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moderated Re: jaws working with dictation software?

Michael Munn
 

Bryan Hartgen have a software called J Dictate that work pretty well with Jaws.



Check this out.
Best Regards 
Michael Munn Michael Mun

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
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Student  of: Hadley Institute of the Blind







On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 4:11 AM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

To add to what Dean has written you can also buy a program from Brian Hartgen called J-say. J-say and J-Dictate are both voice dictation programs that allow you to have an accessible interface with Dragon when using JAWS. The difference is that J-say not only allows for voice dictation but you can also completely control your computer, such as opening programs, navigating menus and documents, etc. J-say is great for someone needing total hands-free control of the computer. J-dictate, from what I understand, is just for dictation. It's ideal for people who can control the computer with their hands but who just may want to use their voice to enter text as opposed to, or in addition to, the keyboard.

I have not used either of these programs and so I can't offer any feedback from personal experience. However, I have used his Leasey program which is, essentially, an addon to the JAWS screen reader which provides additional functionality and features not already in JAWS. If J-say and J-dictate are of equal quality to Leasey then I can only conclude they are nothing short of amazing as that is how I feel about Leasey. His software is totally dependent on JAWS. This means that if you are not running JAWS or if you're using a different screen reader his software won't function.

www.hartgen.org


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/6/2019 9:27 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

There are several options for dictation depending on how much money you can spend. I haven't tried dictation that comes with office 365, so if somebody else has, I look forward to hearing the result. It might accomplish what you want.

Outside of that, generally, one needs a dictation application, one that is able to turn voice text into print, and some ability to access that applications interface with the screen reader, mainly for making corrections. Windows comes with a free, built-in, dictation program, Windows speech recognition, and  you can also buy various versions of Dragon. Windows speech recognition is generally regarded as being inferior to Dragon.

In terms of accessing these programs with a screenreader, A program called Dictation Bridge has been written. It gives access to Windows speech recognition and Dragon,  and it is free. The development of its interface with NVDA is more advanced, but it is also said to work with jaws. http://dictationbridge.com/

If you have a version of Dragon, and want to get the best quality screen reader interface, for simple dictation, you can buy J-Dictate from Hartgen Consultancy for work with JAWS.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of jredlichspeaks@...
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws working with dictation software?

 

Hi all,

I have lots of things in Braille that I’d like to put into word docs, pdf,  or even .txt docs.  Does anyone have any software they’d recommend?  I’d read the Braille files into the computer and save them somehow so they’d be accessible for cleaning up and saving in those document formats?

 

Has anyone tried dictating with the software that comes with office 365?  If so, how successful was it?

 

Thanks.

Judy

Helping people tell their story and find their highest potential

Encounter show host, Tuesdays 1:30 p.m. KSIV Radio AM/FM St. Louis, MO

Podcast: judyredlich.com/radio

Let’s connect! JudyRedlich.com | linkedin.com/in/judy-redlich

 


moderated just testing

michaeel's mail
 


moderated Re: Windows Live Mail spell checker

Marty Hutchings
 

My box for checking reply or forwarded text is unchecked, but it still goes through it anyway.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail spell checker
 
That is odd, in Outlook Express and Outlook, by default it ignores quoted text, that is, the stuff we are replying to.
But if someone goes into the spell settings in these programs, you could inadvertently turn it on, because as you tab through, the first part is what to check, and before  you know it, you are in the part  for what to ignore, and you could change that to the behavior that we typically don't want.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail spell checker
 
If you are asking if there is a setting to allow spell checker to ignore quoted material, then to my knowledge the answer is "no."

The first thing one should do in a compose window, if the bottom quoted material is not needed to retain context for the reply, is to delete it.  A CTRL+A followed by either the Delete key or backspace accomplishes this.   Then the only thing the spell checker has to check is what you've written.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Windows Live Mail spell checker

 

On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 02:52 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
That is odd, in Outlook Express and Outlook, by default it ignores quoted text, that is, the stuff we are replying to.
It is entirely possible I am succumbing to "misty, watercolor memories" here, as I haven't routinely touched WLM in quite a while.

