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moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

Mich Verrier
 

The synth that Stephen Hawking used was from a CallText 5010 speech system and hear’s a interesting artickle about it.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/597390626/an-engineers-quest-to-save-stephen-hawkings-voice

from Mich.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: November 25, 2019 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

The song “Keep Talking” has samples of Steven hawking speaking through his synth. Don’t really know what it is but, it sounds rather like a Dectalk to me, with some slightly different inflection.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: November 25, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Doesn’t Pink Floyd use a synth in one of their songs?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:33 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Venom’s album Cast in Stone also used a sample of the speak and spell saying “I win”. I laughed when I recognised that.

 

Anyway like I said in a previous message, it uses the same chip as the Echo speech synth. Yes, it sounds different, but that’s because of how the chip is programmed. You could make some of the echos sound like this too but it usually took more tweaking and effort than it was worth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Cool, Thanks Richard.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:31 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.

 

. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version.

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.

Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM

Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Hi,

I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.

I would like to know the name of the synth used.

I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.

The link will download the song.

Glenn


moderated Re: [Suspected Spam] Re: Edge? Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

Van Lant, Robin
 

So many of the quick keys don't work in Edge, so, while it works, it's just not a great experience.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [Suspected Spam] Re: Edge? Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

I'm an Edge user and it works wonderfully with Jaws. I do experience quite a bit of browser crashing, though I don't believe that has anything to do with Jaws or accessiblity.

On 11/20/2019 7:34 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion ----- - I will add search everything from void tools to the Master List - perhaps even try it myself.
In relation to Edge I would like to invite other comments. I don't routinely use Edge myself but left it in for the time being for two reason.
1. FS claim that they support Edge - I am not sure if the Edge support settings still exists in Jaws or whether these are default now.
2. Edge is not being abandoned. Reports from the Windows Insider is that the next Chromium based Edge Browser is actually apparently working really well with screenreaders including jaws.

If there is wider support for excluding Edge I will go with the consensus and remove it for now but it seems it will have to be introduced with the next release of Windows anyway.
David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: 20 November 2019 01:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

I have an issue with edge being included in the list. It is barely passable. and is being dropped by MS anyway. I would also suggest search everything from void tools as it is completly accessible and works better than windows search.On 11/19/2019 12:53 PM, David Griffith wrote:
OK here is a first stab at a categorised master list below.
The final list will probably have the categories rearranged but this is a first draft only.


Microsoft Store Apps
World Clock
KNFB Reader (Paid)

Office
Word - all versions (Paid)
Jarte + (Free and Paid versions)
Excel all versions. (Paid)
Wordpad (included with Windows )
Notepad (included with Windows )

Email and Messenging
Microsoft Outlook all versions. (Paid) Windows Mail (included with
Windows ) Thunderbird (Free) TW Blue Twitter Client. (Free or
donation) Microsoft People (included with Windows ) Outlook Address
Book View. (allows more reliable and easier viewing and saving of
contacts) (Free)

Cloud Storage
DropBox (Free and Paid)
OneDrive (Free and Paid)
SendSpace Wizard (Free and Paid)
Open Drive Desktop client.(Free and Paid)
iCloud also (for transfer to iPhone and iPad)(Free and Paid)

Programming- Web Development
Cisco Jabber
Cisco Jabber softphone accessible with JAWS scripts available on
Cisco website Oracle applications Oracle Enterprise suite (can
confirm the accessibility on Finance module which works after
installing Java –both 32 bit & 64 bit)

Podcasts and News readers.
RSS Reader (Webbie Accessibility Suite) (Free) QCastv (paid) Podcast
downloader (Webbie Accessibility Suite) (Free)

Compression and File Utility
7-Zip (Free)
DirZip (for creating separate zips of several folders in a directory.
(Free) SyncBack Free (Back up utility) Free and paid versions)
Explorer ++ (Fast alternative to File Explorer) (Free) Master Seeker
(Fast file finder) (Free) Bulk Rename Utility (Multiple File rename)
(Free) Copy Path - Copy file path to clipboard from application menu.
(Free) Copy file Names (Can copy multiple filenames from selected
files to clipboard via application key.) (Free)

