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moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Maria Campbell
 

I don't find that when I press insert f11.  Perhaps because I use only English?


Maria Campbell
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On 12/28/2019 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Or you can check in your system tray, for me it says:

 

Tray Input Indicator - English (United States)

Or, if I switch to my German keyboard layout:

Tray Input Indicator - German (Germany)

 

I can press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and press “T” to jump to that item and hear it read.

Of course I don’t usually do this because if I switch to German Eloquence speaks the letters I type in German.

 


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

 

Or you can check in your system tray, for me it says:

 

Tray Input Indicator - English (United States)

Or, if I switch to my German keyboard layout:

Tray Input Indicator - German (Germany)

 

I can press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and press “T” to jump to that item and hear it read.

Of course I don’t usually do this because if I switch to German Eloquence speaks the letters I type in German.

 


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

 

If there isn't one, you could use Windows Key+Space to switch to the next input keyboard followed immediately by SHIFT + Windows Key + Space to jump back to what you were on.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Leo
 

Hello everyone,

is there a keyboard shortcut to verbalize the current keyboard language in windows 10?

I have my system tray set to show the input indicator; however, all too often it would be useful for me to know  what is the current input language on the fly,

-- if someone knew I would really appreciate any info about it.
--
Best,
   Leo.


moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

 

Have you tried Jaws Key + Control + Enter to see if it says something like “Change at line 6”, of course it could be any number different from 6, just used it as an example.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button on web site

 

I wonder if this is one of those annoying pull down menus, that after tabbing to it and hitting space bar or enter, a dialog of sorts opens either above or below that spot on the screen.

I've not dealt with that site, but I have run across some where the information showed up above rather than below.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Norma A. Boge <naboge@...> wrote:



Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

And if the Jaws cursory reads it, you can simply go there wit the Jaws cursor, press Control and then click the button. You could also try Control + Enter, it may or may not work, but you won’t know until you try.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

It’s a good question. As a button, you should be able to reach it by pressing the letter “b.” If “b” does get you there, I’d feel confident you’ll click the right control.

 

If that doesn’t work, another way is to move the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor when you have focus on the restore button. You do this by pressing insert and the JAWS key together on the numpad. If all goes well, JAWS will confirm that focus remains on that button. In that case, stay with the JAWS cursor but activate the button by pressing insert-PC (plus) button on the numpad.

 

I’m a bit foggy on this last one, but tabbing or arrowing with the touch cursor might also get you to the restore button. That’s shift-PC cursor. You get out of the touch cursor by pressing the PC cursor twice.  

 

If none of these techniques works, you might post again with an explanation of what’s happening when you try to work with this control.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Adrian Spratt
 

It’s a good question. As a button, you should be able to reach it by pressing the letter “b.” If “b” does get you there, I’d feel confident you’ll click the right control.

 

If that doesn’t work, another way is to move the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor when you have focus on the restore button. You do this by pressing insert and the JAWS key together on the numpad. If all goes well, JAWS will confirm that focus remains on that button. In that case, stay with the JAWS cursor but activate the button by pressing insert-PC (plus) button on the numpad.

 

I’m a bit foggy on this last one, but tabbing or arrowing with the touch cursor might also get you to the restore button. That’s shift-PC cursor. You get out of the touch cursor by pressing the PC cursor twice.  

 

If none of these techniques works, you might post again with an explanation of what’s happening when you try to work with this control.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Richard Turner
 

Jaws should say what you are on.

You should be able to tab to it or use the left or right arrows, but if you can tab to it, that will be the best way to know you are on the right item.

If it doesn’t say anything, then you are stuck.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 6:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Steve Matzura
 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.


On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica



moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Richard Turner
 

i did a web search for your question and found the following link. This may also be a link you would want to send back to the support people:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40764939/jaws-execute-ctrl-click#40794588





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Dec 27, 2019, at 4:59 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

David Griffith
 

You may be able to get the same result simply by pressing the application key.

Technically if you need to exactly replicate the keystroke I think you need to invoke the Jaws cursor and route jaws to the pc  cursor – insert plus numpad minus in desktop layout and then hold down the control key and press  numpad slash  once to invoke a   virtual mouse click.

I would try bringing up the context menu with the application key first though as I find this unpredictable in results.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jessica D
Sent: 28 December 2019 00:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 


moderated what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 


moderated Happy New Year

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

I’d like to wish all of you a very Happy New Year in 2020.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

Norma A. Boge
 

Thanks to Richard and David for your suggestions. I’ll use them and see if I can get my issue resolved. Best, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button on web site

 

I wonder if this is one of those annoying pull down menus, that after tabbing to it and hitting space bar or enter, a dialog of sorts opens either above or below that spot on the screen.

I've not dealt with that site, but I have run across some where the information showed up above rather than below.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Norma A. Boge <naboge@...> wrote:



Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma


moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

Richard Turner
 

I wonder if this is one of those annoying pull down menus, that after tabbing to it and hitting space bar or enter, a dialog of sorts opens either above or below that spot on the screen.
I've not dealt with that site, but I have run across some where the information showed up above rather than below.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Norma A. Boge <naboge@...> wrote:



Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma


moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

David Griffith
 

This can be annoying Sometimes

  1. Turning virtual cursor off – jawskey plus Z and then tabbing to the element and pressing space or enter will work.
  2. Switching browsers. Try the same page in Internet Explorer of a Chrome based browser if using Firefox or vice versa.

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: 26 December 2019 18:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Unable to activate button on web site

 

Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma


moderated Unable to activate button on web site

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma


moderated Problems with the clipboard in jaws 19

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi, all,

I extensively use the insert+windows+c command to append text to the clipboard. I have two questions about this functionality offered by JAWS:
1. I sometimes find that text which I append to the clipboard actually does not get appended. At first, I thought I was imagining this, but now it has happened enough times that I know the problem is for real. It happened twice today. I appended multiple article titles to the clipboard. But only one showed up when I pasted the clipboard text.
2. Often, the same content gets added to the clipboard several times. So when I paste the content, the same chunk of text gets pasted multiple times. A quick fix has been to use insert+space+c before pasting. This helps me determine what the clipboard precisely contains. Any ideas?


moderated Re: Problem With Editing, Saving, And Sending A Message In Outlook Drafts Folder

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Jonathan.

 

I’ll check this possibility out when I get some time here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Editing, Saving, And Sending A Message In Outlook Drafts Folder

 

On the Macintosh side, Outlook now has a feature that replies to a message in the same window. I wonder if perhaps the Drafts folder has a preview pane, and if both the preview pane and the editing window are making changes to the draft. There is a location in the view settings to disable Preview 
alt followed by v followed by v will get you into the view options, but I believe some of the more interesting settings for us are under the options button available when you press alt-O after opening up the View settings.
Jonathan

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