It's still best practice to delete any quoted material that's not relevant to the new material, and in a lot of exchanges that means everything, as active participants know instantly where the reply belongs in a topic thread because they've been reading it all along.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Windows Live Mail spell checker

Feliciano G
 

Hi,

Not sure if this will work for Windows Live mail, but give it a shot.

Select the text you have typed. Then, run the spell check.

 

On Outlook, this will only check for grammatical errors for the selected text.

 

Feliciano

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows Live Mail spell checker

 

Is there a setting to get Spell Checker to only look at my message and not the whole thread?  I don't want to correct the entire universe, just what I wrote.


moderated Re: Windows Live Mail spell checker

Glenn / Lenny
 


That is odd, in Outlook Express and Outlook, by default it ignores quoted text, that is, the stuff we are replying to.
But if someone goes into the spell settings in these programs, you could inadvertently turn it on, because as you tab through, the first part is what to check, and before  you know it, you are in the part  for what to ignore, and you could change that to the behavior that we typically don't want.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail spell checker

If you are asking if there is a setting to allow spell checker to ignore quoted material, then to my knowledge the answer is "no."

The first thing one should do in a compose window, if the bottom quoted material is not needed to retain context for the reply, is to delete it.  A CTRL+A followed by either the Delete key or backspace accomplishes this.   Then the only thing the spell checker has to check is what you've written.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Windows Live Mail spell checker

 

If you are asking if there is a setting to allow spell checker to ignore quoted material, then to my knowledge the answer is "no."

The first thing one should do in a compose window, if the bottom quoted material is not needed to retain context for the reply, is to delete it.  A CTRL+A followed by either the Delete key or backspace accomplishes this.   Then the only thing the spell checker has to check is what you've written.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Windows Live Mail spell checker

Marty Hutchings
 

Is there a setting to get Spell Checker to only look at my message and not the whole thread?  I don't want to correct the entire universe, just what I wrote.


moderated Re: Odd Issue: Characters In a Document Not Consistently Speaking When Navigating in Word 365

Marty Hutchings
 

I have been experiencing a similar issue for a while now.  I am running Windows 7 and MS Word 2007 with JAWS 18 and things have been working beautifully until a couple of months ago.  When I type a date in Word such as October 23 and then read my document either by Say all or just line by line with the Down Arrow, JAWS will not say anything when I get to the line of text with the date in it.  If I am reading by Say All, JAWS will just stop at that line without reading it, no matter if there is text before the date in the line or after it.  I can read the line letter by letter.  This is just weird.
)PS.  I just read this email before sending it and JAWS read it perfectly.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: Odd Issue: Characters In a Document Not Consistently Speaking When Navigating in Word 365
 

Hello. Regarding my previous message the problem with Word navigation seems to have fixed itself, which I am finding just as perplexing as the original problem. I did not alter any JAWS settings. I simply went into another program to see if the same issue occurred, the program being LibreOffice Writer. When navigating in a Writer document the cursor navigation behaved normally, consistently speaking each character as I pressed right arrow. When I closed Writer and opened Word the problem, at least for now, has magically fixed itself. I had, by the way, closed and reopened Word several times and this did not fix the problem. While I'm grateful that the issue seems to be fixed I'd still welcome any input in case it resurfaces as I'd like to understand what happened to break the navigation and what happened to correct it.

The one thing that just occurred to me is that I closed JAWS to see if the issue occurs with NVDA, which it did not. I suppose it's possible that the act of shutting down and restarting JAWS is likely what may have fixed the issue but I'd still like more information if any of you have any insights.

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/7/2019 3:58 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello.

I am recently encountering a perplexing problem which I am noticing on two different computers.

Both machines are running Windows 10, build 1903, with the latest set of updates for both Windows as well as Office 365.

When I navigate in a Word 365 document using left arrow or right arrow to move character by character I often hear silence instead of the character next to the caret. As an example, if I type

Now is the time for all good men

and begin navigating with right arrow from the beginning of the line I might hear the O in "now" but when I move to the W the character does not speak. It doesn't say "space" or something else, it is just silent. Yet when I press numpad-5 to read the current character it usually will speak the character.

Enhanced editing support is definitely enabled in the JAWS settings for Word. I wondered if this was a cursor blink rate issue. I notice that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is set to 53, which it claims is the fastest setting. Concurrently, the cursor blink rate in my Keyboard settings in Control Panel is set for 100 and, no matter what I try to change it to, it always goes back to 100 once I select OK. It seems that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is forcing the Windows cursor blink rate setting to conform to what JAWS wants, which I found absolutely mind-blowing. I first discovered this in Chrome when I was receiving inaccurate results when moving the cursor on a Web page I use at work but most other Web pages speak normally when moving the cursor. This all started today and I am at a total loss as to what is happening. I am open to ideas and suggestions from others who may have a clue as to what's going on as I clearly do not. I would really prefer to not have to do a JAWS repair but if doing so will absolutely fix the problem then I will do it.

 

 

 

--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


moderated Re: Odd Issue: Characters In a Document Not Consistently Speaking When Navigating in Word 365

Leo
 

hmmm, I don't know what these people from Microsoft are doing anyway, supposedly, office 365 is the office version that receives accessibility updates promptly and constantly, and this was the main reason for me to have it, but for me office 2019 Pro Plus is working just fine, and I disabled  automatic updates just in case.

Best,
   Leo.
On 9/7/2019 5:43 AM, Cynthia Bruce wrote:

Interestingly, I was just wondering about the same issue. Very recently, probably after windows updates or Microsoft 365 updates, I can’t read word by word when I  use shift right arrow. It moves, but it does not speak them consistently.


On Sep 7, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Lev <literophilus@...> wrote:

Hello David,

well I can't really add anything to give you an idea why this happened, but I can tell you that this was happening to me for months using win 10, latest jaws, and word 365 although in my case the problem occurred when I moved through words using control plus left arrow or right arrow.

You were lucky, in my particular case, I got  this problem solved until a couple of weeks ago when I had enough time, and I decided to install office 2019 professional plus, I updated the office package, opened a document, and this vexing issue wasn't there anymore. Since I had the problem in two different computers, I repeated the same process in my other machine, and it worked. 😌


Best,
   Leo.
On 9/7/2019 3:19 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. Regarding my previous message the problem with Word navigation seems to have fixed itself, which I am finding just as perplexing as the original problem. I did not alter any JAWS settings. I simply went into another program to see if the same issue occurred, the program being LibreOffice Writer. When navigating in a Writer document the cursor navigation behaved normally, consistently speaking each character as I pressed right arrow. When I closed Writer and opened Word the problem, at least for now, has magically fixed itself. I had, by the way, closed and reopened Word several times and this did not fix the problem. While I'm grateful that the issue seems to be fixed I'd still welcome any input in case it resurfaces as I'd like to understand what happened to break the navigation and what happened to correct it.

The one thing that just occurred to me is that I closed JAWS to see if the issue occurs with NVDA, which it did not. I suppose it's possible that the act of shutting down and restarting JAWS is likely what may have fixed the issue but I'd still like more information if any of you have any insights.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/7/2019 3:58 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello.

I am recently encountering a perplexing problem which I am noticing on two different computers.

Both machines are running Windows 10, build 1903, with the latest set of updates for both Windows as well as Office 365.

When I navigate in a Word 365 document using left arrow or right arrow to move character by character I often hear silence instead of the character next to the caret. As an example, if I type

Now is the time for all good men

and begin navigating with right arrow from the beginning of the line I might hear the O in "now" but when I move to the W the character does not speak. It doesn't say "space" or something else, it is just silent. Yet when I press numpad-5 to read the current character it usually will speak the character.

Enhanced editing support is definitely enabled in the JAWS settings for Word. I wondered if this was a cursor blink rate issue. I notice that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is set to 53, which it claims is the fastest setting. Concurrently, the cursor blink rate in my Keyboard settings in Control Panel is set for 100 and, no matter what I try to change it to, it always goes back to 100 once I select OK. It seems that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is forcing the Windows cursor blink rate setting to conform to what JAWS wants, which I found absolutely mind-blowing. I first discovered this in Chrome when I was receiving inaccurate results when moving the cursor on a Web page I use at work but most other Web pages speak normally when moving the cursor. This all started today and I am at a total loss as to what is happening. I am open to ideas and suggestions from others who may have a clue as to what's going on as I clearly do not. I would really prefer to not have to do a JAWS repair but if doing so will absolutely fix the problem then I will do it.




--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


moderated Re: E-mail deletion question

David Pearson
 

Hello "netbat66"

By George, that worked! Tried to open message at first, but it wouldn't and received same sound/reply but Shift + delete "did the trick".

Thanks for the tip.

Most sincerely,



David S. Pearson

-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 11:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: E-mail deletion question

the message is corupted
you have to press shift delete instead.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 8:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: E-mail deletion question

Hello list:

I have an e-mail in my in box which I wish to delete, but when I press the
delete key,an aerror bell sounds, and Jaws states "that an unknown error
has occurred"leaving the message alone.

Using Dell desktop(Windows7) and latest Jaws using WLM

Most of the time I can get rid of an unwanted e-mail messageby simply
pressing the delete key, but occasionally, the above happens and the message
remains.

Any thoughts on why this may be happening?

Truly yours,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: Odd Issue: Characters In a Document Not Consistently Speaking When Navigating in Word 365

Cynthia Bruce
 

Interestingly, I was just wondering about the same issue. Very recently, probably after windows updates or Microsoft 365 updates, I can’t read word by word when I  use shift right arrow. It moves, but it does not speak them consistently.


On Sep 7, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Lev <literophilus@...> wrote:

Hello David,

well I can't really add anything to give you an idea why this happened, but I can tell you that this was happening to me for months using win 10, latest jaws, and word 365 although in my case the problem occurred when I moved through words using control plus left arrow or right arrow.

You were lucky, in my particular case, I got  this problem solved until a couple of weeks ago when I had enough time, and I decided to install office 2019 professional plus, I updated the office package, opened a document, and this vexing issue wasn't there anymore. Since I had the problem in two different computers, I repeated the same process in my other machine, and it worked. 😌


Best,
   Leo.
On 9/7/2019 3:19 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. Regarding my previous message the problem with Word navigation seems to have fixed itself, which I am finding just as perplexing as the original problem. I did not alter any JAWS settings. I simply went into another program to see if the same issue occurred, the program being LibreOffice Writer. When navigating in a Writer document the cursor navigation behaved normally, consistently speaking each character as I pressed right arrow. When I closed Writer and opened Word the problem, at least for now, has magically fixed itself. I had, by the way, closed and reopened Word several times and this did not fix the problem. While I'm grateful that the issue seems to be fixed I'd still welcome any input in case it resurfaces as I'd like to understand what happened to break the navigation and what happened to correct it.

The one thing that just occurred to me is that I closed JAWS to see if the issue occurs with NVDA, which it did not. I suppose it's possible that the act of shutting down and restarting JAWS is likely what may have fixed the issue but I'd still like more information if any of you have any insights.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/7/2019 3:58 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello.

I am recently encountering a perplexing problem which I am noticing on two different computers.

Both machines are running Windows 10, build 1903, with the latest set of updates for both Windows as well as Office 365.

When I navigate in a Word 365 document using left arrow or right arrow to move character by character I often hear silence instead of the character next to the caret. As an example, if I type

Now is the time for all good men

and begin navigating with right arrow from the beginning of the line I might hear the O in "now" but when I move to the W the character does not speak. It doesn't say "space" or something else, it is just silent. Yet when I press numpad-5 to read the current character it usually will speak the character.

Enhanced editing support is definitely enabled in the JAWS settings for Word. I wondered if this was a cursor blink rate issue. I notice that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is set to 53, which it claims is the fastest setting. Concurrently, the cursor blink rate in my Keyboard settings in Control Panel is set for 100 and, no matter what I try to change it to, it always goes back to 100 once I select OK. It seems that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is forcing the Windows cursor blink rate setting to conform to what JAWS wants, which I found absolutely mind-blowing. I first discovered this in Chrome when I was receiving inaccurate results when moving the cursor on a Web page I use at work but most other Web pages speak normally when moving the cursor. This all started today and I am at a total loss as to what is happening. I am open to ideas and suggestions from others who may have a clue as to what's going on as I clearly do not. I would really prefer to not have to do a JAWS repair but if doing so will absolutely fix the problem then I will do it.




