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Re: websites appearing strangely

James English
 

Hi,

If it helps, I am using windows 10 with an I7 machine and jaws 2018.
The problem isn't that messenger (which is part of facebook) has
randomly changed, it's that it keeps reverting to this odd state every
6 weeks or so, and always on a particular random one of my browsers.
This time it is my (unextended) version of chrome, sometimes it is
internet explorer, sometimes it is firefox. The other browsers, aside
from the one it has decided to wrk strangely with, are fine; also it
is important to note that whenever it is working strangely, other
websites such as the online game politicsandwar.com also act
strangely.
Re-installing whichever browser, doing a complete scan and deleting
all internet files fails to solve this strange issue for me.

On 11/8/19, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
So, it's hard to know if you are experiencing anything specifically oriented
toward your computer and setup with the description you have given. I am not
familiar with messenger.com -- is it affiliated with facebook in some way?
If so -- Facebook is constantly tweaking and messing with their interface,
and they aren't the only ones. Since we use these "free" services, we are
basically used as testers for the various things they want to try. This
sometimes mean that yes, things disappear, appear in strange places, or not
as we would expect or maybe even want.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: websites appearing strangely

Hello,

I am starting to lose the plot with websites appearing strangely. This
happens on the odd occasion, lasts about 2 weeks and then sorts itself out
on its own: obviously I'd prefer if there was a way of sorting it out a lot
faster from my end.
It is browser independent though only appears to affect one browser at a
time )IE or Chrome), occurs with both jaws and nvda,and is highly annoying.
The best example I can give is with messenger.com, wherein various things
(such as the search box) will disappear, and the conversation headings will
be replaced with blank lines.

Any help in this matter would be appreciated,
- James






Tandem question

David Pearson
 

Hi list:

What version of Jaws would you need to "tandem" into someone's pc who's using the 2020 release?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson

Re: Tandem question

Glenn / Lenny
 

Jaws can tandem into the same version or older, but not newer.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 12:42 PM
Subject: Tandem question


Hi list:

What version of Jaws would you need to "tandem" into someone's pc who's using the 2020 release?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson

Re: Tandem question

JM Casey
 

JAWS 2020, I'm afraid.
It's an unfortunate limitation of the Tandem concept.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: November 9, 2019 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem question

Hi list:

What version of Jaws would you need to "tandem" into someone's pc who's
using the 2020 release?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson

Re: Tandem question

Marianne Denning
 

If you are on the controlling machine you need the same version they have or
a more recent version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem question

Hi list:

What version of Jaws would you need to "tandem" into someone's pc who's
using the 2020 release?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson

Re: Tandem question

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

test message

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tandem question

If you are on the controlling machine you need the same version they have or
a more recent version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem question

Hi list:

What version of Jaws would you need to "tandem" into someone's pc who's
using the 2020 release?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson

Re: Tandem question

David Goldfield
 

I recently assisted a user via JAWS Tandem. While I was using JAWS 2020
I'm fairly certain that she was using an earlier version. I remember
being concerned that the connection would not go through as I do
remember a time when both machines needed to be on the same version but
it actually worked with no issues.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/9/2019 3:48 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
If you are on the controlling machine you need the same version they have or
a more recent version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem question

Hi list:

What version of Jaws would you need to "tandem" into someone's pc who's
using the 2020 release?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson







Re: Tandem question

Glenn / Lenny
 

It worked because you had a newer version.
Your friend could not tandem into your machine with an older version than you are using.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: Tandem question


I recently assisted a user via JAWS Tandem. While I was using JAWS 2020
I'm fairly certain that she was using an earlier version. I remember
being concerned that the connection would not go through as I do
remember a time when both machines needed to be on the same version but
it actually worked with no issues.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/9/2019 3:48 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
If you are on the controlling machine you need the same version they have or
a more recent version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem question

Hi list:

What version of Jaws would you need to "tandem" into someone's pc who's
using the 2020 release?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson








moderated Re: The best accessible IP-scanner with JAWS

Anders Boholdt-Petersen
 

Hi again

I apologize for my late reply.

Now I have tried to install N MAP on my computer. When i after that open "Nmap - Zenmap GUI", I only can find a window with not accessible information for JAWS.

So how do you use N MAP with JAWS, and how can I via the program find IP-adresses etc. on my connected devices?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Anders

moderated Re: The best accessible IP-scanner with JAWS

Glenn / Lenny
 


Hi,
I currently don't have it installed on this installation of Windows, but I recall that I may have had to route the jaws cursor to a lower part of the screen to gather more information on something, like the name and mac address to be sure that it was located.
It's been over a year since I used it on this computer, and I reinstalled windows since then.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: The best accessible IP-scanner with JAWS

Hi again

I apologize for my late reply.

Now I have tried to install N MAP on my computer. When i after that open "Nmap - Zenmap GUI", I only can find a window with not accessible information for JAWS.

So how do you use N MAP with JAWS, and how can I via the program find IP-adresses etc. on my connected devices?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Anders

Spell Checking and HJ Pad

David Griffith
 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Glenn / Lenny
 


There are some good open source word processors, such as Notpad ++
I don't know if it spell checks though.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

moderated Re: The best accessible IP-scanner with JAWS

John Covici
 

use the ccommand line, nmap is a command line program, anything else
is on top of that.

On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 11:47:37 -0500,
Glenn / Lenny wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
Hi,
I currently don't have it installed on this installation of Windows, but I recall that I may have had to route the jaws cursor to a lower part of the screen to gather more information on something, like the name and mac address to be
sure that it was located.
It's been over a year since I used it on this computer, and I reinstalled windows since then.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Anders Boholdt-Petersen
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: The best accessible IP-scanner with JAWS

Hi again

I apologize for my late reply.

Now I have tried to install N MAP on my computer. When i after that open "Nmap - Zenmap GUI", I only can find a window with not accessible information for JAWS.

So how do you use N MAP with JAWS, and how can I via the program find IP-adresses etc. on my connected devices?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Anders

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...

Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

David Griffith
 

I saw some discussion of Notepad ++  on the NVDA list and the conclusion there  was that the Notepad ++ spell checker  addon was inaccessible even with the help of the NVDA addon but I would be happy to be told otherwise.

Another option is  of course Jarte which has a spell checker but again I find this less than easy to use with a screenreader, certainly not as easy as HJ Pad or the old style Word.

In the past I have tried Open and Libre Office but now avoid these as, apart from clunky accessibility in many areas they seemed to have an overly major impact on my Windows install and I ended up re-installing Windows to return to a cleaner leaner system.

The advantage of a small exe file like HJPad is that it is not a huge install impacting on general Windows usage and does not try to grab filetypes etc. For itself.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 November 2019 17:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

There are some good open source word processors, such as Notpad ++

I don't know if it spell checks though.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

Glenn / Lenny
 


I use Notepad ++, but I've never spell checked with it.
Usually if I need something spellchecked in notepad or on a web field, I open a new eMail message and paste it in there, and press F7 to spell check everything, and then I paste it back with the corrections.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

I saw some discussion of Notepad ++  on the NVDA list and the conclusion there  was that the Notepad ++ spell checker  addon was inaccessible even with the help of the NVDA addon but I would be happy to be told otherwise.

Another option is  of course Jarte which has a spell checker but again I find this less than easy to use with a screenreader, certainly not as easy as HJ Pad or the old style Word.

In the past I have tried Open and Libre Office but now avoid these as, apart from clunky accessibility in many areas they seemed to have an overly major impact on my Windows install and I ended up re-installing Windows to return to a cleaner leaner system.

The advantage of a small exe file like HJPad is that it is not a huge install impacting on general Windows usage and does not try to grab filetypes etc. For itself.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 November 2019 17:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

There are some good open source word processors, such as Notpad ++

I don't know if it spell checks though.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

David Griffith
 

Yes this is certainly a workaround. Also increasingly web browsers offer quite accessible spell checking in their edit boxes as well. Because of the clunkiness  and unreliability of my spell checking with Word I have often used the spell checking with the Brave browser directly on WordPress as a second line of defence.

It would still be useful though to have an accessible light Text/Word Processor like HJ Pad updated so that these workarounds were not necessary.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 November 2019 18:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

I use Notepad ++, but I've never spell checked with it.

Usually if I need something spellchecked in notepad or on a web field, I open a new eMail message and paste it in there, and press F7 to spell check everything, and then I paste it back with the corrections.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

I saw some discussion of Notepad ++  on the NVDA list and the conclusion there  was that the Notepad ++ spell checker  addon was inaccessible even with the help of the NVDA addon but I would be happy to be told otherwise.

Another option is  of course Jarte which has a spell checker but again I find this less than easy to use with a screenreader, certainly not as easy as HJ Pad or the old style Word.

In the past I have tried Open and Libre Office but now avoid these as, apart from clunky accessibility in many areas they seemed to have an overly major impact on my Windows install and I ended up re-installing Windows to return to a cleaner leaner system.

