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moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

Any one of them that Carlos made that come up talking with NVDA, 10 included.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Majid Hussain" <mhussaincov93@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


would you be talking about the talking windows 10 pe?
??
Majid

On 17/11/2019, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:
If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be

discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people

shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct

to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has

to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id

won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if

they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen

and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it

if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist

in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------




















--
kind regards,
Majid Hussain

moderated Re: Used computer

Majid Hussain
 

would you be talking about the talking windows 10 pe?
??
Majid

On 17/11/2019, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:
If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be

discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people

shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct

to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has

to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id

won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if

they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen

and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it

if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist

in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------



















--
kind regards,
Majid Hussain

moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Used computer

 

Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------

moderated Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Adrian Spratt
 

That's Dectalk Access, the software version, right? Not the external Dectalk Express synthesizer. Dectalk USB, another synth but sadly not as good, may also be available, but not from Vispero.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Samuel Villa
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

JAWS does support the DecTalk
Synthesizer. However, you have to purchase it from FreedomScientific. Hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

i don't think jaws supports the dectalk synth anymore. and if it does, isn't the dectalk a sapi4 synth?
----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation


Hi Annabelle,
It's been a while, but it seems like you need to select SAPI 5 and then select Eloquence.
It's been a while, so perhaps I'm wrong, but give that a try.
I also tried the dectalk once and it didn't show up for me either.
If my Elloquence suggestion does not work, you might need to try a different Eloquence.
I could send you one.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:08 PM
Subject: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk" synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA says they're installed. What do I do next?
Have I forgotten something?

moderated Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Samuel Villa
 

JAWS does support the DecTalk
Synthesizer. However, you have to purchase it from FreedomScientific. Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

i don't think jaws supports the dectalk synth anymore. and if it does, isn't the dectalk a sapi4 synth?
----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation


Hi Annabelle,
It's been a while, but it seems like you need to select SAPI 5 and then select Eloquence.
It's been a while, so perhaps I'm wrong, but give that a try.
I also tried the dectalk once and it didn't show up for me either.
If my Elloquence suggestion does not work, you might need to try a different Eloquence.
I could send you one.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:08 PM
Subject: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk" synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA says they're installed. What do I do next?
Have I forgotten something?

moderated Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Richard Turner
 

May I respectfully suggest you subscribe to the NVDA list where you will get more help, especially on such an old version. The subscription address is:
nvda+subscribe@nvda.groups.io




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:54 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:

The one I'm using is NVDA 2015. I tried the latest version, but it caused my
machine to go bonkers with errors every time I started NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

I know that newer versions of NVDA have introduced changes which affect how
the screen reader interacts with addons. Therefore, if the synthesizer you're
using is from a third party addon it's possible that the new version of NVDA
that you installed isn't properly supporting that addon. I would advise
writing to the addon developer to see if he/she is planning to update their
addon to support NVDA 2019.3.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=WWW.DavidGoldfield.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C8197d67c27a44bd25d1308d76b65a08b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637095956533496224&amp;sdata=p6PyHObQE2FwvyIz%2FRexJPBBqXTuLhc32wSpdnelvQo%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 11/16/2019 11:32 PM, netbat66 wrote:
i don't think jaws supports the dectalk synth anymore. and if it does,
isn't the dectalk a sapi4 synth?
----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation


Hi Annabelle,
It's been a while, but it seems like you need to select SAPI 5 and
then select Eloquence.
It's been a while, so perhaps I'm wrong, but give that a try.
I also tried the dectalk once and it didn't show up for me either.
If my Elloquence suggestion does not work, you might need to try a
different Eloquence.
I could send you one.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: Annabelle Susan Morison
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:08 PM
Subject: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some
synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk"
synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA
says they're installed. What do I do next? Have I forgotten something?














moderated Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

The one I'm using is NVDA 2015. I tried the latest version, but it caused my
machine to go bonkers with errors every time I started NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

I know that newer versions of NVDA have introduced changes which affect how
the screen reader interacts with addons. Therefore, if the synthesizer you're
using is from a third party addon it's possible that the new version of NVDA
that you installed isn't properly supporting that addon. I would advise
writing to the addon developer to see if he/she is planning to update their
addon to support NVDA 2019.3.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/16/2019 11:32 PM, netbat66 wrote:
i don't think jaws supports the dectalk synth anymore. and if it does,
isn't the dectalk a sapi4 synth?
----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation


Hi Annabelle,
It's been a while, but it seems like you need to select SAPI 5 and
then select Eloquence.
It's been a while, so perhaps I'm wrong, but give that a try.
I also tried the dectalk once and it didn't show up for me either.
If my Elloquence suggestion does not work, you might need to try a
different Eloquence.
I could send you one.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: Annabelle Susan Morison
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:08 PM
Subject: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some
synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk"
synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA
says they're installed. What do I do next? Have I forgotten something?





moderated Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

David Goldfield
 

I know that newer versions of NVDA have introduced changes which affect
how the screen reader interacts with addons. Therefore, if the
synthesizer you're using is from a third party addon it's possible that
the new version of NVDA that you installed isn't properly supporting
that addon. I would advise writing to the addon developer to see if
he/she is planning to update their addon to support NVDA 2019.3.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/16/2019 11:32 PM, netbat66 wrote:
i don't think jaws supports the dectalk synth anymore. and if it does,
isn't the dectalk a sapi4 synth?
----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation


Hi Annabelle,
It's been a while, but it seems like you need to select SAPI 5 and
then select Eloquence.
It's been a while, so perhaps I'm wrong, but give that a try.
I also tried the dectalk once and it didn't show up for me either.
If my Elloquence suggestion does not work, you might need to try a
different Eloquence.
I could send you one.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: Annabelle Susan Morison
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:08 PM
Subject: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some
synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk"
synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA
says they're installed. What do I do next? Have I forgotten something?





moderated Re: Used computer

Dave Durber
 

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small piece!

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------

moderated Re: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Adrian Spratt
 

Dectalk Express, the external synthesizer, works with the current release of JAWS 2010 and is included with the synths list. I can’t speak for NVDA.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 11:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk" synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA says they're installed. What do I do next? Have I forgotten something?

moderated Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

netbat66
 

i don't think jaws supports the dectalk synth anymore. and if it does, isn't the dectalk a sapi4 synth?

----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation


Hi Annabelle,
It's been a while, but it seems like you need to select SAPI 5 and then select Eloquence.
It's been a while, so perhaps I'm wrong, but give that a try.
I also tried the dectalk once and it didn't show up for me either.
If my Elloquence suggestion does not work, you might need to try a different Eloquence.
I could send you one.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:08 PM
Subject: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk" synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA says they're installed. What do I do next? Have I forgotten something?

moderated Re: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Annabelle,
It's been a while, but it seems like you need to select SAPI 5 and then select Eloquence.
It's been a while, so perhaps I'm wrong, but give that a try.
I also tried the dectalk once and it didn't show up for me either.
If my Elloquence suggestion does not work, you might need to try a different Eloquence.
I could send you one.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:08 PM
Subject: NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk" synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA says they're installed. What do I do next? Have I forgotten something?

moderated NVDA: Synthesizers Missing after Installation

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I know this might be a bit off topic, but I've installed some synthesizers for NVDA, but it seems the "Eloquence" and "Dectalk" synthesizers don't show up in the list, despite the fact that NVDA says they're installed. What do I do next? Have I forgotten something?

moderated Re: Used computer

Loy
 

In case of the thief pointing the camera at the victim and opening the phone, this may be true, but if the phone is lost or the thief grabs and runs he can't get into the phone, or the phone goes to sleep then he can't get back into the phone unless he changes the print or face ID. So It is a pretty good security feature.


----- Original Messag
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back. They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------









moderated Re: windows 7 end of life.

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:17 AM, netbat66 wrote:
old news. microsoft announced this 2 years ago.
Even before that, but for those still on Windows 7 Microsoft is having the OS give messages about end of support in January.  I presume the e-mails come to those with Microsoft accounts that have Windows 7 machines associated with same.

Those who intend to remain in the Windows ecosystem must now upgrade to Windows 10 if they want a supported version that will remain supported beyond 2023, the drop dead date for Windows 8.1.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: Used computer

DJ
 

Apple states that the data as well as passwords, codes, etc., are encrypted in such a way that they even cannot access the data. They did not and could not Arrange for a computer tech to help the government. They also stated that if they attempted to do this, they would be violating the very promised they have made to us, they are customers. Apple has been working hard to protect our privacy and security.


On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:58 PM James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...> wrote:

The story that I got was that Apple arranged for a computer tech to privately assist Uncle Sam in getting in to the phone.  Maybe by now, there people who have access to this information.  Maybe by now, Apple has made changes. I still bet iPhones are more secure than Android phones.  I bet iPhones are even more secure than Windows PC’s.

 

James B

p.S.  I don’t remember which cable news channel I got this news report  from.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

 

No. They most certainly did not cave-in.

 

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

Yes, and I believe Apple caved in, if I remember right.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back.  They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones.  In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
>I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.
>It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
>2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any
>way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to
>factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
>
----------------------------------------













moderated Re: Used computer

James Bentley
 

The story that I got was that Apple arranged for a computer tech to privately assist Uncle Sam in getting in to the phone.  Maybe by now, there people who have access to this information.  Maybe by now, Apple has made changes. I still bet iPhones are more secure than Android phones.  I bet iPhones are even more secure than Windows PC’s.

 

James B

p.S.  I don’t remember which cable news channel I got this news report  from.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

 

No. They most certainly did not cave-in.

 

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

Yes, and I believe Apple caved in, if I remember right.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back.  They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones.  In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
>I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.
>It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
>2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any
>way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to
>factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
>
----------------------------------------













moderated Re: Used computer

DJ
 

No. They most certainly did not cave-in.


On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
Yes, and I believe Apple caved in, if I remember right.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back.  They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones.  In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
>I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.
>It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
>2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any
>way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to
>factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
>
----------------------------------------