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moderated Re: Used computer

James Bentley
 

I remember the United States threatening to take Apple to court a while
back. They needed to know how to by pass the security on an iPhone owned by
a terrorist.

I doubt if Apple's password protection is ludacris.

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Used computer

David Diamond
 

This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Used computer

Mario
 

I haven't used MJB either but produkey also works okay.

-------- Original Message --------
From: ratshtron [mailto:northstarr1950@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Saturday, November 16, 2019, 11:34 AM
Subject: Used computer
hmmm, I haven't been able to use jelly bean for a while now, lol!


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 11:40 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding
the passwords.
Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on
boot up to recover the computer.
And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to
either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mhutchings152730@gmail.com>Marty Hutchings
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM
Subject: Used computer

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of
the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way
that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


----------------------------------------



.


moderated Re: Used computer

ratshtron
 

hmmm, I haven't been able to use jelly bean for a while now, lol!


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 11:40 PM, Glenn / Lenny said:
----------------------------------------

You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding the passwords.
Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on boot up to recover the computer.
And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mhutchings152730@gmail.com>Marty Hutchings
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM
Subject: Used computer

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?

----------------------------------------


moderated Re: FScast?

Mario
 

there are many ways to listen when a new FSCast comes out, including
Amazon Echo and Alexa enabled devices. and for those interested,
Google's Home and Siri can also play the FSCasts. check out:

http://blog.freedomscientific.com/fscast/

Got an Amazon Echo or something that can talk to Alexa? There are
several ways you can listen.

We’re are available through Alexa’s podcast skill, AnyPod. Enable AnyPod
and ask it to play FSCast.

Finally, we’re listed in TuneIn, which Alexa supports without the need
to enable any skill. Tell Alexa to play FSCast on TuneIn.

On 11/16/2019 10:53 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi jaws users does the FS cast still come out regularly and is there any
way to listen on an echo?  Have tried asking different ways but coming
up with other things

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for
Windows 10


moderated Re: Used computer

ratshtron
 

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to those accounts with a password and remove them I think. otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------


moderated windows 7 end of life.

netbat66
 

old news. microsoft announced this 2 years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Diamond
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer



There was an email this afternoon that Microsoft will no longer be providing support for windows 7 as of 2020.


moderated Re: FScast?

Jacob
 

If you have software that supports XML feeds you can get it froem here:

http://fscast.libsyn.com/rss


OZ0TE Jacob


On 2019-11-16 at 16:53 ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi jaws users does the FS cast still come out regularly and is there any way to listen on an echo?  Have tried asking different ways but coming up with other things

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated FScast?

ken lawrence
 

Hi jaws users does the FS cast still come out regularly and is there any way to listen on an echo?  Have tried asking different ways but coming up with other things

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 


It's there, I've done it several times for folks.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer

I don’t want to say for sure that this sounds somehow not correct, what good is a password if you can easily get utilities which can extract it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

 

You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding the passwords.

Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on boot up to recover the computer.

And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM

Subject: Used computer

 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: Used computer

 

I don’t want to say for sure that this sounds somehow not correct, what good is a password if you can easily get utilities which can extract it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

 

You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding the passwords.

Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on boot up to recover the computer.

And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM

Subject: Used computer

 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 


You can boot to the Talking Win PE and it has a utility for finding the passwords.
Another option is to look on-line for the F-key you need to use on boot up to recover the computer.
And there is a utility called Magic Jelly bean that you can use to either remove or gather the passwords on the computer.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:23 PM
Subject: Used computer

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: Used computer

David Diamond
 

There was an email this afternoon that  Microsoft will no longer be providing support for windows 7 as of 2020. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: November 15, 2019 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used computer

 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: Used computer

 

I don’t think you can get rid of these easily without the passwords.

Couldn’t you ask your neighbour what the passwords are or, if they are still being used, maybe he or she could stop by, log in and then delete the user accounts.

Alternatively, you could download Windows 7 from Microsoft and reinstall Windows that way, if you don’t have a product key you can buy one on eBay for probably $5 or less.

If somebody gave me a PC I’d certainly want to format the drive and put a fresh copy of Windows on it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used computer

 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me.  It is a Windows7 OS.  It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space.  I don't know the passwords.  Is there any way that I can remove these accounts?  Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?


moderated Re: research it and weather?

JM Casey
 

Someone, possibly from Vispero, told someone else on a list recently that a total revamping of ResearchIt is in the works. Not sure it’s really a big priority though as all information is easily obtainable from the web and other apps.

 

The Windows 10 calculator comes with a currency converter, if you’d rather use that one.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: November 15, 2019 7:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: research it and weather?

 

Hi group ken here just using jaws for the first time in a while I noticed research it has many fewer options than before.  I’m aware the sport scores have been gone since the jaws 2018 version but I noticed also that weather is gone now too.  Jaws is only a backup and using in 40 minute mode but does anyone on group know if newer options will be added to research it soon?  I do see a convert money option I guess that means if I was going to another country I can look up how much of that country’s money equals a dollar.  I thought some of those other features scores read very well and they don’t when using cortana also if you use alexa you don’t really get complete scores and the tell me info line is gone.  Any ideas? 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated research it and weather?

ken lawrence
 

Hi group ken here just using jaws for the first time in a while I noticed research it has many fewer options than before.  I’m aware the sport scores have been gone since the jaws 2018 version but I noticed also that weather is gone now too.  Jaws is only a backup and using in 40 minute mode but does anyone on group know if newer options will be added to research it soon?  I do see a convert money option I guess that means if I was going to another country I can look up how much of that country’s money equals a dollar.  I thought some of those other features scores read very well and they don’t when using cortana also if you use alexa you don’t really get complete scores and the tell me info line is gone.  Any ideas? 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

David Griffith
 

When you use the Windows 10 command the inbuilt apps are listed as well.

I think it is important that people know that some aspects of Windows 10, for example Mail and People are accessible as well, as is apparently World Clock from the Store. I think the News app is accessible as well but I need to check it as it is some time since I used it.

David Griffith.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: 15 November 2019 23:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

I did create a list of installed programs using the JAWS history and the Control Panel/programs.  I noticed on your list that you included Narrator and other Windows features.  Any reason for that?  Those did not come up on my list from Control Panel.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 3:18 PM

Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

 

My apologies – I forgot that this was a Windows 10 tip , and also I believe Windows 8.

I don’t believe earlier versions of Windows have the same feature.

From memory in Windows 7  to get similar results you could go to control panel add remove programs and from there you could get a list of programs installed.

Using Jaws virtualise windows command jaws alt and W I think you can then you can copy to the clipboard.

However as I no longer have any Windows 7 machines I cannot test this out for you.

 

David Griffith.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Marty Hutchings
Sent: 15 November 2019 20:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

Can you tell me how to get this list in Windows 7?  I tried entering ‘'”shell:AppsFolder command” in the Windows Run Dialog box, but was given an error message saying that that file was not available or something.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:12 AM

Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion.

As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws.

I can offer one tip  to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea.

If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue,

shell:AppsFolder command

and press enter

This will open a list view with  all the apps you have on your system.

You can simply arrow down to review then all.

Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut .

For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list  of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c.

Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file.

Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system.

As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution.

In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws.

Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system.

I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.

 

David Griffith

 

 

                               

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 13:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried.

As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group.

Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

Marty Hutchings
 

I did create a list of installed programs using the JAWS history and the Control Panel/programs.  I noticed on your list that you included Narrator and other Windows features.  Any reason for that?  Those did not come up on my list from Control Panel.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
 

 

My apologies – I forgot that this was a Windows 10 tip , and also I believe Windows 8.

I don’t believe earlier versions of Windows have the same feature.

From memory in Windows 7  to get similar results you could go to control panel add remove programs and from there you could get a list of programs installed.

Using Jaws virtualise windows command jaws alt and W I think you can then you can copy to the clipboard.

However as I no longer have any Windows 7 machines I cannot test this out for you.

 

David Griffith.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Marty Hutchings
Sent: 15 November 2019 20:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

Can you tell me how to get this list in Windows 7?  I tried entering ‘'”shell:AppsFolder command” in the Windows Run Dialog box, but was given an error message saying that that file was not available or something.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:12 AM

Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion.

As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws.

I can offer one tip  to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea.

If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue,

shell:AppsFolder command

and press enter

This will open a list view with  all the apps you have on your system.

You can simply arrow down to review then all.

Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut .

For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list  of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c.

Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file.

Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system.

As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution.

In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws.

Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system.

I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.

 

David Griffith

 

 

                               

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 13:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried.

As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group.

Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

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From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

David Griffith
 

 

My apologies – I forgot that this was a Windows 10 tip , and also I believe Windows 8.

I don’t believe earlier versions of Windows have the same feature.

From memory in Windows 7  to get similar results you could go to control panel add remove programs and from there you could get a list of programs installed.

Using Jaws virtualise windows command jaws alt and W I think you can then you can copy to the clipboard.

However as I no longer have any Windows 7 machines I cannot test this out for you.

 

David Griffith.

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From: Marty Hutchings
Sent: 15 November 2019 20:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

Can you tell me how to get this list in Windows 7?  I tried entering ‘'”shell:AppsFolder command” in the Windows Run Dialog box, but was given an error message saying that that file was not available or something.

 

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Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:12 AM

Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion.

As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws.

I can offer one tip  to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea.

If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue,

shell:AppsFolder command

and press enter

This will open a list view with  all the apps you have on your system.

You can simply arrow down to review then all.

Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut .

For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list  of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c.

Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file.

Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system.

As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution.

In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws.

Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system.

I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.

 

David Griffith

 

 

                               

 

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From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 13:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried.

As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group.

Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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