OCR and Scanning
ABBYY FineReader 12(paid)
Kurzweil V14. (paid)
Open Book (paid)

Audio and CD Tools
Audacity )Free )
GoldWave (Free and Paid versions)
Format Factory (File Conversion)(Free) Switch File Conversion. (paid)
FreeM4B to Mp3 converter (Need to use Jaws Cursor) (Free) Ponte's
Media Downloader (Youtube downloader) (Free) Virtual Recorder
(Records output from sound card)(Free) Mp3DirectCut (Free)
Mp3Gain(Free)
Mp3Tag (Free)
CDex 1.71 (CD Ripper)(Free)
CD Burner XP (CD Burner (Free)
DVD Audio Extractor (Paide)

Daisy and Audio Book Software
FSReader 3 (Included with Jaws)
HumanWare Companion (For Victor reader Devices) (Free) Daisy Book
Generator (Converts Audio Books into Daisy Books) (Free) Audible
Manager and downloader (Now buggy as not updated - need to install
Windows 7/8 Versions.) (Free) Inaudible Audible book Converter
(Free) OverDrive for Windows (Free) Plextext transfer (For use with
Pllextalk Daisy Readers)(Free)

eBook reading
Kindle PC app all versions (Free)
QRead (Paid)
Balabolka (eBook TTS Reader) (Free)
Bookworm ) (Free)
FSReader (included with Jawws)
SpeakOn Media Suite (Free)
Codex eBook Converter. (Free)
TextAloud 3 (Creates TTS Audio Books from eBooks) (Paid)

Music radio and Media Players
VLC (Free)
WinAmp (Free)
Windows Media Player included With Windows) iTunes (Needs column
browser enabled for use with screenreader) (Free) BBC iPlayer TV
(Webbie) (Free) BBC iPlayer Radio (Webbie) (Free) SpeakOn Media Suite
(Free) Tapin Radio (Free and Paid versions) Spotify (Free and paid
versions)

Speech TTS
Eloquence (paid)
Ivona Voices. (paid)

Other Utilities
Belarc Advisor ) (Diagnostics) (Free) Unchecki (Stops Adware and
Malware by unchecking boxes in
installs)(Free)
Clock2 (Clock announce , reminder and alarm(Webbie Accessibility
Suite) (Free) CloseAll (Closes all windows and applications
running)(Free) Team Viewer (Remote Screen sharing) (Free for clients)
Sharp Keys (For remapping keyboard) (Free) Irfanview (Image viewing
and editing Software.) (Free)

Web Browsers (all free)
Google chrome
Brave
Firefox
Waterfox
Internet explorer (included with Windows) edge (included with
Windows)


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 19 November 2019 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

right, keep it as simple as possible. sounds good. let this list continue as started.


-------- Original Message --------
From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, November 18, 2019, 8:33 PM
Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs I do think we should
start simple rather than get bogged down. But I also think that
over time we could develop something more useful.
For example I don't agree that the list should or must get too long
provided we develop the right presentation.
In this case it should be very easy right from the start to devise
categories of app with simple headings.
For example
Office Productivity
Email and Messaging.
Audio and Video Tools
File Management and Compression
Media Players
Microsoft Store Apps
Inbuilt Windows apps
Games
and so on an so on.
We could hopefully agree as a group on this list what the most
logical categories are.
There would then be relatively few programs and apps in each category
and people could jump to the category they are most interested in by
a press of the H key.

Eventually a short description and information on how to obtain the app
would in my view also be good including a download link if possible.

In terms of reliability/authenticity / validity of app suggestions I
would not take too heavy a hand. Perhaps this could be best managed
in the future by an option to post comments which could query the
suitability of an app posting and any possible problems with using it.

For the present, before we find out how to develop a formal web page
comment facility , we could immediately instead simply use our
existing email list here to discuss whether an app is really
suitable for the accessible program resource list.

People who disagree that an app is accessible could express their
concerns here and other defend / explain how they manage to use the app.
Hopefully a consensus could then be reached with possibly some
clarifying access strategies included in the app/program description.
In the unlikely event such an initiative is abused I guess we need to
agree someone to have responsibility for removing app suggestions to
the program list. but I would anticipate that this would be rarely if
ever needed and instead a light touch rather than a heavy handed
approach would hopefully suffice. We are hopefully all grown up.
This is all down the line though and I hope negative worries do not
bog us down. We need just a simple platform to host a list in the
first place I think, and work from there.
I am sure many would find it immediately useful even in this stripped
down initial presentation of a categorised list.
I am happy to help with some legwork but I think it should be a
group initiative really plus my web page skills are presently
restricted to just running a Word Press blog.
David Griffith

they -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 18 November 2019 21:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

if this list is going to continue, at some point, the list is going
to get too long.

I thought a wiki is a webpage where members can contribute to a
project of some sort. the concern is that someone can unintentionally
add something that is inaccurate, not up to date, or misleading. so,
that creates the question, is someone going to be in charge of
maintaining the wiki to make sure the information is correct?

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@teksavvy.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, November 18, 2019, 3:32 PM
Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs Well, the idea is
interesting and, in response to Randy or someone else who posted on
this topic, I started writing a list of the stuff I have on here.
But if not a wiki, or something along a similar concept, what do you
suggest?
I mean, the whole point would be that users could contribute, no?
otherwise, the project wouldn't really get off the ground -- it would
just be one or two guys' opinions on what programmes work well on
their homepage, and, as you say, "who wants that?" :P


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: November 18, 2019 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

I agree there should be a central repository (website) where members
or non members who are blind or visually impaired could read about a
program and save it to their computer if they want to use a copy, but
I disagree it should be connected to a wiki page. I was participating
in a group discussion (a few years ago) and we decided to create a
wiki page with alot of information about our discussions but hardly
anyone wanted to spend the time to contribute to the wiki. plus,
using a wiki where members can post inaccurate information about a
program or procedure, and who wants that.



-------- Original Message --------
From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, November 18, 2019, 10:18 AM
Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs Many thanks

I have saved your additions and will create a master list.

I agree that a short description would be helpful.

Also eventually a download link or advice on how to get the
application would also be helpful I think,.

Someone suggested that a Wiki page may be available to this list
which may host this information.

I don’t know if anybody knows if this is true and whether or how we
could use it for such a purpose.

Thanks again

David Griffith

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *ARORA
Meesha
*Sent:* 18 November 2019 08:31
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

Thanks David, it’s a good start. It will also give us idea about
using various JAWS compatible programs which may be useful to us
other than we are currently using. Perhaps a small description can be
added to those which are not obvious in their use.I have added two
extra –Cisco Jabber & Oracle applications

Thanks

Meesha

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *David
Griffith
*Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2019 3:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

I followed my own advice and reproduce the list of programs on my
system that I have used at least once or twice with Jaws can think
is accessible. Some programs I have used more than others. I have
used MP3Direct cut hundreds of times but Audacity less so if people
want any clarification of the programs I use then the amount of
feedback I will be able to give will vary.

By the way in creating the application folder tip I gave earlier I
forgot to remember that you get more joy arrowing rightwards rather
than with the down arrow in reading what all your installed apps are.

Anyway here we go as a start list.

N.B rather than reproduce all these People could perhaps add programs
that they are using to this list and I can try and consolidate it all
into a master list.

Programs I am personally using with Jaws.

7-Zip

ABBYY FineReader 12

Audacity

Audible Manager and downloader

Balabolka (eBook TTS Reader)

BBC iPlayer TV (Webbie)

BBC iPlayer Radio (Webbie)

Belarc Advisor (Diagnostics)

Brave Browser

Bookworm (eBook reader – only just installed)

Bulk Rename Utility

CDex 1.71 (CD Ripper)

CD Burner XP (CD Burner – have only used to limited extent)

CloseAll (Closes all windows and applications running)

Clock2 (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Copy file Names

Copy Path

Codex eBook Converter.

Cisco Jabber softphone accessible with JAWS scripts available on
Cisco website

Daisy Book Generator

DirZip (for creating separate zips of several folders in a directory.

