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moderated advice for a recording software

Tanguy LOHEAC
 

Hi

i'm recording trainings for blind and low vision people. For this, i used to use a software called Total Recorder for which there's no longer technical support.

I like it because it is really simple to cut, paste and insert chuncks of sounds within a file just like you would with text from a word processor. The point is that each time Windows updates it breaks my Total Recoder settins down along with the speed it records. I then spend lot of times to rescue and don't even really know how i eventually come up with my settings by chance.

That is why i'm looking for another recording software from which i could record my voice and caputre screen reader speaking out. I had a look at Audacity, but that something too complicated for what i'm doing (lot of  functionalities i don't need) and huge learning curve.

My other constraint is to be able to deal with uncompressed format like wav.

Could anyone advice either open source or payable sofwre, please?


Cheers

Tanguy

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moderated Re: JAWS and Plex Media Server

Blackwell, Clifford
 

Thanks for this information.  I’m contemplating using Plex to access music from my computer with an Echo 3rd gen.  I was needing to know how accessible with JAWS Plex was for setting things up and configuring it so that I can access my music elsewhere in the house.

 

This sets my mind at ease.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 5:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Plex Media Server

 

Hi,

I’d just like to throw a few things out there to clear the waters. Note that I literally got into Plex a few days ago.

You do not need a plex pass to listen to media on a mobile device. A one time fee of $4.99 will unlock it for that and future devices – this goes for the app store and google play store.

I’m not sure what said friend was doing, but it all depends on your upload speed. Obviously if you’re trying to sync a huge movie using your own internet connection it might not be as fast as copying it to one drive.

How are folks using plex on Windows with jaws? How do you find the experience? I should add here that I know you don’t need to pay anything if you’re going from computer to computer – and plex pass is far more than just letting you listen to your own content. It includes a streaming service similar to Netflix, hence the monthly $4.99. This is also clearly spelled out in the support articles.

I’m currently using it with Sonos (the music part) and for my needs it is working quite well. Your mileage may vary, of course, and it all depends on your needs, but I struggle to find something that is as open as this as far as streaming your own media from your home computer to just about any device on the planet that doesn’t involve some ridiculously complex setup. This seems to be a lot of set it and forget it, and the plex server software is web based and very useable with Jaws.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Plex Media Server

 

This is clearly off-topic, so if you'd care to take it private to number6@..., I understand.

 

So, I didn't uninstall, I have a smart television, what do I need to do in order to play media--MP4 and AVI--from my home network to the television using Plex?

 

On 11/8/2019 5:17 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

I use plex on a freenas server at my home and you dont need to buy a plex pass to watch movies. the pass gets you music streaming and tv shows. We also have it set up at our Air B and B for the 2 guest units and have no issues with them watching movies off the house server.

 

On 11/6/2019 8:37 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

Yes, I think you're right on that decision. I have it installed, think I'll uninstall it right now.

 

On 11/6/2019 9:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Reading about it on their web site and also about the iOS version in the app store, there are many features (not clearly specified) that are only available in the premium subscription.  The rates shown on the iOS app are $4.99 per month, or $39.99 per year or $149.99 for a lifetime Plex Pass.

One person said it takes forever to transfer files since it converts the format instead of using multiple formats.

They tried transferring a movie and many, many hours later it wasn’t finished.  He canceled that and manually copied it to OneDrive in 27 seconds.

Of course, that is copying to another place on the hard drive, but I know the sync time for OneDrive is very fast.

 

So, after reading about this with all of its promises, I think I will pass on this one.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Plex Media Server

 

It can be installed and used, I just don't know how to use it. I have it installed here, but don't have the first idea of what to do with it.

 

On 11/5/2019 2:33 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:

I’m about to try to install Plex on a Wondows 7 desktop running j2019 or possibly j2020.  Does anyone have any experience installing and running a Plex Media Server with JAWS?

 

 

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

James Bentley
 

I hope that a lot of polite inteligent conversation with FS might have a decent chance.  If enough of us could just convince them of the need.

 

I realize that Outlook and HJPad may not be important to everyone but how difficult would it be to just make a few minor upgrades.

 

James B

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

 

Sadly I think the answer to all of your questions is no.

This is why I think FS, given that they appear not to have touch HJPad for over a decade at least should consider releasing its code into public domain where VI community programmers  could possibly transform its usefulness.

Alternatively someone in-house could probably tweak it very quickly so that at least it would be possible to repair the user dictionaries function which over time would greatly assist a more helpful spell checking experience.

