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moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

 

If there isn't one, you could use Windows Key+Space to switch to the next input keyboard followed immediately by SHIFT + Windows Key + Space to jump back to what you were on.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Leo
 

Hello everyone,

is there a keyboard shortcut to verbalize the current keyboard language in windows 10?

I have my system tray set to show the input indicator; however, all too often it would be useful for me to know  what is the current input language on the fly,

-- if someone knew I would really appreciate any info about it.
--
Best,
   Leo.

moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

 

Have you tried Jaws Key + Control + Enter to see if it says something like “Change at line 6”, of course it could be any number different from 6, just used it as an example.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button on web site

 

I wonder if this is one of those annoying pull down menus, that after tabbing to it and hitting space bar or enter, a dialog of sorts opens either above or below that spot on the screen.

I've not dealt with that site, but I have run across some where the information showed up above rather than below.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Norma A. Boge <naboge@...> wrote:



Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma

moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

And if the Jaws cursory reads it, you can simply go there wit the Jaws cursor, press Control and then click the button. You could also try Control + Enter, it may or may not work, but you won’t know until you try.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

It’s a good question. As a button, you should be able to reach it by pressing the letter “b.” If “b” does get you there, I’d feel confident you’ll click the right control.

 

If that doesn’t work, another way is to move the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor when you have focus on the restore button. You do this by pressing insert and the JAWS key together on the numpad. If all goes well, JAWS will confirm that focus remains on that button. In that case, stay with the JAWS cursor but activate the button by pressing insert-PC (plus) button on the numpad.

 

I’m a bit foggy on this last one, but tabbing or arrowing with the touch cursor might also get you to the restore button. That’s shift-PC cursor. You get out of the touch cursor by pressing the PC cursor twice.  

 

If none of these techniques works, you might post again with an explanation of what’s happening when you try to work with this control.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Adrian Spratt
 

It’s a good question. As a button, you should be able to reach it by pressing the letter “b.” If “b” does get you there, I’d feel confident you’ll click the right control.

 

If that doesn’t work, another way is to move the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor when you have focus on the restore button. You do this by pressing insert and the JAWS key together on the numpad. If all goes well, JAWS will confirm that focus remains on that button. In that case, stay with the JAWS cursor but activate the button by pressing insert-PC (plus) button on the numpad.

 

I’m a bit foggy on this last one, but tabbing or arrowing with the touch cursor might also get you to the restore button. That’s shift-PC cursor. You get out of the touch cursor by pressing the PC cursor twice.  

 

If none of these techniques works, you might post again with an explanation of what’s happening when you try to work with this control.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Richard Turner
 

Jaws should say what you are on.

You should be able to tab to it or use the left or right arrows, but if you can tab to it, that will be the best way to know you are on the right item.

If it doesn’t say anything, then you are stuck.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 6:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Jessica D
 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Steve Matzura
 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.


On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Richard Turner
 

i did a web search for your question and found the following link. This may also be a link you would want to send back to the support people:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40764939/jaws-execute-ctrl-click#40794588





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Dec 27, 2019, at 4:59 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

David Griffith
 

You may be able to get the same result simply by pressing the application key.

Technically if you need to exactly replicate the keystroke I think you need to invoke the Jaws cursor and route jaws to the pc  cursor – insert plus numpad minus in desktop layout and then hold down the control key and press  numpad slash  once to invoke a   virtual mouse click.

I would try bringing up the context menu with the application key first though as I find this unpredictable in results.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jessica D
Sent: 28 December 2019 00:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

moderated what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Jessica D
 

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

moderated Happy New Year

Pastor Gil Pries
 

I’d like to wish all of you a very Happy New Year in 2020.

 

Pastor Gil

moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

Norma A. Boge
 

Thanks to Richard and David for your suggestions. I’ll use them and see if I can get my issue resolved. Best, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button on web site

 

I wonder if this is one of those annoying pull down menus, that after tabbing to it and hitting space bar or enter, a dialog of sorts opens either above or below that spot on the screen.

I've not dealt with that site, but I have run across some where the information showed up above rather than below.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Norma A. Boge <naboge@...> wrote:



Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma

moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

Richard Turner
 

I wonder if this is one of those annoying pull down menus, that after tabbing to it and hitting space bar or enter, a dialog of sorts opens either above or below that spot on the screen.
I've not dealt with that site, but I have run across some where the information showed up above rather than below.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Norma A. Boge <naboge@...> wrote:



Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma

moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

David Griffith
 

This can be annoying Sometimes

  1. Turning virtual cursor off – jawskey plus Z and then tabbing to the element and pressing space or enter will work.
  2. Switching browsers. Try the same page in Internet Explorer of a Chrome based browser if using Firefox or vice versa.

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: 26 December 2019 18:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Unable to activate button on web site

 

Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma

moderated Unable to activate button on web site

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma

moderated Problems with the clipboard in jaws 19

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi, all,

I extensively use the insert+windows+c command to append text to the clipboard. I have two questions about this functionality offered by JAWS:
1. I sometimes find that text which I append to the clipboard actually does not get appended. At first, I thought I was imagining this, but now it has happened enough times that I know the problem is for real. It happened twice today. I appended multiple article titles to the clipboard. But only one showed up when I pasted the clipboard text.
2. Often, the same content gets added to the clipboard several times. So when I paste the content, the same chunk of text gets pasted multiple times. A quick fix has been to use insert+space+c before pasting. This helps me determine what the clipboard precisely contains. Any ideas?

moderated Re: Problem With Editing, Saving, And Sending A Message In Outlook Drafts Folder

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Jonathan.

 

I’ll check this possibility out when I get some time here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Editing, Saving, And Sending A Message In Outlook Drafts Folder

 

On the Macintosh side, Outlook now has a feature that replies to a message in the same window. I wonder if perhaps the Drafts folder has a preview pane, and if both the preview pane and the editing window are making changes to the draft. There is a location in the view settings to disable Preview 
alt followed by v followed by v will get you into the view options, but I believe some of the more interesting settings for us are under the options button available when you press alt-O after opening up the View settings.
Jonathan

moderated Re: Problem With Editing, Saving, And Sending A Message In Outlook Drafts Folder

Cohn, Jonathan
 

On the Macintosh side, Outlook now has a feature that replies to a message in the same window. I wonder if perhaps the Drafts folder has a preview pane, and if both the preview pane and the editing window are making changes to the draft. There is a location in the view settings to disable Preview 
alt followed by v followed by v will get you into the view options, but I believe some of the more interesting settings for us are under the options button available when you press alt-O after opening up the View settings.
Jonathan

moderated Re: Optik Book scanner

Dean Martineau
 

I have the Plustek Opticbook 4800, faster and does work with Windows 10 without difficulty.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Optik Book scanner

hmmm, I have been using it with Windows 10, however I am sure I had to
do some funkiness with the driver, but its been a long time and I
forget what happened -- maybe their tech support can help.

On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:26:20 -0500,
jredlichspeaks@... wrote:

I had one of those, and it was a great scanner. but it doesn't work with windows ten.
Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 7:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Optik Book scanner

Hi,
Years ago there was a product called a Plustek Opticbook 3600 book edge scanner. It’s claim to fame was a scanner bed which extended all the way to its front edge, thus allowing you to place the book’s binding right on the edge and lay pages completely flat. You get none of the typical “shadowing” associated with lying a book face-down and trying to get the very inside edges of the pages near the binding to scan accurately. It was a great concept.

Unfortunately I don’t think that product is still around.


On Dec 25, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:

Hello all,

Someone is highly recommending this scanner. I'm trying to research it, but wonder what the correct search-term for it is. I have found the words given as one word, two words, words both capitalized and not, with + in front of it, and all with different prices and features. The one I'm looking for is specially for scanning books, and has only 3 buttons: black/white, color, and "Go."

I would appreciate any information anyone can share. Many thanks.

Marilyn















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