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Re: Used computer Mario #73865 if the previous links were for Carlos's WinPE builds, could you please post the links to get the ones from Brian and the steps to get started and/or any other tips you can share? toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -------- Original Message -------- From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, November 22, 2019, 9:31 PM Subject: Used computer I have Brian's too, and it uses the Eloquence, but it has no extra utilities like the one I put up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ---------------------------------------- .
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Re: Trouble reading email Brian Vogel #73864 My only guess: Adjusting Protected View Settings in MS-Office Programs -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner. ~ Eric Hoffer
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Trouble reading email Fred Adams #73863 I am using W 10, latest jaws and outlook 2019 for email and having the following problem. When I press enter to read an email jaws reads the heading which is name and subject and then stops and then says message read only and at this time I press insert key and down arrow and jaws reads the body of the email perfectly. I have checked every setting that I can think of many times over but nothing helps. Doing a reset does nothing. I would appreciate greatly any help on this as it is annoying but I can live with it if I have to. Thanks much,
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Re: Accessible app to map menu key David Griffith #73862 I can look at sharp keys options tomorrow when I have more time but off the top of my head if you go to the key to change drop down combo box and select the alt control key if it is there, then all you need to do is to go to the next list and select left alt as your remapped key. This will mean that in effect you will have 2 left alt keys mapped onto your keyboard layout physically arranged either side of your keyboard. I think this is what I do with the windows keys, in fact I have 2 left windows keys on my keyboard but to all practical purposes it is a right windows key and behaves as such. The same would be the case with 2 left alt keys. David Griffith should nevertheless Sent from Mail for Windows 10 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Dave Durber Sent: 22 November 2019 23:43 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Hello David: I installed Smartkeys this afternoon. I already have left and right Windows keys. On European keyboards, the right ALT is configured, by default, as a combined ALT+ctrl key. Because I have got use to the US keyboard layout, with left and right ALT keys. I find the ALT+CTRL key combination a very big annoyance, which is why, using SmartKeys, I would like to change this key combination to just being a right ALT key instead. Any ideas. Thank for any suggestions. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key I use sharp keys to convert it into a right windows key. It works great for me. David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dave Durber Sent: 22 November 2019 22:17 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Hello David: If it is possible, if you are using a UK keyboard, how do you change the right ALT key, which is set to being a combined ALT+CTRL key, to being just the right ALT key? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10. It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it with. In this case the application key – the list is alphabetical but this key might be preceded with the word special in the list. Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows. For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key by the space bar into a right windows keys. The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard. Off the top of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use which uses letters from the right hand side. In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T, Windows D, windows R,, windows S, windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand. My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key. I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ARORA Meesha Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01 To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link. On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote: Hi, I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key. Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it? I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS. Thanks Meesha
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Re: Used computer Dave Durber #73861 arty: You do have the Windows 10 TWPE because, it is the same one I downloaded using the link provided by Glen. This is the TWPe I am having trouble with getting to boot. Much of the additional software which comes with the TWPE for Windows 10, will also work for Windows 7. Dave Durber toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:26 AM Subject: Re: Used computer You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ----------------------------------------
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Re: Used computer James Bentley #73860 Sorry, but the one that I got from you did not work. I did not try to burn it to a DVD but I tried to write it to a flash drive with Rufus and Universal USB Installer with no luck. I assumed I was doing something wrong. It is still quite possible that I was. By-the-way, where can I get a copy of the Open Drive that you are useing? Cheers, James B toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Do you mean that the one I gave the link to never did work for you? If so, I'd like to know if anyone else has had trouble with mine. The file could have gotten corrupt in the upload to Open Drive. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Used computer OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak, which I don't like, but hey, it works. You used Carlos's WinPE. Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be as good as the other for whatever. But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ----------------------------------------
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Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS Sieghard Weitzel #73859 You can either go to Settings > Time and Language > Date and Time and tab until you get to Add clocks for different time zones, this will visually show these clock if you hover over the time with the mouse. If you have Beginner verbosity or enable Tooltips in Configure Verbosity (the last item in the list) and if you then go to the system tray with Windows Key + B and go to the clock Jaws will read the current/local time and date and up to 2 more time zones which you set as described above. You can, however, also open the Alarms and Clock app, go to the Clock tab (in this app you have tabs for Alarms, Clock, Timer and Stopwatch, and here you can add as many time zones as you like and they are displayed in a simple list view, local time on top and then alphabetically. The nice thing is that you can not only see the time in the place you specified, but it also tells you the offset from your local time. For example, I’m in pacific time and let’s say it’s 11 PM here. If I put in Frankfurt and Manila as additional clocks, I can arrow down the list and I first get to Frankfurt which would tell me it’s 8 AM the next day and that the time there is 9 hours ahead from where I am. Manila would tell me it’s 3 PM the next day and that it is 16 hours ahead. I almost never go to the system tray with Windows + B, usually I use Jaws Key + F11 and arrowing to the clock that way won’t give you the other times and neither will pressing Jaws Key + F12 which only gives you the current local time. If I have to press Windows Key + B, then arrow to the clock and let Jaws read me first my time and date and then the other times, I may as well set up a keyboard shortcut for the Alarm and Clock app which allows me to load it just with a keystroke similar to Windows Key + B, then instead of having to arrow a bunch of times and let Jaws read the information, I simply arrow left once to the Clock tab, press enter and tab one more time into the list view of the different time zones I have set up. Here I can immediately down arrow away from local time to my other times. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 12:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS How do I get a second clock to appear on the system tray? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 From: ARORA Meesha Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 2:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS Hi, I would like to share the steps to make JAWS announce time for two time zones from the system clock in the notification area if any one finds it useful. We don’t need to use any third party app for this purpose now. 1. While on the Notification area/System Tray press Insert + 6 on the numbers row. 2. Type Verbosity. 3. Arrow to Configure Verbosity levels. 4. Press F6. 5. Select the verbosity level you you are currently using. In my case I am using beginner verbosity. 6. Press Space. 7. Type T for tool tip. 8. Next Press Space to check this option. 9. Tab to OK and Press Enter. 10. Press Shift + F6. 11. Now Press Windows B to go to the Notification area. 12. Arrow to the clock JAWS should read the two clocks. Thanks Meesha From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store but I was not sure you would be able to use it. I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving. We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed to work with Jaws. There is something called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa. There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here. Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource? VFO Should really host this for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments. David Griffith From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more than five, not that I need that manyJ Thanks for the suggestion. Meesha From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock applications or Website? For example https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/ Once you have set a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this. In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ARORA Meesha Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one. Thanks Meesha From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks. I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS Hi members, Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS? 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Re: Used computer Glenn / Lenny #73858 I do have Win 7 PE too, but the 10 will work fine with 7, even for installing 7. You just want to stick to the 64 bit, you can do both 64 bit systems and 32 bit systems with the 64 bit copy. Glenn toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:13 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, The link that you gave is for Win 10 PE. I did not believe that that would work for Windows 7, so I did not use it. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Do you mean that the one I gave the link to never did work for you? If so, I'd like to know if anyone else has had trouble with mine. The file could have gotten corrupt in the upload to Open Drive. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Used computer OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak, which I don't like, but hey, it works. You used Carlos's WinPE. Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be as good as the other for whatever. But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ----------------------------------------
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Re: Used computer Marty Hutchings #73857 Glenn, The link that you gave is for Win 10 PE. I did not believe that that would work for Windows 7, so I did not use it. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Do you mean that the one I gave the link to never did work for you? If so, I'd like to know if anyone else has had trouble with mine. The file could have gotten corrupt in the upload to Open Drive. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Used computer OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak, which I don't like, but hey, it works. You used Carlos's WinPE. Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be as good as the other for whatever. But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ----------------------------------------
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Re: Used computer Glenn / Lenny #73856 Do you mean that the one I gave the link to never did work for you? If so, I'd like to know if anyone else has had trouble with mine. The file could have gotten corrupt in the upload to Open Drive. Glenn toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Used computer OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak, which I don't like, but hey, it works. You used Carlos's WinPE. Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be as good as the other for whatever. But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? 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Re: Used computer Marty Hutchings #73855 OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak, which I don't like, but hey, it works. You used Carlos's WinPE. Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be as good as the other for whatever. But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? 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Re: Used computer Glenn / Lenny #73854 Marty, Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak, which I don't like, but hey, it works. You used Carlos's WinPE. Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be as good as the other for whatever. But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak. Glenn toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? 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Re: Used computer Glenn / Lenny #73853 I have Brian's too, and it uses the Eloquence, but it has no extra utilities like the one I put up. Glenn toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? 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Re: Used computer Marty Hutchings #73852 You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ----------------------------------------
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Re: Used computer Dave Durber #73851 Marty: I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo. I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included. Dave durber toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ----------------------------------------
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Re: Accessible app to map menu key Dave Durber #73850 Hello David: I installed Smartkeys this afternoon. I already have left and right Windows keys. On European keyboards, the right ALT is configured, by default, as a combined ALT+ctrl key. Because I have got use to the US keyboard layout, with left and right ALT keys. I find the ALT+CTRL key combination a very big annoyance, which is why, using SmartKeys, I would like to change this key combination to just being a right ALT key instead. Any ideas. Thank for any suggestions. Dave Durber toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key I use sharp keys to convert it into a right windows key. It works great for me. David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dave Durber Sent: 22 November 2019 22:17 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Hello David: If it is possible, if you are using a UK keyboard, how do you change the right ALT key, which is set to being a combined ALT+CTRL key, to being just the right ALT key? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10. It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it with. In this case the application key – the list is alphabetical but this key might be preceded with the word special in the list. Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows. For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key by the space bar into a right windows keys. The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard. Off the top of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use which uses letters from the right hand side. In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T, Windows D, windows R,, windows S, windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand. My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key. I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ARORA Meesha Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01 To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link. On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote: Hi, I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key. Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it? I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS. Thanks Meesha
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Re: Used computer Marty Hutchings #73849 Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ----------------------------------------
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Re: Accessible app to map menu key David Griffith #73848 I use sharp keys to convert it into a right windows key. It works great for me. David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Dave Durber Sent: 22 November 2019 22:17 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Hello David: If it is possible, if you are using a UK keyboard, how do you change the right ALT key, which is set to being a combined ALT+CTRL key, to being just the right ALT key? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10. It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it with. In this case the application key – the list is alphabetical but this key might be preceded with the word special in the list. Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows. For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key by the space bar into a right windows keys. The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard. Off the top of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use which uses letters from the right hand side. In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T, Windows D, windows R,, windows S, windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand. My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key. I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ARORA Meesha Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01 To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link. On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote: Hi, I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key. Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it? I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS. Thanks Meesha
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Re: Used computer Dave Durber #73847 Hello Marty: If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@gmail.com, I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list. Dave durber toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Marty: Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I sure the original source was still up. The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with self-burning software. I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images. If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that to you to test for corruption. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Glen: Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Dave, Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me. It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files. I have even done this on external hard drives. https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hello Robert: After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi, Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot? Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA while running the Windows PE. If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10. On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Glen: I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did. I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot. Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Used computer Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one. BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too. https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another. I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer. The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention. As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@att.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Hi Glen, Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit? If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit? Regards, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer Marty, I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive. Here's a download link: https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the boot media after it starts. With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen to audio. It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line. You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it? Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it. That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece. I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can. As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3. Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not. As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do. The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer So would I. Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Durber Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Used computer This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Used computer try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch. Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said: ---------------------------------------- I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk? ----------------------------------------
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Re: Accessible app to map menu key Dave Durber #73846 Hello David: If it is possible, if you are using a UK keyboard, how do you change the right ALT key, which is set to being a combined ALT+CTRL key, to being just the right ALT key? toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10. It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it with. In this case the application key – the list is alphabetical but this key might be preceded with the word special in the list. Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows. For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key by the space bar into a right windows keys. The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard. Off the top of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use which uses letters from the right hand side. In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T, Windows D, windows R,, windows S, windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand. My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key. I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ARORA Meesha Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01 To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link. On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote: Hi, I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key. Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it? I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS. Thanks Meesha
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