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moderated latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

tom x
 

                Hi,

 

Using latest W10 64bit and Jaws 2020,Outlook 2013 and latest Thunderbird.

 

I am having a problem which is driving me nuts when reading or arrowing down through a message.  Jaws will say something like 

table with 1 columns and 1 rows nesting level 3

While the table size and nesting level may change, the level of annoyance does not.

 

This problem has only been noticed since updating to the latest version of Jaws.

 

Can someone please explain how to change Jaw's behaviour when reading emails?

 

Thanks

 

Tom
moderated Re: It's new computer time and I am looking for advice.

Mike B
 

Hi Jim,
 
The Jaws-Users list was shutdown many months ago.  The new email list / group that was started to take its place is called, jfw-users@groups.io, and you can subscribe to this list using the link below.
 
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:40 PM
Subject: It's new computer time and I am looking for advice.

Hi all,

It’s new computer time, and here is what I want on the computer.

1.       A numeric key pad with decent separation between it, and the rest of the keyboard.

2.       An optical disk drive.

3.       At least an intel core 5 processor,

4.       Head phone jack, and I guess these days it’s a combo jack with microphone.

5.       Decent battery life.

6.       And anything else you might recommend. And any thoughts will be appreciated.

7.       Jim

 
moderated Re: It's new computer time and I am looking for advice.

Brian K. Lingard
 

Shalom Bill & List:

Trust you had a great Hanukkah. I am Reform. Like how I can choose my observance level and my maker will understand.

Sounds like a wonderful large print keyboard.

main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Bill Tessore
Sent: Monday, Jamari\]up keyboard.

Shalom Brian K. Lingard, PS I am a convert. Like the outlook on life. The goyem would be better off if they had a steaming hot cup of tea or coffee and a light smack with their bible studies. ary 6, 2020 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: It's new computer time and I am looking for advice.

 

I got a USB enabled ZoomText keyboard for my laptop . The keys are much more well separated, larger than the laptop’s and the characters are bold, large, and highly contrasted with the black keys.

 

Shalom,

 

Bill Tessore

 

 



On Jan 6, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:



Hi all,

It’s new computer time, and here is what I want on the computer.

1.       A numeric key pad with decent separation between it, and the rest of the keyboard.

2.       An optical disk drives.

3.       At least an intel core 5 processor,

4.       Head phone jack, and I guess these days it’s a combo jack with microphone.

5.       Decent battery life.

6.       And anything else you might recommend. And any thoughts will be appreciated.

7.       Jim

 
moderated Re: It's new computer time and I am looking for advice.

Bill Tessore
 

I got a USB enabled ZoomText keyboard for my laptop . The keys are much more well separated, larger than the laptop’s and the characters are bold, large andhighly contrasted with the black keys.


Shalom,

Bill Tessore
billtessore@...



On Jan 6, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:



Hi all,

It’s new computer time, and here is what I want on the computer.

1.       A numeric key pad with decent separation between it, and the rest of the keyboard.

2.       An optical disk drive.

3.       At least an intel core 5 processor,

4.       Head phone jack, and I guess these days it’s a combo jack with microphone.

5.       Decent battery life.

6.       And anything else you might recommend. And any thoughts will be appreciated.

7.       Jim

 
moderated It's new computer time and I am looking for advice.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all,

It’s new computer time, and here is what I want on the computer.

1.       A numeric key pad with decent separation between it, and the rest of the keyboard.

2.       An optical disk drive.

3.       At least an intel core 5 processor,

4.       Head phone jack, and I guess these days it’s a combo jack with microphone.

5.       Decent battery life.

6.       And anything else you might recommend. And any thoughts will be appreciated.

7.       Jim

 
moderated Re: Focus 40, not really needing Bluetooth for PC

JM Casey
 

Well, I connect mine to the desktop via USB, but it’d be nice to use blue and not have to always be at the computer, you know. I could take it anywhere in my apartment except the bedroom. Anyway, I too will be getting an adaptor at some point I suppose.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: January 6, 2020 9:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Focus 40, not really needing Bluetooth for PC
Importance: High

 

Hello,

I am not sure about having a Bluetooth adapter for connecting the Focus 40 Braille display to the PC. However, if you have its USB cable, you can connect it to the USB port on your pc. I will attach a document which might help with some things—not finding the USB Bluetooth connector, though, I’m afraid. Yet, I hope this helps with other Focus problems you might have in the future

Ashleigh S. Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Juan Hernandez
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: bluetooth adapters

 

Hi All,

I wanted to connect my focus 40 via Bluetooth to my desktop.  Can someone recommend a good Bluetooth usb dongle that would work?

Best,

Juan

 
moderated Git Bash and jaws problems

Phillip Gross
 

When trying to use git bash with jaws I can’t read the output. In other words I can go back and see the commands I enter but can’t see the output it returns. The only time I am able to read the output is when I use the git config –list command I can see my settings but for example if I try to generate an SSH key I can’t read anything. Has anyone else experienced this and if so do you have any suggestions? Thank you.
moderated Re: bluetooth adapters

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

Have you check to see if your computer is already cabable of adding a blutooth device?

If you actually don't have blutooth available, try to find a blutooth adapter that doesn't require you to insert a disk to load drivers. Sometimes these driver disk are not accessible. You will also want to be sure the blutooth adapter is a recent version so check the blutooth version you are wanting to blutooth.

Original message:

Hi All,
I wanted to connect my focus 40 via Bluetooth to my desktop. Can someone recommend a good Bluetooth usb dongle that would work?
Best,
Juan
moderated Focus 40, not really needing Bluetooth for PC

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,

I am not sure about having a Bluetooth adapter for connecting the Focus 40 Braille display to the PC. However, if you have its USB cable, you can connect it to the USB port on your pc. I will attach a document which might help with some things—not finding the USB Bluetooth connector, though, I’m afraid. Yet, I hope this helps with other Focus problems you might have in the future

Ashleigh S. Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Juan Hernandez
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: bluetooth adapters

 

Hi All,

I wanted to connect my focus 40 via Bluetooth to my desktop.  Can someone recommend a good Bluetooth usb dongle that would work?

Best,

Juan


 
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

James Bentley
 

I had this exact same problem with a new laptop that I purchased 3 months ago. And the same problem to a lesser degree on two older laptops.

Silenzio fixed all of my problems on all 3 laptops.

You can download it from here:

https://www.canadialog.com/articles/3411/the-sound-of-your-screen-reader-is-poor-and-sluggish-see-how-to-fix-it#site-navigation


James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Silenzio will fix that. It isn't jaws problem, it is your
sound card trying to save power in a stupid way.



On 1/6/2020 13:16, alia robinson wrote:
am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if something is playing continually in the background like music on low jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Cristóbal
 

Ah well, looks like someone in the thread below mentioned such an app.
Nevermind.
Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

I remember someone on one of these lists mentioning that they ran a small sound file with blank noise in the background in order to stop this funky behavior. I don't recall if they said that they used a special program for this or how they did it exactly, but I’m sure there are some folks on here who would also be aware of whatever type of program that can run such a task.
I don't use Bluetooth headphones on my laptop, so it wasn't something I paid all that much attention to at the time. See if something like that helps.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Yeah, that is a known issue. Prior to a recent Windows update, I would have recommended the aftershock headsets because they were working nicely for me, with almost zero latency. That is no longer the case -- they are now virtually unusable and all other headsets suffered from the same issues.




Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: alia robinson
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if something is playing continually in the background like music on low jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?
moderated bluetooth adapters

Juan Hernandez
 

Hi All,

I wanted to connect my focus 40 via Bluetooth to my desktop. Can someone recommend a good Bluetooth usb dongle that would work?

Best,

Juan
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Cristóbal
 

I remember someone on one of these lists mentioning that they ran a small sound file with blank noise in the background in order to stop this funky behavior. I don't recall if they said that they used a special program for this or how they did it exactly, but I’m sure there are some folks on here who would also be aware of whatever type of program that can run such a task.
I don't use Bluetooth headphones on my laptop, so it wasn't something I paid all that much attention to at the time. See if something like that helps.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Yeah, that is a known issue. Prior to a recent Windows update, I would have recommended the aftershock headsets because they were working nicely for me, with almost zero latency. That is no longer the case -- they are now virtually unusable and all other headsets suffered from the same issues.




Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: alia robinson
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if something is playing continually in the background like music on low jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with Bluetooth

Don Mauck
 

This just might do the trick. I've been dealing with the same behavior and that's exactly what my bluethhoth is doing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario <mrb620@...>
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Silenzio is a small utility that will continuously play a WAV file which will not let your computer's soundcard sleep.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.stefankiss.sk_programy_silenzio_Silenzio-5F1.0-5Fsetup.exe&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=EQ0xAgqxGediPFS2iJyMwtaJACO0PE04qO0-xFG1duE&m=hoagwRubPh3VgAsvrtpgor7BLGo9tDVug9g4Inw4UUM&s=l63tGNYHI0wKMwkWPMwyUKjBIlZC3fh6esrLHGRY98A&e=


-------- Original Message --------
From: Rod [mailto:rodalcidonis@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 6, 2020, 4:35 PM
Subject: jaws stuttering with bluetooth
What's that?





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

       Silenzio will fix that.  It isn't jaws problem, it is your sound card trying to save power in a stupid way.



On 1/6/2020 13:16, alia robinson wrote:
am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if something is playing continually in the background like music on low jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?








.
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Maria Campbell
 

Thanks Mario for your kind assistance, unlike the snide remarks of some.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 1/6/2020 5:13 PM, Mario wrote:
Silenzio is a small utility that will continuously play a WAV file which
will not let your computer's soundcard sleep.

http://www.stefankiss.sk/programy/silenzio/Silenzio_1.0_setup.exe


-------- Original Message --------
From: Rod [mailto:rodalcidonis@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 6, 2020, 4:35 PM
Subject: jaws stuttering with bluetooth
What's that?





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

       Silenzio will fix that.  It isn't jaws problem, it is your
sound card trying to save power in a stupid way.



On 1/6/2020 13:16, alia robinson wrote:
am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine
unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if
something is playing continually in the background like music on low
jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?








.
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Mario
 

Silenzio is a small utility that will continuously play a WAV file which
will not let your computer's soundcard sleep.

http://www.stefankiss.sk/programy/silenzio/Silenzio_1.0_setup.exe

-------- Original Message --------
From: Rod [mailto:rodalcidonis@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 6, 2020, 4:35 PM
Subject: jaws stuttering with bluetooth
What's that?





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

       Silenzio will fix that.  It isn't jaws problem, it is your
sound card trying to save power in a stupid way.



On 1/6/2020 13:16, alia robinson wrote:
am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine
unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if
something is playing continually in the background like music on low
jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?








.
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Rod
 

What's that?





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Silenzio will fix that. It isn't jaws problem, it is your
sound card trying to save power in a stupid way.



On 1/6/2020 13:16, alia robinson wrote:
am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if something is playing continually in the background like music on low jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Rod
 

Yeah, that is a known issue. Prior to a recent Windows update, I would have recommended the aftershock headsets because they were working nicely for me, with almost zero latency. That is no longer the case -- they are now virtually unusable and all other headsets suffered from the same issues.




Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: alia robinson
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if something is playing continually in the background like music on low jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?
moderated Re: jaws stuttering with bluetooth

Chris Hill
 

Of course it is accessible.  I'm blind, myself, and I am using it on two pc's.  One where the bluetooth headset tries to save power and one where the sound card does the same.

On 1/6/2020 13:37, Maria Campbell wrote:
Is this accessible?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 1/6/2020 2:28 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
    Silenzio will fix that.  It isn't jaws problem, it is your sound card trying to save power in a stupid way.



On 1/6/2020 13:16, alia robinson wrote:
am evaluating jaws for purchase on my husband’s computer. jaws is fine unless I use bluetooth then it cuts off words. music is great, and if something is playing continually in the background like music on low  jaws is fine. this is with every bluetooth headphone we own. ideas?
moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Richard B. McDonald
 

I tried your below, but it does not fix the problem.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

Have you tried not checking the start at logon, but check start after logon and set always for this user?

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Jan 5, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:



Hi!

 

I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019.  Recently, I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10.  After doing so, JAWS does not launch automatically upon startup.  For now, the PC has only one user account with no password.  As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes straight to the desktop.  I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.  Still, JAWS does not launch.

 

What is the solution to this?

 

Thanks,

Richard