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moderated Re: Chrome & PDF's

Van Lant, Robin
 

Are you sure it's opening the PDF in Adobe? I find that PDFs that open in Google are readable by JAWS, whereas PDFs that opened directly in IE were not.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 9:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome & PDF's

Hi All,

I am a new user to Chrome. When I used to use IE, a PDF file would open in Adobe Reader and when I closed Adobe IE did not close. Since I have switched to Chrome, when I close a PDF file that I opened in Adobe and then close Adobe, Chrome closes as well. How can I set Chrome not to close when I close a PDF file? Thanks in advance!


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moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Van Lant, Robin
 

Mario,
The big selling point to the annual license is that you won't need to do any catch up payments to get the newest license. Eric D. says this a lot on the FS Cast for those who have an older version of JAWS. For those of us with a current SMA, it doesn’t seem to be a benefit to move to the annual license. It really is a nice method for breaking down the initial investment barrier and also for allowing people to move between screen readers without the guilt of having purchased a really expensive initial license.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Sieghard, just curious... if one falls behind in renewing their SMA and decides to switch to purchasing the annual subscription, do they pay for one subscription to update to the latest version therefore skipping payment for the versions where they stopped, or do they have to pay for each version that leads up to the latest version?


On 11/8/2019 7:01 AM, ARORA Meesha wrote:
Thank you for explaining it so well. And yes, the dealer in India is giving discount on purchasing JAWS along with SMA for next two years. SO I will be covered for three years.
Thank you. It's nice to have your opinion:)
Have a nice weekend!
Meesha


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

If you buy Jaws you should absolutely and positively buy the SMA with it and, unless you for some reason absolutely can't afford it you should maintain that SMA. Given the relatively rapid development of Windows 10, you will find that in 2 or 3 or 4 years you may not be able to get the best experience from Windows 10 unless you also have the latest release of Jaws, furthermore new features are added which often can be very useful such as Picture Smart in Jaws 2019 or the new Jaws Scan cursor in Jaws 2020 which kicks in whenever you open a Windows 10 app such as the Calculator etc. If you don't get an SMA which entitles you to two full upgrades and you want to upgrade, say in 3 years, you then basically have to buy two sMA'S, the first to cover you for the two versions you missed and another to get you up to date. For example:

Say you now buy Jaws 2020 along with an SMA. This will get you full access to Jaws 2020 and it will also entitle you to get Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022.
Lets assume you buy Jaws 2020 without SMA, but in the fall of 2022 you want to get Jaws 2023.
You would then have to buy two SMA's, one to cover Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022, then a second SMA which would then get you Jaws 2023 and entitle you to Jaws 2024.
In the end you pay the same except you have to pay for two SMA's all at once and you may actually pay more because often if you buy an SMA right away you get it for a slightly lesser price. I believe you are in India and I don't know how it is handled there, but I believe in the US and Canada you get a bit of a discount if you buy a new SMA within a couple of months after the old one runs out.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Thanks all and yes, the home version also can be installed on 3 computers.
Is it a good idea to go for sma as well?
I am trying to decide if I should go for sma as well along with purchase of JAWS?
Thanks
Meesha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and the difference in the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I am interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha





















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moderated Re: JAWS 2020 update Email

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

I should also add that you will no longer receive the DVD disk in the snail mail. It will no longer be mailed beginning with JAWS 2020.


moderated Re: Removing an annual license

Edward Green
 

Hi Ann,

If memory serves, to remove an activation you go to the JAWS entry in the programs list on your start menu, then Utilities, then Remove JAWS Authorization.

I don't know if this will increase the key count on FS Activate though, you may have to request a count reset too.

I should also say that that's the process for removing an ILM key, I'm guessing though don't know that it's the same or similar for removing an annual licence.

Cheers,

Ed

On 8 Nov 2019, at 16:56, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

My student now owns a perpetual licensed copy of JFW. I would like to remove the annual license authorization for her computer and replace it with the ILM version. I supposed go to help and uninstall. what happens to the authorization indicator when I do that? Does it need to go to an external medium, or does it just disappear into oblivion able to be accessed through the estore/portal somehow???