Dropbox

DVD Audio Extractor

Eloquence

Excel

Explorer ++

Firefox Portable

Format Factory (File Conversion)

FreeM4B to Mp3 converter

FSReader 3

GoldWave

Google Chrome

Humanware Companion (For Victor reader Devices)

Internet Explorer

Inaudible Audible book Converter

iCloud (for transfer to iPone and iPad)

iTunes

IrfanView (image viewer- now only use to Jaws OCR on)

Jarte +(Wordpad Replacement with spellchecker and other features)

Jaws 2019

JAWS 2020

Kindle Accessible Version

Kurzweil 1000 v. 14

NVDA

Mail

Master Seeker (Fast file finder)

Microsoft Edge

Mp3Directcut (easy editing of mp3 files)

MP3Gain(increase volume of mp3 files)

MP3Tag (edit and quickly create mp3 ags)

Narrator

Notepad

Office

OneDrive

Outlook

Outlook Address Book View. (allows more reliable and easier viewing
and saving of contacts)

Open Book

Oracle Enterprise suite (can confirm the accessibility on Finance
module which works after installing Java –both 32 bit & 64 bit)

QCast (Podcast downloader)

QRead (eBook Reader)

OverDrive for Windows

People

Ponte's Media Downloader (Youtube downloader)

Podcast downloader (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Plextext transfer (For use with Pllextalk Daisy Readers)

RSS Reader (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Sendspace Wizard

Sharp Keys (For remapping keyboard)

Speak On Media Suite (For accessing RNIB Newspapers etc)

Spotify

SyncBack Free (Back up utility)

Switch (Media Converter)

Task Manager

Tapin Radio

TextAloud 3 (Creates TTS Audio Books)

Team Viewer (Remote Screen sharing)

TWBlue (Twitter Client)

Unchecki (Stops Adware and Malware by unchecking boxes in installs)

VLC media player

Windows Media Player

Waterfox Portable

Word

WordPad

Virtual Recorder (Records output from sound car)

Hope we can start something here.

of

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*From: *David Griffith via Groups.Io
<mailto:daj.griffith=gmail.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *15 November 2019 14:12
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion.

As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could
list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws.

I can offer one tip to make it easier to establish which app people
have on their system. Someone might have a better idea.

If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows
R run dialogue,

shell:AppsFolder command

and press enter

This will open a list view with all the apps you have on your system.

You can simply arrow down to review then all.

Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use
the context key to create a shortcut .

For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps,
after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space ,
then H and you should see the list of apps you have arrowed down in
a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing
control a and then control c.

Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for
about
10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps
into your notepad file.

Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system.

As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution.

In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know
don’t work with Jaws.

Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they
work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have
this app on your system.

I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or
criticise the resulting list I have.

David Griffith

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Windows 10

*From: *ARORA Meesha <mailto:meesha.arora@soprasteria.com>
*Sent: *15 November 2019 13:24
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it
didn’t work on other apps I tried.

As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS
accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we
can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we
can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs
or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to
the next version and share it in this group.

Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource
is available through Vispero.

Thanks

Meesha

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *David
Griffith
*Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store
but I was not sure you would be able to use it. I am especially
pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think
the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and
Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed to work with Jaws.

There is something called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility
Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as
well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list
website but this seems defunct now and will not load here. Tom
Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent
sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this for the community I guess but if anybody
has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some
program suggestions and comments.

David Griffith

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *ARORA
Meesha
*Sent:* 15 November 2019 08:26
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and
it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones
although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more
than five, not that I need that manyJ

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *David
Griffith
*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock applications or
Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set a website like this up to your desired time zone
you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit
of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the
windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search
for World Clock apps rather than clock apps as normal clock
applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

David Griffith

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*From: *ARORA Meesha <mailto:meesha.arora@soprasteria.com>
*Sent: *14 November 2019 07:35
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then
navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for
one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Van
Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time,
but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of
your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the
system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks. I
usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system
tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle
around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *ARORA
Meesha
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one
of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

Richard Turner
 

Stephen Hawking's synth was Perfect Paul, which was either Decktalk or Double Talk, but I suspect DekTalk.
There was a really good interview with the daughter of the synth inventor and Stephen HawkingS daughter on the BBC in context of doing a history on the synth this morning, which I think was a rebroadcast.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 25, 2019, at 8:11 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:



Interesting, Glenn … didn’t know all this.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I guess at one time the folks who assisted Stephen Hawking with his synthesizer told him that they could put in a more human sounding one and he declined, and they worked hard to find the Dectalks to keep his going.  The only thing he did not like about it was the American accent.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

The song “Keep Talking” has samples of Steven hawking speaking through his synth. Don’t really know what it is but, it sounds rather like a Dectalk to me, with some slightly different inflection.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: November 25, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Doesn’t Pink Floyd use a synth in one of their songs?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:33 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Venom’s album Cast in Stone also used a sample of the speak and spell saying “I win”. I laughed when I recognised that.

