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moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

I do have Win 7 PE too, but the 10 will work fine with 7, even for installing 7.
You just want to stick to the 64 bit, you can do both 64 bit systems and 32 bit systems with the 64 bit copy.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer



Glenn, The link that you gave is for Win 10 PE. I did not believe that that would work for Windows 7, so I did not use it.


Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Do you mean that the one I gave the link to never did work for you?
If so, I'd like to know if anyone else has had trouble with mine.
The file could have gotten corrupt in the upload to Open Drive.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak,
which I don't like, but hey, it works.
You used Carlos's WinPE.
Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be
as good as the other for whatever.
But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10
Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and
the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is
not included.

Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
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moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

Glenn, The link that you gave is for Win 10 PE. I did not believe that that would work for Windows 7, so I did not use it.


Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Do you mean that the one I gave the link to never did work for you?
If so, I'd like to know if anyone else has had trouble with mine.
The file could have gotten corrupt in the upload to Open Drive.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak,
which I don't like, but hey, it works.
You used Carlos's WinPE.
Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be
as good as the other for whatever.
But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10
Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and
the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is
not included.

Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------







































































moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

Do you mean that the one I gave the link to never did work for you?
If so, I'd like to know if anyone else has had trouble with mine.
The file could have gotten corrupt in the upload to Open Drive.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak,
which I don't like, but hey, it works.
You used Carlos's WinPE.
Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be
as good as the other for whatever.
But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10
Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and
the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is
not included.

Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------






































































moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

OK, I used one with eSpeak and NVDA. I actually got it by Googling Talking Win 7 PE.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak,
which I don't like, but hey, it works.
You used Carlos's WinPE.
Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be
as good as the other for whatever.
But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10
Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and
the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is
not included.

Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


































































moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

Marty,
Bryan's does not have any utilities, only the ones by Carlos, with eSpeak, which I don't like, but hey, it works.
You used Carlos's WinPE.
Other than the voice difference and the utilities difference, one would be as good as the other for whatever.
But I usually need the utilities, so I use Carlos's with the crappy eSpeak.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10
Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and
the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is
not included.

Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------

































































moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

I have Brian's too, and it uses the Eloquence, but it has no extra utilities like the one I put up.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------




























































moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

You are right. My bad. It was Brian Smart's Win 7 PE and the program that I used to unlock the passwords was NTPWEdit.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10
Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and
the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is
not included.

Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------





























































moderated Re: Used computer

Dave Durber
 

Marty:

I am pretty certain that Glen provided the links for the windows 10 Preinstall Environment, produced by Carlos Navareo.

I checked the Windows 7 preinstall Environment, produced by Bryan Smart, and the program file Glen suggested you use to solve your password problem, is not included.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
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moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

Dave Durber
 


Hello David:
 
I installed Smartkeys this afternoon.
 
I already have left and right Windows keys. On European keyboards, the right ALT is configured, by default, as a combined ALT+ctrl key. Because I have got use to the US keyboard layout, with left and right ALT keys. I find the  ALT+CTRL key combination a very big annoyance, which is why, using SmartKeys, I would like to change this key combination to just being a right ALT key instead. Any ideas.
 
Thank for any suggestions.
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I use sharp keys to convert it into a right windows key.

It works great for me.

David Griffith.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave Durber
Sent: 22 November 2019 22:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Hello David:

 

If it is possible, if you are using a UK keyboard, how do you change the right ALT key, which is set to being a combined ALT+CTRL key, to being just the right ALT key?

 

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM

Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 

 

moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

Thanks Dave, but I have that Win 7 PE. It was recommended by Glenn on this list. That is how I was able to get the computer cleaned up.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian
Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me
your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and
send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
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moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

David Griffith
 

 

I use sharp keys to convert it into a right windows key.

It works great for me.

David Griffith.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave Durber
Sent: 22 November 2019 22:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Hello David:

 

If it is possible, if you are using a UK keyboard, how do you change the right ALT key, which is set to being a combined ALT+CTRL key, to being just the right ALT key?

 

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM

Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 

 

moderated Re: Used computer

Dave Durber
 

Hello Marty:

If you did want to perform a fresh installation of Windows 7, I have Brian Smart's talking Window 7 Preinstall. If you would like it and you send me your email address to: d.durber@..., I can post it on Sendspace and send you the download link off-list.

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------























































moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

Dave Durber
 


Hello David:
 
If it is possible, if you are using a UK keyboard, how do you change the right ALT key, which is set to being a combined ALT+CTRL key, to being just the right ALT key?

 
 
Dave Durber
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 

moderated Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

Marty Hutchings
 

How do I get a second clock to appear on the system tray?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS
 

Hi,

I would like to share the steps to make JAWS announce time for two time zones from the system clock in the notification area if any one finds it useful. We don’t need to use any third party app for this purpose now.

1.            While on the Notification area/System Tray press Insert + 6 on the numbers row.

2.            Type  Verbosity.

3.            Arrow to Configure Verbosity levels.

4.            Press F6.

5.            Select the verbosity level you   you are currently using. In my case I am using beginner verbosity.

6.            Press Space.

7.            Type T for tool tip.

8.            Next Press Space to check this option.

9.            Tab to OK and Press Enter.

10.          Press Shift + F6.

11.          Now Press Windows B to go to the Notification area.

12.          Arrow to the clock JAWS should read the two clocks.

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

Dave, I was just trying to remove the password protected user accounts and all of their files, so the computer could be used by me or someone in my family. I wanted to preserve the installation of Windows 7, as I do not have a copy of it to reinstall. I have achieved this goal and all is good.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can
install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------



















































moderated Re: clarification on setting place markers on websites

Maria Campbell
 

In my humble opinion, place markers is one of the best aspects of JAWS and why I keep up with it.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 11/22/2019 11:40 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io wrote:

Thanks all.  Glad to understand this better.  I need to get better about using place markers for some of my more challenging internal company websites.  Funny how we can just forget about features.

It has already been a big help in our timekeeping system and I’m going to see if it will help with a couple other places that aren’t very accessible.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clarification on setting place markers on websites

 

Robin,

 

David and Maria have already addressed your questions. I can confirm that placemarkers do not work across browsers. One more thought.

 

I have found that putting a placemarker on a link makes it the most reliable. I wonder if David’s comment about dynamic content explains why. Regardless, like you, I place focus at the beginning of a line, then set the placemarker. Like Maria, I anchor it to text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:47 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: clarification on setting place markers on websites

 

Using JAWS 2019.  Like many of you, I jump between a couple different browsers depending on what I’m doing.  Here at work, I have a couple internal company sites that are cluttered, so I’m setting place markers to get to pertinent parts of the screen.   I’d like to clarify my understanding, since I’m still new to doing this with JAWS. 

 

For one page, I added a place marker at a line of text above a bunch of buttons I use.  I think I set this PlaceMarkers while using IE 11.  If I open the page in Chrome and hit K, it takes me to a different spot on the page.   In the second case, I set a place marker  at the top of the main section of a page where the company posts news stories.  The K key works as expected in IE 11, but JAWS says there are no place markers when I open the page in Chrome. 

 

Questions:

Are place markers specific to the browser or to the URL?  In other words, should I be able to set a place marker and have it work on any browser I open the page in?

Second, if the above is true, what could I do differently in my first example where the place marker takes me to the right spot in IE 11, but to a spot earlier on the page in Chrome.  For context, this page is set up with a top navigation bar, a left nav, then two columns of information in the middle.  My place marker is supposed to go to the top of the right column and, within Chrome, takes me to a point near the bottom of the left column, about 2 inches visually below and 1 inch visually left of where I intended the place marker.   There  are a number of settings in that place marker dialog, so I must have done it incorrectly.  I think in Window Eyes I would select the text on the screen, then set the place marker.  At least with one of these above, I think I put the cursor just before the line of text when I set the marker, but it labeled the place marker with the full line of text, so I figured I had done it right.

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 



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moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

David Griffith
 

 

Yes I think you need version 3, from memory to work on Windows 10.

It is extremely easy. Just hit the add button, then select the key you want to change from a drop down list and then tab to the next drop down list and nominate the key you want to replace it   with. In this case the application key

–  the list is alphabetical but this  key might be preceded with the word special in the list.

Then get Sharp Keys to write to registry and then restart windows.

For example On my keyboard I always change the right alt key  by the space bar into a right windows keys.  The reason I do this is that most of the useful windows key commands that I use are on the left hand side of the keyboard.  Off the top  of my head I can only think of window key M and Windows key command I use  which uses letters from the right hand side.  In contrast there are loads on the left hand side. I find it easier then to use commands like windows E, windows T,  Windows D, windows R,, windows S,    windows X, windows a and B, using my right hand to hold the new windows key and hit the letter keys with my left hand.

My fingers get mangled if I try to do all this from the left windows key.

I know I miss out on a few alt type commands but in my experience you can more often just press the left alt key and then just keep on pressing keys.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 22 November 2019 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

 

moderated Re: clarification on setting place markers on websites

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thanks all.  Glad to understand this better.  I need to get better about using place markers for some of my more challenging internal company websites.  Funny how we can just forget about features.

It has already been a big help in our timekeeping system and I’m going to see if it will help with a couple other places that aren’t very accessible.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clarification on setting place markers on websites

 

Robin,

 

David and Maria have already addressed your questions. I can confirm that placemarkers do not work across browsers. One more thought.

 

I have found that putting a placemarker on a link makes it the most reliable. I wonder if David’s comment about dynamic content explains why. Regardless, like you, I place focus at the beginning of a line, then set the placemarker. Like Maria, I anchor it to text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:47 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: clarification on setting place markers on websites

 

Using JAWS 2019.  Like many of you, I jump between a couple different browsers depending on what I’m doing.  Here at work, I have a couple internal company sites that are cluttered, so I’m setting place markers to get to pertinent parts of the screen.   I’d like to clarify my understanding, since I’m still new to doing this with JAWS. 

 

For one page, I added a place marker at a line of text above a bunch of buttons I use.  I think I set this PlaceMarkers while using IE 11.  If I open the page in Chrome and hit K, it takes me to a different spot on the page.   In the second case, I set a place marker  at the top of the main section of a page where the company posts news stories.  The K key works as expected in IE 11, but JAWS says there are no place markers when I open the page in Chrome. 

 

Questions:

Are place markers specific to the browser or to the URL?  In other words, should I be able to set a place marker and have it work on any browser I open the page in?

Second, if the above is true, what could I do differently in my first example where the place marker takes me to the right spot in IE 11, but to a spot earlier on the page in Chrome.  For context, this page is set up with a top navigation bar, a left nav, then two columns of information in the middle.  My place marker is supposed to go to the top of the right column and, within Chrome, takes me to a point near the bottom of the left column, about 2 inches visually below and 1 inch visually left of where I intended the place marker.   There  are a number of settings in that place marker dialog, so I must have done it incorrectly.  I think in Window Eyes I would select the text on the screen, then set the place marker.  At least with one of these above, I think I put the cursor just before the line of text when I set the marker, but it labeled the place marker with the full line of text, so I figured I had done it right.

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 



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moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

Glenn / Lenny
 

Jaws has a key map feature that would work, but I believe you will need to do something with the control key.
Perhaps you could change whatever control + enter does or what control + windows does to do the shift + F10 function.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:16 AM
Subject: Accessible app to map menu key

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha

 

moderated Re: Accessible app to map menu key

ARORA Meesha
 

Alright, thanks David. I will get back to you if I face any issues pertaining it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible app to map menu key

 

I always use sharp keys. You should be able to google for this. If not I will send you a link.


On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:16, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have menu or application key on my keyboard and have to use shift +F10 all the time so I am thinking to map the right CTRL key to use it as a menu key.

Please can you advise what is the best way to achieve it?

I understand that there are some keyboard mapping apps to do this but please can you suggest accessible apps with JAWS.

Thanks

Meesha