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moderated Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

A way to quickly create a desktop shortcut is nice, but it’s also not difficult to create one manually.

Just go to the address bar, copy the URL, minimize to the desktop and make sure nothing has focus, then press the application key or Shift + F10, arrow to “New” or press “w”, expand with the right arrow and arrow down to “Shortcut” or press “s”.

Now paste in your URL, press enter, type the name you want the shortcut to have and press enter and you are done.

If you use Chrome you can go to the menu, More Tools and select “Create Shortcut”.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

Yes, that would be really nice. I read somewhere that you can also create a bookmark and then copy it to your desktop, but have not tried it at all.

                                                            Greetings from Greece,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

There used to be a Firefox plugin called “Deskcut” that worked really nicely.  However, it seems it is no longer available.  If someone knows where to get it, please reply!  With Deskcut, a context menu choice was added to the applications key (shift+F10) “save link” that put a shortcut onto your desktop.  It worked like the IE “send shortcut to desktop” command.  I have not found a similar Firefox substitute.  If anyone knows of a good substitute, please reply!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

Thank you very much Brian. I would have expected a somewhat friendlier way for us blind people, as I have found with chrome, but not with Firefox so far.

                                             Take care,

                                             Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

The "Method One" documented here, https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-website-shortcut-on-desktop-in-windows-10/, will work to create a desktop shortcut that will open under your default web browser in Windows 10.

If Firefox is not your default web browser, and you want to use it as an exception case, things get slightly more complicated.  For the moment I will presume it is your default.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Beta 3 J2020.1910.37 Download Link + More

 

If you are asking regarding the final public release of Jaws 2020 it will probably come either late next week or the week after which would be the week of November 4th. This has historically been the time frame when the next major Jaws version has been released and I don't think it will change.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta 3 J2020.1910.37 Download Link + More

Hi, thanks for the beta link, just a question, any idea on the stable out?

On 10/17/19, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi All,

Below is the download link for J2020.1910.37 Beta 3 and what's new in
this

release + a shortcut link to the Beta report form.

32 & 64 bit:

http://jaws2020.vfo.digital/2020.1910.37.400/5BD4B3B5-2C1F-4000-BAF0-C
E4C8C310E5D/J2020.1910.37-any.exe

What's New:

The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 2 and
Public Beta 3. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are
included in this release, the following is a list of more notable
changes.

Updated BraillePen Display Driver

Added an updated driver from Harpo in Poland to support their New
BraillePen

14 Braille device in addition to the previously supported BraillePen 12T.
Now, all models are supported by this driver.

Other Changes
list of 5 items
• The new "Virtual Cursor On/Off based on Browser Tabs" option in
Settings Center is now turned on by default.
• JAWS now announces the currently selected menu in Google Docs when
you activate a menu or use LEFT and RIGHT ARROW to move between menus.
• JAWS now indicates list items markers in Google Docs. For example,
if your

document contains a numbered list, you should hear "1, 2, 3," and so
on as you navigate the list.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS stopped responding
when moving over a link in a Word document and a Braille display was connected.
• In Adobe Reader, when moving between pages in a document , addressed
a customer reported issue where JAWS was skipping the first line of
the new page.
list end

Beta Report Form Link:

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Forms/JAWSBetaReport


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams!
Every man should marry. After all, happiness is not the only thing in life.





--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


moderated Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Yes, that would be really nice. I read somewhere that you can also create a bookmark and then copy it to your desktop, but have not tried it at all.

                                                            Greetings from Greece,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

There used to be a Firefox plugin called “Deskcut” that worked really nicely.  However, it seems it is no longer available.  If someone knows where to get it, please reply!  With Deskcut, a context menu choice was added to the applications key (shift+F10) “save link” that put a shortcut onto your desktop.  It worked like the IE “send shortcut to desktop” command.  I have not found a similar Firefox substitute.  If anyone knows of a good substitute, please reply!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

Thank you very much Brian. I would have expected a somewhat friendlier way for us blind people, as I have found with chrome, but not with Firefox so far.

