020, 10:45 AM
Subject: MS EXCEL formula
I’ll give a crack at explaining this to build on what Anne was saying:
For simplicity in my mind, I’m going to approach this slightly different
from Anne.

I am assuming that cell D14 has your first dollar amount to add to the
running balance in Column E.
Step 1.  Go to cell E14 and type “=D14”.  This is just pulling in the
value from column D into column E for this line item as the first item
in your running balance.
Step 2: go down to Cell E15.  This is the first place where you’ll be
adding a new line item to your running balance. Your formula should be
“=E14+D15”.  This adds the value of the new line item to the balance
listed in the cell above.
Step 3.  Go to cell E16 and press Control+D , which will copy the above
formula into this cell, adjusting the cell references as needed.  You
can do this same keystroke all the way down Column E to build that
running balance.

There are other methods, but you seem to be a novice Excel user, so I’m
leaving this simple.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

Richard,

Is there a formula where the running balance/total can be in column E
for example? Example: row 14 column D has $22.50 and this should be seen
in same row 14 but column E. The next row, 15, has in column D $220.59
and row 15, column E should have the running total or sum. This would go
down all rows and columns. Is this possible or just the total somewhere
at the bottom cell where the total would be seen?

Thank you,

Rick


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

You can put the formula anywhere in column e that you want the total to be.
The formula should be =sum(d14:d100)
Equals sum tells excel that you want to add numbers together.
open parenthesis d14 colon d100 close parenthesis tells it to add d14
through d100.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Rick Mladek
<hmladek@...<mailto:hmladek@...>> wrote:

Hi all,

I am on an EXCEL spreadsheet, putting together a list of deductions for
upcoming tax season.

Can anyone please explain how I add a formula to add up costs of items
as a running total.

The costs are in column D and I am wanting the running balance in column
E. Where do I put this formula and pardon my extreme ignorance here,
what formula would I put in? The sum of these costs as they go down the
column.

The costs start on row 14 column D and I would like this to go down the
entire column, lets say to row 100 to be safe. Can someone please tell
me the formula to put in and where this is embedded?

Thank you,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 2019.1912.1 and Office 2019.

Thanks for your help,

Rick




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moderated Re: MS EXCEL formula

Rick Mladek
 

Hi there, Thank you for helping me. I use such applications/programs but am so very ignorant in doing so. I’ll give your tips a try and let you know how I come out.

 

Thank you again,

 

Rick

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

 

I’ll give a crack at explaining this to build on what Anne was saying:

For simplicity in my mind, I’m going to approach this slightly different from Anne.

 

I am assuming that cell D14 has your first dollar amount to add to the running balance in Column E.

Step 1.  Go to cell E14 and type “=D14”.  This is just pulling in the value from column D into column E for this line item as the first item in your running balance.

Step 2: go down to Cell E15.  This is the first place where you’ll be adding a new line item to your running balance. Your formula should be “=E14+D15”.  This adds the value of the new line item to the balance listed in the cell above.

Step 3.  Go to cell E16 and press Control+D , which will copy the above formula into this cell, adjusting the cell references as needed.  You can do this same keystroke all the way down Column E to build that running balance. 

 

There are other methods, but you seem to be a novice Excel user, so I’m leaving this simple.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

 

Richard,

 

Is there a formula where the running balance/total can be in column E for example? Example: row 14 column D has $22.50 and this should be seen in same row 14 but column E. The next row, 15, has in column D $220.59 and row 15, column E should have the running total or sum. This would go down all rows and columns. Is this possible or just the total somewhere at the bottom cell where the total would be seen?

 

Thank you,

 

Rick

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS EXCEL formula

 

You can put the formula anywhere in column e that you want the total to be.

The formula should be =sum(d14:d100) 

Equals sum tells excel that you want to add numbers together.

open parenthesis d14 colon d100 close parenthesis tells it to add d14 through d100.

HTH,

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:



Hi all,

 

I am on an EXCEL spreadsheet, putting together a list of deductions for upcoming tax season.

 

Can anyone please explain how I add a formula to add up costs of items as a running total.

 

The costs are in column D and I am wanting the running balance in column E. Where do I put this formula and pardon my extreme ignorance here, what formula would I put in? The sum of these costs as they go down the column.

 

The costs start on row 14 column D and I would like this to go down the entire column, lets say to row 100 to be safe. Can someone please tell me the formula to put in and where this is embedded?

 

Thank you,

 

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 2019.1912.1 and Office 2019.

 

Thanks for your help,

 

Rick

 



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moderated Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi,

 

For me, it is usually the control key or the Alt key. I usually hold down the offending key and tap escape a couple times and that usually does the trick. HTH

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keys Seemingly Stuck Down

 

I don't think it is windows, I've noticed  this off and on for years, it has something to do with the keyboard controller circuitry.  No need to restart, just pound on the offending keys, both left and right keys, if you have them a few times and it will fix itself.

 

 

On 1/13/2020 09:14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Hi Alison!

 

About your issue with keys seemingly being stuck down, I have seen this before as well.  Most often, it is either or both of the alt and windows keys.  I have never figured out how or why this happens.  For me, it is not a mechanical thing, like the keys physically being stuck down due to something like a crumb.  I think it has something to do with something like “sticky keys.”  I have a vague recollection that a certain combination of keystrokes in Windows causes keys to act like they are always pressed down.  I do not know what that combination is.  But, apparently one can trigger this without knowing or intending to do so.  For me, the problem goes away after a restart.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

The keys don’t actually get stuck down but behave as though they are. We have tried cleaning them.

I had a feeling that this was discussed before Christmas and I wasn’t alone with this issue where the computer behaves as though the alt key or windows key is still depressed.

I think I will take Ed’s advice and wait till the summer before upgrading Jaws and take advantage of Sight and Sound’s Summer Deal as it looks as if it will cost me around £350 to upgrade from Jaws 18 to the current version.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 12 January 2020 17:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: upgrading Jaws

 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.

Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.

The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.

Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.

You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison