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Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Rick Mladek
Hi, yes, all folders have been emptied first. Thanks nevertheless...
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 9:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Have you tried first deleting the messages from these folders and then deleting the folders? Not sure if this will help, but worth a try.
Russell
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Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Russell Solowoniuk
Have you tried first deleting the messages from these folders and then deleting the folders? Not sure if this will help, but worth a try.
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Russell
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Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Rick Mladek
Hi,
I truly doubt a config issue. I am set with Imap, not pop. I’ve tried doing this and even with Jaws closed and as I open Outlook again this morning, those 4 folders again in the trash folder. I am very lost to this for this does not happen on or with my laptop which is exact with all settings etc. as this desktop I’m presently at. One of those computer mysteries I must accept...
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 10:28 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
I guess this may depend a lot on how your email account is configured, e.g. POP3, IMAP, Exchange. I’d just call Microsoft Accessibility and ask them to take a look and see if they can figure out why this is happening.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Yes, they continue to reappear in the Trash folder of which I continuously delete them. This has been happening for quite some time and every day, I delete these from the trash folder... How do I stop this?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Hi all,
hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.
I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.
When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.
Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?
Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.
Rick
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Re: Silencing an alert in Thunderbird
Mario
is the message pane enabled? if so, disable it. problem gone? it did the
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trick for me.
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From: Norma A. Boge [mailto:naboge@mchsi.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Monday, December 30, 2019, 9:44 PM Subject: Silencing an alert in Thunderbird Hi group, I’m using Jaws 2020 with Thunderbird 68. When I arrow through messages in my Drafts folder, Jaws keeps saying “alert this is a draft message.” It repeats it so I can’t read all of the line I’m on. Anyone know how I can stop Jaws from reading this alert? Thanks, Norma
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seeking web experiences
Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
As I prepare my next book, to be titled something like the Complete guide to Browsing the Web with JAWS, I continue looking for resources to enrich the book. this means learning of sites which are problematic for any reason, and sites where users have found different quick keys to be beneficial. It's hard for one person to find all these! In this regard, I have questions in case anybody would like to contribute experience: 1. Looking for sites where you have found the use of navigation by region to be useful, perhaps more effective than navigation by heading. 2. Sites where you have found the use of any of these quick keys to be useful: O, W, Y, z, dash or equal sign. 3. Sites where using S or D for same or different elements gets you where you need to go efficiently. 4. Sites with forms that you couldn't complete, or only completed with great difficulty. 5. Sites where you could not read necessary tables.
Please write off-list to topdot@... if you have thoughts or contributions.
Thanks for considering.
Dean
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Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
I guess this may depend a lot on how your email account is configured, e.g. POP3, IMAP, Exchange. I’d just call Microsoft Accessibility and ask them to take a look and see if they can figure out why this is happening.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:28 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Yes, they continue to reappear in the Trash folder of which I continuously delete them. This has been happening for quite some time and every day, I delete these from the trash folder... How do I stop this?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Hi all,
hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.
I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.
When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.
Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?
Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.
Rick
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Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?
Hi Maria/all, Provided you have installed several keyboards, pressing alt and shift together cycles among them. I have six languages installed, so I use it all the time. With warmest greetings for the new year, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 12:36 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?
I don't find that when I press insert f11. Perhaps because I use only English?
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. On 12/28/2019 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
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Silencing an alert in Thunderbird
Norma A. Boge
Hi group,
I’m using Jaws 2020 with Thunderbird 68. When I arrow through messages in my Drafts folder, Jaws keeps saying “alert this is a draft message.” It repeats it so I can’t read all of the line I’m on. Anyone know how I can stop Jaws from reading this alert?
Thanks, Norma
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help
Mario
well, pressing insert+h will display the commands for the program but
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pressing insert+q is usually used to confirm if the default scripts are being loaded instead of the scripts ment for the program.
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From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Monday, December 30, 2019, 4:21 PM Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help I don't know anything about this program, but if the Jaws scripts are loaded and are well done, isn't insert+h the command to bring up the jaws keystrokes for the app you are in? Or insert+w? This is a wild guess. Richard 🖖 Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 1:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help where do you get scrips for this? Thanks, Keith On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@gmail.com> wrote: Excellent questions. And I do not have the answers to them all. Did you put the files for the accessible scheme in the scheme folder of BIAB? Vaughn On 12/29/19, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@wideband.net.au> wrote: hi thank you for letting me know nothing came out in my email. I have just purchased band in a box 2020 running with windows 10 64 bit and jaws 20190928 I have installed the scripts in jaws enu that I unzipped and placed the bbw.accessscheme in band in a box data folder. I have set Biab as discribed in the scripts html notes. having problems saving the scheme it keeps going back to defalt scheme. where can I get podcasts from a blind person's point of view? which can I get jaws hotkeys relating to the program? Many thanks. Michelle Stevens On 30 Dec 2019, at 7:26 am, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote: There is nothing in your email. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle's Home Emails Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 4:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: jaws and band ina box help -- Kindly, Vaughn Brown Vaughn's Percussionship Heal through Feel Equine Massage 360-904-8432 https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.v aughnbrown.net&data=02%7C01%7C%7C418f67615ba34db16aea08d78d6c61b2% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637133368939846929&sd ata=tkgxgFwi4bQoaelm6t5osH5g1Udf%2BSG2bnsRQA6Ixi0%3D&reserved=0 Serving Clark County
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I don't know anything about this program, but if the Jaws scripts are loaded and are well done, isn't insert+h the command to bring up the jaws keystrokes for the app you are in?
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Or insert+w? This is a wild guess. Richard 🖖 Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 1:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help where do you get scrips for this? Thanks, Keith On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
where do you get scrips for this?
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Thanks, Keith
On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: jaws and band ina box help
Vaughn Brown
Excellent questions. And I do not have the answers to them all.
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Did you put the files for the accessible scheme in the scheme folder of BIAB? Vaughn
On 12/29/19, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@wideband.net.au> wrote:
hi thank you for letting me know nothing came out in my email. --
Kindly, Vaughn Brown Vaughn's Percussionship Heal through Feel Equine Massage 360-904-8432 http://www.vaughnbrown.net Serving Clark County
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Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Rick Mladek
Yes, they continue to reappear in the Trash folder of which I continuously delete them. This has been happening for quite some time and every day, I delete these from the trash folder... How do I stop this?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 11:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Hi all,
hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.
I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.
When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.
Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?
Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.
Rick
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Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Outlook 2019 delete issue
Hi all,
hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.
I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.
When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.
Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?
Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.
Rick
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Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address
Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
That keystroke hasn’t worked for me for quite some time now. I thought they did away with that a long time ago.
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address
David:
This is a very interesting observation about shift plus insert plus R being a Jaws command.
I did not know this.
I’ve shut down and re-started my computer, and also unloaded and reloaded Jaws many times, but the problem still persists.
I wonder if we should let the folks at Vespero know about this.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Hello; firstly, the keystroke, shift+insert+r= reply privately to sender is a jaws keystroke. no setting to be changed in outlook will solve your problem. also, no setting in the .io platform will solve the issue. this keystroke isn't 100% accurate. have you restarted your machine? unloaded and reload jaws? the keystroke is working here for now.
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
If a message is open you can press Alt + 1 twice quickly and focus is placed in the “From” field. Now you just have to press left arrow once and you are on the address of the person who posted the list. In order to copy it you can either bring up the context menu, arrow down once to copy and press enter or you can press Shift + End to highlight the address and then use Control + C to copy it. You can now press escape to close the message and press Reply if you want to reply to it but send it directly to the person, you then have to go to the To field, delete the list address and you can use then Control + V to paste in the sender’s address. Of course you can also start a new message and paste the address into the To field right away.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
I’ve found that keystroke to work inconsistently at best. With the message open, you can generally shift+tab through fields and find anc utilize the sender’s address. It takes more work that way, unfortunately.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sorry: I should have been clearer.
I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2020 on a Windows 10 computer with Outlook 2016 in Officed 365.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Hi Tom, What screeen-reader and version of windows are you using?
Thanks, Jessica
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Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 09:31 AM, Tom Behler wrote:
I wonder if we should let the folks at Vespero know about this.The answer to that is, "Yes." It is impossible to fix what you don't know about, and most software makers have a mechanism in place such that prioritizing fixes that are not security related comes from the number of complaints about a given issue. It is always worth filing a trouble ticket for just this reason. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address
Tom Behler
David:
This is a very interesting observation about shift plus insert plus R being a Jaws command.
I did not know this.
I’ve shut down and re-started my computer, and also unloaded and reloaded Jaws many times, but the problem still persists.
I wonder if we should let the folks at Vespero know about this.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address
Hello; firstly, the keystroke, shift+insert+r= reply privately to sender is a jaws keystroke. no setting to be changed in outlook will solve your problem. also, no setting in the .io platform will solve the issue. this keystroke isn't 100% accurate. have you restarted your machine? unloaded and reload jaws? the keystroke is working here for now.
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
If a message is open you can press Alt + 1 twice quickly and focus is placed in the “From” field. Now you just have to press left arrow once and you are on the address of the person who posted the list. In order to copy it you can either bring up the context menu, arrow down once to copy and press enter or you can press Shift + End to highlight the address and then use Control + C to copy it. You can now press escape to close the message and press Reply if you want to reply to it but send it directly to the person, you then have to go to the To field, delete the list address and you can use then Control + V to paste in the sender’s address. Of course you can also start a new message and paste the address into the To field right away.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
I’ve found that keystroke to work inconsistently at best. With the message open, you can generally shift+tab through fields and find anc utilize the sender’s address. It takes more work that way, unfortunately.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sorry: I should have been clearer.
I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2020 on a Windows 10 computer with Outlook 2016 in Officed 365.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Hi Tom, What screeen-reader and version of windows are you using?
Thanks, Jessica
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Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address
david
Hello; firstly, the keystroke, shift+insert+r= reply privately to sender is a jaws keystroke. no setting to be changed in outlook will solve your problem. also, no setting in the .io platform will solve the issue. this keystroke isn't 100% accurate. have you restarted your machine? unloaded and reload jaws? the keystroke is working here for now.
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address
If a message is open you can press Alt + 1 twice quickly and focus is placed in the “From” field. Now you just have to press left arrow once and you are on the address of the person who posted the list. In order to copy it you can either bring up the context menu, arrow down once to copy and press enter or you can press Shift + End to highlight the address and then use Control + C to copy it. You can now press escape to close the message and press Reply if you want to reply to it but send it directly to the person, you then have to go to the To field, delete the list address and you can use then Control + V to paste in the sender’s address. Of course you can also start a new message and paste the address into the To field right away.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
I’ve found that keystroke to work inconsistently at best. With the message open, you can generally shift+tab through fields and find anc utilize the sender’s address. It takes more work that way, unfortunately.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sorry: I should have been clearer.
I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2020 on a Windows 10 computer with Outlook 2016 in Officed 365.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Hi Tom, What screeen-reader and version of windows are you using?
Thanks, Jessica
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Outlook 2019 delete issue
Rick Mladek
Hi all,
hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.
I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.
When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.
Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?
Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.
Rick
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