                                             Take care,

                                             Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

The "Method One" documented here, https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-website-shortcut-on-desktop-in-windows-10/, will work to create a desktop shortcut that will open under your default web browser in Windows 10.

If Firefox is not your default web browser, and you want to use it as an exception case, things get slightly more complicated.  For the moment I will presume it is your default.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Beta 3 J2020.1910.37 Download Link + More

Shankar C
 

Hi, thanks for the beta link, just a question, any idea on the stable out?

On 10/17/19, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi All,

Below is the download link for J2020.1910.37 Beta 3 and what's new in this

release + a shortcut link to the Beta report form.

32 & 64 bit:

http://jaws2020.vfo.digital/2020.1910.37.400/5BD4B3B5-2C1F-4000-BAF0-CE4C8C310E5D/J2020.1910.37-any.exe

What's New:

The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 2 and
Public Beta 3. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are
included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.

Updated BraillePen Display Driver

Added an updated driver from Harpo in Poland to support their New BraillePen

14 Braille device in addition to the previously supported BraillePen 12T.
Now, all models are supported by this driver.

Other Changes
list of 5 items
• The new "Virtual Cursor On/Off based on Browser Tabs" option in Settings
Center is now turned on by default.
• JAWS now announces the currently selected menu in Google Docs when you
activate a menu or use LEFT and RIGHT ARROW to move between menus.
• JAWS now indicates list items markers in Google Docs. For example, if your

document contains a numbered list, you should hear "1, 2, 3," and so on as
you navigate the list.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS stopped responding when
moving over a link in a Word document and a Braille display was connected.
• In Adobe Reader, when moving between pages in a document , addressed a
customer reported issue where JAWS was skipping the first line of the new
page.
list end

Beta Report Form Link:

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Forms/JAWSBetaReport


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams!
Every man should marry. After all, happiness is not the only thing in life.




--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


moderated Accessibility of AWS Console

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Hi,

Does anyone have experience with managing databases via Amazon Web Services? My company is moving some of their databases into the cloud to be managed using AWS, and I am wondering about the accessibility of this environment with JAWS. I know there is a console that is used, but I also understande that there is a command line interface, which may be more useable.

If anyone has any experience with this, I would appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks,
Pam


moderated Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

Mario
 

oops, I made a mistake. sorry.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 3:36 PM
Subject: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest
jaws and win10
take a look at the save page We extension. I think this is the ticket.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 3:24 PM
Subject: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest
jaws and win10
There used to be a Firefox plugin called “Deskcut” that worked really
nicely.  However, it seems it is no longer available.  If someone knows
where to get it, please reply!  With Deskcut, a context menu choice was
added to the applications key (shift+F10) “save link” that put a
shortcut onto your desktop.  It worked like the IE “send shortcut to
desktop” command.  I have not found a similar Firefox substitute.  If
anyone knows of a good substitute, please reply!

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Panagiotis
Antonopoulos
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:29 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using
latest jaws and win10

Thank you very much Brian. I would have expected a somewhat friendlier
way for us blind people, as I have found with chrome, but not with
Firefox so far.

                                             Take care,

                                             Takis

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using
latest jaws and win10

The "Method One" documented here,
https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-website-shortcut-on-desktop-in-windows-10/,

will work to create a desktop shortcut that will open under your default
web browser in Windows 10.

If Firefox is not your default web browser, and you want to use it as an
exception case, things get slightly more complicated.  For the moment I
will presume it is your default.


moderated Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

Mario
 

take a look at the save page We extension. I think this is the ticket.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 3:24 PM
Subject: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest
jaws and win10
There used to be a Firefox plugin called “Deskcut” that worked really
nicely.  However, it seems it is no longer available.  If someone knows
where to get it, please reply!  With Deskcut, a context menu choice was
added to the applications key (shift+F10) “save link” that put a
shortcut onto your desktop.  It worked like the IE “send shortcut to
desktop” command.  I have not found a similar Firefox substitute.  If
anyone knows of a good substitute, please reply!

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Panagiotis
Antonopoulos
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:29 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using
latest jaws and win10

Thank you very much Brian. I would have expected a somewhat friendlier
way for us blind people, as I have found with chrome, but not with
Firefox so far.

                                             Take care,

                                             Takis

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using
latest jaws and win10

The "Method One" documented here,
https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-website-shortcut-on-desktop-in-windows-10/,

will work to create a desktop shortcut that will open under your default
web browser in Windows 10.

If Firefox is not your default web browser, and you want to use it as an
exception case, things get slightly more complicated.  For the moment I
will presume it is your default.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

Richard B. McDonald
 

There used to be a Firefox plugin called “Deskcut” that worked really nicely.  However, it seems it is no longer available.  If someone knows where to get it, please reply!  With Deskcut, a context menu choice was added to the applications key (shift+F10) “save link” that put a shortcut onto your desktop.  It worked like the IE “send shortcut to desktop” command.  I have not found a similar Firefox substitute.  If anyone knows of a good substitute, please reply!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

Thank you very much Brian. I would have expected a somewhat friendlier way for us blind people, as I have found with chrome, but not with Firefox so far.

                                             Take care,

                                             Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

The "Method One" documented here, https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-website-shortcut-on-desktop-in-windows-10/, will work to create a desktop shortcut that will open under your default web browser in Windows 10.

If Firefox is not your default web browser, and you want to use it as an exception case, things get slightly more complicated.  For the moment I will presume it is your default.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Thank you very much Brian. I would have expected a somewhat friendlier way for us blind people, as I have found with chrome, but not with Firefox so far.

                                             Take care,

                                             Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

The "Method One" documented here, https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-website-shortcut-on-desktop-in-windows-10/, will work to create a desktop shortcut that will open under your default web browser in Windows 10.

If Firefox is not your default web browser, and you want to use it as an exception case, things get slightly more complicated.  For the moment I will presume it is your default.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

 

The "Method One" documented here, https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-website-shortcut-on-desktop-in-windows-10/, will work to create a desktop shortcut that will open under your default web browser in Windows 10.

If Firefox is not your default web browser, and you want to use it as an exception case, things get slightly more complicated.  For the moment I will presume it is your default.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated creating a desktop shortcut of a site in Firefox using latest jaws and win10

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi all,
I resend this request, because I discovered the subject line had not been changed as I used a reply option earlier in the morning. With my apologies I pose the question again. Could someone please advise step by step as to how I can create desktop shortcuts of pages using latest Firefox, latest version of win10 and latest jaws? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
With sincere apologies again,
Takis


moderated Re: There has been no update to reported issues regarding pronunciation dictionary not saving new entries

Mario
 

once when I had a problem with a dictionary file, a tech said that it
could have become corrupted even if the limit of 2000 hasn't been reached.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
[mailto:ofiol=verizon.net@groups.io]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Monday, October 21, 2019, 8:54 PM
Subject: There has been no update to reported issues regarding
pronunciation dictionary not saving new entries
At 01:33 PM 10/21/2019, Adrian Spratt wrote:
>This hasn't happened to me, but I dimly recall reading that each JAWS
>dictionary has a memory limit. It's something I keep in mind as I
>choose which words to fix. I could be wrong. If I'm right, my solution
>is hardly ideal. Also, if I'm right, I wonder if the limit is
>dependent to a degree on the computer capacity of our systems.
The memory is 2000 entries, but I only have 1100. Besides, that doesn't
explain why JAWS has no problem adding entries to a dictionary
containing the same entries, but using a different filename.

Orlando Enrique Fiol




.


moderated There has been no update to reported issues regarding pronunciation dictionary not saving new entries

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi all,
Could someone please give me step by step instructions for creating a
desktop icon of a site on firefox, using latest jaws and firefox? Although I
find it easy enough on chrome, I have not found a way to do this with
firerfox.
Any h elp greatly appreciated.
Takis


moderated Re: There has been no update to reported issues regarding pronunciation dictionary not saving new entries

Michael Munn
 

I only have 900 entries in my JDF files. that is good to know about this regard.
Best regardds
Micael Munn 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

www.nfbv.org

Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Maryland 

www.nfbmd.org 

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu

Students of Hadley Institute of the Blind 



On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:54 PM Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io <ofiol=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
At 01:33 PM 10/21/2019, Adrian Spratt wrote:
 >This hasn't happened to me, but I dimly recall reading that each JAWS
 >dictionary has a memory limit. It's something I keep in mind as I
 >choose which words to fix. I could be wrong. If I'm right, my solution
 >is hardly ideal. Also, if I'm right, I wonder if the limit is
 >dependent to a degree on the computer capacity of our systems.
The memory is 2000 entries, but I only have 1100. Besides, that
doesn't explain why JAWS has no problem adding entries to a
dictionary containing the same entries, but using a different filename.

Orlando Enrique Fiol





moderated Re: There has been no update to reported issues regarding pronunciation dictionary not saving new entries

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 01:33 PM 10/21/2019, Adrian Spratt wrote:
This hasn't happened to me, but I dimly recall reading that each JAWS
dictionary has a memory limit. It's something I keep in mind as I
choose which words to fix. I could be wrong. If I'm right, my solution
is hardly ideal. Also, if I'm right, I wonder if the limit is
dependent to a degree on the computer capacity of our systems.
The memory is 2000 entries, but I only have 1100. Besides, that doesn't explain why JAWS has no problem adding entries to a dictionary containing the same entries, but using a different filename.

Orlando Enrique Fiol


moderated Re: Identifying highlighted text on a web site

Ann Byrne
 

The skim reading tool will locate/read colors, summarizing the areas where they are used. There is material on using the skim reading tool in the JAWS training documents under help.

Alternatively as was suggested already, sound scheme would work. The skim reading tool would be more effective, though.

Good luck!

Ann


moderated Re: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

Adrian Spratt
 

It would be represented as schwa. In other words, rather than codes, the JAWS dictionary relies on phonemes. So the onomatopoeic way you spelled that sound is the way JAWS would process it.

I hope I’ve correctly understood your question.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

 

the code "ax" stands for a schwa sound in Microsoft SAPI. How would that be represented in JAWS?

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 10:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

Annabelle,

 

You ask two separate questions. In the first, you inquire about the parameters, or controls, we can use in the JAWS dictionary to tell JAWS where to place emphasis. To my knowledge, Vispero has not provided JAWS users with such tools. Surely they have them, considering how well JAWS pronounces many words that go against convention, but we don’t have access to them. There’s a workaround that I’ll get to.

 

Your second question refers to the problem of a spelling that is pronounced differently in different contexts. Again, Vispero must have a way of making this happen, considering how JAWS handles a word like “read,” but they haven’t shared it with us. At any rate, to my knowledge they haven’t.

 

The workaround is typically the spacebar and the use of uppercase letters in the “replacement word” field. Taking your “progress” example, if you want the second syllable emphasized, either put a space before the “g” or capitalize that “G.” In general, the JAWS dictionary involves a degree of trial and error enhanced by experience. For example, I’ve found that doubling the consonant at the beginning of some words can bring about a desired effect, but not always.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

Out of curiosity, does anybody know if there's a parameter you can enter within Dictionary Manager, or somewhere within JAWS, to denote the accurate pronunciation of stressed versus unstressed syllables in a given word? I know in the Microsoft SAPI's speech markup language, there are parameters for typing pronunciations of Primary Stress syllables (1) and Secondary Stress syllables (2), as well as syllabic markers (-), and that each letter or letter combination is separated by a space. For example, if there are two pronunciations of a word, like "Progress". "p r ax - g r eh s 1" or "p r aa 1 - g r eh s". How would I simulate this with JAWS?


moderated Re: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

the code "ax" stands for a schwa sound in Microsoft SAPI. How would that be represented in JAWS?



