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moderated Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

ARORA Meesha
 

Hi,

I would like to share the steps to make JAWS announce time for two time zones from the system clock in the notification area if any one finds it useful. We don’t need to use any third party app for this purpose now.

1.            While on the Notification area/System Tray press Insert + 6 on the numbers row.

2.            Type  Verbosity.

3.            Arrow to Configure Verbosity levels.

4.            Press F6.

5.            Select the verbosity level you   you are currently using. In my case I am using beginner verbosity.

6.            Press Space.

7.            Type T for tool tip.

8.            Next Press Space to check this option.

9.            Tab to OK and Press Enter.

10.          Press Shift + F6.

11.          Now Press Windows B to go to the Notification area.

12.          Arrow to the clock JAWS should read the two clocks.

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Used computer

Dave Durber
 

Hello Marty:

Are you wanting to delete the partitions on the hard drive, so you can install a fresh version of Windows?

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
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moderated Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

Dave Durber
 


Marty:
 
I am pretty certain that is a Windows 10 command.
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

Can you tell me how to get this list in Windows 7?  I tried entering ‘'”shell:AppsFolder command” in the Windows Run Dialog box, but was given an error message saying that that file was not available or something.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:12 AM
Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
 

I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion.

As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws.

I can offer one tip  to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea.

If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue,

shell:AppsFolder command

and press enter

This will open a list view with  all the apps you have on your system.

You can simply arrow down to review then all.

Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut .

For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list  of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c.

Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file.

Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system.

As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution.

In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws.

Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system.

I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.

 

David Griffith

 

 

                               

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 13:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried.

As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group.

Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

Success! I was able to remove the password protected user accounts and about 5GB of files using Disc Cleanup. I did this with Narrator as neither JAWS or NVDA are installed.
Thank you all so much.


Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hi Marty,
The BIOS will stay, so yes, pull the thumb drive and reboot.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


That is it,
NTPWEdit
Now, do I shut down, pull the USB drive and start up again?
Does the BIOS boot order stay as I set it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hi Marty,
You will need to use one of the utilities found on the desktop.
One should have a name relating to passwords, I forget the utilities, I'll
look to see which one I think it is.
And it will ask you where to search, and you select your C: drive and it
will bring up all the passwords found, and you can change them.
Then once they are changed, you can log into them and or one of them that
has the administrator priveleges and remove the rest, since you will now
know all the passwords.
You can give them all the same password.
I think it's NTPWEdit
Here is a list of all the programs found on the desktop:
7-Zip
AOMEI Partition Assistant
Active@ Disk Image Lite
AnyBurn
Autoruns
BOOTICE
DevManView
Firefox
FreeCommander XE
Keyfinder
Macrium Reflect Restore
Microsoft.NET
Mythicsoft
NTPWEdit
NVDA
PartitionGuru
ProduKey
Recuva
RegShot2_Ru_Unicode
Runscanner
ServiWin
WhatInStartup
WipeDisk
WipeFile
assembly
winamp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------
























































moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Marty,
The BIOS will stay, so yes, pull the thumb drive and reboot.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


That is it,
NTPWEdit
Now, do I shut down, pull the USB drive and start up again?
Does the BIOS boot order stay as I set it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hi Marty,
You will need to use one of the utilities found on the desktop.
One should have a name relating to passwords, I forget the utilities, I'll
look to see which one I think it is.
And it will ask you where to search, and you select your C: drive and it
will bring up all the passwords found, and you can change them.
Then once they are changed, you can log into them and or one of them that
has the administrator priveleges and remove the rest, since you will now
know all the passwords.
You can give them all the same password.
I think it's NTPWEdit
Here is a list of all the programs found on the desktop:
7-Zip
AOMEI Partition Assistant
Active@ Disk Image Lite
AnyBurn
Autoruns
BOOTICE
DevManView
Firefox
FreeCommander XE
Keyfinder
Macrium Reflect Restore
Microsoft.NET
Mythicsoft
NTPWEdit
NVDA
PartitionGuru
ProduKey
Recuva
RegShot2_Ru_Unicode
Runscanner
ServiWin
WhatInStartup
WipeDisk
WipeFile
assembly
winamp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------























































moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

That is it,
NTPWEdit
Now, do I shut down, pull the USB drive and start up again?
Does the BIOS boot order stay as I set it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hi Marty,
You will need to use one of the utilities found on the desktop.
One should have a name relating to passwords, I forget the utilities, I'll
look to see which one I think it is.
And it will ask you where to search, and you select your C: drive and it
will bring up all the passwords found, and you can change them.
Then once they are changed, you can log into them and or one of them that
has the administrator priveleges and remove the rest, since you will now
know all the passwords.
You can give them all the same password.
I think it's NTPWEdit
Here is a list of all the programs found on the desktop:
7-Zip
AOMEI Partition Assistant
Active@ Disk Image Lite
AnyBurn
Autoruns
BOOTICE
DevManView
Firefox
FreeCommander XE
Keyfinder
Macrium Reflect Restore
Microsoft.NET
Mythicsoft
NTPWEdit
NVDA
PartitionGuru
ProduKey
Recuva
RegShot2_Ru_Unicode
Runscanner
ServiWin
WhatInStartup
WipeDisk
WipeFile
assembly
winamp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------



















































moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Marty,
You will need to use one of the utilities found on the desktop.
One should have a name relating to passwords, I forget the utilities, I'll look to see which one I think it is.
And it will ask you where to search, and you select your C: drive and it will bring up all the passwords found, and you can change them.
Then once they are changed, you can log into them and or one of them that has the administrator priveleges and remove the rest, since you will now know all the passwords.
You can give them all the same password.
I think it's NTPWEdit
Here is a list of all the programs found on the desktop:
7-Zip
AOMEI Partition Assistant
Active@ Disk Image Lite
AnyBurn
Autoruns
BOOTICE
DevManView
Firefox
FreeCommander XE
Keyfinder
Macrium Reflect Restore
Microsoft.NET
Mythicsoft
NTPWEdit
NVDA
PartitionGuru
ProduKey
Recuva
RegShot2_Ru_Unicode
Runscanner
ServiWin
WhatInStartup
WipeDisk
WipeFile
assembly
winamp

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


















































moderated Re: Best braille translation program

Glenn / Lenny
 

That program can likely convert it if it is a BRF file. NFBtrans can do
that.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program


Its a braille book, and I dont read braille. so I was wondering if it
could be converted to text.

On 11/21/2019 4:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

If it has been scanned, then it is already in a format like DOCX or Open
Book format or something similar.
For that, you should use that software to convert to plain text.
You can then likely use this software to convert it to BRF for use on a
notetaker or Braille display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program


Hi,

Can this software be used to convert a braille book that was scanned, to
text?


On 11/21/2019 4:01 PM, ratshtron wrote:
try this link:

https://www.brailleblaster.org/download.php



Legend has it that on Thursday 11/21/2019 02:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

Richard,
I went to APH to find that translation program, but which of the many
links do I use to find it?
I tried a couple links there and did not find any software available for
download.
Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:richardturner42@...>Richard Turner
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

If money is not an issue, the best is Duxbury, at somewhere around $500
or $600.
I use Braille Blaster, which is free from American Printing House for
the
blind.
<http://www.aph.org>www.aph.org





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane
Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Bill White
<billwhite92701@...>
wrote:



Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation
software.
I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is
the
best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

Thank you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...
----------------------------------------






moderated Re: clarification on setting place markers on websites

Adrian Spratt
 

Robin,

 

David and Maria have already addressed your questions. I can confirm that placemarkers do not work across browsers. One more thought.

 

I have found that putting a placemarker on a link makes it the most reliable. I wonder if David’s comment about dynamic content explains why. Regardless, like you, I place focus at the beginning of a line, then set the placemarker. Like Maria, I anchor it to text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:47 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: clarification on setting place markers on websites

 

Using JAWS 2019.  Like many of you, I jump between a couple different browsers depending on what I’m doing.  Here at work, I have a couple internal company sites that are cluttered, so I’m setting place markers to get to pertinent parts of the screen.   I’d like to clarify my understanding, since I’m still new to doing this with JAWS. 

 

For one page, I added a place marker at a line of text above a bunch of buttons I use.  I think I set this PlaceMarkers while using IE 11.  If I open the page in Chrome and hit K, it takes me to a different spot on the page.   In the second case, I set a place marker  at the top of the main section of a page where the company posts news stories.  The K key works as expected in IE 11, but JAWS says there are no place markers when I open the page in Chrome. 

 

Questions:

Are place markers specific to the browser or to the URL?  In other words, should I be able to set a place marker and have it work on any browser I open the page in?

Second, if the above is true, what could I do differently in my first example where the place marker takes me to the right spot in IE 11, but to a spot earlier on the page in Chrome.  For context, this page is set up with a top navigation bar, a left nav, then two columns of information in the middle.  My place marker is supposed to go to the top of the right column and, within Chrome, takes me to a point near the bottom of the left column, about 2 inches visually below and 1 inch visually left of where I intended the place marker.   There  are a number of settings in that place marker dialog, so I must have done it incorrectly.  I think in Window Eyes I would select the text on the screen, then set the place marker.  At least with one of these above, I think I put the cursor just before the line of text when I set the marker, but it labeled the place marker with the full line of text, so I figured I had done it right.

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 



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moderated Re: Best braille translation program

Robert Cole
 

Its a braille book, and I dont read braille. so I was wondering if it could be converted to text.

On 11/21/2019 4:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

If it has been scanned, then it is already in a format like DOCX or Open
Book format or something similar.
For that, you should use that software to convert to plain text.
You can then likely use this software to convert it to BRF for use on a
notetaker or Braille display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program


Hi,

Can this software be used to convert a braille book that was scanned, to
text?


On 11/21/2019 4:01 PM, ratshtron wrote:
try this link:

https://www.brailleblaster.org/download.php



Legend has it that on Thursday 11/21/2019 02:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

Richard,
I went to APH to find that translation program, but which of the many
links do I use to find it?
I tried a couple links there and did not find any software available for
download.
Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:richardturner42@...>Richard Turner
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

If money is not an issue, the best is Duxbury, at somewhere around $500
or $600.
I use Braille Blaster, which is free from American Printing House for the
blind.
<http://www.aph.org>www.aph.org





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
wrote:



Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software.
I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the
best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

Thank you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...
----------------------------------------





moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

Glenn, Remember me? The originator of this thread. I am in. I was able to change the boot order to load Win 7 PE from a USB drive. Now, how do I get rid of those user accounts?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I sure the original source was still up.
The only trouble with the originals were that they come as executables with
self-burning software.
I had to use 7Zip to open the EXE archives and extract the ISO images.
If I knew how to make a checksum, I could make one of my image and send that
to you to test for corruption.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Glen:

Up-to-now, I have used Iso To USB, and so far, it has worked every time. I will download the software you suggest and try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Dave,
Try using Universal USB Installer, it has never failed for me.
It will burn an ISO OS to a USB drive without damaging the files.
I have even done this on external hard drives.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hello Robert:

After connecting the USB memory stick and pressing the power button, I waited for about 5 minutes. I pressed the power button again, the laptop powered off within 3 seconds. So, it was obvious that the boot process did not work because, if it had, the laptop would have taken much longer to power off.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi,

Without sighted assistance, How can you be sure it did not boot?

Some computers need a USB sound card in order for you to hear NVDA

while running the Windows PE.

If this is the case, you can get one from WalMart for around $10.


On 11/20/2019 12:18 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Glen:

I do not know if anybody else will have the same problem as I did.

I Downloaded the 64 bit .iso file from the link you provided

Unfortunately, when I created a USB bootable media from the .iso file, and plugged it into my laptop and turned it on, nothing happened, it did not boot.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if your computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------














































moderated Re: Best braille translation program

Richard Turner
 

I forgot they have a separate page for Braille Blaster:
Use this:
https://brailleblaster.org/download.php




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 1:22 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:



I used to use DBT at my old workplace. It is indeed – well, the gold standard, I suppose. I looked into buying it for myself but, the programme is, like many “professional” products designed for such a niche market, hopelessly expensive, at least by my reckoning. If you have the budget or the means to get around that specific hurdle, though, by all means, go for that.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 21, 2019 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

 

Bill:

 

I have had great luck over the years both personally and professionally with the Duxbury Braille translation software.

 

I currently am using DBT version 12.3SR1.

 

There may be newer updates out there, but this does quite well for me at this time.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:13 PM
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Best braille translation program

 

Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software. I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

moderated Re: Best braille translation program

JM Casey
 

I used to use DBT at my old workplace. It is indeed – well, the gold standard, I suppose. I looked into buying it for myself but, the programme is, like many “professional” products designed for such a niche market, hopelessly expensive, at least by my reckoning. If you have the budget or the means to get around that specific hurdle, though, by all means, go for that.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 21, 2019 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

 

Bill:

 

I have had great luck over the years both personally and professionally with the Duxbury Braille translation software.

 

I currently am using DBT version 12.3SR1.

 

There may be newer updates out there, but this does quite well for me at this time.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:13 PM
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Best braille translation program

 

Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software. I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

moderated Re: Best braille translation program

Glenn / Lenny
 

If it has been scanned, then it is already in a format like DOCX or Open
Book format or something similar.
For that, you should use that software to convert to plain text.
You can then likely use this software to convert it to BRF for use on a
notetaker or Braille display.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cole via Groups.Io" <mr.robertcole=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program


Hi,

Can this software be used to convert a braille book that was scanned, to
text?


On 11/21/2019 4:01 PM, ratshtron wrote:
try this link:

https://www.brailleblaster.org/download.php



Legend has it that on Thursday 11/21/2019 02:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

Richard,
I went to APH to find that translation program, but which of the many
links do I use to find it?
I tried a couple links there and did not find any software available for
download.
Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:richardturner42@...>Richard Turner
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

If money is not an issue, the best is Duxbury, at somewhere around $500
or $600.
I use Braille Blaster, which is free from American Printing House for the
blind.
<http://www.aph.org>www.aph.org





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
wrote:



Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software.
I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the
best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

Thank you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...
----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Best braille translation program

ratshtron
 

not sure, but there's 32 and 64 bit versions for windows and looks like a lenux as well. you just have to enter your email address to download the software. you can give a whurl!


Legend has it that on Thursday 11/21/2019 03:07 PM, Robert Cole via Groups.Io said:
----------------------------------------
Hi,

Can this software be used to convert a braille book that was scanned, to text?


On 11/21/2019 4:01 PM, ratshtron wrote:
try this link:

https://www.brailleblaster.org/download.php



Legend has it that on Thursday 11/21/2019 02:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

Richard,
I went to APH to find that translation program, but which of the many links do I use to find it?
I tried a couple links there and did not find any software available for download.
Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:richardturner42@...>Richard Turner
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

If money is not an issue, the best is Duxbury, at somewhere around $500 or $600.
I use Braille Blaster, which is free from American Printing House for the blind.
<http://www.aph.org>www.aph.org





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software. I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

Thank you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...
----------------------------------------
----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Best braille translation program

Robert Cole
 

Hi,

Can this software be used to convert a braille book that was scanned, to text?

On 11/21/2019 4:01 PM, ratshtron wrote:
try this link:

https://www.brailleblaster.org/download.php



Legend has it that on Thursday 11/21/2019 02:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

Richard,
I went to APH to find that translation program, but which of the many links do I use to find it?
I tried a couple links there and did not find any software available for download.
Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:richardturner42@...>Richard Turner
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

If money is not an issue, the best is Duxbury, at somewhere around $500 or $600.
I use Braille Blaster, which is free from American Printing House for the blind.
<http://www.aph.org>www.aph.org





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software. I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

Thank you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...
----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Best braille translation program

ratshtron
 

try this link:

https://www.brailleblaster.org/download.php



Legend has it that on Thursday 11/21/2019 02:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

Richard,
I went to APH to find that translation program, but which of the many links do I use to find it?
I tried a couple links there and did not find any software available for download.
Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:richardturner42@...>Richard Turner
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

If money is not an issue, the best is Duxbury, at somewhere around $500 or $600.
I use Braille Blaster, which is free from American Printing House for the blind.
<http://www.aph.org>www.aph.org





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software. I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

Thank you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...
----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Best braille translation program

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

 

I have had great luck over the years both personally and professionally with the Duxbury Braille translation software.

 

I currently am using DBT version 12.3SR1.

 

There may be newer updates out there, but this does quite well for me at this time.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:13 PM
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Best braille translation program

 

Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software. I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

moderated Re: Best braille translation program

Glenn / Lenny
 


Richard,
I went to APH to find that translation program, but which of the many links do I use to find it?
I tried a couple links there and did not find any software available for download.
Thanks.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Best braille translation program

If money is not an issue, the best is Duxbury, at somewhere around $500 or $600.
I use Braille Blaster, which is free from American Printing House for the blind.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software. I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

Thank you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

moderated Re: Best braille translation program

Richard Turner
 

If money is not an issue, the best is Duxbury, at somewhere around $500 or $600.
I use Braille Blaster, which is free from American Printing House for the blind.
www.aph.org





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi. I am looking for advice as to the best Braille translation software. I want to create my own grade two brf files from text files. What is the best software I can use with Windows 10 and JAWS?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...