Date   

moderated Re: How to update JAWS 2020

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Meesha & List:

Any time I have updated my JAWS version previously, I have had to download the new JAWS
from the FS.com web site.

 

The check for updates function of JAWS only checks for updates to the version

you are running.

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Hello,

I currently have JAWS 2019 running on my system and I am entitled to JAWS 2020 as a part of my SMA. I would like to confirm whether I need to download JAWS 2020 on my system separately or it will automatically be updated if I click “Check for updates” in JAWS 2019 help option?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha Arora

Accounts Receivable’s Team

Assistant Finance Manager

Phone: 0121 635 4522

Internal: 830-4522

Sopra Steria

Email : meesha.arora@...

 


moderated How to update JAWS 2020

ARORA Meesha
 

Hello,

I currently have JAWS 2019 running on my system and I am entitled to JAWS 2020 as a part of my SMA. I would like to confirm whether I need to download JAWS 2020 on my system seperatley or it will automatically be updated if I click “Check for updates” in JAWS 2019 help option?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha Arora

Accounts Receivable’s Team

Assistant Finance Manager

Phone: 0121 635 4522

Internal: 830-4522

Sopra Steria

Email : meesha.arora@...

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Diane & List:

You are correct. The offline installer is close to 1 GB mot 1 TB.

While Vispero says their installer can determine the correct version to install, I find it always installs the 32-bit version on my 64-bit system.

Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I thought that 1 TB was 1000 GB, and 1 GB is 1000 MB. Have I forgotten something?

Diane Bomar
On Oct 30, 2019, at 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Bogey
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832 MB which is very close to 1 Terabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.

On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 50's and early 220's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by increased software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40 Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c ds for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigne
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigne
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@...
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Leedy Diane Bomar
 

I thought that 1TB was 1000 GB, and 1 GB is 1000 MB. Have I forgotten something?


Diane Bomar
On Oct 30, 2019, at 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@...
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
































moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Richard Turner
 

I know you know, but it was fun catching you out, grin.
Great use of emojis.
Later,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



Oops, of course and I now feel somewhat sheepish for writing it’s almost 1 Terrabyte when I meant 1 Gigabyte; I really do know the difference 🐵🤯

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

Actually, 1 Terabyte is 1000 gigabytes.

1 gigabyte is 1000 megabytes.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:

I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.

 

 

 

Love in Christ

Marty

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the

rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to

resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

What are you asking?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty

Hutchings

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

500 or 600 GB?

 

 

 

Love in Christ

Marty

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the

rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to

resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's

behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of

plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD

drive for many years.

The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly

small setup program which means it does not contain all the files

needed for installation, instead it will download what is required

from the web.

This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been

this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and

Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to

Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like

this and so are many others.

The one difference between installers like most of the ones I

mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep

the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year

from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever

is the latest version.

For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the

version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over

40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections

nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about

32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and

knows which to install.

The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR

component during the installation.

If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very

slow internet connection where it's better to have everything

downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire

DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download

and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and

would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.

They suggest downloading the update and then installing.  Then saving

the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal

Lavigna

Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Importance: High

 

This is true.  I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading

somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTranscriptsByLoreal&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb00af6860acd4961648d08d75db989ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637080923765829910&amp;sdata=kCoBsD3EndumMoFV4fsEYB9VQdjv49v%2FHqLWK%2F%2Bx%2BGY%3D&amp;reserved=0

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that

they are not sending out c d's anymore.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard

Weitzel

Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue

this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out

DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the

DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release

which you would get on the DVD.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.

----- Original Message -----

From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM

Subject: Jaws 2020

 

 

Hi list:

 

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program  release on cd,

and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

David S. Pearson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 














moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

Sieghard,

 

I have to agree with Richard and Norma. I think you confused your terabytes with your gigabytes.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

Actually, 1 Terabyte is 1000 gigabytes.

1 gigabyte is 1000 megabytes.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:

I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.

 

 

 

Love in Christ

Marty

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the

rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to

resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

What are you asking?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty

Hutchings

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

500 or 600 GB?

 

 

 

Love in Christ

Marty

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the

rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to

resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's

behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of

plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD

drive for many years.

The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly

small setup program which means it does not contain all the files

needed for installation, instead it will download what is required

from the web.

This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been

this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and

Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to

Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like

this and so are many others.

The one difference between installers like most of the ones I

mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep

the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year

from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever

is the latest version.

For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the

version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over

40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections

nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about

32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and

knows which to install.

The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR

component during the installation.

If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very

slow internet connection where it's better to have everything

downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire

DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download

and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and

would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.

They suggest downloading the update and then installing.  Then saving

the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal

Lavigna

Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Importance: High

 

This is true.  I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading

somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTranscriptsByLoreal&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb00af6860acd4961648d08d75db989ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637080923765829910&amp;sdata=kCoBsD3EndumMoFV4fsEYB9VQdjv49v%2FHqLWK%2F%2Bx%2BGY%3D&amp;reserved=0

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that

they are not sending out c d's anymore.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard

Weitzel

Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue

this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out

DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the

DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release

which you would get on the DVD.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.

----- Original Message -----

From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM

Subject: Jaws 2020

 

 

Hi list:

 

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program  release on cd,

and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

David S. Pearson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 














moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

Oops, of course and I now feel somewhat sheepish for writing it’s almost 1 Terrabyte when I meant 1 Gigabyte; I really do know the difference 🐵🤯

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

Actually, 1 Terabyte is 1000 gigabytes.

1 gigabyte is 1000 megabytes.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:

I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.

 

 

 

Love in Christ

Marty

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the

rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to

resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

What are you asking?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty

Hutchings

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

500 or 600 GB?

 

 

 

Love in Christ

Marty

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the

rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to

resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's

behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of

plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD

drive for many years.

The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly

small setup program which means it does not contain all the files

needed for installation, instead it will download what is required

from the web.

This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been

this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and

Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to

Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like

this and so are many others.

The one difference between installers like most of the ones I

mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep

the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year

from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever

is the latest version.

For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the

version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over

40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections

nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about

32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and

knows which to install.

The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR

component during the installation.

If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very

slow internet connection where it's better to have everything

downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire

DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download

and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and

would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.

They suggest downloading the update and then installing.  Then saving

the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal

Lavigna

Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Importance: High

 

This is true.  I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading

somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTranscriptsByLoreal&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb00af6860acd4961648d08d75db989ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637080923765829910&amp;sdata=kCoBsD3EndumMoFV4fsEYB9VQdjv49v%2FHqLWK%2F%2Bx%2BGY%3D&amp;reserved=0

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that

they are not sending out c d's anymore.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard

Weitzel

Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue

this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out

DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the

DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release

which you would get on the DVD.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.

----- Original Message -----

From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM

Subject: Jaws 2020

 

 

Hi list:

 

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program  release on cd,

and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

David S. Pearson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 














moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Richard Turner
 

Actually, 1 Terabyte is 1000 gigabytes.
1 gigabyte is 1000 megabytes.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing.  Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true.  I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone:  (518)330-5188
E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...
Website:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTranscriptsByLoreal&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb00af6860acd4961648d08d75db989ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637080923765829910&amp;sdata=kCoBsD3EndumMoFV4fsEYB9VQdjv49v%2FHqLWK%2F%2Bx%2BGY%3D&amp;reserved=0

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program  release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
















































moderated Re: Can't create a shortcut for JAWS 2020.

 

Are you sure you aren't using any of those for other versions of Jaws? Go into the properties for Jaws 2019 and see what the shortcut is. I don't know how many versions of Jaws you have on your system, but I assume it isn't unlikely that you have at least Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020 and a keyboard shortcut combination can of course only be used once.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:46 PM
To: JAWS User's Group Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Can't create a shortcut for JAWS 2020.

Hi to all.
For some weird reason when I go to the properties of JAWS 2020, it won't allow me to create a shortcut.
I've tried Alt CTRL J, I've tried CTRL Shift J and no luck.
So how can I get a short cut for JAWS created?
Many Thanks.
Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes, From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@...
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
































moderated Re: [External] J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

 

Hi Orlando,

First of all this seems to be something which appears to be quite unique to you since I can easily add stuff to the dictionary. Furthermore, I am on the private Jaws beta team and I have heard about no such bug, in fact, another member of said beta team posted a message today referring to your post on this list asking if this is a problem for others.
As for Vispero not caring I also have to disagree. I have had some major problems with my point of sale and accounting software which both is legacy software. Under Windows 7 I could read and do a lot with the Jaws cursor which does no longer work in Windows 10. I contacted Vispero with this and they have assigned one of their developers who happens to be in Germany where I am also from originally to investigate this because it is also an interesting issue for them because they feel that if they can get the Jaws cursor to read this information again it will also help them overall to bring back more functionality as we knew it in Windows 7. It is quite a process to get this software up and running because first one has to install SQL, then the software, then about 4 updates and fearture packs as well as two pieces of additional software which piggybacks onto the database and which add functionality. I provided all this to the developer via Dropbox as well as an older backup of my retail store's database and he has already made progress which I know also translates to other applications.
I know It can be frustrating when you encounter an issue which prevents you from doing things the way you are used to, I spend a lot of time, in fact, about 2 years corresponding with various people from Vispero before somebody said they would take this on because they felt it would be of use not just to me but also to many other people who use older software for work or their own business. One thing I found is that it always pays off to approach a company using a reasonable tone, laying out the problem and letting them know that you understand that they also are busy, have priorities and they may not get to your issue right away. Jaws 2020 public beta has only been around for a month or so and if there really is an issue which is not caused by a unique problem or configuration on your system I am sure they will get to it. In the next Jaws update another issue which has come up on this list from time to time will be fixed, sorry, I can't say what because I agreed to not disclose private beta related stuff, but believe me, Vispero and their developers are working hard on fixing stuff and adding features.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

At 06:49 AM 10/30/2019, David Goldfield wrote:
>I'll admit that I was one of those users who was initially >disappointed at what I perceived as a minor update without the >earthshaking large feature set I was hoping to see in the initial 2020 >release. However, I thought better of it when I considered what we >experienced with the 2019 release cycle. The initial 2019 update also >didn't contain a huge amount of new features but we certainly saw that >new features were added over time during the 2019 update cycle, such >as the picture smart feature. I know that JAWS users are used to >massive feature updates when the new release is launched, followed by >a series of minor maintenance updates during the year. What I think >we're seeing are features which roll out over time, rather than one >big update containing 25 brand new features all at once.

I'm more concerned about old features continuing to work than new features. Ever since the first beta and now with the official 2020 release, I cannot add dictionary entries to my default file, nor can I associate another file as my default dictionary. My only recourse is to add entries manually to the file in Notepad, which is tedious and time consuming. How can such a basic aspect of screen-reading software go unnoticed and unattended, especially since I've reported this problem since the first beta, and sent Vispero Support detailed crash dumps? Answer: They just don't care. Software developers only listen to us when we threaten to withdraw our financial support.Orlando Enrique Fiol Ph.D. in Music Theory University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018 Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090
Email: ofiol@...


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Norma A. Boge
 

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@...
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
































moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing.  Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true.  I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone:  (518)330-5188
E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...
Website:  http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program  release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
































moderated Can't create a shortcut for JAWS 2020.

Ron Kolesar
 

Hi to all.
For some weird reason when I go to the properties of JAWS 2020, it won't allow me to create a shortcut.
I've tried Alt CTRL J, I've tried CTRL Shift J and no luck.
So how can I get a short cut for JAWS created?
Many Thanks.
Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: a couple of Jaws questions

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 12:48 PM 10/30/2019, David Pearson wrote:
Had latest Jaws (2020 downloaded(via tandem) this morning. 2019
version still remains. Should the older(2019) version be deleted, and if yes, what's the best method to do this?

Add/remove programs or programs and settings, right in Windows. If you type "add" or "remove" in to the start menu search field, you'll hear the result and be able to launch the Windows uninstaller. You can also uninstall programs from the disc cleanup utility by switching to the second tab rather than the first, where all the cleanup options are set. Here, you get a list of your installed apps, where you'll undoubtedly find JAWS 2019.

Further, when the new(2020) Jaws version starts, it says something
about an older version being detected, and asking me if I want to "import/migrate settings". Is this anything to be concerned about, and should this have been done via the tandem session when the 2020 release was installed?

Not necessarily. Some users keep multiple JAWs versions on the same system, each with different settings. I personally don't do this because I usually don't want or need older JAWS versions for anything. However, with 2020, and with the previous three betas, I haven't been able to save dictionary entries using the dialogue. I can only save the manually. So perhaps, if I get really desperate, I can reinstall 2019 solely to have a working dictionary dialogue.



Orlando Enrique Fiol


moderated Re: Found my first problem with JFW 2020

Maria Campbell
 

I can't believe the mistake I made about my installation of j2020.  It's this simple:  I kept on hearing j2019, rather than J20.19 and the rest of the version number, thus thinking j2020 had not installed properly.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 10/30/2019 12:11 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Maria,

If you installed Jaws 2020 and activated it and then accidently loaded Jaws 2019 it would of course report you have 1 less SMA than before.
Make sure you use the correct shortcut to load Jaws 2020.
As for Windows asking to continue with administrator rights that is not at all related to Jaws, it happens on some of my Windows 10 machines all the time regardless which shortcut I want to create or add a keyboard shortcut to.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Found my first problem with JFW 2020

It's bad.  I must have a bad installation of J2020.  When I check the version in use, it still says J2019, even though I'm supposed to be inJ 2020.  However, in j2019 I had four upgrades, and in this new confused version I see only three upgrades left.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 10/29/2019 6:19 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
Oh that, That has been going on with windows for years. It is just
more frequent with windows 10. Not sure why it happens to most of us
but not to everyone then all of a sudden it does. Nothing you can do
about it. If there was a way to stop it be leave me a lot of us would
do it.`


On 10/29/2019 3:06 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Why would I have to hit continue with administration rights just to
set up a shortcut key to start JAWS all of a sudden?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
nothing.

On 10/29/2019 5:59 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
If you are using a normal or guest account you have to log into your
main user account that has administrative rights. This has nothing
to do with jaws it is windows restricting access to your PC. Only
administrators can install programs or change most settings.

On 10/29/2019 2:48 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
How do I give myself administration rights that JAWS 2020 is
suddenly asking for?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
nothing.

On 10/29/2019 4:31 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
It works fine on my win 10 1903 version with TB 60.

On 10/29/2019 10:36 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
Sorry Andrew that's what I meant.

On 10/29/2019 1:33 PM, Andrew Summers via Groups.Io wrote:
It's not JAWS key plus F3, it's JAWS key plus NumPad3.

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino
Morales
Sent: 29 October 2019 16:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Found my first problem with JFW 2020

Well to me its minor IMHO, but JAWS 2020 will not read the
status using JAWS key plus F3 using Thunderbird V 68.2.










moderated Re: [External] J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 06:49 AM 10/30/2019, David Goldfield wrote:
I'll admit that I was one of those users who was initially
disappointed at what I perceived as a minor update without the
earthshaking large feature set I was hoping to see in the initial 2020
release. However, I thought better of it when I considered what we
experienced with the 2019 release cycle. The initial 2019 update also
didn't contain a huge amount of new features but we certainly saw that
new features were added over time during the 2019 update cycle, such
as the picture smart feature. I know that JAWS users are used to
massive feature updates when the new release is launched, followed by
a series of minor maintenance updates during the year. What I think
we're seeing are features which roll out over time, rather than one
big update containing 25 brand new features all at once.
I'm more concerned about old features continuing to work than new features. Ever since the first beta and now with the official 2020 release, I cannot add dictionary entries to my default file, nor can I associate another file as my default dictionary. My only recourse is to add entries manually to the file in Notepad, which is tedious and time consuming. How can such a basic aspect of screen-reading software go unnoticed and unattended, especially since I've reported this problem since the first beta, and sent Vispero Support detailed crash dumps? Answer: They just don't care. Software developers only listen to us when we threaten to withdraw our financial support.Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090
Email: ofiol@...


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Chris Hill
 

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.

On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing.  Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true.  I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone:  (518)330-5188
E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...
Website:  http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program  release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson































moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Loy
 

Jaws 2020 download file is 44,122 KB or about 40MB.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020


500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version. For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install. The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@...
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson


























moderated Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

JM Casey
 

Oh yeah, only the classic skin will work properly. Accept no substitutes.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 30, 2019 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

Hay all,  The comment about skins got me thinking, so I reinstalled Winamp on the laptop and set the skins to classic, which is what I had it set to on my desktop and what to you know, it works now.  JAWS reads the tracks in the play list as i up and down arrow through it and the cross-fading works after a little fiddling  with it.

Thanks for baring with me through this.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

His email said he was on Jaws 2019  and not Jaws 15 this end which should be completely unproblematic.

.

However I agree  that he should experiment with views/skins in Winamp.

If that does not work then Possibly uninstall Winamp completely and re-download from  http://ninite.com/ and try again with the tried and tested method.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 28 October 2019 22:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

Something is wrong if you cannot arrow through eh playlist editor. This works fine for me in Windows 10, using JFW. And as Winamp hasn’t been updated much since 2013 or so (except for that 5.8 beta version that was mysteriously released recently), JAWS 15 should really still do what you need. However, if you are on Windows 10 with JAWS 15, you may already be experiencing a whole host of problems.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 28, 2019 5:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

My daughter wants me to DJ for her 16 birthday this Saturday.  Her play list is completed.  I had planned to run the music from a Windows 10 laptop running JAWS 2019 and Winamp which allows cross fading of songs, but JAWS does not tell me which screen that I am in nor does it let me arrow up and down through the play list as it used to with Windows 7 on my desktop machine.  I decided to use Windows Media Player on the laptop which does let me arrow through the play list and reads the tracks, but no cross fading feature.  Is there a plugin for Windows Media Player that will do this for me?  I tried looking at the plugin download menu option through the player, but no joy.  Just sound enhancers for surround sound.