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 10:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

Annabelle,

 

You ask two separate questions. In the first, you inquire about the parameters, or controls, we can use in the JAWS dictionary to tell JAWS where to place emphasis. To my knowledge, Vispero has not provided JAWS users with such tools. Surely they have them, considering how well JAWS pronounces many words that go against convention, but we don’t have access to them. There’s a workaround that I’ll get to.

 

Your second question refers to the problem of a spelling that is pronounced differently in different contexts. Again, Vispero must have a way of making this happen, considering how JAWS handles a word like “read,” but they haven’t shared it with us. At any rate, to my knowledge they haven’t.

 

The workaround is typically the spacebar and the use of uppercase letters in the “replacement word” field. Taking your “progress” example, if you want the second syllable emphasized, either put a space before the “g” or capitalize that “G.” In general, the JAWS dictionary involves a degree of trial and error enhanced by experience. For example, I’ve found that doubling the consonant at the beginning of some words can bring about a desired effect, but not always.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

Out of curiosity, does anybody know if there's a parameter you can enter within Dictionary Manager, or somewhere within JAWS, to denote the accurate pronunciation of stressed versus unstressed syllables in a given word? I know in the Microsoft SAPI's speech markup language, there are parameters for typing pronunciations of Primary Stress syllables (1) and Secondary Stress syllables (2), as well as syllabic markers (-), and that each letter or letter combination is separated by a space. For example, if there are two pronunciations of a word, like "Progress". "p r ax - g r eh s 1" or "p r aa 1 - g r eh s". How would I simulate this with JAWS?


moderated Re: There has been no update to reported issues regarding pronunciation dictionary not saving new entries

Adrian Spratt
 

Orlando,

This hasn't happened to me, but I dimly recall reading that each JAWS dictionary has a memory limit. It's something I keep in mind as I choose which words to fix. I could be wrong. If I'm right, my solution is hardly ideal. Also, if I'm right, I wonder if the limit is dependent to a degree on the computer capacity of our systems.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: There has been no update to reported issues regarding pronunciation dictionary not saving new entries

Hi all. Ever since 2020 beta 1, I have been unable to add new entries to Default.jdf, although I can add new entries to another dictionary with the default entries copied into it. Vispero tech support claims that they cannot duplicate this problem. But there's nothing so special about both my machines' configurations that would preclude saving dictionary entries, especially since entries can be saved to another file. The problem is that if I want those entries to apply globally, I must use Default.jdf. Is this happening to anyone else?

Orlando Enrique Fiol


moderated Re: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

Adrian Spratt
 

Annabelle,

 

You ask two separate questions. In the first, you inquire about the parameters, or controls, we can use in the JAWS dictionary to tell JAWS where to place emphasis. To my knowledge, Vispero has not provided JAWS users with such tools. Surely they have them, considering how well JAWS pronounces many words that go against convention, but we don’t have access to them. There’s a workaround that I’ll get to.

 

Your second question refers to the problem of a spelling that is pronounced differently in different contexts. Again, Vispero must have a way of making this happen, considering how JAWS handles a word like “read,” but they haven’t shared it with us. At any rate, to my knowledge they haven’t.

 

The workaround is typically the spacebar and the use of uppercase letters in the “replacement word” field. Taking your “progress” example, if you want the second syllable emphasized, either put a space before the “g” or capitalize that “G.” In general, the JAWS dictionary involves a degree of trial and error enhanced by experience. For example, I’ve found that doubling the consonant at the beginning of some words can bring about a desired effect, but not always.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Parameter For Pronunciations Of Syllables

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

Out of curiosity, does anybody know if there's a parameter you can enter within Dictionary Manager, or somewhere within JAWS, to denote the accurate pronunciation of stressed versus unstressed syllables in a given word? I know in the Microsoft SAPI's speech markup language, there are parameters for typing pronunciations of Primary Stress syllables (1) and Secondary Stress syllables (2), as well as syllabic markers (-), and that each letter or letter combination is separated by a space. For example, if there are two pronunciations of a word, like "Progress". "p r ax - g r eh s 1" or "p r aa 1 - g r eh s". How would I simulate this with JAWS?