The advantage of a small exe file like HJPad is that it is not a huge install impacting on general Windows usage and does not try to grab filetypes etc. For itself.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 November 2019 17:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

There are some good open source word processors, such as Notpad ++

I don't know if it spell checks though.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

 

Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

Anders Boholdt-Petersen
 

Hi everyone

 

Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the screen reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?

 

At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

Regards,

Anders

Re: Spotify Desktop program for Windows and accessibility tips if I using JAWS for Windows 2019 or 2020

James English
 

Hi,

If you press insert+z when you're on the songs, it'll work a lot better.

- James

On 11/10/19, Anders Boholdt-Petersen
<english_correspondences@...> wrote:
Hi everyone



Have some person on this list some tips and tricks related to how I setup
the Spotify Desktop program so I have the best accessibility with the
screen
reader JAWS for Windows, and also if I should make some adjustment in JAWS?



At the time I write here, I e.g. not can skip to the next song with the
hotkeys in the Spotify desktop program (left control+right arrow) when JAWS
running. I must closing JAWS with Insert+F4 before the hotkeys working.



Thanks in advance for your answers.



Regards,

Anders




Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

JM Casey
 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

David Griffith
 

 

Sadly I think the answer to all of your questions is no.

This is why I think FS, given that they appear not to have touch HJPad for over a decade at least should consider releasing its code into public domain where VI community programmers  could possibly transform its usefulness.

Alternatively someone in-house could probably tweak it very quickly so that at least it would be possible to repair the user dictionaries function which over time would greatly assist a more helpful spell checking experience.

Getting Jaws to announce  formatting change when hotkeys are used to apply bold and so on would also make it seem more modern.

I have not contacted FS about this but if there is sufficient support here I may do so.

David Griffith

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 10 November 2019 20:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Hey.

 

Interesting post. I have known about this programme but never bothered to use it, since I’ve got several word processors and text editors at my disposal already. But your point about the spell-check is well taken. I use Word most of the time if I want to be “professional”, but I’ve stuck with 2016 non-subscription. The spell-check works alright, but it’s not exactly the nicest thing. I believe my spelling is accurate 99% of the time, so it’s not something I use much, but certainly for “pro” writing, I still believe in being cautious.

 

Can you do anything with the HJ-Pad dictionary at all? What languages does it recognise? Can you import other dictionaries?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: November 10, 2019 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Spell Checking and HJ Pad

 

Dear List

I think many people forget that for over a decade now there has been a basic word processor provided with Jaws called HJ Pad.

On my system it is located in

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\HJPAD.EXE

This is potentially a very useful utility. However it is unfortunately showing its age and takes a few seconds to load on my machine, normally after windows reporting a not responding message which then disappears.

This utility badly needs updating in other areas also but remains useful.

Whilst  this is by no means a fully fledge Word Processor in the style of Word many Word shortcuts work here. For example control H will bring up the replace dialogue with options for replace all etc. It also provide basic formatting with, if you need it bold, underline italics etc .  You will need  however to use Jaws key plus F to confirm format  information changes.

 

However I think the most valuable aspect to this little word processing utility lays not in format control but it extremely easy and accessible Spell checking functionality.

 

I find spellchecking in Word office subscription version increasingly un-intuitive. I can sort of use it but sometimes it appears to inexplicably miss obvious spelling errors. This is probably my user error but I never had problems with spell checking in earlier versions of Word and I do get a little lost amongst the mass of Grammar options Word now provides.

 

As result I am a little untrusting of Word, , especially for blog posting.

 

For quick and dirty checking of Blog posts HJPad is an option. The Spell Checker is not  modern, a little limited in vocabulary and any attempt to add a word to a User Dictionary results in an error message.

Nevertheless the Spell Checker is like stepping back in time to the easy early Word  Spell Checking dialogues and for quick blog checking is I think, still a useful free tool for Jaws

Users. I wish FS would devote just a little effort to update this utility as I am sure others would find it really useful with a little tweaking. With a slightly improved dictionary, and the repair of the broken ability to add words to a User dictionary it would really come in useful.

Also a basic script so that Jaws announces bold on  and off as control b and other formatting changes are made would also update this utility mightily.

If FS really cannot devote any time to updating this utility then perhaps they could  make it open source and freeware so that the VIP programming community could take this little product forward  and develop it to the benefit of screen reading users everywhere. It could then rise from obscurity to have a new life to assist many of us.

David Griffith

 

David Griffith