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Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>

#74497

I searched for quotes by eyden I and found this:
“Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click I agree.”  Eyden I., 
Kiss Friendzone Goodbye
From: https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/15746604.Eyden_I_

So, Mike, you can add the attribution to your quote.

Later,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

most likely from the signature from a member on this list or another list, but this quote comes from Kiss Friendzone Goodbye by  Islam "Eyden I"Reddioui who is an author, a professional translator, and a man of mystery and power, whose power is exceeded only by his mystery, and has a passion for helping people to form lasting relationships and to develop their self-confidence.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, December 23, 2019, 8:50 PM
Subject: How does speech and sound scheme really work?
Hi Jessica,
To be honest, I read it somewhere, but I don't recall where.  It's been quite awhile ago.  I'm sure it's a quote by someone, but I just don't know who or I would give them the credit.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Jessica D <mailto:jldail13@gmail.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, December 23, 2019 5:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Hi
I apologize that my question is off topic, but who came up with the quote at the end of your email?
It's helarious!

Thanks,
Jessica

On Dec 23, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com <mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com>> wrote:

﻿
Hi Leo,

These are your choices of attributes you can adjust in speech & sound schemes.  Knowing what you want to change would help to help you.

Attributes Page
  Default, Behavior: Ignore

Grammar Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Hyperlink Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Invalid Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

  MisSpelled Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

OCR Text Behavior: Speak text, Data: Using OCR Voice

Subscript Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Superscript Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lev <mailto:literophilus@myself.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, December 23, 2019 3:05 PM
*Subject:* How does speech and sound scheme really work?

hello everyone,

well this is driving me absolutely insane, at first I thought it was not going to be any difficult, so I ventured myself into the settings.
After a while I noticed that I needed to read some instructions, so I googled and found some web sites, including freedom scientific web site where I could find what I was looking for. However, whether I thoroughly follow instructions or I try to use a bit of common sense and logic I just cannot make this speech and sound scheme feature work for me.

all I want to do is having jaws playing a sound every time it finds an attribute on a word.

Since I have tried it for a while, I would really appreciate if someone explains it for me as if I were a  seven year old kid lol

I'm using jaws 2020 and Microsoft office 2019, thanks in advance for any help.

--
Best,
     Leo.

Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Mario

#74496

most likely from the signature from a member on this list or another 
list, but this quote comes from Kiss Friendzone Goodbye by  Islam "Eyden 
I"Reddioui who is an author, a professional translator, and a man of 
mystery and power, whose power is exceeded only by his mystery, and has 
a passion for helping people to form lasting relationships and to 
develop their self-confidence.

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-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, December 23, 2019, 8:50 PM
Subject: How does speech and sound scheme really work?
Hi Jessica,
To be honest, I read it somewhere, but I don't recall where.  It's been
quite awhile ago.  I'm sure it's a quote by someone, but I just don't
know who or I would give them the credit.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Jessica D <mailto:jldail13@gmail.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, December 23, 2019 5:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Hi
I apologize that my question is off topic, but who came up with the
quote at the end of your email?
It's helarious!

Thanks,
Jessica

On Dec 23, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com
<mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com>> wrote:

﻿
Hi Leo,

These are your choices of attributes you can adjust in speech & sound
schemes.  Knowing what you want to change would help to help you.

Attributes Page
  Default, Behavior: Ignore

Grammar Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Hyperlink Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Invalid Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

  MisSpelled Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

OCR Text Behavior: Speak text, Data: Using OCR Voice

Subscript Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Superscript Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lev <mailto:literophilus@myself.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, December 23, 2019 3:05 PM
*Subject:* How does speech and sound scheme really work?

hello everyone,

well this is driving me absolutely insane, at first I thought it was
not going to be any difficult, so I ventured myself into the settings.
After a while I noticed that I needed to read some instructions, so I
googled and found some web sites, including freedom scientific web
site where I could find what I was looking for. However, whether I
thoroughly follow instructions or I try to use a bit of common sense
and logic I just cannot make this speech and sound scheme feature work
for me.

all I want to do is having jaws playing a sound every time it finds an
attribute on a word.

Since I have tried it for a while, I would really appreciate if
someone explains it for me as if I were a  seven year old kid lol

I'm using jaws 2020 and Microsoft office 2019, thanks in advance for
any help.

--
Best,
     Leo.

Re: Having Jaws read part of a screen in a specific color

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>

#74495

I don’t think skim reading is the answer, but here is a more detailed explanation of what the program does.

I have an html document open, I hit a hotkey, f6 in this case, and it shows the resulting errors in a window toward the bottom of the screen.

That text is in Black on Honeydew.

Is there a way to set a hotkey to read only text in that color combo on the screen, that will still allow me to do the normal editing in the areas needing fixing?

Or, to set a window around that portion of the screen when I can get sighted help to do that?

I could have done this in my sleep with Window-eyes, but since I am committed to do this with Jaws, I could use some help.

Like Leo had said in a previous question, if someone knows and could explain it as if they were explaining it to a 7-year old, that would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Having Jaws read part of a screen in a specific color

It sounds like you’re trying to do something with skim reading.

On Dec 24, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I have a program, CSS HTML Validator, that shows errors in the font colors, black on honeydew.

Is there a way to set up a hotkey that I could press and just hear the section of the screen that is Black on Honeydew, but could still read the rest normally?

I used to do this with Window-eyes quite easily, but cannot wrap my head around how to do this with Jaws.

I think it shows it in a section on the lower portion of the screen.

Thanks,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

Re: Having Jaws read part of a screen in a specific color

NFB Lab 4

#74494

It sounds like you’re trying to do something with skim reading.

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On Dec 24, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I have a program, CSS HTML Validator, that shows errors in the font colors, black on honeydew.

Is there a way to set up a hotkey that I could press and just hear the section of the screen that is Black on Honeydew, but could still read the rest normally?

I used to do this with Window-eyes quite easily, but cannot wrap my head around how to do this with Jaws.

I think it shows it in a section on the lower portion of the screen.

Thanks,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

Having Jaws read part of a screen in a specific color

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>

#74493

Hello all,

I have a program, CSS HTML Validator, that shows errors in the font colors, black on honeydew.

Is there a way to set up a hotkey that I could press and just hear the section of the screen that is Black on Honeydew, but could still read the rest normally?

I used to do this with Window-eyes quite easily, but cannot wrap my head around how to do this with Jaws.

I think it shows it in a section on the lower portion of the screen.

Thanks,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Leo

#74492

Hi Mike and fellows,

I finally did it, and now I have jaws reading quoted text and text with attribute using a different voice. Well, at first I wanted jaws to play sounds but after I understood how to do it and tested it, I decided on keeping those other voices. Before asking you, I Had fallen in a little pitfall, which was not other but trying to set all the actions for all the attributes at once. In other words, when I had to choose which one attribute I wanted to modify, I chose underline, bold, and italic all at once, and for this reason it didn't work. So, if anyone is interested in going over this feature, this is a good piece of information to take into account. A couple of things, the alias and the synth you're currently using have to be taken into account as well. Note that for every synth you have to modify different alias for different attributes. In fact, it sounds more logic for me to do this first, and then edit a new scheme because when you get to the part where you have to choose the alias, you will already have the customized alias that you previously modified.

Thanks guys again, and aside from the links you shared with me, you can go through this other which clarified even more the information for me.

https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/speechandsoundsmanager/02_Speech&SoundsManager.htm

Best,
   Leo.

On 12/23/2019 7:15 PM, Mike B wrote:

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Hi Leo,

These are your choices of attributes you can adjust in speech & sound schemes. Knowing what you want to change would help to help you.

Attributes Page
Default, Behavior: Ignore

Grammar Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Hyperlink Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Invalid Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

MisSpelled Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

OCR Text Behavior: Speak text, Data: Using OCR Voice

Subscript Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Superscript Behavior: Speak attribute, Data: Using MessageVoice

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Lev

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 3:05 PM

Subject: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

hello everyone,

well this is driving me absolutely insane, at first I thought it was not going to be any difficult, so I ventured myself into the settings. After a while I noticed that I needed to read some instructions, so I googled and found some web sites, including freedom scientific web site where I could find what I was looking for. However, whether I thoroughly follow instructions or I try to use a bit of common sense and logic I just cannot make this speech and sound scheme feature work for me.

all I want to do is having jaws playing a sound every time it finds an attribute on a word.

Since I have tried it for a while, I would really appreciate if someone explains it for me as if I were a seven year old kid lol

I'm using jaws 2020 and Microsoft office 2019, thanks in advance for any help.
--
Best,
   Leo.

Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>

#74491

Thanks very much.

That will be a very useful command.

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lev
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Hi, yes, it's a temporary change, as some other jaws settings, this directly affects the application you're working on. It's useful for web browsers or Microsoft word. I finally carried out what I wanted and I finally have different voices reading quoted text and text with specific attribute.

Best,

   Leo.

On 12/24/2019 9:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Is that keyboard command a temporary change for that session, or does it change it until you change it back?

Thanks,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

The Speech and sound scheme was a feature that was introduced in 2003 in Jaws 5.0. It is like a virtual proofreader. You can Press Insert+Ault+S to bring up the list of Speech and Sound options. and customize how ever the way you want it to read your screen.

Thanks for asking.

Best Regards

Michael Munn

Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Leo

#74490

Hi, yes, it's a temporary change, as some other jaws settings, this directly affects the application you're working on. It's useful for web browsers or Microsoft word. I finally carried out what I wanted and I finally have different voices reading quoted text and text with specific attribute.

Best,
   Leo.

On 12/24/2019 9:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

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Is that keyboard command a temporary change for that session, or does it change it until you change it back?

Thanks,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

The Speech and sound scheme was a feature that was introduced in 2003 in Jaws 5.0. It is like a virtual proofreader. You can Press Insert+Ault+S to bring up the list of Speech and Sound options. and customize how ever the way you want it to read your screen.

Thanks for asking.

Best Regards

Michael Munn

Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>

#74489

Is that keyboard command a temporary change for that session, or does it change it until you change it back?

Thanks,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

The Speech and sound scheme was a feature that was introduced in 2003 in Jaws 5.0. It is like a virtual proofreader. You can Press Insert+Ault+S to bring up the list of Speech and Sound options. and customize how ever the way you want it to read your screen.

Thanks for asking.

Best Regards

Michael Munn

Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>

#74488

In Word 2016 from the Office 365 subscription, when I hit f7 the first thing that pops up is a button that says Editor overview, review all results and it gives a number so I know how many errors there are.

Then, if I hit spacebar on that button, the first error is shown.

If I tab, I still hear the suggestions but instead of being in a list that I would arrow through I can tab to each one. After all the suggestions there is the usual ignore once, ignore all, and add to dictionary.

HTH,

Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kendra Schaber
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

Hi all!

What ever happened to the suggestions list on the spell checker for Word? I like the speech aspects of the proof reader but that suggestions list is a tool I need to survive my writing requirements in the mainstreme world.

Ass the result of attending school, I have discovered that Writing is one of my gifts. On the other hand, I have eighth grade spelling. Because of my eighth grade spelling, I’m currently working on improving my spelling where it is possible.

Thank you for taking the time to read this email!

Blessed Be!

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Vice-President of the Oregon Association of Blind Students(ORABS)

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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 17:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How does speech and sound scheme really work?

The Speech and sound scheme was a feature that was introduced in 2003 in Jaws 5.0. It is like a virtual proofreader. You can Press Insert+Ault+S to bring up the list of Speech and Sound options. and customize how ever the way you want it to read your screen.

Thanks for asking.

Best Regards

Michael Munn

Re: For JAWS Users: Leasey Total Package Available At a Reduced Price

David Griffith

#74487

Thanks – Is there a similar discount available for Advanced or is only Total available?

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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From: David Goldfield
Sent: 24 December 2019 03:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: For JAWS Users: Leasey Total Package Available At a Reduced Price

David, you will find the discount here.

https://www.hartgenconsultancy.com/store.php?rn=639&action=show_detail

Re: For JAWS Users: Leasey Total Package Available At a Reduced Price

Mike B.

#74486

Hi David,

I ordered the Total package and did indeed receive the discount. Below is the pertinent order info.

Leasey Total Package Single User License
list of 1 items
JAWS Serial Number: ******
list end
Base Price:
£50.00
Quantity: 1 @
£50.00
£50.00
Payment Method:
Product total:
Grand total:
£50.00
£50.00
table end

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

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----- Original Message -----

From: David Griffith

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 7:17 PM

Subject: Re: For JAWS Users: Leasey Total Package Available At a Reduced Price

I was interested in this but when I followed the link and found the pricing page I found different information which seems to indicate that there has been no price reduction or possibly that the price reduction has expired.

I copy the relevant bit from the webpage as of a couple of minutes ago.

• Leasey Total Package: £75 (approximately 100 American Dollars), includes menus and help spoken by Leasey together with full Getting Started DAISY Talking

Book for computer beginners.

• LeaseyAdvanced, £50 (approximately 66 American Dollars). Contains access to all of Leasey’s tools, utilities and services, but Leasey will not speak

using her own voice. The DAISY Getting Started guide is also not part of this package.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: 23 December 2019 22:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: For JAWS Users: Leasey Total Package Available At a Reduced Price

Hello. I sent the following message to the mailing list for the Philadelphia Computer Users Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired, which I moderate, and wanted to send it here, as well.

From now until December 27 Hartgen Consultancy is offering Leasey Total for 50 British pounds, which is around $67 U.S. dollars. It is very difficult to concisely summarize what this program does as it's a Swiss army knife filled with tons of tools and utilities. Leasey Total comes with two modules, Leasey Basic and Leasey Advanced.

Leasey Basic is for users who might consider themselves to be extreme novices, very new to computers or perhaps users who just want a systematic, predictable way of accessing the main programs on their computer. Instead of dealing with the Windows start menu or the desktop there is a dedicated menu known as the Leasey menu, which is read by a human voice. This menu includes items such as Surf the Internet, Write a Document or Letter, Check Your Email, Listen to the Radio, etc. It also offers context sensitive help, using the same human speech which is offered in the menus. Leasey Basic might also be helpful for users with cognitive difficulties. It also comes with a training tutorial covering the basic features and is honestly one of the best training tutorials I have heard in quite some time.

Leasey Advanced dispenses with the simplified menus and returns your computer to its normal state with the start menu and desktop. It offers a ton of additional features. Features that I personally like are:

Leasey Texts. This is a bit like the text expansion feature found in Word except that you can use it globally. You can create a list of shortcuts which can type in a pre-written piece of text, such as a shopping list, signature to a letter, etc. You can also assign an abbreviation to a Leasey text, such as typing the letters sig to type a signature.

Leasey clips allow you to save up to twelve pieces of text to areas not unlike the clipboard. Each clip can be recalled, pasted anywhere and they are available even with a computer restart.

Leasey Clock includes an alarm, countdown timer, stopwatch and even some very nice Westminster chimes.

Leasey Radio offers a built-in radio tuner, available anywhere.

It offers so much more but those are just a few of its features. Leasey Central offers far more detailed information about this software.

I know I've mentioned this program quite a bit in the past year. For the record I am not affiliated with Hartgen Consultancy. Brian Hartgen and I are nothing more than professionals in this industry. We have never met, never worked with one another and I get absolutely no commission from any sales which my messages might generate. I just feel that he's made some positive and unique contributions in this space which are very beneficial to users of JAWS and I just want to let everyone know about what he offers.

--

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

Re: For JAWS Users: Leasey Total Package Available At a Reduced Price

David Goldfield

#74485

David, you will find the discount here.

https://www.hartgenconsultancy.com/store.php?rn=639&action=show_detail

Re: For JAWS Users: Leasey Total Package Available At a Reduced Price

David Griffith

#74484