Getting Jaws to announce  formatting change when hotkeys are used to apply bold and so on would also make it seem more modern.

I have not contacted FS about this but if there is sufficient support here I may do so.

David Griffith

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

moderated Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if Iusing JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

David Griffith
 

I think turning virtual cursor off is a good tip but I must admit I never bother using it. If I want to jump to the buttons to control  playback in Spotify I simply  from anywhere on the spotify screen use control end to jump to the end of the playback  buttons. I always land on the mute  buttons and cursoring up a few times will land me on next play pause previous shuffle etc.

I have never found a way of performing fast forward or rewing on Spotify, only next and previous tracks.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 23:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if Iusing JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

Yeah, not sure about this programme specifically, but it sounds like the virtual cursor is on – any programme’s normal hotkeys will probably not work properly then. As was already said, you can turn this cursor on and off with insert-z. Very useful keystroke in web browsers, too.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: November 10, 2019 2:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

Hi everyone

 

Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the screen reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?

 

At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

Regards,

Anders

 

moderated Re: installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner

David Griffith
 

 

I can only speak generally about this as I have no direct experience of your printer and others may have better ideas.

 

Generally WiFi printers have to be setup to connect onto your local Wifi network, after which it should be pretty easy to find as an available printer on your PC.  This of course assumes you are also on the same WiFi network.

 

Because printers typically set up using a screens display, identifying and connecting to your WiFi is normally pretty inaccessible  in my experience.

For this reason  I have always used a sighted person to perform this initial task.  For my current WiFi printer I got a computer engineer to do it for me for £20 here in the UK.

 

There is one possibly accessible way of doing this for a blind person I am aware of and that is to use a pairing button if your router and printer have these.

 

It still however depends on this pairing option being available by default as soon as the printer is first turned on.

Also of course you will need to know which are the pairing buttons on both your printer and router.

 

I copy below some instructions from the Which Magazine in the UK.

 

If your printer and router are both compatible with Wireless Protected Setup (WPS) this should be an option in the printer’s network menu.

 

If so, when prompted, all you need to do is press the WPS pairing button on your router and the corresponding button on the printer to wirelessly connect

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ann Byrne
Sent: 10 November 2019 22:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner

 

this animal connects I believe via wi-fi.  My student says her phone

found it without her doing anything.  Will the computer find it?  How

do I make it happen?  I have googled and can't find what I think I need.

 

thanks for any help.

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner

Glenn / Lenny
 

There are typically two ways to connect to a printer, one is via WIFI only, and the other is through the network.
You may connect to the network via WIFI, but for this, that is meaningless.
So if you installed the software for it on the computer, if you want to connect through the network, tell the install program that it is a network printer.
If the printer is not wired into your modem/router, you can only connect via WIFI, like you are connecting to a hotspot.
You will have more control over the printer if it's plugged into your network, and you install it as such.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:55 PM
Subject: installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner


this animal connects I believe via wi-fi. My student says her phone found it without her doing anything. Will the computer find it? How do I make it happen? I have googled and can't find what I think I need.

thanks for any help.


moderated Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

JM Casey
 

Yeah, not sure about this programme specifically, but it sounds like the virtual cursor is on – any programme’s normal hotkeys will probably not work properly then. As was already said, you can turn this cursor on and off with insert-z. Very useful keystroke in web browsers, too.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: November 10, 2019 2:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

 

Hi everyone

 

Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the screen reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?

 

At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

Regards,

Anders

moderated installing hp office pro 8820 printer/scanner

Ann Byrne
 

this animal connects I believe via wi-fi. My student says her phone found it without her doing anything. Will the computer find it? How do I make it happen? I have googled and can't find what I think I need.

thanks for any help.

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

JM Casey
 

Yeah, Windows 10 is a little quick to panic about programmes not “answering”. It’s cute. I have winamp set to run in compatibility mode but I still get th is message sometimes. Goes away fairly quickly but, still – seems to be my first experience with a Windows oS being quite so demanding.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

As an addendum, I found out tonight that if you run the troubleshoot compatibility settings on the HJ Pad program shortcut, just use the application key  to bring up the troubleshoot compatibility  option and hit enter on use recommended settings this resolves the delay in HJ Pad loading with messages about the program not responding.

Now it is loading like lightning, as fast as Notepad.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

 

Sadly I think the answer to all of your questions is no.

This is why I think FS, given that they appear not to have touch HJPad for over a decade at least should consider releasing its code into public domain where VI community programmers  could possibly transform its usefulness.

Alternatively someone in-house could probably tweak it very quickly so that at least it would be possible to repair the user dictionaries function which over time would greatly assist a more helpful spell checking experience.

Getting Jaws to announce  formatting change when hotkeys are used to apply bold and so on would also make it seem more modern.

I have not contacted FS about this but if there is sufficient support here I may do so.

David Griffith

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

 

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Maria Campbell
 

f7 invokes the spellcheck in HJPad.




Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 11/10/2019 5:45 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Well, I'm confused by this post -- David over there already said Hj-Pad
comes with a spell-check. I took his word for it because I don't think I've
even run the thing once.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: November 10, 2019 4:50 PM
To: daj.griffith@...
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Hello All,
Its been a long while since Freedom Scientific has provided HJPad and if you
look at it very carefully and compare it with Wordpad, a simple and small
word processor that is bundled with Windows for as long as I can remember,
it is almost identical.
Freedom Scientific provides HJPad more as a notepad and it was not designed
for serious writing.
You could think of it as a way to create a shopping list and print it on a
printer so that when you go shopping with someone that person can refer to
it when helping you find items in the grocery store.
Now, I have heard that there is a spelling dictionary that can be linked to
HJPad but I don't know if it is still available and how well it works or
even how accessible it is.
I personally don't think that Freedom Scientific/Vispero will ever turn this
little program HJPad to the point where you wilol have a spell
checker/dictionary as then, it will cost us more to have the program as they
probably will have to buy a license for the spell checker/dictionary to be
added.




moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

JM Casey
 

Well, I'm confused by this post -- David over there already said Hj-Pad
comes with a spell-check. I took his word for it because I don't think I've
even run the thing once.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: November 10, 2019 4:50 PM
To: daj.griffith@...
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Hello All,
Its been a long while since Freedom Scientific has provided HJPad and if you
look at it very carefully and compare it with Wordpad, a simple and small
word processor that is bundled with Windows for as long as I can remember,
it is almost identical.
Freedom Scientific provides HJPad more as a notepad and it was not designed
for serious writing.
You could think of it as a way to create a shopping list and print it on a
printer so that when you go shopping with someone that person can refer to
it when helping you find items in the grocery store.
Now, I have heard that there is a spelling dictionary that can be linked to
HJPad but I don't know if it is still available and how well it works or
even how accessible it is.
I personally don't think that Freedom Scientific/Vispero will ever turn this
little program HJPad to the point where you wilol have a spell
checker/dictionary as then, it will cost us more to have the program as they
probably will have to buy a license for the spell checker/dictionary to be
added.

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Lino Morales
 

The spell checker is still their.

On 11/10/2019 4:50 PM, Milton Ota wrote:
Hello All,
Its been a long while since Freedom Scientific has provided HJPad and if you look at it very carefully and compare it with Wordpad, a simple and small word processor that is bundled with Windows for as long as I can remember, it is almost identical.
Freedom Scientific provides HJPad more as a notepad and it was not designed for serious writing.
You could think of it as a way to create a shopping list and print it on a printer so that when you go shopping with someone that person can refer to it when helping you find items in the grocery store.
Now, I have heard that there is a spelling dictionary that can be linked to HJPad but I don't know if it is still available and how well it works or even how accessible it is.
I personally don't think that Freedom Scientific/Vispero will ever turn this little program HJPad to the point where you wilol have a spell checker/dictionary as then, it will cost us more to have the program as they probably will have to buy a license for the spell checker/dictionary to be added.

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

Hello All,
Its been a long while since Freedom Scientific has provided HJPad and if you look at it very carefully and compare it with Wordpad, a simple and small word processor that is bundled with Windows for as long as I can remember, it is almost identical.
Freedom Scientific provides HJPad more as a notepad and it was not designed for serious writing.
You could think of it as a way to create a shopping list and print it on a printer so that when you go shopping with someone that person can refer to it when helping you find items in the grocery store.
Now, I have heard that there is a spelling dictionary that can be linked to HJPad but I don't know if it is still available and how well it works or even how accessible it is.
I personally don't think that Freedom Scientific/Vispero will ever turn this little program HJPad to the point where you wilol have a spell checker/dictionary as then, it will cost us more to have the program as they probably will have to buy a license for the spell checker/dictionary to be added.

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

David Griffith
 

As an addendum, I found out tonight that if you run the troubleshoot compatibility settings on the HJ Pad program shortcut, just use the application key  to bring up the troubleshoot compatibility  option and hit enter on use recommended settings this resolves the delay in HJ Pad loading with messages about the program not responding.

Now it is loading like lightning, as fast as Notepad.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

 

Sadly I think the answer to all of your questions is no.

This is why I think FS, given that they appear not to have touch HJPad for over a decade at least should consider releasing its code into public domain where VI community programmers  could possibly transform its usefulness.

Alternatively someone in-house could probably tweak it very quickly so that at least it would be possible to repair the user dictionaries function which over time would greatly assist a more helpful spell checking experience.

Getting Jaws to announce  formatting change when hotkeys are used to apply bold and so on would also make it seem more modern.

I have not contacted FS about this but if there is sufficient support here I may do so.

David Griffith

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

 

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

David Griffith
 

 

Sadly I think the answer to all of your questions is no.

This is why I think FS, given that they appear not to have touch HJPad for over a decade at least should consider releasing its code into public domain where VI community programmers  could possibly transform its usefulness.

Alternatively someone in-house could probably tweak it very quickly so that at least it would be possible to repair the user dictionaries function which over time would greatly assist a more helpful spell checking experience.

Getting Jaws to announce  formatting change when hotkeys are used to apply bold and so on would also make it seem more modern.

I have not contacted FS about this but if there is sufficient support here I may do so.

David Griffith

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

JM Casey
 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

moderated Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

James English
 

Hi,

If you press insert+z when you're on the songs, it'll work a lot better.

- James

On 11/10/19, Anders Boholdt-Petersen
<english_correspondences@...> wrote:
Hi everyone



Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup
the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the
screen
reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?



At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the
hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS
running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.



Thanks in advance for your answers.



Regards,

Anders




moderated Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

Anders Boholdt-Petersen
 

Hi everyone

 

Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the screen reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?

 

At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

Regards,

Anders

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

David Griffith
 

Yes this is certainly a workaround. Also increasingly web browsers offer quite accessible spell checking in their edit boxes as well. Because of the clunkiness  and unreliability of my spell checking with Word I have often used the spell checking with the Brave browser directly on WordPress as a second line of defence.

It would still be useful though to have an accessible light Text/Word Processor like HJ Pad updated so that these workarounds were not necessary.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 November 2019 18:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

I use Notepad ++, but I've never spell checked with it.

Usually if I need something spellchecked in notepad or on a web field, I open a new eMail message and paste it in there, and press F7 to spell check everything, and then I paste it back with the corrections.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

I saw some discussion of Notepad ++  on the NVDA list and the conclusion there  was that the Notepad ++ spell checker  addon was inaccessible even with the help of the NVDA addon but I would be happy to be told otherwise.

Another option is  of course Jarte which has a spell checker but again I find this less than easy to use with a screenreader, certainly not as easy as HJ Pad or the old style Word.

In the past I have tried Open and Libre Office but now avoid these as, apart from clunky accessibility in many areas they seemed to have an overly major impact on my Windows install and I ended up re-installing Windows to return to a cleaner leaner system.

The advantage of a small exe file like HJPad is that it is not a huge install impacting on general Windows usage and does not try to grab filetypes etc. For itself.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 November 2019 17:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

There are some good open source word processors, such as Notpad ++

I don't know if it spell checks though.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

 

moderated Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Glenn / Lenny
 


I use Notepad ++, but I've never spell checked with it.
Usually if I need something spellchecked in notepad or on a web field, I open a new eMail message and paste it in there, and press F7 to spell check everything, and then I paste it back with the corrections.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

I saw some discussion of Notepad ++  on the NVDA list and the conclusion there  was that the Notepad ++ spell checker  addon was inaccessible even with the help of the NVDA addon but I would be happy to be told otherwise.

Another option is  of course Jarte which has a spell checker but again I find this less than easy to use with a screenreader, certainly not as easy as HJ Pad or the old style Word.

In the past I have tried Open and Libre Office but now avoid these as, apart from clunky accessibility in many areas they seemed to have an overly major impact on my Windows install and I ended up re-installing Windows to return to a cleaner leaner system.

The advantage of a small exe file like HJPad is that it is not a huge install impacting on general Windows usage and does not try to grab filetypes etc. For itself.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 November 2019 17:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

There are some good open source word processors, such as Notpad ++

I don't know if it spell checks though.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith