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moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

CJ &AA MAY
 

I trained as a secretary back in the late 1960’s when you had quarto paper (which I think was 40 lines to a sheet) and fullscap, which, and I may be wrong here, was 60 lines to a sheet. This topic has made me realise that it is a long time since I’ve seen fullscap paper and the paper we buy for our printer is certainly quarto.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 17 September 2019 17:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Glad to hear it Marty.  It’s one of the first things I adjust when I get a new copy of Office loaded.  The other thing I typically adjust is the default margins, as the default right and left margins set at 1.25 inches seems too wide to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Robin,  That did the trick.  Thanks.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

  •  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated braille display going to sleep during windows login

Michelle's Home Emails
 

hi list

MY friend who is Deafblind is having problems where her braille display goes to sleep too quickly during login. Any way how to fix this so that it give a longer time to read information? Jays 2019 pro windows vers 10


Kind regards
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moderated Re: Options dialog boxes in Office 365

Stephen Bennett
 

Hi there
You can sometimes get around this by pressing tab and then shift tab, sometimes this stops the reading of the group header and just reads the control you are interested in. In my experience, NVDA very rarely has this issue.
SB

On 17/09/2019, at 4:25 AM, Dean Martineau <topdot@...> wrote:

All I know to do about this is to learn the alt+ key shortcut for any options you plan to change often, then you can probably hit that key once you’ve tabbed into the page for that category. To my knowledge, no other screen reader will help, it’s just how the Options pages are constructed now.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Options dialog boxes in Office 365

 

I switched to Office 365 and also to JAWS sometime around the beginning of 2018.  Before that I was a Window Eyes user.  I have noticed something about how JAWS reads the choices in the Options dialog box for all Office products that I find challenging.  I’m not sure if this started when I started using one of these products or with an update to one of them.  I’d like to know if others have found a way to change this behavior or if others agree that it is challenging and warrants a change request to Freedom Scientific.  Here’s the issue:

 

Use Alt F, then T to open the Options dialog box.  Arrow up and down to select a  panel of options.  From here, we tab through all the choices for that group of options.  Microsoft has these choices on each panel arranged in groups with headings.  As I tab, JAWS is reading the heading before each option.  In some cases the heading is long, so I have to wait to hear the whole heading before I know which option I’m on.   Some panels, like the mail options panel in Outlook have a really long list of choices, so it’s a really tedious process to get to the option I want to change if ti’s far down in the list.  This used to not be the case, but I don’t’ recall when I noticed the change.

 

What are other’s opinions of this behavior? 

Robin

Windows 10, Office 365, JAWS 2019



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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Certain settings in your Outlook configuration may cause crashes and this is likely due to a conflict with JAWS and that particular setting.  For example, if reading pane is on in e-mail or certain groupings in Contacts can cause issues with JAWS andmay increase crashes.  Just some things to check. 

 

Thanks,

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

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moderated Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

David Bailes
 

Hi Lorel and Soronel,
are the notifications which imply that you can take some action, and which you've not able to execute that action coming from any particular apps or parts of Windows. If so, can you give any examples so that I can check them out?

David.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:34 AM, Loreal Lavigna wrote:

I’ve noticed some of the same to be honest with you.  I’m still reading and trying to figure things out, so if I happen to come across anything I’ll certainly pass it along!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

 

The one I have problems with is actually triggering items in Action

Center. I have reason to belive the at least some of the labels are

clickable but enter activates the clear list button instead.

 

On 9/17/19, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:

> Thanks I really appreciate it!  I’m relearning things with Windows 10 since

> I haven’t used it in about 18months, not since I was working for a company

> who used it exclusively.  I’ve been a Windows 7 PC for most of my

> personal/professional use from 2013 through 2019, until I wound up having to

> upgrade to Windows 10 as Windows 7 is being phased out and completely

> unsupported as of January 2020.

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:22 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

> To access the Action area press windows key plus A.

> To access the system tray/ notification area press Windows plus B.

> To expand the notification area  press space on the notification cheveron

> button after pressing windows B.

> David Griffith

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

> 10

> From: Loreal Lavigna <mailto:loreallavigna@...>

> Sent: 17 September 2019 05:17

> To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

> Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

> Wondering if there are any shortcuts in order using a windows 10 laptop?  I

> have all updates installed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

> 10

>

 

 

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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Sorry, and also the version of Windows 10, you can open the search field (Windows Key) or the run command and type WinVer, you can then review the information with the Jaws cursor or virtualize it so you can easily copy the full version/built number and paste it in your email.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

It would, as usual, greatly help if you could say if you use Outlook via an Office 365 subscription or have the retail version and, if the retail version which one it is, e.g. Outlook 2013, 2016 etc.

Also, what version of Jaws do you use?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Van Lant, Robin
 

A couple months ago My Outlook 365 here at work was crashing at odd times, but it seems to have fixed itself with some update I recently installed to Office.  I haven’t updated JAWS since April or May, so it has to be the Outlook update that fixed the problem.    The most annoying crash was while spell checking. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Richard Turner
 

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Loreal Lavigna
 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

David Griffith
 

Try bringing up the context menu with the application key on each action.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: 18 September 2019 09:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

 

The one I have problems with is actually triggering items in Action

Center. I have reason to belive the at least some of the labels are

clickable but enter activates the clear list button instead.

 

On 9/17/19, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:

> Thanks I really appreciate it!  I’m relearning things with Windows 10 since

> I haven’t used it in about 18months, not since I was working for a company

> who used it exclusively.  I’ve been a Windows 7 PC for most of my

> personal/professional use from 2013 through 2019, until I wound up having to

> upgrade to Windows 10 as Windows 7 is being phased out and completely

> unsupported as of January 2020.

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:22 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

> To access the Action area press windows key plus A.

> To access the system tray/ notification area press Windows plus B.

> To expand the notification area  press space on the notification cheveron

> button after pressing windows B.

> David Griffith

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

> 10

> From: Loreal Lavigna <mailto:loreallavigna@...>

> Sent: 17 September 2019 05:17

> To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

> Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

> Wondering if there are any shortcuts in order using a windows 10 laptop?  I

> have all updates installed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

> 10

>

 

 

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moderated Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

Loreal Lavigna
 

I’ve noticed some of the same to be honest with you.  I’m still reading and trying to figure things out, so if I happen to come across anything I’ll certainly pass it along!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

 

The one I have problems with is actually triggering items in Action

Center. I have reason to belive the at least some of the labels are

clickable but enter activates the clear list button instead.

 

On 9/17/19, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:

> Thanks I really appreciate it!  I’m relearning things with Windows 10 since

> I haven’t used it in about 18months, not since I was working for a company

> who used it exclusively.  I’ve been a Windows 7 PC for most of my

> personal/professional use from 2013 through 2019, until I wound up having to

> upgrade to Windows 10 as Windows 7 is being phased out and completely

> unsupported as of January 2020.

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:22 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

> To access the Action area press windows key plus A.

> To access the system tray/ notification area press Windows plus B.

> To expand the notification area  press space on the notification cheveron

> button after pressing windows B.

> David Griffith

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

> 10

> From: Loreal Lavigna <mailto:loreallavigna@...>

> Sent: 17 September 2019 05:17

> To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

> Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

> Wondering if there are any shortcuts in order using a windows 10 laptop?  I

> have all updates installed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

> 10

>

 

 

--

Soronel Haetir

soronel.haetir@...

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

Soronel Haetir
 

The one I have problems with is actually triggering items in Action
Center. I have reason to belive the at least some of the labels are
clickable but enter activates the clear list button instead.

On 9/17/19, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks I really appreciate it! I’m relearning things with Windows 10 since
I haven’t used it in about 18months, not since I was working for a company
who used it exclusively. I’ve been a Windows 7 PC for most of my
personal/professional use from 2013 through 2019, until I wound up having to
upgrade to Windows 10 as Windows 7 is being phased out and completely
unsupported as of January 2020.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts



To access the Action area press windows key plus A.

To access the system tray/ notification area press Windows plus B.

To expand the notification area press space on the notification cheveron
button after pressing windows B.

David Griffith



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10



From: Loreal Lavigna <mailto:loreallavigna@gmail.com>
Sent: 17 September 2019 05:17
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts



Wondering if there are any shortcuts in order using a windows 10 laptop? I
have all updates installed. Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10










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soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: Laptop updating

Glenn / Lenny
 

Maybe they don't have any of the 8GB available in that type.
Or if you only want 16GB, just order 4 of the 4GB ones.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating


nope, the processor can support up to 32 GB and the motherboard has 4
slots.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:44 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
It could be that 8GB is the computer's capacity.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating


when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial. You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer. This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it. I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work. The
wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

*Subject:*Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my
question...

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
this more than I should attempt?

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
of Jaws 2019.

Thanks for all comments,

Rick











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moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mario
 

nope, the processor can support up to 32 GB and the motherboard has 4 slots.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:44 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
It could be that 8GB is the computer's capacity.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating


when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial. You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer. This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it. I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

    You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

    Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
    may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work. The
    wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
    that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
    touching the chassis.

    Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
    is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

    The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
    cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

    HTH.

    You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
    can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

    HTH.

    Glenn

    ----- Original Message -----

    *From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>

    *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

    *Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

    *Subject:*Laptop updating

    Good afternoon all,

    With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
    laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
    although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
    turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
    in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my
question...

    When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
    7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
    a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
    I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
    built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
    this more than I should attempt?

    Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
    from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
    of Jaws 2019.

    Thanks for all comments,

    Rick











.


moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mike B.
 


Hi Mario,
 
I've never run into the problem you're pointing out, but I believe the website has a more options selection also.  The best way to find out is to experiment by running a scan to see what results you come up with.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

It could be that 8GB is the computer's capacity.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating


> when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
> capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
> capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
> modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
> replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
> Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
> Subject: Laptop updating
> As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial. You can go to,
> www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
> and run a Crucial scan of your computer. This scan will tell you what
> your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
> have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
> For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
> Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it. I'm sure
> there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.
>
> Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
> I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
> that somebody screwed up.
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Laptop updating
>
> Thank you.
>
> I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?
>
> *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
> Lenny
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: Laptop updating
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.
>
> Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
> laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.
>
> It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
> and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.
>
> The RAM cover is usually smaller
>
> The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
> stick or sticks.
>
>     You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.
>
>     Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
>     may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work. The
>     wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
>     that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
>     touching the chassis.
>
>     Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
>     is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.
>
>     The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
>     cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.
>
>     HTH.
>
>     You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
>     can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.
>
>     HTH.
>
>     Glenn
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     *From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>
>
>     *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
>     *Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM
>
>     *Subject:*Laptop updating
>
>     Good afternoon all,
>
>     With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
>     laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
>     although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
>     turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
>     in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my
> question...
>
>     When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
>     7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
>     a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
>     I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
>     built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
>     this more than I should attempt?
>
>     Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
>     from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
>     of Jaws 2019.
>
>     Thanks for all comments,
>
>     Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




moderated Re: Laptop updating

Glenn / Lenny
 

It could be that 8GB is the computer's capacity.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating


when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial. You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer. This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it. I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work. The
wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

*Subject:*Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my
question...

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
this more than I should attempt?

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
of Jaws 2019.

Thanks for all comments,

Rick






moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mario
 

when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial.  You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer.  This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it.  I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The
wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

*Subject:*Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
this more than I should attempt?

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
of Jaws 2019.

Thanks for all comments,

Rick


moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mario
 

Samsung makes and tests their own SSD', so the quality is there.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial.  You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer.  This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it.  I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The
wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@neo.rr.com>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

*Subject:*Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
this more than I should attempt?

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
of Jaws 2019.

Thanks for all comments,

Rick

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