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moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Dave Durber
 

Hello Ceigard:

Following your example, If you bought 2020 without an SMA, but you then wanted to buy an SMA for version 2023, You would pay an upgrade fee from 2020 to 2023 (not an SMA), then you would pay the additional fee for the SMA, for versions 2024, 2025. This is supposing Vispero are still using that scheme in 4 years time.

That is what I had to do, when upgrading from 2014 to 2018.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


If you buy Jaws you should absolutely and positively buy the SMA with it and, unless you for some reason absolutely can't afford it you should maintain that SMA. Given the relatively rapid development of Windows 10, you will find that in 2 or 3 or 4 years you may not be able to get the best experience from Windows 10 unless you also have the latest release of Jaws, furthermore new features are added which often can be very useful such as Picture Smart in Jaws 2019 or the new Jaws Scan cursor in Jaws 2020 which kicks in whenever you open a Windows 10 app such as the Calculator etc. If you don't get an SMA which entitles you to two full upgrades and you want to upgrade, say in 3 years, you then basically have to buy two sMA'S, the first to cover you for the two versions you missed and another to get you up to date. For example:

Say you now buy Jaws 2020 along with an SMA. This will get you full access to Jaws 2020 and it will also entitle you to get Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022.
Lets assume you buy Jaws 2020 without SMA, but in the fall of 2022 you want to get Jaws 2023.
You would then have to buy two SMA's, one to cover Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022, then a second SMA which would then get you Jaws 2023 and entitle you to Jaws 2024.
In the end you pay the same except you have to pay for two SMA's all at once and you may actually pay more because often if you buy an SMA right away you get it for a slightly lesser price. I believe you are in India and I don't know how it is handled there, but I believe in the US and Canada you get a bit of a discount if you buy a new SMA within a couple of months after the old one runs out.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Thanks all and yes, the home version also can be installed on 3 computers.
Is it a good idea to go for sma as well?
I am trying to decide if I should go for sma as well along with purchase of JAWS?
Thanks
Meesha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and the difference in the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I am interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha












moderated Re: advice for a recording software

David Griffith
 

Yes but they do not respond so in reality no support exists in practice. At least that was the situation 9-12 months ago.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian K. Lingard
Sent: 12 November 2019 08:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: advice for a recording software

 

Dear David, John, & List:

As I recall, all Totalrecorder Technical Support is provided by e-mail.

Brian K. Lingard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of John Covici

Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 3:07 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: advice for a recording software

 

Total recorder website seems to be up and running, how do you know there is

no longer technical support?

 

On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:22:17 -0500,

David Griffith wrote:

>

> If you simply want to replace Total Recorder then use the excellent free

Virtual Recorder.

>

> I have it on DropBox on

>

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/21yg909ea4szdn2/Virtual%20Recorder.zip?dl=1

>

> It works fine in Windows 10 and is in my experience superior to Total

Recorder and more reliable anyway.

>

> It can record in a variety of formats.

>

> If you want to edit mp3 files then GoldWave is an option but I normally

find the free Mp3DirectCut quicker and easier to use.

>

> B set beginning of selection and n marks the end of a selection. Del

deletes , control c copies etc.

>

> If you want to split a file press b, then n, and finally del key to set a

cue point.  Control T will then split your file at one or more cue point.

There are loads of other features.

>

> David Griffith

>

Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:

How do

you spend it?

 

         John Covici WB2UNA

         covici@...

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: advice for a recording software

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear David, John, & List:
As I recall, all Totalrecorder Technical Support is provided by e-mail.
Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of John Covici
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: advice for a recording software

Total recorder website seems to be up and running, how do you know there is
no longer technical support?

On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:22:17 -0500,
David Griffith wrote:

If you simply want to replace Total Recorder then use the excellent free
Virtual Recorder.

I have it on DropBox on

https://www.dropbox.com/s/21yg909ea4szdn2/Virtual%20Recorder.zip?dl=1

It works fine in Windows 10 and is in my experience superior to Total
Recorder and more reliable anyway.

It can record in a variety of formats.

If you want to edit mp3 files then GoldWave is an option but I normally
find the free Mp3DirectCut quicker and easier to use.

B set beginning of selection and n marks the end of a selection. Del
deletes , control c copies etc.

If you want to split a file press b, then n, and finally del key to set a
cue point. Control T will then split your file at one or more cue point.
There are loads of other features.

David Griffith
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici WB2UNA
covici@...

moderated Anyone using microsoft's WiFi Analyzer?

Don & Cher
 

Wondering about its accessibility; also if it can check the entire house or only the PC’s location. I seriously hope this question is not too, too dumb! New to all of this WIFI stuff

 

Cher

 

moderated Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if Iusing JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

JM Casey
 

I haven’t used this, but I’m picturing an interface that’s kind of like youtube’s player. In that case, yes, your method works great, but if you want quick keyboard commands to do these things rather than hunting around for the buttons … that’s why turning the virtual cursor off is best. Speaking for myself, there’s nothing more hateful than a media player (or whatever) that doesn’t have hotkeys. *grins*

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if Iusing JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

I think turning virtual cursor off is a good tip but I must admit I never bother using it. If I want to jump to the buttons to control  playback in Spotify I simply  from anywhere on the spotify screen use control end to jump to the end of the playback  buttons. I always land on the mute  buttons and cursoring up a few times will land me on next play pause previous shuffle etc.

I have never found a way of performing fast forward or rewing on Spotify, only next and previous tracks.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 23:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if Iusing JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

Yeah, not sure about this programme specifically, but it sounds like the virtual cursor is on – any programme’s normal hotkeys will probably not work properly then. As was already said, you can turn this cursor on and off with insert-z. Very useful keystroke in web browsers, too.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: November 10, 2019 2:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

Hi everyone

 

Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the screen reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?

 

At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

Regards,

Anders

 

moderated Re: advice for a recording software

David Griffith
 

Well it was not me that raised this but I sent multiple emails to their support email about a year ago complaining of problems and none of them were responded to. So I am not surprised others have concluded that it is not in reality being supported any more.
I personally stopped bothering when I found virtual Recorder.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: 11 November 2019 20:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: advice for a recording software

Total recorder website seems to be up and running, how do you know there is no longer technical support?

On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:22:17 -0500,
David Griffith wrote:

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If you simply want to replace Total Recorder then use the excellent free Virtual Recorder.

I have it on DropBox on

https://www.dropbox.com/s/21yg909ea4szdn2/Virtual%20Recorder.zip?dl=1

It works fine in Windows 10 and is in my experience superior to Total Recorder and more reliable anyway.

It can record in a variety of formats.

If you want to edit mp3 files then GoldWave is an option but I normally find the free Mp3DirectCut quicker and easier to use.

B set beginning of selection and n marks the end of a selection. Del deletes , control c copies etc.

If you want to split a file press b, then n, and finally del key to set a cue point. Control T will then split your file at one or more cue point. There are loads of other features.

David Griffith

i









http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...

moderated Re: advice for a recording software

John Covici
 

Total recorder website seems to be up and running, how do you know
there is no longer technical support?

On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:22:17 -0500,
David Griffith wrote:

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If you simply want to replace Total Recorder then use the excellent free Virtual Recorder.

I have it on DropBox on

https://www.dropbox.com/s/21yg909ea4szdn2/Virtual%20Recorder.zip?dl=1

It works fine in Windows 10 and is in my experience superior to Total Recorder and more reliable anyway.

It can record in a variety of formats.

If you want to edit mp3 files then GoldWave is an option but I normally find the free Mp3DirectCut quicker and easier to use.

B set beginning of selection and n marks the end of a selection. Del deletes , control c copies etc.

If you want to split a file press b, then n, and finally del key to set a cue point. Control T will then split your file at one or more cue point. There are loads of other features.

David Griffith

i









http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...

moderated Re: advice for a recording software

David Griffith
 

 

If you simply want to replace Total Recorder then use the excellent free Virtual Recorder.

I have it on DropBox on

https://www.dropbox.com/s/21yg909ea4szdn2/Virtual%20Recorder.zip?dl=1

It works fine in Windows 10 and is in my experience superior to Total Recorder and more reliable anyway.

It can record in a variety of formats.

If you want to edit mp3 files then GoldWave is an option but I normally find the free Mp3DirectCut quicker and easier to use.

B set beginning of selection and n marks the end of a selection. Del deletes , control c copies etc.

If you want to split  a file press b, then n, and finally del key to set a cue point.  Control T will then split your file at one or more cue point. There are loads of other features.

David Griffith

i

 

 

 

 

http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/

moderated Re: advice for a recording software

Richard Turner
 

My personal favorite has always been Goldwave.

To purchase it is $50.

You can use a fully functional copy to see how you like it.

It can use a Microphone, but I do not think it could record both a person talking and the speech synthesizer unless you have a mixer to go through or are just using the speaker sound for the synth.

 

It has lots of features too, but everything can be done form the keyboard.

Any good software is going to have a learning curve, but to get you started:

Dropping a queue point for the start of a clip is the left bracket.  The end tag is the right bracket.

Standard editing commands work to cut, or copy.

There are specific keystrokes for pasting say at the end of a track, which I think is control-e.

To paste into a new file is control-p.

 

There are settings to use different playback functions like play from the beginning, play only the selected material, etc.

It is worth spending time in the manual, but only read the sections that cover what you want to do.

You can download it from www.goldwave.com

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 9:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: advice for a recording software

 

Hi

i'm recording trainings for blind and low vision people. For this, i used to use a software called Total Recorder for which there's no longer technical support.

I like it because it is really simple to cut, paste and insert chuncks of sounds within a file just like you would with text from a word processor. The point is that each time Windows updates it breaks my Total Recoder settins down along with the speed it records. I then spend lot of times to rescue and don't even really know how i eventually come up with my settings by chance.

That is why i'm looking for another recording software from which i could record my voice and caputre screen reader speaking out. I had a look at Audacity, but that something too complicated for what i'm doing (lot of  functionalities i don't need) and huge learning curve.

My other constraint is to be able to deal with uncompressed format like wav.

Could anyone advice either open source or payable sofwre, please?

 

Cheers

Tanguy

--

Didactiweb - les formations adaptées aux déficients visuels

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Cofondateur et Responsable technique
06 20 23 77 26
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moderated Re: advice for a recording software

Glenn / Lenny
 


I like GoldWave.
The only difference between the paid and unpaid version is that the unpaid version will bring up the manual in your browser on startup, but you can alt + tab to the program window and do your thing.
There are keyboard commands for everything.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 11:54 AM
Subject: advice for a recording software

Hi

i'm recording trainings for blind and low vision people. For this, i used to use a software called Total Recorder for which there's no longer technical support.

I like it because it is really simple to cut, paste and insert chuncks of sounds within a file just like you would with text from a word processor. The point is that each time Windows updates it breaks my Total Recoder settins down along with the speed it records. I then spend lot of times to rescue and don't even really know how i eventually come up with my settings by chance.

That is why i'm looking for another recording software from which i could record my voice and caputre screen reader speaking out. I had a look at Audacity, but that something too complicated for what i'm doing (lot of  functionalities i don't need) and huge learning curve.

My other constraint is to be able to deal with uncompressed format like wav.

Could anyone advice either open source or payable sofwre, please?


Cheers

Tanguy

--
Didactiweb - les formations adaptées aux déficients visuels
Tanguy Lohéac
Cofondateur et Responsable technique
06 20 23 77 26
tanguy.loheac@...

moderated advice for a recording software

Tanguy LOHEAC
 

Hi

i'm recording trainings for blind and low vision people. For this, i used to use a software called Total Recorder for which there's no longer technical support.

I like it because it is really simple to cut, paste and insert chuncks of sounds within a file just like you would with text from a word processor. The point is that each time Windows updates it breaks my Total Recoder settins down along with the speed it records. I then spend lot of times to rescue and don't even really know how i eventually come up with my settings by chance.

That is why i'm looking for another recording software from which i could record my voice and caputre screen reader speaking out. I had a look at Audacity, but that something too complicated for what i'm doing (lot of  functionalities i don't need) and huge learning curve.

My other constraint is to be able to deal with uncompressed format like wav.

Could anyone advice either open source or payable sofwre, please?


Cheers

Tanguy

--
Didactiweb - les formations adaptées aux déficients visuels
Tanguy Lohéac
Cofondateur et Responsable technique
06 20 23 77 26
tanguy.loheac@...

moderated Re: JAWS and Plex Media Server

Blackwell, Clifford
 

Thanks for this information.  I’m contemplating using Plex to access music from my computer with an Echo 3rd gen.  I was needing to know how accessible with JAWS Plex was for setting things up and configuring it so that I can access my music elsewhere in the house.

 

This sets my mind at ease.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 5:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Plex Media Server

 

Hi,

I’d just like to throw a few things out there to clear the waters. Note that I literally got into Plex a few days ago.

You do not need a plex pass to listen to media on a mobile device. A one time fee of $4.99 will unlock it for that and future devices – this goes for the app store and google play store.

I’m not sure what said friend was doing, but it all depends on your upload speed. Obviously if you’re trying to sync a huge movie using your own internet connection it might not be as fast as copying it to one drive.

How are folks using plex on Windows with jaws? How do you find the experience? I should add here that I know you don’t need to pay anything if you’re going from computer to computer – and plex pass is far more than just letting you listen to your own content. It includes a streaming service similar to Netflix, hence the monthly $4.99. This is also clearly spelled out in the support articles.

I’m currently using it with Sonos (the music part) and for my needs it is working quite well. Your mileage may vary, of course, and it all depends on your needs, but I struggle to find something that is as open as this as far as streaming your own media from your home computer to just about any device on the planet that doesn’t involve some ridiculously complex setup. This seems to be a lot of set it and forget it, and the plex server software is web based and very useable with Jaws.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Plex Media Server

 

This is clearly off-topic, so if you'd care to take it private to number6@..., I understand.

 

So, I didn't uninstall, I have a smart television, what do I need to do in order to play media--MP4 and AVI--from my home network to the television using Plex?

 

On 11/8/2019 5:17 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

I use plex on a freenas server at my home and you dont need to buy a plex pass to watch movies. the pass gets you music streaming and tv shows. We also have it set up at our Air B and B for the 2 guest units and have no issues with them watching movies off the house server.

 

On 11/6/2019 8:37 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

Yes, I think you're right on that decision. I have it installed, think I'll uninstall it right now.

 

On 11/6/2019 9:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Reading about it on their web site and also about the iOS version in the app store, there are many features (not clearly specified) that are only available in the premium subscription.  The rates shown on the iOS app are $4.99 per month, or $39.99 per year or $149.99 for a lifetime Plex Pass.

One person said it takes forever to transfer files since it converts the format instead of using multiple formats.

They tried transferring a movie and many, many hours later it wasn’t finished.  He canceled that and manually copied it to OneDrive in 27 seconds.

Of course, that is copying to another place on the hard drive, but I know the sync time for OneDrive is very fast.

 

So, after reading about this with all of its promises, I think I will pass on this one.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Plex Media Server

 

It can be installed and used, I just don't know how to use it. I have it installed here, but don't have the first idea of what to do with it.

 

On 11/5/2019 2:33 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:

I’m about to try to install Plex on a Wondows 7 desktop running j2019 or possibly j2020.  Does anyone have any experience installing and running a Plex Media Server with JAWS?

 

 

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

James Bentley
 

I hope that a lot of polite inteligent conversation with FS might have a decent chance.  If enough of us could just convince them of the need.

 

I realize that Outlook and HJPad may not be important to everyone but how difficult would it be to just make a few minor upgrades.

 

James B

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

 

Sadly I think the answer to all of your questions is no.

This is why I think FS, given that they appear not to have touch HJPad for over a decade at least should consider releasing its code into public domain where VI community programmers  could possibly transform its usefulness.

Alternatively someone in-house could probably tweak it very quickly so that at least it would be possible to repair the user dictionaries function which over time would greatly assist a more helpful spell checking experience.

Getting Jaws to announce  formatting change when hotkeys are used to apply bold and so on would also make it seem more modern.

I have not contacted FS about this but if there is sufficient support here I may do so.

David Griffith

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

moderated Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if Iusing JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

David Griffith
 

I think turning virtual cursor off is a good tip but I must admit I never bother using it. If I want to jump to the buttons to control  playback in Spotify I simply  from anywhere on the spotify screen use control end to jump to the end of the playback  buttons. I always land on the mute  buttons and cursoring up a few times will land me on next play pause previous shuffle etc.

I have never found a way of performing fast forward or rewing on Spotify, only next and previous tracks.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 23:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if Iusing JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

Yeah, not sure about this programme specifically, but it sounds like the virtual cursor is on – any programme’s normal hotkeys will probably not work properly then. As was already said, you can turn this cursor on and off with insert-z. Very useful keystroke in web browsers, too.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: November 10, 2019 2:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

Hi everyone

 

Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the screen reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?

 

At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

Regards,

Anders

 

moderated Re: installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner

David Griffith
 

 

I can only speak generally about this as I have no direct experience of your printer and others may have better ideas.

 

Generally WiFi printers have to be setup to connect onto your local Wifi network, after which it should be pretty easy to find as an available printer on your PC.  This of course assumes you are also on the same WiFi network.

 

Because printers typically set up using a screens display, identifying and connecting to your WiFi is normally pretty inaccessible  in my experience.

For this reason  I have always used a sighted person to perform this initial task.  For my current WiFi printer I got a computer engineer to do it for me for £20 here in the UK.

 

There is one possibly accessible way of doing this for a blind person I am aware of and that is to use a pairing button if your router and printer have these.

 

It still however depends on this pairing option being available by default as soon as the printer is first turned on.

Also of course you will need to know which are the pairing buttons on both your printer and router.

 

I copy below some instructions from the Which Magazine in the UK.

 

If your printer and router are both compatible with Wireless Protected Setup (WPS) this should be an option in the printer’s network menu.

 

If so, when prompted, all you need to do is press the WPS pairing button on your router and the corresponding button on the printer to wirelessly connect

 

David Griffith

 

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From: Ann Byrne
Sent: 10 November 2019 22:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner

 

this animal connects I believe via wi-fi.  My student says her phone

found it without her doing anything.  Will the computer find it?  How

do I make it happen?  I have googled and can't find what I think I need.

 

thanks for any help.

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner

Glenn / Lenny
 

There are typically two ways to connect to a printer, one is via WIFI only, and the other is through the network.
You may connect to the network via WIFI, but for this, that is meaningless.
So if you installed the software for it on the computer, if you want to connect through the network, tell the install program that it is a network printer.
If the printer is not wired into your modem/router, you can only connect via WIFI, like you are connecting to a hotspot.
You will have more control over the printer if it's plugged into your network, and you install it as such.
Glenn

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From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:55 PM
Subject: installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner


this animal connects I believe via wi-fi. My student says her phone found it without her doing anything. Will the computer find it? How do I make it happen? I have googled and can't find what I think I need.

thanks for any help.


moderated Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

JM Casey
 

Yeah, not sure about this programme specifically, but it sounds like the virtual cursor is on – any programme’s normal hotkeys will probably not work properly then. As was already said, you can turn this cursor on and off with insert-z. Very useful keystroke in web browsers, too.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: November 10, 2019 2:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

Hi everyone

 

Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the screen reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?

 

At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

Regards,

Anders

moderated installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner

Ann Byrne
 

this animal connects I believe via wi-fi. My student says her phone found it without her doing anything. Will the computer find it? How do I make it happen? I have googled and can't find what I think I need.

thanks for any help.

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

JM Casey
 

Yeah, Windows 10 is a little quick to panic about programmes not “answering”. It’s cute. I have winamp set to run in compatibility mode but I still get th is message sometimes. Goes away fairly quickly but, still – seems to be my first experience with a Windows oS being quite so demanding.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

As an addendum, I found out tonight that if you run the troubleshoot compatibility settings on the HJ Pad program shortcut, just use the application key  to bring up the troubleshoot compatibility  option and hit enter on use recommended settings this resolves the delay in HJ Pad loading with messages about the program not responding.

Now it is loading like lightning, as fast as Notepad.

David Griffith

 

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From: David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

 

Sadly I think the answer to all of your questions is no.

This is why I think FS, given that they appear not to have touch HJPad for over a decade at least should consider releasing its code into public domain where VI community programmers  could possibly transform its usefulness.

Alternatively someone in-house could probably tweak it very quickly so that at least it would be possible to repair the user dictionaries function which over time would greatly assist a more helpful spell checking experience.

Getting Jaws to announce  formatting change when hotkeys are used to apply bold and so on would also make it seem more modern.

I have not contacted FS about this but if there is sufficient support here I may do so.

David Griffith

 

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

 

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Maria Campbell
 

f7 invokes the spellcheck in HJPad.




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On 11/10/2019 5:45 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Well, I'm confused by this post -- David over there already said Hj-Pad
comes with a spell-check. I took his word for it because I don't think I've
even run the thing once.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: November 10, 2019 4:50 PM
To: daj.griffith@...
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Hello All,
Its been a long while since Freedom Scientific has provided HJPad and if you
look at it very carefully and compare it with Wordpad, a simple and small
word processor that is bundled with Windows for as long as I can remember,
it is almost identical.
Freedom Scientific provides HJPad more as a notepad and it was not designed
for serious writing.
You could think of it as a way to create a shopping list and print it on a
printer so that when you go shopping with someone that person can refer to
it when helping you find items in the grocery store.
Now, I have heard that there is a spelling dictionary that can be linked to
HJPad but I don't know if it is still available and how well it works or
even how accessible it is.
I personally don't think that Freedom Scientific/Vispero will ever turn this
little program HJPad to the point where you wilol have a spell
checker/dictionary as then, it will cost us more to have the program as they
probably will have to buy a license for the spell checker/dictionary to be
added.