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moderated Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

Rick Mladek
 

Hi, yes, all folders have been emptied first. Thanks nevertheless...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Have you tried first deleting the messages from these folders and then deleting the folders? Not sure if this will help, but worth a try.

 

Russell



On Jan 1, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I truly doubt a config issue. I am set with Imap, not pop. I’ve tried doing this and even with Jaws closed and as I open Outlook again this morning, those 4 folders again in the trash folder. I am very lost to this for this does not happen on or with my laptop which is exact with all settings etc. as this desktop I’m presently at. One of those computer mysteries I must accept...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 10:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

I guess this may depend a lot on how your email account is configured, e.g. POP3, IMAP, Exchange.

I’d just call Microsoft Accessibility and ask them to take a look and see if they can figure out why this is happening.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Yes, they continue to reappear in the Trash folder of which I continuously delete them. This has been happening for quite some time and every day, I delete these from the trash folder... How do I stop this?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Hi all,

 

hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.

 

I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.

 

When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.

 

Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?

 

Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.

 

Rick

 

 
moderated Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Have you tried first deleting the messages from these folders and then deleting the folders? Not sure if this will help, but worth a try.

Russell

On Jan 1, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

Hi,
 
I truly doubt a config issue. I am set with Imap, not pop. I’ve tried doing this and even with Jaws closed and as I open Outlook again this morning, those 4 folders again in the trash folder. I am very lost to this for this does not happen on or with my laptop which is exact with all settings etc. as this desktop I’m presently at. One of those computer mysteries I must accept...
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 10:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
 
I guess this may depend a lot on how your email account is configured, e.g. POP3, IMAP, Exchange.
I’d just call Microsoft Accessibility and ask them to take a look and see if they can figure out why this is happening.
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
 
Yes, they continue to reappear in the Trash folder of which I continuously delete them. This has been happening for quite some time and every day, I delete these from the trash folder... How do I stop this?
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue
 
If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.
 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2019 delete issue
 
Hi all,
 
hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.
 
I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.
 
When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.
 
Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?
 
Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.
 
Rick
 
moderated Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

Rick Mladek
 

Hi,

 

I truly doubt a config issue. I am set with Imap, not pop. I’ve tried doing this and even with Jaws closed and as I open Outlook again this morning, those 4 folders again in the trash folder. I am very lost to this for this does not happen on or with my laptop which is exact with all settings etc. as this desktop I’m presently at. One of those computer mysteries I must accept...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 10:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

I guess this may depend a lot on how your email account is configured, e.g. POP3, IMAP, Exchange.

I’d just call Microsoft Accessibility and ask them to take a look and see if they can figure out why this is happening.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Yes, they continue to reappear in the Trash folder of which I continuously delete them. This has been happening for quite some time and every day, I delete these from the trash folder... How do I stop this?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Hi all,

 

hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.

 

I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.

 

When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.

 

Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?

 

Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.

 

Rick

 
moderated List Rules - Wed, 01/01/2020 #cal-notice

main@jfw.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

List Rules

When:
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Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

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**List Policies**

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2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

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moderated Re: Silencing an alert in Thunderbird

Mario
 

is the message pane enabled? if so, disable it. problem gone? it did the
trick for me.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Norma A. Boge [mailto:naboge@mchsi.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, December 30, 2019, 9:44 PM
Subject: Silencing an alert in Thunderbird
Hi group,

I’m using Jaws 2020 with Thunderbird 68. When I arrow through messages
in my Drafts folder, Jaws keeps saying “alert this is a draft message.”
It repeats it so I can’t read all of the line I’m on. Anyone know how I
can stop Jaws from reading this alert?

Thanks,

Norma
moderated seeking web experiences

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

As I prepare my next book, to be titled something like the Complete guide to Browsing the Web with JAWS, I continue looking for resources to enrich the book. this means learning of sites which are problematic for any reason, and sites where users have found different quick keys to be beneficial. It's hard for one person to find all these! In this regard, I have questions in case anybody would like to contribute experience:

1. Looking for sites where you have found the use of navigation by region to be useful, perhaps more effective than navigation by heading.

2. Sites where you have found the use of any of these quick keys to be useful: O, W, Y, z, dash or equal sign.

3. Sites where using S or D for same or different elements gets you where you need to go efficiently.

4. Sites with forms that you couldn't complete, or only completed with great difficulty.

5.  Sites where you could not read necessary tables.

 

Please write off-list to topdot@...

if you have thoughts or contributions.

 

Thanks for considering.

 

Dean
moderated Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I guess this may depend a lot on how your email account is configured, e.g. POP3, IMAP, Exchange.

I’d just call Microsoft Accessibility and ask them to take a look and see if they can figure out why this is happening.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Yes, they continue to reappear in the Trash folder of which I continuously delete them. This has been happening for quite some time and every day, I delete these from the trash folder... How do I stop this?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Hi all,

 

hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.

 

I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.

 

When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.

 

Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?

 

Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.

 

Rick

 
moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Maria/all,

Provided you have installed several keyboards, pressing alt and shift together cycles among them. I have six languages installed, so I use it all the time.

                                                            With warmest greetings for the new year,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 12:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

 

I don't find that when I press insert f11.  Perhaps because I use only English?

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
 

On 12/28/2019 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Or you can check in your system tray, for me it says:

 

Tray Input Indicator - English (United States)

Or, if I switch to my German keyboard layout:

Tray Input Indicator - German (Germany)

 

I can press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and press “T” to jump to that item and hear it read.

Of course I don’t usually do this because if I switch to German Eloquence speaks the letters I type in German.

 
moderated Silencing an alert in Thunderbird

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 with Thunderbird 68. When I arrow through messages in my Drafts folder, Jaws keeps saying “alert this is a draft message.” It repeats it so I can’t read all of the line I’m on. Anyone know how I can stop Jaws from reading this alert?

 

Thanks,

Norma

 
moderated Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help

Mario
 

well, pressing insert+h will display the commands for the program but
pressing insert+q is usually used to confirm if the default scripts are
being loaded instead of the scripts ment for the program.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, December 30, 2019, 4:21 PM
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help
I don't know anything about this program, but if the Jaws scripts are
loaded and are well done, isn't insert+h the command to bring up the
jaws keystrokes for the app you are in?
Or insert+w?

This is a wild guess.


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kramlinger,
Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help

where do you get scrips for this?
Thanks, Keith

On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@gmail.com> wrote:

Excellent questions. And I do not have the answers to them all.

Did you put the files for the accessible scheme in the scheme folder of
BIAB?
Vaughn

On 12/29/19, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@wideband.net.au> wrote:
hi thank you for letting me know nothing came out in my email.

I have just purchased band in a box 2020 running with windows 10 64
bit and jaws 20190928 I have installed the scripts in jaws enu that I
unzipped and placed the bbw.accessscheme in band in a box data
folder.

I have set Biab as discribed in the scripts html notes.

having problems saving the scheme it keeps going back to defalt scheme.

where can I get podcasts from a blind person's point of view? which
can I get jaws hotkeys relating to the program?

Many thanks.
Michelle Stevens
On 30 Dec 2019, at 7:26 am, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

There is nothing in your email.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Michelle's Home Emails
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 4:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and band ina box help















--
Kindly,
Vaughn Brown
Vaughn's Percussionship
Heal through Feel Equine Massage
360-904-8432
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.v
aughnbrown.net&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C418f67615ba34db16aea08d78d6c61b2%
7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637133368939846929&amp;sd
ata=tkgxgFwi4bQoaelm6t5osH5g1Udf%2BSG2bnsRQA6Ixi0%3D&amp;reserved=0
Serving Clark County
moderated Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I don't know anything about this program, but if the Jaws scripts are loaded and are well done, isn't insert+h the command to bring up the jaws keystrokes for the app you are in?
Or insert+w?

This is a wild guess.


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help

where do you get scrips for this?
Thanks, Keith

On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@gmail.com> wrote:

Excellent questions. And I do not have the answers to them all.

Did you put the files for the accessible scheme in the scheme folder of BIAB?
Vaughn

On 12/29/19, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@wideband.net.au> wrote:
hi thank you for letting me know nothing came out in my email.

I have just purchased band in a box 2020 running with windows 10 64
bit and jaws 20190928 I have installed the scripts in jaws enu that I
unzipped and placed the bbw.accessscheme in band in a box data
folder.

I have set Biab as discribed in the scripts html notes.

having problems saving the scheme it keeps going back to defalt scheme.

where can I get podcasts from a blind person's point of view? which
can I get jaws hotkeys relating to the program?

Many thanks.
Michelle Stevens
On 30 Dec 2019, at 7:26 am, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
There is nothing in your email.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Michelle's Home Emails
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 4:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and band ina box help











--
Kindly,
Vaughn Brown
Vaughn's Percussionship
Heal through Feel Equine Massage
360-904-8432
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.v
aughnbrown.net&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C418f67615ba34db16aea08d78d6c61b2%
7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637133368939846929&amp;sd
ata=tkgxgFwi4bQoaelm6t5osH5g1Udf%2BSG2bnsRQA6Ixi0%3D&amp;reserved=0
Serving Clark County
moderated Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: jaws and band ina box help

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

where do you get scrips for this?
Thanks, Keith

On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@gmail.com> wrote:

Excellent questions. And I do not have the answers to them all.

Did you put the files for the accessible scheme in the scheme folder of BIAB?
Vaughn

On 12/29/19, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@wideband.net.au> wrote:
hi thank you for letting me know nothing came out in my email.

I have just purchased band in a box 2020 running with windows 10 64 bit and
jaws 20190928
I have installed the scripts in jaws enu that I unzipped and placed the
bbw.accessscheme in band in a box data folder.

I have set Biab as discribed in the scripts html notes.

having problems saving the scheme it keeps going back to defalt scheme.

where can I get podcasts from a blind person's point of view? which can I
get jaws hotkeys relating to the program?

Many thanks.
Michelle Stevens
On 30 Dec 2019, at 7:26 am, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
There is nothing in your email.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle's Home
Emails
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 4:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and band ina box help











--
Kindly,
Vaughn Brown
Vaughn's Percussionship
Heal through Feel Equine Massage
360-904-8432
http://www.vaughnbrown.net
Serving Clark County
moderated Re: jaws and band ina box help

Vaughn Brown
 

Excellent questions. And I do not have the answers to them all.

Did you put the files for the accessible scheme in the scheme folder of BIAB?
Vaughn

On 12/29/19, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@wideband.net.au> wrote:
hi thank you for letting me know nothing came out in my email.

I have just purchased band in a box 2020 running with windows 10 64 bit and
jaws 20190928
I have installed the scripts in jaws enu that I unzipped and placed the
bbw.accessscheme in band in a box data folder.

I have set Biab as discribed in the scripts html notes.

having problems saving the scheme it keeps going back to defalt scheme.

where can I get podcasts from a blind person's point of view? which can I
get jaws hotkeys relating to the program?

Many thanks.
Michelle Stevens
On 30 Dec 2019, at 7:26 am, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

There is nothing in your email.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle's Home
Emails
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 4:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and band ina box help










--
Kindly,
Vaughn Brown
Vaughn's Percussionship
Heal through Feel Equine Massage
360-904-8432
http://www.vaughnbrown.net
Serving Clark County
moderated Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

Rick Mladek
 

Yes, they continue to reappear in the Trash folder of which I continuously delete them. This has been happening for quite some time and every day, I delete these from the trash folder... How do I stop this?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Hi all,

 

hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.

 

I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.

 

When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.

 

Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?

 

Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.

 

Rick

 
moderated Re: Outlook 2019 delete issue

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

If you delete folders they go to Deleted items but you have to go into Deleted items, then press Control + Shift + Tab to go into your folder list, expand Deleted Items and when focused on one of the folders you deleted bring up the Context menu and select “Delete”, only then will they go away permanently.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2019 delete issue

 

Hi all,

 

hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.

 

I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.

 

When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.

 

Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?

 

Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.

 

Rick

 
moderated Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

That keystroke hasn’t worked for me for quite some time now.  I thought they did away with that a long time ago.

 

                .                               Melissa

 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

David:

 

This is a very interesting observation about shift plus insert plus R being a Jaws command.

 

I did not know this.

 

I’ve shut down and re-started my computer, and also unloaded and reloaded Jaws many times, but the problem still persists.

 

I wonder if we should let the folks at Vespero know about this.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

Hello;

firstly, the keystroke, shift+insert+r= reply privately to sender is a jaws keystroke.

no setting to be changed in outlook will solve your problem.

also, no setting in the .io platform will solve the issue.

this keystroke isn't 100% accurate.

have you restarted your machine?

unloaded and reload jaws?

the keystroke is working here for now.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

If a message is open you can press Alt + 1 twice quickly and focus is placed in the “From” field.

Now you just have to press left arrow once and you are on the address of the person who posted the list.

In order to copy it you can either bring up the context menu, arrow down once to copy and press enter or you can press Shift + End to highlight the address and then use Control + C to copy it.

You can now press escape to close the message and press Reply if you want to reply to it but send it directly to the person, you then have to go to the To field, delete the list address and you can use then Control + V to paste in the sender’s address.

Of course you can also start a new message and paste the address into the To field right away.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

I’ve found that keystroke to work inconsistently at best. With the message open, you can generally shift+tab through fields and find anc utilize the sender’s address.  It takes more work that way, unfortunately.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

Sorry:  I should have been clearer.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2020 on a Windows 10 computer with Outlook 2016 in Officed 365.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

Hi Tom, 

What screeen-reader and version of windows are you using? 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

On Dec 29, 2019, at 5:47 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:



Hello, everyone.

 

It used to be that, if I wanted to respond to a list member’s post privately, I could hit shift insert R to get that address.

 

This function does not seem to work any longer.

 

Whenever I invoke this command, I now get a message that says “Cannot retrieve sender’s address”.

 

Interestingly, this problem now occurs on all of the groups.io lists to which I belong.

 

Does anyone have a fix for this issue?

 

Could the issue be resulting from a general change in how groups.io lists function?

 

Or, do I maybe have to change a setting in my Outlook 2016 e-mail program?

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 
moderated Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

Brian Vogel
 

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 09:31 AM, Tom Behler wrote:
I wonder if we should let the folks at Vespero know about this.
The answer to that is, "Yes."   It is impossible to fix what you don't know about, and most software makers have a mechanism in place such that prioritizing fixes that are not security related comes from the number of complaints about a given issue.

It is always worth filing a trouble ticket for just this reason.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman
moderated Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

Tom Behler
 

David:

 

This is a very interesting observation about shift plus insert plus R being a Jaws command.

 

I did not know this.

 

I’ve shut down and re-started my computer, and also unloaded and reloaded Jaws many times, but the problem still persists.

 

I wonder if we should let the folks at Vespero know about this.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

Hello;

firstly, the keystroke, shift+insert+r= reply privately to sender is a jaws keystroke.

no setting to be changed in outlook will solve your problem.

also, no setting in the .io platform will solve the issue.

this keystroke isn't 100% accurate.

have you restarted your machine?

unloaded and reload jaws?

the keystroke is working here for now.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

If a message is open you can press Alt + 1 twice quickly and focus is placed in the “From” field.

Now you just have to press left arrow once and you are on the address of the person who posted the list.

In order to copy it you can either bring up the context menu, arrow down once to copy and press enter or you can press Shift + End to highlight the address and then use Control + C to copy it.

You can now press escape to close the message and press Reply if you want to reply to it but send it directly to the person, you then have to go to the To field, delete the list address and you can use then Control + V to paste in the sender’s address.

Of course you can also start a new message and paste the address into the To field right away.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

I’ve found that keystroke to work inconsistently at best. With the message open, you can generally shift+tab through fields and find anc utilize the sender’s address.  It takes more work that way, unfortunately.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

Sorry:  I should have been clearer.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2020 on a Windows 10 computer with Outlook 2016 in Officed 365.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

Hi Tom, 

What screeen-reader and version of windows are you using? 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

On Dec 29, 2019, at 5:47 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:



Hello, everyone.

 

It used to be that, if I wanted to respond to a list member’s post privately, I could hit shift insert R to get that address.

 

This function does not seem to work any longer.

 

Whenever I invoke this command, I now get a message that says “Cannot retrieve sender’s address”.

 

Interestingly, this problem now occurs on all of the groups.io lists to which I belong.

 

Does anyone have a fix for this issue?

 

Could the issue be resulting from a general change in how groups.io lists function?

 

Or, do I maybe have to change a setting in my Outlook 2016 e-mail program?

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 
moderated Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

david
 

Hello;

firstly, the keystroke, shift+insert+r= reply privately to sender is a jaws keystroke.

no setting to be changed in outlook will solve your problem.

also, no setting in the .io platform will solve the issue.

this keystroke isn't 100% accurate.

have you restarted your machine?

unloaded and reload jaws?

the keystroke is working here for now.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

If a message is open you can press Alt + 1 twice quickly and focus is placed in the “From” field.

Now you just have to press left arrow once and you are on the address of the person who posted the list.

In order to copy it you can either bring up the context menu, arrow down once to copy and press enter or you can press Shift + End to highlight the address and then use Control + C to copy it.

You can now press escape to close the message and press Reply if you want to reply to it but send it directly to the person, you then have to go to the To field, delete the list address and you can use then Control + V to paste in the sender’s address.

Of course you can also start a new message and paste the address into the To field right away.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

I’ve found that keystroke to work inconsistently at best. With the message open, you can generally shift+tab through fields and find anc utilize the sender’s address.  It takes more work that way, unfortunately.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

Sorry:  I should have been clearer.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2020 on a Windows 10 computer with Outlook 2016 in Officed 365.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No Longer Able To Retrieve A Poster's E-mail Address

 

Hi Tom, 

What screeen-reader and version of windows are you using? 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

On Dec 29, 2019, at 5:47 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:



Hello, everyone.

 

It used to be that, if I wanted to respond to a list member’s post privately, I could hit shift insert R to get that address.

 

This function does not seem to work any longer.

 

Whenever I invoke this command, I now get a message that says “Cannot retrieve sender’s address”.

 

Interestingly, this problem now occurs on all of the groups.io lists to which I belong.

 

Does anyone have a fix for this issue?

 

Could the issue be resulting from a general change in how groups.io lists function?

 

Or, do I maybe have to change a setting in my Outlook 2016 e-mail program?

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 
moderated Outlook 2019 delete issue

Rick Mladek
 

Hi all,

 

hoping everyone’s Christmas and Hanukkah went well and your upcoming New Year will be as wonderful.

 

I am using Outlook 2019 with Jaws 2019.1912.1 with Windows 10. Windows updates current.

 

When I shut down my pc and boot it up either later that day or the next, I open Outlook to check emails. In the trash folder is other folders that I continuously delete. They reappear the following day when I turn my computer on. They just do not delete permanently for some odd reason.

 

Any ideas what to do to stop this madness?

 

Also, I’m curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are for the new Jaws 2020. I’ve not installed it yet due to so many troubles I’ve read about when first released. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again to you all.

 

Rick
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