--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


moderated Re: Odd Issue: Characters In a Document Not Consistently Speaking When Navigating in Word 365

Leo
 

Hello David,

well I can't really add anything to give you an idea why this happened, but I can tell you that this was happening to me for months using win 10, latest jaws, and word 365 although in my case the problem occurred when I moved through words using control plus left arrow or right arrow.

You were lucky, in my particular case, I got  this problem solved until a couple of weeks ago when I had enough time, and I decided to install office 2019 professional plus, I updated the office package, opened a document, and this vexing issue wasn't there anymore. Since I had the problem in two different computers, I repeated the same process in my other machine, and it worked. 😌


Best,
   Leo.
On 9/7/2019 3:19 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. Regarding my previous message the problem with Word navigation seems to have fixed itself, which I am finding just as perplexing as the original problem. I did not alter any JAWS settings. I simply went into another program to see if the same issue occurred, the program being LibreOffice Writer. When navigating in a Writer document the cursor navigation behaved normally, consistently speaking each character as I pressed right arrow. When I closed Writer and opened Word the problem, at least for now, has magically fixed itself. I had, by the way, closed and reopened Word several times and this did not fix the problem. While I'm grateful that the issue seems to be fixed I'd still welcome any input in case it resurfaces as I'd like to understand what happened to break the navigation and what happened to correct it.

The one thing that just occurred to me is that I closed JAWS to see if the issue occurs with NVDA, which it did not. I suppose it's possible that the act of shutting down and restarting JAWS is likely what may have fixed the issue but I'd still like more information if any of you have any insights.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/7/2019 3:58 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello.

I am recently encountering a perplexing problem which I am noticing on two different computers.

Both machines are running Windows 10, build 1903, with the latest set of updates for both Windows as well as Office 365.

When I navigate in a Word 365 document using left arrow or right arrow to move character by character I often hear silence instead of the character next to the caret. As an example, if I type

Now is the time for all good men

and begin navigating with right arrow from the beginning of the line I might hear the O in "now" but when I move to the W the character does not speak. It doesn't say "space" or something else, it is just silent. Yet when I press numpad-5 to read the current character it usually will speak the character.

Enhanced editing support is definitely enabled in the JAWS settings for Word. I wondered if this was a cursor blink rate issue. I notice that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is set to 53, which it claims is the fastest setting. Concurrently, the cursor blink rate in my Keyboard settings in Control Panel is set for 100 and, no matter what I try to change it to, it always goes back to 100 once I select OK. It seems that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is forcing the Windows cursor blink rate setting to conform to what JAWS wants, which I found absolutely mind-blowing. I first discovered this in Chrome when I was receiving inaccurate results when moving the cursor on a Web page I use at work but most other Web pages speak normally when moving the cursor. This all started today and I am at a total loss as to what is happening. I am open to ideas and suggestions from others who may have a clue as to what's going on as I clearly do not. I would really prefer to not have to do a JAWS repair but if doing so will absolutely fix the problem then I will do it.




--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


moderated Re: Odd Issue: Characters In a Document Not Consistently Speaking When Navigating in Word 365

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hello. Regarding my previous message the problem with Word navigation seems to have fixed itself, which I am finding just as perplexing as the original problem. I did not alter any JAWS settings. I simply went into another program to see if the same issue occurred, the program being LibreOffice Writer. When navigating in a Writer document the cursor navigation behaved normally, consistently speaking each character as I pressed right arrow. When I closed Writer and opened Word the problem, at least for now, has magically fixed itself. I had, by the way, closed and reopened Word several times and this did not fix the problem. While I'm grateful that the issue seems to be fixed I'd still welcome any input in case it resurfaces as I'd like to understand what happened to break the navigation and what happened to correct it.

The one thing that just occurred to me is that I closed JAWS to see if the issue occurs with NVDA, which it did not. I suppose it's possible that the act of shutting down and restarting JAWS is likely what may have fixed the issue but I'd still like more information if any of you have any insights.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 9/7/2019 3:58 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello.

I am recently encountering a perplexing problem which I am noticing on two different computers.

Both machines are running Windows 10, build 1903, with the latest set of updates for both Windows as well as Office 365.

