This doesn't have anything to do with JAWS, but I know that most of you are in the same boat that I am when it comes to wondering if a battery is good or not.  I need an audible battery tester for button batteries.  Any ideas?

Hi David,

Well, you are probably right about QRead and heading levels.  But, I did not find footnotes and internal hyperlinks accessible with it.  Mostly, these limitations apply to DAISY books.  However, the biggest problem with QRead is that it seems to have been abandoned and no longer supported.  Several months ago, an email I sent to them was never answered.  Others have likewise reported that it is no longer supported.

Bye,

Richard

I am sorry you have problems with  FS Reader but have heard other similarly complaining.  It does not sound like it is fit for purpose with eBooks.

I have never used FS Reader for eBooks- it certainly cannot cope with any of the  ePub books  I have just tried it with. I don’t have access to any text based Daisy Books to test it with. Where  do you get these from??

I am however, slightly confused by you saying QRead cannot handle heading levels.

I have just checked again with some ePub books, and provided the books have a heading structure these are easily accessed in QRead as normal by pressing control H which brings up the list of heading and allows you to navigate to them.

Balabolka is a free TTS based eBook reader which has a radically different interface and learning curve. You can however also access headings in this, as from memory Balabolka  creates  automatic bookmarks of each heading which you access with the, from memory F2 key but I would have to go back and check this.

With any web links in eBooks I always copy these out anyway but I suspect you are talking about internal links?

David Griffith

Hi!

I am using JAWS 2019, fully updated.  I have a laptop running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, and a desktop running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - both fully updated.

When running FS Reader 3 on either computer, if I press JAWSKey+DownArrow to “say all,” JAWS crashes, then restarts and then FS Reader freezes.  On the laptop with Windows 7, most often FS Reader and JAWS both crash after starting FS Reader and then trying to open a book.  Even if by some chance FS Reader opens the book on the laptop, it then crashes as previously described.

I have tried two different readers - Bookworm and QRead.  Neither seems good.  For example, neither seems to be able to read hyperlinked footnotes nor handle heading levels nor internal links - as does FS Reader (when working).  Primarily, this is all with DAISY eBooks; although I have also tried ePub and other formats all with the same problems.

So, does anyone have any recommendations for another DAISY reader?  Or, does anyone have any solution to these problems with FS Reader?

Thanks,

Richard

Hi!

I am using JAWS 2019, fully updated.  I have a laptop running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, and a desktop running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - both fully updated.

When running FS Reader 3 on either computer, if I press JAWSKey+DownArrow to “say all,” JAWS crashes, then restarts and then FS Reader freezes.  On the laptop with Windows 7, most often FS Reader and JAWS both crash after starting FS Reader and then trying to open a book.  Even if by some chance FS Reader opens the book on the laptop, it then crashes as previously described.

I have tried two different readers - Bookworm and QRead.  Neither seems good.  For example, neither seems to be able to read hyperlinked footnotes nor handle heading levels nor internal links - as does FS Reader (when working).  Primarily, this is all with DAISY eBooks; although I have also tried ePub and other formats all with the same problems.

So, does anyone have any recommendations for another DAISY reader?  Or, does anyone have any solution to these problems with FS Reader?

Thanks,

Richard

I am sorry you have problems with  FS Reader but have heard other similarly complaining.  It does not sound like it is fit for purpose with eBooks.

I have never used FS Reader for eBooks- it certainly cannot cope with any of the  ePub books  I have just tried it with. I don’t have access to any text based Daisy Books to test it with. Where  do you get these from??

I am however, slightly confused by you saying QRead cannot handle heading levels.

I have just checked again with some ePub books, and provided the books have a heading structure these are easily accessed in QRead as normal by pressing control H which brings up the list of heading and allows you to navigate to them.

Balabolka is a free TTS based eBook reader which has a radically different interface and learning curve. You can however also access headings in this, as from memory Balabolka  creates  automatic bookmarks of each heading which you access with the, from memory F2 key but I would have to go back and check this.

With any web links in eBooks I always copy these out anyway but I suspect you are talking about internal links?

David Griffith

Hi!

I am using JAWS 2019, fully updated.  I have a laptop running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, and a desktop running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - both fully updated.

When running FS Reader 3 on either computer, if I press JAWSKey+DownArrow to “say all,” JAWS crashes, then restarts and then FS Reader freezes.  On the laptop with Windows 7, most often FS Reader and JAWS both crash after starting FS Reader and then trying to open a book.  Even if by some chance FS Reader opens the book on the laptop, it then crashes as previously described.

I have tried two different readers - Bookworm and QRead.  Neither seems good.  For example, neither seems to be able to read hyperlinked footnotes nor handle heading levels nor internal links - as does FS Reader (when working).  Primarily, this is all with DAISY eBooks; although I have also tried ePub and other formats all with the same problems.

So, does anyone have any recommendations for another DAISY reader?  Or, does anyone have any solution to these problems with FS Reader?

Thanks,

Richard

Hi!

I am using JAWS 2019, fully updated.  I have a laptop running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, and a desktop running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - both fully updated.

When running FS Reader 3 on either computer, if I press JAWSKey+DownArrow to “say all,” JAWS crashes, then restarts and then FS Reader freezes.  On the laptop with Windows 7, most often FS Reader and JAWS both crash after starting FS Reader and then trying to open a book.  Even if by some chance FS Reader opens the book on the laptop, it then crashes as previously described.

I have tried two different readers - Bookworm and QRead.  Neither seems good.  For example, neither seems to be able to read hyperlinked footnotes nor handle heading levels nor internal links - as does FS Reader (when working).  Primarily, this is all with DAISY eBooks; although I have also tried ePub and other formats all with the same problems.

So, does anyone have any recommendations for another DAISY reader?  Or, does anyone have any solution to these problems with FS Reader?

Thanks,

Richard

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



I don’t know that synth, but I like the song and have downloaded it.  It is a very cool cover of the Who song.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:17 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Does Anyone Know This Synth?

 

Hi,

I know that some of you really know all the synthesizers, and there is this synthesizer used in a Limp Bizkit song, it spells out limp.

https://od.lk/d/N18xNjU1MDQ4OTJf/Limp%20Bizkit%20-%20Behind%20Blue%20Eyes.mp3

I would like to know the name of the synth used.

I think it sounds like the one in the movie War Games but I'm not sure.

The link will download the song.

Glenn

Hi,

yep, a Speak and Spell, popular in the mid to end 70s and in the 80s as well.
It had cartridges with different vocabulary on it, but you couldn't really use it as a computer synth. It was a stand-alone thing with some sort of capacitive buttons for kids to learn how to spell, made by Texas Instruments.
I think there even was a version with a complete Braille sheet to label all the buttons and make it accessible.

Regards,
Nermin

I'll go look for a cheaper plan if that is available. It sure is easy to
get very large files from you so I hope I find a plan at OpenDrive.

Thanks Glen,

James B



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 10:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Just go to opendrive.com and they have a handy tool to install and if you
have account privileges you can access the stored files like a folder with
copy and paste and you can even set folders on your computer to
automatically backup once a day.
I have unlimited storage for 100 dollars a year.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry, but the one that I got from you did not work. I did not try to burn
it to a DVD but I tried to write it to a flash drive with Rufus and
Universal USB Installer with no luck.

I assumed I was doing something wrong. It is still quite possible that I
was.

By-the-way, where can I get a copy of the Open Drive that you are useing?

Cheers,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Do you mean that the one I gave the link to never did work for you?
If so, I'd like to know if anyone else has had trouble with mine.
The file could have gotten corrupt in the upload to Open Drive.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling
Talking Win 7 PE.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak,
which I don't like, but hey, it works.
You used Carlos's WinPE.
Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be
as good as the other for whatever.
But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy
eSpeak.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program
that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10
Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart,
and
the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem,
is
not included.

Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on
this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have
Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send
me
your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace
and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts
and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone
in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I
do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and
all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was
able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now,
how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables
with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and
send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every
time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power
button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button
again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious
that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop
would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io"
<mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso
file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing
happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the
same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first
link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but
it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough
attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
<sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's
a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn
/ Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley"
<bentleyj1952@att.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even
remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line
and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get
on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next
boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE
and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against
the

spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be
able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand
firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you
can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
<sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they
can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they
can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when
those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party
I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way,
was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some
Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I
honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that
is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck
around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are
worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as
easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even
better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot
of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or
punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some
such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with
Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face
Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell
it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face
Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to
enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your
phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and
permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot
be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is
to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be
able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking
out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on
iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is
point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am
wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a
password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone
can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow
you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing
everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty
Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a
Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are
using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is
there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be
restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?

----------------------------------------

OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling
Talking Win 7 PE.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak,
which I don't like, but hey, it works.
You used Carlos's WinPE.
Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be
as good as the other for whatever.
But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy
eSpeak.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program
that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10
Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart,
and
the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem,
is
not included.

Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on
this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have
Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send
me
your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace
and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts
and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone
in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I
do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and
all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was
able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now,
how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables
with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and
send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every
time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power
button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button
again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious
that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop
would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io"
<mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso
file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing
happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the
same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first
link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but
it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough
attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
<sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's
a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn
/ Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley"
<bentleyj1952@att.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even
remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line
and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get
on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next
boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE
and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against
the

spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be
able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand
firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you
can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
<sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they
can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they
can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when
those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party
I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way,
was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some
Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I
honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that
is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck
around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are
worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as
easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even
better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot
of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or
punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some
such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with
Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face
Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell
it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face
Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to
enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your
phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and
permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot
be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is
to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be
able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking
out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on
iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is
point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am
wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a
password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone
can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow
you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing
everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty
Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a
Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are
using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is
there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be
restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?

----------------------------------------

I will give all my WinPE links here:
Bryan's Win7 WinPE with Eloquence, no extra utilities:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ4NTRf/twpe_r2_basic.ISO
Bryans Mega Win 7 WinPE, with Eloquence, no extra utilities, but has various versions of Windows boot.Wims for various Windows 7 versions which would be helpful for installing various versions of Windows:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDkwNjlf/twpe_r2_mega.ISO
Windows 7 X86 with eSpeak and utilities:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ4Njdf/Win7PE_x86.ISO
Windows 7 64 with eSpeak and utilities:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ4OTdf/Win7PE_x64.ISO
Windows 10 X86 with eSpeak and utilities:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
Windows 10 64 with eSpeak and utilities:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer

if the previous links were for Carlos's WinPE builds, could you please
post the links to get the ones from Brian and the steps to get started
and/or any other tips you can share?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 22, 2019, 9:31 PM
Subject: Used computer
I have Brian's too, and it uses the Eloquence, but it has no extra
utilities like the one I put up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on
this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have
Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user
accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me
or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of
Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have
achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly
places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I
was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB
drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly
places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able
to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as
executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and
send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every
time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power
button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button
again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was
obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had,
the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io"
<mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso
file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing
happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the
same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first
link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there,
but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough
attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
<sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate
it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit
version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley"
<bentleyj1952@att.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can
even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line
and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get
on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next
boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE
and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against
the

spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will
be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand
firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up,
you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
<sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if
they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when
those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas
party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way,
was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired
some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I
honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that
is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck
around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you
are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as
easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or,
even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a
lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or
punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some
such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with
Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with
Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to
sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face
Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to
enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your
phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and
permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also
cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working
is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will
be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking
out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on
iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is
point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am
wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a
password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone
can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow
you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing
everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty
Hutchings said:
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I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a
Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is
there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be
restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 10:48 AM

Subject: Re: WinPE Downloads, was Re: Used computer

Glenn,

          Just checking to see if it's your intention to leave these where they are "in perpetuity" at the moment.  [I realize that nothing is truly "in perpetuity."]

          I've made note of these links and won't bother downloading except on demand if you intend to leave these in place.  If this is a transitory hosting, then let me/us know and I'll be sure to create an archive of my own.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

if the previous links were for Carlos's WinPE builds, could you please
post the links to get the ones from Brian and the steps to get started
and/or any other tips you can share?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 22, 2019, 9:31 PM
Subject: Used computer
I have Brian's too, and it uses the Eloquence, but it has no extra
utilities like the one I put up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on
this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have
Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user
accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me
or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of
Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have
achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly
places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I
was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB
drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly
places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able
to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as
executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and
send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every
time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power
button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button
again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was
obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had,
the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io"
<mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso
file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing
happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the
same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first
link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny"
<glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there,
but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough
attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
<sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate
it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit
version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley"
<bentleyj1952@att.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can
even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line
and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get
on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next
boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE
and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against
the

spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will
be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand
firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up,
you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
<sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if
they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when
those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas
party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way,
was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired
some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I
honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that
is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck
around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you
are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as
easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or,
even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a
lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or
punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some
such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with
Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with
Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to
sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face
Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to
enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your
phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and
permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also
cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working
is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will
be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking
out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on
iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is
point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am
wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a
password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone
can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow
you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing
everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty
Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a
Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is
there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be
restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?

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