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moderated Re: links on web pages

mike mcglashon
 

Hey guys:
I have experienced this phenomenon in law school with some websites;
The thing seems to be that the websites were designed in such a way that they do not expect nor allow keyboard input,
They are only looking for mouse clicks
I know this because I had sighted person use keyboard with no jaws on it, and still no dice with keyboard interaction;
But yet the mouse worked just fine.


Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Couple things,
Try listing links and form fields, with F7 and if that does not work, use F5.
If neither of those work, try pass-key-through with Insert + #3 (above the E key).
After this is pressed, you can try space bar or enter.
You only get one pass-through with each action.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:51 AM
Subject: links on web pages


Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Re: Question about JAWS find.

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Unless you have changed things in the Quick Key Manager, L takes you to the next list, not link.  U takes you to the next unvisited link, and you can edit the list in the Quick Key Manager to allow for a keystroke to activate Any Link, which is not active by default.  All that is discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide available from https://www.techforblind.us.  When forms mode is active, those letters are written into the form, they cannot serve as navigation quick keys then.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS find.

 

Hi, everybody.

 

Does anybody know if JAWS is in forms mode when the JAWS find feature is used?

 

JAWS sort of stumbles over edit boxes and other controls when the Tab key is the links hot key, so I tried using the l and shift+l keys for move to next and prior links, with weird results. Rather than allowing the l key to be used to type the l character, JAWS focus jumped out of the search edit box to who knows where, because nothing in the find dialog uses the l as a shortcut. Odder still is that when the l key default was in place, there was no problem.

 

I'd appreciate any insights. Still trying to figure out what's under the hood, so to speak.

Lou N.
moderated Re: Question about JAWS find.

Mario
 

I don't think so, unless forms mode is set to automatic? maybe?

-------- Original Message --------
From: fenderwal@sbcglobal.net
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 12:05 PM
Subject: Question about JAWS find.
Hi, everybody.
Does anybody know if JAWS is in forms mode when the JAWS find feature is
used?
JAWS sort of stumbles over edit boxes and other controls when the Tab
key is the links hot key, so I tried using the l and shift+l keys for
move to next and prior links, with weird results. Rather than allowing
the l key to be used to type the l character, JAWS focus jumped out of
the search edit box to who knows where, because nothing in the find
dialog uses the l as a shortcut. Odder still is that when the l key
default was in place, there was no problem.
I'd appreciate any insights. Still trying to figure out what's under the
hood, so to speak.
Lou N.
moderated Re: links on web pages

Glenn / Lenny
 

Couple things,
Try listing links and form fields, with F7 and if that does not work, use F5.
If neither of those work, try pass-key-through with Insert + #3 (above the E key).
After this is pressed, you can try space bar or enter.
You only get one pass-through with each action.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:51 AM
Subject: links on web pages


Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Re: links on web pages

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Try ctrl+JAWSKey+Enter in case this is an OnMouseOver.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Re: Using calculator

Glenn / Lenny
 

It can also be switched to scientific functionality.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Using calculator

Hi

 

I am assuming you are referring to the Windows calculator.  If not, disregard my message.

 

Once the calculator is open and you want to enter your numbers, I usually use the numbers above the letters, but I would assume you could use the num pad.  Anyhow the Plus is the plus on the top row.  The minus is the dash on the top row.  Multiply is the * above the 8 and divide is the forward slash at the bottom row.  Delete clears the field.  Enter acts as the equals.  You can perform with multiple numbers like 1 + 3+8 etc.  anytime you want to know what is the field information use the JAWS read current line hot key.

 

This works for both Windows 7 and 10.

 

I have never tried to go in more depth than this, so there could be more.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using calculator

 

Hi list,

 

I would appreciate if you could give me some basic instructions how to use calculator. I am using JAWS 2018 latest version.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 
moderated Re: links on web pages

John Doering
 

Rick,
I believe in his initial post he said he could not share the web site.

Regards,



John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Re: links on web pages

John Doering
 

Try this one...
Place your PC cursor on the link. Then use the move JAWS cursor to PC cursor key stroke. JAWS key lower left corner of num pad and upper right corner of num pad.
Then hit the num pad / key as a left mouse click.
See if that works.

HTH,



John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws.  I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. 
Hitting enter on the link does nothing.  This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try.  Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Re: links on web pages

Mario
 

in addition to Bill's suggestion, when on a link, press the application
key or shift+f10. there might be an action to open in a new tab or in a
new window. then press enter on which one you want. this works if the
website has been constructed in a certain way. I say this because it
doesn't apply all the time. I don't have the foggiest idea why.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 11:57 AM
Subject: links on web pages
Try JAWS Key plus F7 to open the links list.
Then find the link you wish to open in the links list, and TAB to
Activate Link.
Once you reach Activate Link, try using Space Bar or ENTER.


Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: links on web pages

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that
will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter
on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share
for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?











.
moderated Re: links on web pages

Rick Mladek
 

Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Re: links on web pages

Don H
 

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws.  I am coming up against links that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.  Hitting enter on the link does nothing.  This is on a web page that I can not share for you to try.  Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Question about JAWS find.

fenderwal@...
 

Hi, everybody.
 
Does anybody know if JAWS is in forms mode when the JAWS find feature is used?
 
JAWS sort of stumbles over edit boxes and other controls when the Tab key is the links hot key, so I tried using the l and shift+l keys for move to next and prior links, with weird results. Rather than allowing the l key to be used to type the l character, JAWS focus jumped out of the search edit box to who knows where, because nothing in the find dialog uses the l as a shortcut. Odder still is that when the l key default was in place, there was no problem.
 
I'd appreciate any insights. Still trying to figure out what's under the hood, so to speak.
Lou N.
moderated Re: links on web pages

Jschliff@...
 

Bill,

I am not sure what you mean by tap the link to activate the link!

Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Try JAWS Key plus F7 to open the links list.
Then find the link you wish to open in the links list, and TAB to Activate Link.
Once you reach Activate Link, try using Space Bar or ENTER.


Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: links on web pages

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Re: links on web pages

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Try JAWS Key plus F7 to open the links list.
Then find the link you wish to open in the links list, and TAB to Activate Link.
Once you reach Activate Link, try using Space Bar or ENTER.


Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: links on web pages

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that
will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter
on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share
for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated links on web pages

Don H
 

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?
moderated Re: Using calculator

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

Hi

 

I am assuming you are referring to the Windows calculator.  If not, disregard my message.

 

Once the calculator is open and you want to enter your numbers, I usually use the numbers above the letters, but I would assume you could use the num pad.  Anyhow the Plus is the plus on the top row.  The minus is the dash on the top row.  Multiply is the * above the 8 and divide is the forward slash at the bottom row.  Delete clears the field.  Enter acts as the equals.  You can perform with multiple numbers like 1 + 3+8 etc.  anytime you want to know what is the field information use the JAWS read current line hot key.

 

This works for both Windows 7 and 10.

 

I have never tried to go in more depth than this, so there could be more.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using calculator

 

Hi list,

 

I would appreciate if you could give me some basic instructions how to use calculator. I am using JAWS 2018 latest version.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 
moderated Re: Problems with Outlook 365

Cohn, Jonathan
 

A lot of my Outlook hangs got resolved in the build that came out a few weeks ago. Also, I have heard some chatter about versions of Office from a few months back havig issues that are resolved in the newer versions. If you are not on the "monthly" channel of Office updates, you might want to consider being on it.  In either case, FS Support should be able to quickly verify if they know of issues with either your JAWS or Office versions.your version number is something like 2019.190
moderated Speech at Windows log-in screen

Vic Beckley
 

Is there any way to change the synthesizer that speaks on the Windows 10 log-in screen with JAWS 2019?

 

 

Vic

 
moderated Re: Odd Issue: Characters In a Document Not Consistently Speaking When Navigating in Word 365

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hello.

I finally called FS technical support about this issue. I was told that Microsoft was aware of the problem with character or word navigation failing to work reliably and it was they who were working on the fix. This seems to confirm my suspicion that the problems I and others were noticing may have been caused by an update to Office 365. This morning I noticed that updates to Office were available. I downloaded and installed the updates and, so far, the issue seems to have been fixed but I will continue to monitor it to see if it really has been fixed. To check for updates, open an Office application such as Word and do the following.


1. Press Alt+F for the file menu or, as it's officially called, the backstage view.

2. Press D for the Account tab.

3. Press R for Updates.

 4. Press U to check for updates.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 9/7/2019 5:19 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. Regarding my previous message the problem with Word navigation seems to have fixed itself, which I am finding just as perplexing as the original problem. I did not alter any JAWS settings. I simply went into another program to see if the same issue occurred, the program being LibreOffice Writer. When navigating in a Writer document the cursor navigation behaved normally, consistently speaking each character as I pressed right arrow. When I closed Writer and opened Word the problem, at least for now, has magically fixed itself. I had, by the way, closed and reopened Word several times and this did not fix the problem. While I'm grateful that the issue seems to be fixed I'd still welcome any input in case it resurfaces as I'd like to understand what happened to break the navigation and what happened to correct it.

The one thing that just occurred to me is that I closed JAWS to see if the issue occurs with NVDA, which it did not. I suppose it's possible that the act of shutting down and restarting JAWS is likely what may have fixed the issue but I'd still like more information if any of you have any insights.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/7/2019 3:58 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello.

I am recently encountering a perplexing problem which I am noticing on two different computers.

Both machines are running Windows 10, build 1903, with the latest set of updates for both Windows as well as Office 365.

When I navigate in a Word 365 document using left arrow or right arrow to move character by character I often hear silence instead of the character next to the caret. As an example, if I type

Now is the time for all good men

and begin navigating with right arrow from the beginning of the line I might hear the O in "now" but when I move to the W the character does not speak. It doesn't say "space" or something else, it is just silent. Yet when I press numpad-5 to read the current character it usually will speak the character.

Enhanced editing support is definitely enabled in the JAWS settings for Word. I wondered if this was a cursor blink rate issue. I notice that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is set to 53, which it claims is the fastest setting. Concurrently, the cursor blink rate in my Keyboard settings in Control Panel is set for 100 and, no matter what I try to change it to, it always goes back to 100 once I select OK. It seems that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is forcing the Windows cursor blink rate setting to conform to what JAWS wants, which I found absolutely mind-blowing. I first discovered this in Chrome when I was receiving inaccurate results when moving the cursor on a Web page I use at work but most other Web pages speak normally when moving the cursor. This all started today and I am at a total loss as to what is happening. I am open to ideas and suggestions from others who may have a clue as to what's going on as I clearly do not. I would really prefer to not have to do a JAWS repair but if doing so will absolutely fix the problem then I will do it.




--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
moderated Using calculator

Gezim Rexha
 

Hi list,

 

I would appreciate if you could give me some basic instructions how to use calculator. I am using JAWS 2018 latest version.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 
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