When I navigate in a Word 365 document using left arrow or right arrow to move character by character I often hear silence instead of the character next to the caret. As an example, if I type

Now is the time for all good men

and begin navigating with right arrow from the beginning of the line I might hear the O in "now" but when I move to the W the character does not speak. It doesn't say "space" or something else, it is just silent. Yet when I press numpad-5 to read the current character it usually will speak the character.

Enhanced editing support is definitely enabled in the JAWS settings for Word. I wondered if this was a cursor blink rate issue. I notice that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is set to 53, which it claims is the fastest setting. Concurrently, the cursor blink rate in my Keyboard settings in Control Panel is set for 100 and, no matter what I try to change it to, it always goes back to 100 once I select OK. It seems that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is forcing the Windows cursor blink rate setting to conform to what JAWS wants, which I found absolutely mind-blowing. I first discovered this in Chrome when I was receiving inaccurate results when moving the cursor on a Web page I use at work but most other Web pages speak normally when moving the cursor. This all started today and I am at a total loss as to what is happening. I am open to ideas and suggestions from others who may have a clue as to what's going on as I clearly do not. I would really prefer to not have to do a JAWS repair but if doing so will absolutely fix the problem then I will do it.




--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


moderated Re: jaws working with dictation software?

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

To add to what Dean has written you can also buy a program from Brian Hartgen called J-say. J-say and J-Dictate are both voice dictation programs that allow you to have an accessible interface with Dragon when using JAWS. The difference is that J-say not only allows for voice dictation but you can also completely control your computer, such as opening programs, navigating menus and documents, etc. J-say is great for someone needing total hands-free control of the computer. J-dictate, from what I understand, is just for dictation. It's ideal for people who can control the computer with their hands but who just may want to use their voice to enter text as opposed to, or in addition to, the keyboard.

I have not used either of these programs and so I can't offer any feedback from personal experience. However, I have used his Leasey program which is, essentially, an addon to the JAWS screen reader which provides additional functionality and features not already in JAWS. If J-say and J-dictate are of equal quality to Leasey then I can only conclude they are nothing short of amazing as that is how I feel about Leasey. His software is totally dependent on JAWS. This means that if you are not running JAWS or if you're using a different screen reader his software won't function.

www.hartgen.org


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 9/6/2019 9:27 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

There are several options for dictation depending on how much money you can spend. I haven't tried dictation that comes with office 365, so if somebody else has, I look forward to hearing the result. It might accomplish what you want.

Outside of that, generally, one needs a dictation application, one that is able to turn voice text into print, and some ability to access that applications interface with the screen reader, mainly for making corrections. Windows comes with a free, built-in, dictation program, Windows speech recognition, and  you can also buy various versions of Dragon. Windows speech recognition is generally regarded as being inferior to Dragon.

In terms of accessing these programs with a screenreader, A program called Dictation Bridge has been written. It gives access to Windows speech recognition and Dragon,  and it is free. The development of its interface with NVDA is more advanced, but it is also said to work with jaws. http://dictationbridge.com/

If you have a version of Dragon, and want to get the best quality screen reader interface, for simple dictation, you can buy J-Dictate from Hartgen Consultancy for work with JAWS.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of jredlichspeaks@...
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws working with dictation software?

 

Hi all,

I have lots of things in Braille that I’d like to put into word docs, pdf,  or even .txt docs.  Does anyone have any software they’d recommend?  I’d read the Braille files into the computer and save them somehow so they’d be accessible for cleaning up and saving in those document formats?

 

Has anyone tried dictating with the software that comes with office 365?  If so, how successful was it?

 

Thanks.

Judy

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moderated Odd Issue: Characters In a Document Not Consistently Speaking When Navigating in Word 365

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hello.

I am recently encountering a perplexing problem which I am noticing on two different computers.

Both machines are running Windows 10, build 1903, with the latest set of updates for both Windows as well as Office 365.

When I navigate in a Word 365 document using left arrow or right arrow to move character by character I often hear silence instead of the character next to the caret. As an example, if I type

Now is the time for all good men

and begin navigating with right arrow from the beginning of the line I might hear the O in "now" but when I move to the W the character does not speak. It doesn't say "space" or something else, it is just silent. Yet when I press numpad-5 to read the current character it usually will speak the character.

Enhanced editing support is definitely enabled in the JAWS settings for Word. I wondered if this was a cursor blink rate issue. I notice that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is set to 53, which it claims is the fastest setting. Concurrently, the cursor blink rate in my Keyboard settings in Control Panel is set for 100 and, no matter what I try to change it to, it always goes back to 100 once I select OK. It seems that the JAWS cursor blink rate setting is forcing the Windows cursor blink rate setting to conform to what JAWS wants, which I found absolutely mind-blowing. I first discovered this in Chrome when I was receiving inaccurate results when moving the cursor on a Web page I use at work but most other Web pages speak normally when moving the cursor. This all started today and I am at a total loss as to what is happening. I am open to ideas and suggestions from others who may have a clue as to what's going on as I clearly do not. I would really prefer to not have to do a JAWS repair but if doing so will absolutely fix the problem then I will do it.




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David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


moderated Regarding JAWS and Office Products

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

There has been a thread on this list which, while it may have started out being about JAWS and its support for Access, has now morphed into the alleged benefits, and lack thereof, of using modern versions of JAWS with not so modern versions of Office. As my comments have nothing to do with Microsoft Access I felt it might be appropriate to post them in a new thread with a more relevant subject line.

A lot of people might prefer using pre-2007 versions of Office because it uses a traditional menu bar instead of the ribbon. If you prefer an old-school menu bar then may I suggest that you consider trying out LibreOffice. It contains, among other things, a word processor and a spreadsheet application with a reasonable amount of screen reader accessibility. Admittedly, modern versions of Office, particularly 365, along with modern versions of JAWS are going to give you the best screen reader experience. However, unlike Office 2000 or 2003 LibreOffice still receives regular updates from a dedicated community and it uses the traditional menu bar, similar to pre-2007 versions of Office. To be honest I prefer Microsoft Office because it's still the best choice for the finest level of accessibility, particularly with the latest build of JAWS. However, LibreOffice is responsive, modern, has a menu bar and can handle more file formats. Not to mention that a regular cadence for updates means it should be far more secure.


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David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


moderated Re: E-mail deletion question

Don Walls
 

David, sometimes when my computer has frozen or JAWS disappeared, I've had to shut down. When I turn the computer on again, sometimes emails which I've deleted from my In folder before the shutdown appear -- except they really aren't there. That's when you get an error message. If shift delete doesn't work, hit the enter key and space bar, then you should be able to delete the email and can then delete it normally if you wish from your deleted folder.

I hope this helps.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 8:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: E-mail deletion question

Hello list:

I have an e-mail in my in box which I wish to delete, but when I press the
delete key,an aerror bell sounds, and Jaws states "that an unknown error
has occurred"leaving the message alone.

Using Dell desktop(Windows7) and latest Jaws using WLM

Most of the time I can get rid of an unwanted e-mail messageby simply
pressing the delete key, but occasionally, the above happens and the message
remains.

Any thoughts on why this may be happening?

Truly yours,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: When Are JAWS Webinars Archived?

Joseph Hudson
 

Rick, sometimes these recordings are edited before they're posted on the website, I would check at least Monday or Tuesday to see if it is posted.

On Sep 6, 2019, at 11:04 PM, Rick Miller <rm1263@outlook.com> wrote:

I was not able to take part in the webinar that took place yesterday dealing with Google Chrome because it happened while I was at work. I knew it would be archived, so I felt sure it would probably be available by tonight, but upon going to the Freedom Scientific training page where the archived webinars are I found, to my utter dismay, that it was not. I am new to Chrome, and I don’t want to wait for weeks on end until it is archived. So when will it be archived? I want to learn as much about JAWS and Chrome as possible, and I hope it won’t take forever to get it archived.



Rick Miller


moderated When Are JAWS Webinars Archived?

Rick Miller
 

I was not able to take part in the webinar that took place yesterday dealing with Google Chrome because it happened while I was at work.  I knew it would be archived, so I felt sure it would probably be available by tonight, but upon going to the Freedom Scientific training page where the archived webinars are I found, to my utter dismay, that it was not.  I am new to Chrome, and I don’t want to wait for weeks on end until it is archived.  So when will it be archived?  I want to learn as much about JAWS and Chrome as possible, and I hope it won’t take forever to get it archived.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

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