Thanks,

Ann (serial 1598)



moderated Re: JAWS 2020 update Email

John Doering
 

I have always received a newsletter Email from FS announcing the release of the update including links to the update files.
I have not received that Email yet and wonder where the other members of this list found out about the release of the update.

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2020 update Email

I have never received such an email from FS about an upgrade to a new version. being subscribed to this ml, someone eventually tends to mention it (Mike B).



On 11/8/2019 12:20 PM, John Doering wrote:
Hello:

I thought I would wait to receive the Email from FS before updating to
2020.  I have not received anything yet.  Has anyone else not heard from
FS regarding the 2020 update?

Thanks in advance,

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moderated Re: JAWS 2020 update Email

James Homuth
 

It's been a very, very long time since FS sent out any kind of product
update email. Eric D used to send them out himself, but that was back before
FS was FS I believe. Regardless, it's been long enough that I can't remember
the last one.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: November-08-19 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2020 update Email

I have never received such an email from FS about an upgrade to a new
version. being subscribed to this ml, someone eventually tends to mention it
(Mike B).



On 11/8/2019 12:20 PM, John Doering wrote:
Hello:

I thought I would wait to receive the Email from FS before updating to
2020.  I have not received anything yet.  Has anyone else not heard from
FS regarding the 2020 update?

Thanks in advance,

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moderated Re: JAWS 2020 update Email

Mario
 

I have never received such an email from FS about an upgrade to a new
version. being subscribed to this ml, someone eventually tends to
mention it (Mike B).

On 11/8/2019 12:20 PM, John Doering wrote:
Hello:

I thought I would wait to receive the Email from FS before updating to
2020.  I have not received anything yet.  Has anyone else not heard from
FS regarding the 2020 update?

Thanks in advance,

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moderated Re: JAWS 2020 update Email

Rick Mladek
 

I have received nothing.

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 update Email

 

Hello:

I thought I would wait to receive the Email from FS before updating to 2020.  I have not received anything yet.  Has anyone else not heard from FS regarding the 2020 update?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

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moderated JAWS 2020 update Email

John Doering
 

Hello:

I thought I would wait to receive the Email from FS before updating to 2020.  I have not received anything yet.  Has anyone else not heard from FS regarding the 2020 update?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

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moderated Removing an annual license

Ann Byrne
 

My student now owns a perpetual licensed copy of JFW. I would like to remove the annual license authorization for her computer and replace it with the ILM version. I supposed go to help and uninstall. what happens to the authorization indicator when I do that? Does it need to go to an external medium, or does it just disappear into oblivion able to be accessed through the estore/portal somehow???

Thanks,

Ann (serial 1598)


moderated Re: Chrome & PDF's

John Covici
 

You might be interested in an extension called tab to window where you
can turn tabs into separate windows. Also, pressing shift-enter on a
link is supposed to put it in a new window.

On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:09:47 -0500,
Cook, Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am a new user to Chrome. When I used to use IE, a PDF file would open in Adobe Reader and when I closed Adobe IE did not close. Since I have switched to Chrome, when I close a PDF file that I opened in Adobe and then close Adobe, Chrome closes as well. How can I set Chrome not to close when I close a PDF file? Thanks in advance!


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moderated Re: Chrome & PDF's

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

It would be interesting to know if you get this same reaction when using NVDA. Lately, Chrome has been crashing a lot, and Ctrl+W, which ought to close a single tab, closes the browser. A knowledgeable user ai talked to told me that this happens much less with NVDA. According to him, FS said they cannot replicate the problem. He has reported it to Google.

Also, you know in Chrome settings that you can set PDF's to download rather than display in Chrome. But it doesn't sound like you are displaying in Chrome, so you may already have done this.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome & PDF's

Hi All,

I am a new user to Chrome. When I used to use IE, a PDF file would open in Adobe Reader and when I closed Adobe IE did not close. Since I have switched to Chrome, when I close a PDF file that I opened in Adobe and then close Adobe, Chrome closes as well. How can I set Chrome not to close when I close a PDF file? Thanks in advance!


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moderated Chrome & PDF's

Cook, Steve
 

Hi All,

I am a new user to Chrome. When I used to use IE, a PDF file would open in Adobe Reader and when I closed Adobe IE did not close. Since I have switched to Chrome, when I close a PDF file that I opened in Adobe and then close Adobe, Chrome closes as well. How can I set Chrome not to close when I close a PDF file? Thanks in advance!


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moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Mario
 

Sieghard, just curious... if one falls behind in renewing their SMA and
decides to switch to purchasing the annual subscription, do they pay for
one subscription to update to the latest version therefore skipping
payment for the versions where they stopped, or do they have to pay for
each version that leads up to the latest version?

On 11/8/2019 7:01 AM, ARORA Meesha wrote:
Thank you for explaining it so well. And yes, the dealer in India is
giving discount on purchasing JAWS along with SMA for next two years. SO
I will be covered for three years.
Thank you. It's nice to have your opinion:)
Have a nice weekend!
Meesha


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

If you buy Jaws you should absolutely and positively buy the SMA with
it and, unless you for some reason absolutely can't afford it you should
maintain that SMA. Given the relatively rapid development of Windows 10,
you will find that in 2 or 3 or 4 years you may not be able to get the
best experience from Windows 10 unless you also have the latest release
of Jaws, furthermore new features are added which often can be very
useful such as Picture Smart in Jaws 2019 or the new Jaws Scan cursor in
Jaws 2020 which kicks in whenever you open a Windows 10 app such as the
Calculator etc. If you don't get an SMA which entitles you to two full
upgrades and you want to upgrade, say in 3 years, you then basically
have to buy two sMA'S, the first to cover you for the two versions you
missed and another to get you up to date. For example:

Say you now buy Jaws 2020 along with an SMA. This will get you full
access to Jaws 2020 and it will also entitle you to get Jaws 2021 and
Jaws 2022.
Lets assume you buy Jaws 2020 without SMA, but in the fall of 2022 you
want to get Jaws 2023.
You would then have to buy two SMA's, one to cover Jaws 2021 and Jaws
2022, then a second SMA which would then get you Jaws 2023 and entitle
you to Jaws 2024.
In the end you pay the same except you have to pay for two SMA's all
at once and you may actually pay more because often if you buy an SMA
right away you get it for a slightly lesser price. I believe you are in
India and I don't know how it is handled there, but I believe in the US
and Canada you get a bit of a discount if you buy a new SMA within a
couple of months after the old one runs out.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Thanks all and yes, the home version also can be installed on 3 computers.
Is it a good idea to go for sma as well?
I am trying to decide if I should go for sma as well along with
purchase of JAWS?
Thanks
Meesha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro
version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to
another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional
edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and
the difference in the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I
am interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various
applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha


moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

ARORA Meesha
 

Thank you for explaining it so well. And yes, the dealer in India is giving discount on purchasing JAWS along with SMA for next two years. SO I will be covered for three years.
Thank you. It's nice to have your opinion:)
Have a nice weekend!
Meesha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

If you buy Jaws you should absolutely and positively buy the SMA with it and, unless you for some reason absolutely can't afford it you should maintain that SMA. Given the relatively rapid development of Windows 10, you will find that in 2 or 3 or 4 years you may not be able to get the best experience from Windows 10 unless you also have the latest release of Jaws, furthermore new features are added which often can be very useful such as Picture Smart in Jaws 2019 or the new Jaws Scan cursor in Jaws 2020 which kicks in whenever you open a Windows 10 app such as the Calculator etc. If you don't get an SMA which entitles you to two full upgrades and you want to upgrade, say in 3 years, you then basically have to buy two sMA'S, the first to cover you for the two versions you missed and another to get you up to date. For example:

Say you now buy Jaws 2020 along with an SMA. This will get you full access to Jaws 2020 and it will also entitle you to get Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022.
Lets assume you buy Jaws 2020 without SMA, but in the fall of 2022 you want to get Jaws 2023.
You would then have to buy two SMA's, one to cover Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022, then a second SMA which would then get you Jaws 2023 and entitle you to Jaws 2024.
In the end you pay the same except you have to pay for two SMA's all at once and you may actually pay more because often if you buy an SMA right away you get it for a slightly lesser price. I believe you are in India and I don't know how it is handled there, but I believe in the US and Canada you get a bit of a discount if you buy a new SMA within a couple of months after the old one runs out.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Thanks all and yes, the home version also can be installed on 3 computers.
Is it a good idea to go for sma as well?
I am trying to decide if I should go for sma as well along with purchase of JAWS?
Thanks
Meesha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and the difference in the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I am interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha


moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

David Griffith
 

 

Yes I think you are  right. When I was in work I had  to use Jaws Professional  as we used XP Pro.   In those days I was only allowed 3 activations. I changed to Home for obvious reasons once I had retired to save money as work was no longer updating Jaws and Professional was no longer needed on what was then a Home Windows 7 system.

It may be now that Jaws Professional Activations has increased to 5 but it most definitely did not in previous years  when I worked as I had to manage my activations just as carefully as now.

David Griffith

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 07 November 2019 17:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

 

The link you provided is for the Enterprise license which works with Jaws Professional but has nothing at all to do with how a "normal" person would use/license Jaws Professional.

It even says in the article:

 

EOTSS has converted its licenses for JAWS for Windows to Enterprise Licenses.  This allows up to ten (10) concurrent users to connect to the Freedom Scientific license server for using JAWS.

If you try to connect when all licenses are already in use, JAWS will launch in "Demo mode," which will work for only 40 minutes.

Please be sure to close JAWS on your computer when you are done using it so the license will be available to other users.

 

This is a setup for organizations where a server is used to control the licensing, Jaws pro is installed on individual computers or workstations, but it looks to the server to see if it can run without restrictions or whether it needs to go into demo mode. It is my understanding an organization can buy as many licenses as they want, e.g. they could have a Jaws license server which allows for 100 users to connect. This is different from somebody who in the past needed Jaws Professional because they were running Windows XP Professional back in the day when if you had XP Pro you actually needed Jaws professional because Jaws Home would only run on the home version of an OS. I think with Windows 7 that requirement was no longer necessary, e.g. you could run Windows 7 Professional with a Jaws Home license, however, if you have Jaws professional and use it for your own purposes or in your own business where maybe you have 2 or 3 or 5 PC's then I think theoretically the 3 PC rule still applies although I have it on my laptop and 4 PC's at work and it has always activated for me.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66

Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 9:03 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

 

then you didn't have pro.

the pro versions allows you to install it on 10 computers.

 

https://wiki.state.ma.us/display/assistivetechnologygroup/Using+the+JAWS+Enterprise+License

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: James Malone

Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 5:33 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

 

When I had pro, I was only allowed 3.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66

Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 3:26 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

 

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to another computer.

other then this they are the same

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Dave Durber

Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

 

 

The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and the difference in the price.

 

HTH

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: ARORA Meesha

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM

Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

 

 

Hello members,

 

I am currently using JAWS 2020  commercial license in my office and I am interested to purchase JAWS 2020  Home edition for my personal use.

 

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

 

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

 

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

 

Thanks,

 

Meesha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

If you buy Jaws you should absolutely and positively buy the SMA with it and, unless you for some reason absolutely can't afford it you should maintain that SMA. Given the relatively rapid development of Windows 10, you will find that in 2 or 3 or 4 years you may not be able to get the best experience from Windows 10 unless you also have the latest release of Jaws, furthermore new features are added which often can be very useful such as Picture Smart in Jaws 2019 or the new Jaws Scan cursor in Jaws 2020 which kicks in whenever you open a Windows 10 app such as the Calculator etc. If you don't get an SMA which entitles you to two full upgrades and you want to upgrade, say in 3 years, you then basically have to buy two sMA'S, the first to cover you for the two versions you missed and another to get you up to date. For example:

Say you now buy Jaws 2020 along with an SMA. This will get you full access to Jaws 2020 and it will also entitle you to get Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022.
Lets assume you buy Jaws 2020 without SMA, but in the fall of 2022 you want to get Jaws 2023.
You would then have to buy two SMA's, one to cover Jaws 2021 and Jaws 2022, then a second SMA which would then get you Jaws 2023 and entitle you to Jaws 2024.
In the end you pay the same except you have to pay for two SMA's all at once and you may actually pay more because often if you buy an SMA right away you get it for a slightly lesser price. I believe you are in India and I don't know how it is handled there, but I believe in the US and Canada you get a bit of a discount if you buy a new SMA within a couple of months after the old one runs out.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Thanks all and yes, the home version also can be installed on 3 computers.
Is it a good idea to go for sma as well?
I am trying to decide if I should go for sma as well along with purchase of JAWS?
Thanks
Meesha

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and the difference in the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I am interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha


moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

The link you provided is for the Enterprise license which works with Jaws Professional but has nothing at all to do with how a "normal" person would use/license Jaws Professional.
It even says in the article:

EOTSS has converted its licenses for JAWS for Windows to Enterprise Licenses. This allows up to ten (10) concurrent users to connect to the Freedom Scientific license server for using JAWS.
If you try to connect when all licenses are already in use, JAWS will launch in "Demo mode," which will work for only 40 minutes.
Please be sure to close JAWS on your computer when you are done using it so the license will be available to other users.

This is a setup for organizations where a server is used to control the licensing, Jaws pro is installed on individual computers or workstations, but it looks to the server to see if it can run without restrictions or whether it needs to go into demo mode. It is my understanding an organization can buy as many licenses as they want, e.g. they could have a Jaws license server which allows for 100 users to connect. This is different from somebody who in the past needed Jaws Professional because they were running Windows XP Professional back in the day when if you had XP Pro you actually needed Jaws professional because Jaws Home would only run on the home version of an OS. I think with Windows 7 that requirement was no longer necessary, e.g. you could run Windows 7 Professional with a Jaws Home license, however, if you have Jaws professional and use it for your own purposes or in your own business where maybe you have 2 or 3 or 5 PC's then I think theoretically the 3 PC rule still applies although I have it on my laptop and 4 PC's at work and it has always activated for me.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

then you didn't have pro.
the pro versions allows you to install it on 10 computers.

https://wiki.state.ma.us/display/assistivetechnologygroup/Using+the+JAWS+Enterprise+License



-----Original Message-----
From: James Malone
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 5:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

When I had pro, I was only allowed 3.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional edition. In other words, there is no difference, except in the name and the difference in the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I am interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha


moderated Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

netbat66
 

then you didn't have pro.
the pro versions allows you to install it on 10 computers.

https://wiki.state.ma.us/display/assistivetechnologygroup/Using+the+JAWS+Enterprise+License

-----Original Message-----
From: James Malone
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 5:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

When I had pro, I was only allowed 3.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version

Not so. The home version can only be installed on 3 computers. the pro version i think is 5 or more computers. and you can use remote access to another computer.
other then this they are the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


The JAWS Home Edition is the same as having the JAWS Proffessional edition. In
other words, there is no difference, except in the name and the difference in
the price.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

From: ARORA Meesha
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Any difference between JAWS home and commercial version


Hello members,

I am currently using JAWS 2020 commercial license in my office and I am
interested to purchase JAWS 2020 Home edition for my personal use.

Is there is a difference in the functionalities while using various
applications in both the editions-home and commercial version?

I have got Windows 10 home edition in my personal laptop.

Also is it a good idea to purchase SMA along with JAWS?

Thanks,

Meesha


moderated Re: Addressing envelopes

James Bentley
 

Many many, thanks.  I want it.

 

James B

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Addressing envelopes

 

For anyone who may want it, I created a MS-Word document template several years ago for a #10 standard business sized envelope that is screen-reader accessible and has two fields, one for the return address and the other for the address.  Both should be announced when landed in by the screen reader and can be repeated if you hit the help key.  There is nothing in this other than the envelope, so you don't have to deal with an "orphan page" for a letter.

The return address is always positioned pretty much perfectly.  The main address will always be near the center of the envelope but depending on how many lines you have may or may not be perfectly positioned vertically.

#10 Business Envelope MS-Word Document Template
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

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