 

Anyway like I said in a previous message, it uses the same chip as the Echo speech synth. Yes, it sounds different, but that’s because of how the chip is programmed. You could make some of the echos sound like this too but it usually took more tweaking and effort than it was worth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Cool, Thanks Richard.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:31 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.

 

. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version.

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.

Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM

Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Hi,

I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.

I would like to know the name of the synth used.

I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.

The link will download the song.

Glenn


moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

JM Casey
 

Interesting, Glenn … didn’t know all this.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I guess at one time the folks who assisted Stephen Hawking with his synthesizer told him that they could put in a more human sounding one and he declined, and they worked hard to find the Dectalks to keep his going.  The only thing he did not like about it was the American accent.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

The song “Keep Talking” has samples of Steven hawking speaking through his synth. Don’t really know what it is but, it sounds rather like a Dectalk to me, with some slightly different inflection.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: November 25, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Doesn’t Pink Floyd use a synth in one of their songs?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:33 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Venom’s album Cast in Stone also used a sample of the speak and spell saying “I win”. I laughed when I recognised that.

 

Anyway like I said in a previous message, it uses the same chip as the Echo speech synth. Yes, it sounds different, but that’s because of how the chip is programmed. You could make some of the echos sound like this too but it usually took more tweaking and effort than it was worth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Cool, Thanks Richard.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:31 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.

 

. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version.

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.

Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM

Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Hi,

I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.

I would like to know the name of the synth used.

I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.

The link will download the song.

Glenn


moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

Glenn / Lenny
 


I guess at one time the folks who assisted Stephen Hawking with his synthesizer told him that they could put in a more human sounding one and he declined, and they worked hard to find the Dectalks to keep his going.  The only thing he did not like about it was the American accent.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

The song “Keep Talking” has samples of Steven hawking speaking through his synth. Don’t really know what it is but, it sounds rather like a Dectalk to me, with some slightly different inflection.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: November 25, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Doesn’t Pink Floyd use a synth in one of their songs?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:33 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Venom’s album Cast in Stone also used a sample of the speak and spell saying “I win”. I laughed when I recognised that.

 

Anyway like I said in a previous message, it uses the same chip as the Echo speech synth. Yes, it sounds different, but that’s because of how the chip is programmed. You could make some of the echos sound like this too but it usually took more tweaking and effort than it was worth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Cool, Thanks Richard.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:31 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.

 

. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version.

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.

Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM

Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Hi,

I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.

I would like to know the name of the synth used.

I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.

The link will download the song.

Glenn


moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

JM Casey
 

The song “Keep Talking” has samples of Steven hawking speaking through his synth. Don’t really know what it is but, it sounds rather like a Dectalk to me, with some slightly different inflection.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: November 25, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Doesn’t Pink Floyd use a synth in one of their songs?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:33 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Venom’s album Cast in Stone also used a sample of the speak and spell saying “I win”. I laughed when I recognised that.

 

Anyway like I said in a previous message, it uses the same chip as the Echo speech synth. Yes, it sounds different, but that’s because of how the chip is programmed. You could make some of the echos sound like this too but it usually took more tweaking and effort than it was worth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Cool, Thanks Richard.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:31 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.

 

. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version.

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.

Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM

Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Hi,

I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.

I would like to know the name of the synth used.

I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.

The link will download the song.

Glenn


moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

Marty Hutchings
 

Doesn’t Pink Floyd use a synth in one of their songs?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?
 

Venom’s album Cast in Stone also used a sample of the speak and spell saying “I win”. I laughed when I recognised that.

 

Anyway like I said in a previous message, it uses the same chip as the Echo speech synth. Yes, it sounds different, but that’s because of how the chip is programmed. You could make some of the echos sound like this too but it usually took more tweaking and effort than it was worth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Cool, Thanks Richard.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:31 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.

 

. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version.

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.

Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM

Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Hi,

I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.

I would like to know the name of the synth used.

I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.

The link will download the song.

Glenn


moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

ARORA Meesha
 

Ok, thanks for confirming.

Regards,

Meesha

 

From: Madano Lanberto <et.banano@...>
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...>
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Hello,
Sharp Keys v3.9 works well Windows 10 and accessible with JAWS and NVDA.
Again, you can undo your changes by simply deleting the entry and rewrite the registry.

Regards
Lanberto

On 25 November 2019 12:49:12 p.m. "ARORA Meesha" <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Ah, ok, thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I have use shop keys on all my windows in store for about 10 years now. It has never given me a problem I think they give the standard warning that you should back up the window registry before you apply any changes. However I must confess I never bother doing this myself.


On 25 Nov 2019, at 11:14, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Many Thanks David, That seems simpleJ

Just one query, making changes in the registry cause any problems? And can we revert to default setting using the same app?

Thank you.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 


moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

JM Casey
 

Venom’s album Cast in Stone also used a sample of the speak and spell saying “I win”. I laughed when I recognised that.

 

Anyway like I said in a previous message, it uses the same chip as the Echo speech synth. Yes, it sounds different, but that’s because of how the chip is programmed. You could make some of the echos sound like this too but it usually took more tweaking and effort than it was worth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: November 25, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Cool, Thanks Richard.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:31 AM

Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.

 

. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version. 

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.

Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM

Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Hi,

I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.

I would like to know the name of the synth used.

I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.

The link will download the song.

Glenn


moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

Madano Lanberto
 

Hello,
Sharp Keys v3.9 works well Windows 10 and accessible with JAWS and NVDA.
Again, you can undo your changes by simply deleting the entry and rewrite the registry.

Regards
Lanberto

On 25 November 2019 12:49:12 p.m. "ARORA Meesha" <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Ah, ok, thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I have use shop keys on all my windows in store for about 10 years now. It has never given me a problem I think they give the standard warning that you should back up the window registry before you apply any changes. However I must confess I never bother doing this myself.


On 25 Nov 2019, at 11:14, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Many Thanks David, That seems simpleJ

Just one query, making changes in the registry cause any problems? And can we revert to default setting using the same app?

Thank you.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 


moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

Glenn / Lenny
 


Cool, Thanks Richard.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.


. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version. 

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.
Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:


I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM
Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?
 
Hi,
I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.
I would like to know the name of the synth used.
I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.
The link will download the song.
Glenn


moderated Re: thunder bird.

Mario
 

did you choose classic layout and turned off the message pane? press f8
to disable the message pane, and to choose classic layout, press alt+v,
l, c.

-------- Original Message --------
From: michaeel's mail [mailto:michaelandjeanie@aapt.net.au]
To: new jaws help list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, November 25, 2019, 1:02 AM
Subject: thunder bird.
Hi guys i seam to have stuffed thunder bird up.
Wile i am in the inbox jaws reads find.
But if i go to reply or start a new email their seams to be 2 rows or
windows open.
So in the email i am typing seams to be a small window cos of the 2
windows being open.
So jaws basicly says only a couple  of words on each line instead of
having lots of words on each line.
I may not have explaned my self that good.
But a sighted person just said i have 2 windows open at same time.
And i have it maxamized.
Cheers


moderated Re: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

Richard Turner
 

I did some research and found the answer to this question through Wikipedia.


. Limp Bizkit's arrangement is notable for featuring a Speak & Spell during the bridge.[10] This, together with a new verse and an extra chorus, replaces the rock theme of The Who's version. 

For those who do not know what a Speak and Spell is, it was a hand-held device made in the late 1970's by Texas Instruments as an educational tool. I had bought one for my Great Niece.

There is a good article on Texas Instruments and the speak and spell on Wikipedia as well.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 It sounds like the old Double Talk voice, which is also on the Triple Talk hardware synth.
Not sure of course as it has been a long time since I used the hardware synth.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:


I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM
Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?
 
Hi,
I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.
I would like to know the name of the synth used.
I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.
The link will download the song.
Glenn


moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

ARORA Meesha
 

Ah, ok, thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I have use shop keys on all my windows in store for about 10 years now. It has never given me a problem I think they give the standard warning that you should back up the window registry before you apply any changes. However I must confess I never bother doing this myself.


On 25 Nov 2019, at 11:14, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Many Thanks David, That seems simpleJ

Just one query, making changes in the registry cause any problems? And can we revert to default setting using the same app?

Thank you.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 


moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

David Griffith
 

I have use shop keys on all my windows in store for about 10 years now. It has never given me a problem I think they give the standard warning that you should back up the window registry before you apply any changes. However I must confess I never bother doing this myself.


On 25 Nov 2019, at 11:14, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Many Thanks David, That seems simpleJ

Just one query, making changes in the registry cause any problems? And can we revert to default setting using the same app?

Thank you.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 


moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

ARORA Meesha
 

Many Thanks David, That seems simpleJ

Just one query, making changes in the registry cause any problems? And can we revert to default setting using the same app?

Thank you.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 


moderated Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

ARORA Meesha
 

Hi Marty,

Please press Windows+B and navigate to system clock in the notification area and then press spacebar to open the settings. Please tab until you find Date and time settings and press spacebar which will open another dialog box and there after pressing tab key few times, you will find an option –additional time & date & regional settings from where you can add another clock. You can specify the time zone list to select accordingly.

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

How do I get a second clock to appear on the system tray?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 2:38 AM

Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi,

I would like to share the steps to make JAWS announce time for two time zones from the system clock in the notification area if any one finds it useful. We don’t need to use any third party app for this purpose now.

1.            While on the Notification area/System Tray press Insert + 6 on the numbers row.

2.            Type  Verbosity.

3.            Arrow to Configure Verbosity levels.

4.            Press F6.

5.            Select the verbosity level you   you are currently using. In my case I am using beginner verbosity.

6.            Press Space.

7.            Type T for tool tip.

8.            Next Press Space to check this option.

9.            Tab to OK and Press Enter.

10.          Press Shift + F6.

11.          Now Press Windows B to go to the Notification area.

12.          Arrow to the clock JAWS should read the two clocks.

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated thunder bird.

michaeel's mail
 

Hi guys i seam to have stuffed thunder bird up.
Wile i am in the inbox jaws reads find.
But if i go to reply or start a new email their seams to be 2 rows or windows open.
So in the email i am typing seams to be a small window cos of the 2 windows being open.
So jaws basicly says only a couple  of words on each line instead of having lots of words on each line.
I may not have explaned my self that good.
But a sighted person just said i have 2 windows open at same time.
And i have it maxamized.
Cheers


moderated Re: FS Reader 3 Crashing

MohammadAfzal
 

Hi,

If your FS reader is not working properly then you can repair FS reader for . if you want to access another app then,  You may try Easy Daisy reader for that

Mohammed AFzal

On 24-11-2019 03:56, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019, fully updated.  I have a laptop running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, and a desktop running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - both fully updated.

 

When running FS Reader 3 on either computer, if I press JAWSKey+DownArrow to “say all,” JAWS crashes, then restarts and then FS Reader freezes.  On the laptop with Windows 7, most often FS Reader and JAWS both crash after starting FS Reader and then trying to open a book.  Even if by some chance FS Reader opens the book on the laptop, it then crashes as previously described.

 

I have tried two different readers - Bookworm and QRead.  Neither seems good.  For example, neither seems to be able to read hyperlinked footnotes nor handle heading levels nor internal links - as does FS Reader (when working).  Primarily, this is all with DAISY eBooks; although I have also tried ePub and other formats all with the same problems.

 

So, does anyone have any recommendations for another DAISY reader?  Or, does anyone have any solution to these problems with FS Reader?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: FS Reader 3 Crashing

David Griffith
 

Have you made a complaint to FS?

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Norma A. Boge
Sent: 24 November 2019 22:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader 3 Crashing

 

Regarding QRead, can anyone explain what the difference is between demo and paid ($30) mode?

