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moderated Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

Michael Walker
 

This is OneNote 2016?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 6:16 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@...> wrote:
I went and looked at the app again following my comment. I have not yet done a lot of testing but it appears that they did fix the sluggish navigation issues. It was fairly usable for me this time around using JAWS 2020.
 
Hope this helps.
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 
From: Rod via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io ; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation
 
        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.
 
Rod,
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 
From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation
 
Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.


moderated Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

Michael Walker
 

What note taking alternatives would you use?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@...> wrote:
        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.
 
Rod,
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 
From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation
 
Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.


moderated Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

Rod
 

I went and looked at the app again following my comment. I have not yet done a lot of testing but it appears that they did fix the sluggish navigation issues. It was fairly usable for me this time around using JAWS 2020.
 
Hope this helps.
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 

From: Rod via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io ; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation
 
        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.
 
Rod,
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 
From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation
 
Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.


moderated Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

Rod
 

        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.
 
Rod,
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 

From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation
 
Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.


moderated Re: Message status in T bird

Norma A. Boge
 

Mario, thanks for the tip. I'll check it out and hopefully get this issue resolved. Best, Norma

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Message status in T bird

the only thing I can think of is to verify that the read and unread header is set to being displayed. for that, you'd need someone sighted to access that capability, and there now is a simpler way to check, but haven't had a need to check as I do not have that problem.

I don't think FS will help, but you never know if you get a tech that wants to help by Tandemming in to check it out for you.

On 11/12/2019 10:56 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
Hi Mario, the layout is set to classic. Anything else I should try?
Thanks, Norma


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Message status in T bird

is the layout set to classic? to check:

press the alt key and right arrow to the view menu, down arrow to and enter on the layout submenu.

the first choice should be classic view. if it is not checked, press enter to check it and close the submenu.

On 11/12/2019 9:39 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
Hi group, I’m using Jaws 2019 with thunderbird. What setting do I need
to enable so I can hear the status of messages, i.e. read, unread, etc.?
thanks, Norma









.


moderated Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

Michael Walker
 

Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.


moderated Qualified/certified Microsoft Windows/hardware person required

Dave Durber
 

Hello List members:

As the subject line says, I need someone with those qualifications to help me with a boot strapping/start up problem I am having with one of my computers.

If there is such a person with those qualifications on this list, will you please contact me off-list at:

d.durber@...

Your help will be very much appreciated.

Dave durber


moderated Re: are there any differences between jaws pro and jaws commercial?

Randy Barnett
 

I think you mean Home and Pro. No they are the exact same code. Pro is for use in a business where you are an employee. Home is just as it implies, for use at home.

So if you use it to earn money they want you to pay more for the exact same product... Other than that they are the same program.

On 11/12/2019 3:51 AM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi, list members, i'd like to know if there are any differences between jaws pro and jaws commercial version. I think this way you'll really see differences if there are any. I was told when I called to talk to someone in sales that the pro version in terms of the sma you'll have to pay $1200 if like in my case you haven't upgraded to the most recent version of jaws. I thaught to myself that's a lot of money but this would be as if I baught jaws for the first time while paying the upgrade price for 2 upgrades in terms of the sma . what do you think.


moderated Re: Message status in T bird

Mario
 

the only thing I can think of is to verify that the read and unread
header is set to being displayed. for that, you'd need someone sighted
to access that capability, and there now is a simpler way to check, but
haven't had a need to check as I do not have that problem.

I don't think FS will help, but you never know if you get a tech that
wants to help by Tandemming in to check it out for you.

On 11/12/2019 10:56 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
Hi Mario, the layout is set to classic. Anything else I should try?
Thanks, Norma


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Message status in T bird

is the layout set to classic? to check:

press the alt key and right arrow to the view menu, down arrow to and
enter on the layout submenu.

the first choice should be classic view. if it is not checked, press
enter to check it and close the submenu.

On 11/12/2019 9:39 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
Hi group, I’m using Jaws 2019 with thunderbird. What setting do I need
to enable so I can hear the status of messages, i.e. read, unread,
etc.?
thanks, Norma









.


moderated Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

Van Lant, Robin
 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Message status in T bird

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Mario, the layout is set to classic. Anything else I should try? Thanks, Norma

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Message status in T bird

is the layout set to classic? to check:

press the alt key and right arrow to the view menu, down arrow to and enter on the layout submenu.

the first choice should be classic view. if it is not checked, press enter to check it and close the submenu.

On 11/12/2019 9:39 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
Hi group, I’m using Jaws 2019 with thunderbird. What setting do I need
to enable so I can hear the status of messages, i.e. read, unread, etc.?
thanks, Norma


moderated Re: Message status in T bird

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Dennis, thanks for the info. Jaws is not consistent in indicating an unread message so guess I’ll have to see if I can get more help here or contact tech support for Jaws. Best, Norma

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Message status in T bird

 

it says unread after the subject. if it's read it won't say that. only if it's unread.

On 11/12/2019 8:39 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:

Hi group, I’m using Jaws 2019 with thunderbird. What setting do I need to enable so I can hear the status of messages, i.e. read, unread, etc.? thanks, Norma

 

--
Dennis Cornelison


moderated reply/forward headers in Thunderbird

Mario
 

since TB updated to 68, the Reply With Headers extension stopped
working. now when I reply or forward, the headers are formatted as the
default header. is there a way to modify the default header or leave the
default and add a custom one, and if so, what are the steps to do so?

instead of using an extension, I prefer to create a custom header
leaving the default untouched, thus merely switching to which I want to use.


moderated Re: Message status in T bird

Mario
 

is the layout set to classic? to check:

press the alt key and right arrow to the view menu,
down arrow to and enter on the layout submenu.

the first choice should be classic view. if it is not checked, press
enter to check it and close the submenu.

On 11/12/2019 9:39 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
Hi group, I’m using Jaws 2019 with thunderbird. What setting do I need
to enable so I can hear the status of messages, i.e. read, unread, etc.?
thanks, Norma


moderated Re: Message status in T bird

dennis
 

it says unread after the subject. if it's read it won't say that. only if it's unread.

On 11/12/2019 8:39 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:

Hi group, I’m using Jaws 2019 with thunderbird. What setting do I need to enable so I can hear the status of messages, i.e. read, unread, etc.? thanks, Norma

 

--
Dennis Cornelison


moderated Message status in T bird

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group, I’m using Jaws 2019 with thunderbird. What setting do I need to enable so I can hear the status of messages, i.e. read, unread, etc.? thanks, Norma

 


moderated How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

ARORA Meesha
 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha


moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

ARORA Meesha
 

Yes, I understand. Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Hello Arora:

Remember, you can use JAWS with any version of Windows using the JAWS Home License.

HTH

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "ARORA Meesha" <meesha.arora@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Thank you for explaining it so well. And yes, the dealer in India is
giving discount on purchasing JAWS along with SMA for next two years. SO I
will be covered for three years.
Thank you. It's nice to have your opinion:)
Have a nice weekend!
Meesha


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

If you buy Jaws you should absolutely and positively buy the SMA with it
and, unless you for some reason absolutely can't afford it you should
maintain that SMA. Given the relatively rapid development of Windows 10,
you will find that in 2 or 3 or 4 years you may not be able to get the
best experience from Windows 10 unless you also have the latest release of
Jaws, furthermore new features are added which often can be very useful
such as Picture Smart in Jaws 2019 or the new Jaws Scan cursor in Jaws
2020 which kicks in whenever you open a Windows 10 app such as the
Calculator etc. If you don't get an SMA which entitles you to two full
upgrades and you want to upgrade, say in 3 years, you then basically have
to buy two sMA'S, the first to cover you for the two versions you missed
and another to get you up to date. For example:

Say you now buy Jaws 2020 along with an SMA. This will get you full access
to Jaws 2020 and it will also entitle you to get Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022.
Lets assume you buy Jaws 2020 without SMA, but in the fall of 2022 you
want to get Jaws 2023.
You would then have to buy two SMA's, one to cover Jaws 2021 and Jaws
2022, then a second SMA which would then get you Jaws 2023 and entitle you
to Jaws 2024.
In the end you pay the same except you have to pay for two SMA's all at
once and you may actually pay more because often if you buy an SMA right
away you get it for a slightly lesser price. I believe you are in India
and I don't know how it is handled there, but I believe in the US and
Canada you get a bit of a discount if you buy a new SMA within a couple of
months after the old one runs out.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Thanks all and yes, the home version also can be installed on 3 computers.
Is it a good idea to go for sma as well?
I am trying to decide if I should go for sma as well along with purchase
of JAWS?
Thanks
Meesha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro
version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to
another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional
edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and
the difference in the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I am
interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various
applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha

















moderated are there any differences between jaws pro and jaws commercial?

David Ingram
 

Hi, list members, i'd like to know if there are any differences between jaws pro and jaws commercial version. I think this way you'll really see differences if there are any. I was told when I called to talk to someone in sales that the pro version in terms of the sma you'll have to pay $1200 if like in my case you haven't upgraded to the most recent version of jaws. I thaught to myself that's a lot of money but this would be as if I baught jaws for the first time while paying the upgrade price for 2 upgrades in terms of the sma . what do you think.


moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Dave Durber
 

Hello Arora:

Remember, you can use JAWS with any version of Windows using the JAWS Home License.

HTH

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "ARORA Meesha" <meesha.arora@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Thank you for explaining it so well. And yes, the dealer in India is giving discount on purchasing JAWS along with SMA for next two years. SO I will be covered for three years.
Thank you. It's nice to have your opinion:)
Have a nice weekend!
Meesha


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

If you buy Jaws you should absolutely and positively buy the SMA with it and, unless you for some reason absolutely can't afford it you should maintain that SMA. Given the relatively rapid development of Windows 10, you will find that in 2 or 3 or 4 years you may not be able to get the best experience from Windows 10 unless you also have the latest release of Jaws, furthermore new features are added which often can be very useful such as Picture Smart in Jaws 2019 or the new Jaws Scan cursor in Jaws 2020 which kicks in whenever you open a Windows 10 app such as the Calculator etc. If you don't get an SMA which entitles you to two full upgrades and you want to upgrade, say in 3 years, you then basically have to buy two sMA'S, the first to cover you for the two versions you missed and another to get you up to date. For example:

Say you now buy Jaws 2020 along with an SMA. This will get you full access to Jaws 2020 and it will also entitle you to get Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022.
Lets assume you buy Jaws 2020 without SMA, but in the fall of 2022 you want to get Jaws 2023.
You would then have to buy two SMA's, one to cover Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022, then a second SMA which would then get you Jaws 2023 and entitle you to Jaws 2024.
In the end you pay the same except you have to pay for two SMA's all at once and you may actually pay more because often if you buy an SMA right away you get it for a slightly lesser price. I believe you are in India and I don't know how it is handled there, but I believe in the US and Canada you get a bit of a discount if you buy a new SMA within a couple of months after the old one runs out.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Thanks all and yes, the home version also can be installed on 3 computers.
Is it a good idea to go for sma as well?
I am trying to decide if I should go for sma as well along with purchase of JAWS?
Thanks
Meesha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and the difference in the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I am interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha