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moderated Re: Used computer

Loy
 

In case of the thief pointing the camera at the victim and opening the phone, this may be true, but if the phone is lost or the thief grabs and runs he can't get into the phone, or the phone goes to sleep then he can't get back into the phone unless he changes the print or face ID. So It is a pretty good security feature.


----- Original Messag
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back. They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------










moderated Re: windows 7 end of life.

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:17 AM, netbat66 wrote:
old news. microsoft announced this 2 years ago.
Even before that, but for those still on Windows 7 Microsoft is having the OS give messages about end of support in January.  I presume the e-mails come to those with Microsoft accounts that have Windows 7 machines associated with same.

Those who intend to remain in the Windows ecosystem must now upgrade to Windows 10 if they want a supported version that will remain supported beyond 2023, the drop dead date for Windows 8.1.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Used computer

DJ
 

Apple states that the data as well as passwords, codes, etc., are encrypted in such a way that they even cannot access the data. They did not and could not Arrange for a computer tech to help the government. They also stated that if they attempted to do this, they would be violating the very promised they have made to us, they are customers. Apple has been working hard to protect our privacy and security.


On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:58 PM James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...> wrote:

The story that I got was that Apple arranged for a computer tech to privately assist Uncle Sam in getting in to the phone.  Maybe by now, there people who have access to this information.  Maybe by now, Apple has made changes. I still bet iPhones are more secure than Android phones.  I bet iPhones are even more secure than Windows PC’s.

 

James B

p.S.  I don’t remember which cable news channel I got this news report  from.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

 

No. They most certainly did not cave-in.

 

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

Yes, and I believe Apple caved in, if I remember right.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back.  They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones.  In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
>I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.
>It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
>2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any
>way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to
>factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
>
----------------------------------------














moderated Re: Used computer

James Bentley
 

The story that I got was that Apple arranged for a computer tech to privately assist Uncle Sam in getting in to the phone.  Maybe by now, there people who have access to this information.  Maybe by now, Apple has made changes. I still bet iPhones are more secure than Android phones.  I bet iPhones are even more secure than Windows PC’s.

 

James B

p.S.  I don’t remember which cable news channel I got this news report  from.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

 

No. They most certainly did not cave-in.

 

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

Yes, and I believe Apple caved in, if I remember right.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back.  They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones.  In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
>I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.
>It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
>2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any
>way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to
>factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
>
----------------------------------------














moderated Re: Used computer

DJ
 

No. They most certainly did not cave-in.


On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
Yes, and I believe Apple caved in, if I remember right.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back.  They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones.  In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
>I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.
>It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
>2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any
>way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to
>factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
>
----------------------------------------















moderated Re: Used computer

JM Casey
 

Yes, and I believe Apple caved in, if I remember right.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: November 16, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back. They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Used computer

James Bentley
 

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back. They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Used computer

David Diamond
 

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Used computer

Mario
 

I haven't used MJB either but produkey also works okay.

-------- Original Message --------
From: ratshtron [mailto:northstarr1950@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Saturday, November 16, 2019, 11:34 AM
Subject: Used computer
hmmm, I haven't been able to use jelly bean for a while now, lol!


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 11:40 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding
the passwords.
Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on
boot up to recover the computer.
And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to
either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mhutchings152730@...>Marty Hutchings
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM
Subject: Used computer

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of
the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way
that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


----------------------------------------



.


moderated Re: Used computer

ratshtron
 

hmmm, I haven't been able to use jelly bean for a while now, lol!


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 11:40 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding the passwords.
Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on boot up to recover the computer.
And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mhutchings152730@...>Marty Hutchings
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM
Subject: Used computer

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?

----------------------------------------


moderated Re: FScast?

Mario
 

there are many ways to listen when a new FSCast comes out, including
Amazon Echo and Alexa enabled devices. and for those interested,
Google's Home and Siri can also play the FSCasts. check out:

http://blog.freedomscientific.com/fscast/

Got an Amazon Echo or something that can talk to Alexa? There are
several ways you can listen.

We’re are available through Alexa’s podcast skill, AnyPod. Enable AnyPod
and ask it to play FSCast.

Finally, we’re listed in TuneIn, which Alexa supports without the need
to enable any skill. Tell Alexa to play FSCast on TuneIn.

On 11/16/2019 10:53 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi jaws users does the FS cast still come out regularly and is there any
way to listen on an echo?  Have tried asking different ways but coming
up with other things

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for
Windows 10


moderated Re: Used computer

ratshtron
 

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


moderated windows 7 end of life.

netbat66
 

old news. microsoft announced this 2 years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Diamond
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer



There was an email this afternoon that Microsoft will no longer be providing support for windows 7 as of 2020.


moderated Re: FScast?

Jacob
 

If you have software that supports XML feeds you can get it froem here:

http://fscast.libsyn.com/rss


OZ0TE Jacob


On 2019-11-16 at 16:53 ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi jaws users does the FS cast still come out regularly and is there any way to listen on an echo?  Have tried asking different ways but coming up with other things

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated FScast?

ken lawrence
 

Hi jaws users does the FS cast still come out regularly and is there any way to listen on an echo?  Have tried asking different ways but coming up with other things

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 


It's there, I've done it several times for folks.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

I don’t want to say for sure that this sounds somehow not correct, what good is a password if you can easily get utilities which can extract it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

 

You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding the passwords.

Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on boot up to recover the computer.

And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM

Subject: Used computer

 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: Used computer

 

I don’t want to say for sure that this sounds somehow not correct, what good is a password if you can easily get utilities which can extract it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

 

You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding the passwords.

Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on boot up to recover the computer.

And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM

Subject: Used computer

 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 


You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding the passwords.
Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on boot up to recover the computer.
And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM
Subject: Used computer

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: Used computer

David Diamond
 

There was an email this afternoon that  Microsoft will no longer be providing support for windows 7 as of 2020. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: November 15, 2019 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used computer

 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: Used computer

 

I don’t think you can get rid of these easily without the passwords.

Couldn’t you ask your neighbour what the passwords are or, if they are still being used, maybe he or she could stop by, log in and then delete the user accounts.

Alternatively, you could download Windows 7 from Microsoft and reinstall Windows that way, if you don’t have a product key you can buy one on eBay for probably $5 or less.

If somebody gave me a PC I’d certainly want to format the drive and put a fresh copy of Windows on it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used computer

 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?