And now for an editorial comment:

FS Reader worked very well for me for years. Now it is problematic. IMHO another FS product which is basic but instead we get bells and whistles. Terrific.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader 3 Crashing

 

QRead is a good little program that really doesn’t need much if any support to it to keep working at this point.

It would of course be nice for it to get more updates and features, but as is, it does a solid job with ePub and other formats. PDF too.

I stopped using FSReader since QRead can handle not only Daisy, but all sorts of other formatted books as well.

I simply run the portable version of QRead from my Google Drive folder and thus am able to have synchronicity for all bookmarks and reading positions across my laptop/desktops where I’m signed in.

I know Kindle for PC has supposedly gotten a lot better with Jaws, but I’m reluctant to lock myself into the Kindle format/eco system as not every book I wish to read I can find in Kindle format and in general, again, don’t want to get more tied into Amazon stuff for every single service.

In general though, it would be great to have an eBook reading program that can also support things like notes, highlighting, footnotes with screen readers etc.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader 3 Crashing

 

 

Yes you are definitely right, QRead along with his other products has terrible support. Having said that QRead has been my eBook reader for years now and hopefully will continue to be so despite the fact that development seems to have ended. I also find QCast from the same stable works well on my system for the time being. They are the best of a limited range available for us I think.

 

Chicken Nugget has bit the dust and QFeed has also stopped working for me.

I think he is a talented programmer but has dreadful commitment to updating his software.

We are disadvantaged that the market eBook leader, Calibre, persists doggedly with a reading interface inaccessible  to Screen Readers.

 

On the other hand When I think about it at least 50% of the  other programs I regularly used were stopped from developing years ago, I use older versions of many programs but touch wood are still going strong. For example CDex 1.71,  Mp3DirectCut and Mp3Gain. I think some people  are still using WinAmp even though it stopped development years ago. I hope that QRead will be in the same category.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

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From: Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 23 November 2019 23:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader 3 Crashing

 

Hi David,

 

Well, you are probably right about QRead and heading levels.  But, I did not find footnotes and internal hyperlinks accessible with it.  Mostly, these limitations apply to DAISY books.  However, the biggest problem with QRead is that it seems to have been abandoned and no longer supported.  Several months ago, an email I sent to them was never answered.  Others have likewise reported that it is no longer supported.

 

Bye,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader 3 Crashing

 

I am sorry you have problems with  FS Reader but have heard other similarly complaining.  It does not sound like it is fit for purpose with eBooks.

 

I have never used FS Reader for eBooks- it certainly cannot cope with any of the  ePub books  I have just tried it with. I don’t have access to any text based Daisy Books to test it with. Where  do you get these from??

 

I am however, slightly confused by you saying QRead cannot handle heading levels.

I have just checked again with some ePub books, and provided the books have a heading structure these are easily accessed in QRead as normal by pressing control H which brings up the list of heading and allows you to navigate to them.

 

Balabolka is a free TTS based eBook reader which has a radically different interface and learning curve. You can however also access headings in this, as from memory Balabolka  creates  automatic bookmarks of each heading which you access with the, from memory F2 key but I would have to go back and check this.

 

With any web links in eBooks I always copy these out anyway but I suspect you are talking about internal links?

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 23 November 2019 22:27
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: FS Reader 3 Crashing

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019, fully updated.  I have a laptop running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, and a desktop running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - both fully updated.

 

When running FS Reader 3 on either computer, if I press JAWSKey+DownArrow to “say all,” JAWS crashes, then restarts and then FS Reader freezes.  On the laptop with Windows 7, most often FS Reader and JAWS both crash after starting FS Reader and then trying to open a book.  Even if by some chance FS Reader opens the book on the laptop, it then crashes as previously described.

 

I have tried two different readers - Bookworm and QRead.  Neither seems good.  For example, neither seems to be able to read hyperlinked footnotes nor handle heading levels nor internal links - as does FS Reader (when working).  Primarily, this is all with DAISY eBooks; although I have also tried ePub and other formats all with the same problems.

 

So, does anyone have any recommendations for another DAISY reader?  Or, does anyone have any solution to these problems with FS Reader?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

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