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moderated Re: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

You may get different opinions on your question.  For me, it was very tough to use it on my computer.  It was much easier on my IPhone.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 4:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

 

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart? 

 

Tim Ford

 


moderated Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart? 

 

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 04:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Then why is he bottom posting?
Most likely because he's using a webmail interfact that is behaving atypically (at least these days).  Gmail's web interface has placed you above the quoted material, which is initially not displayed unless you hit the triple dot button to make it do so) for as long as I can remember.

Until or unless we get an answer as to exactly what's being used this is all just random shots in the dark.  We need to know what webmail.
 
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moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Glenn / Lenny
 

Then why is he bottom posting?
I doubt that David is doing that on purpose.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


not true. in an email client, after invoking the action to reply
(usually pressing control+r), you should be placed at the top of the
body field where you can start typing your reply. there's no need to
press control+home first.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 3:16 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?
David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need
to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into,
first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the
edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set
to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control +
home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my
question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the
message?







.





moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

 

Which brings me back to my initial question:   What webmail are we talking about here?

Clearly it matters, as the behavior that Mr. Ingram seems to be having is, in my experience, atypical.   It is hard to give accurate advice without knowing the actual operating scenario.

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Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

JM Casey
 

That obviously isn't the case for David, though. The original messages are there, and his cursor is being placed at the *bottom*. I don't think he's pressing ctrl-end. So either he has to change a setting or, indeed, press ctrl-home before he starts typing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 3, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

not true. in an email client, after invoking the action to reply (usually pressing control+r), you should be placed at the top of the body field where you can start typing your reply. there's no need to press control+home first.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 3:16 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?
David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into, first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control + home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the message?







.


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Mario
 

not true. in an email client, after invoking the action to reply
(usually pressing control+r), you should be placed at the top of the
body field where you can start typing your reply. there's no need to
press control+home first.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 3:16 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?
David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need
to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into,
first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the
edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set
to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control +
home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my
question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the
message?







.


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Glenn / Lenny
 

David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into, first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control + home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ingram" <dingram269@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the message?


moderated test message 1

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

 


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

David Ingram
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Wood <tcwood12@gmail.com>
Sent: Sep 3, 2019 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

On 2019-09-03 1:30 p.m., Randy Barnett wrote:

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any
context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another
list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job
easier is not as important as understanding the message.

The difference is that Brian provides context for his messages. If
someone decides to delete messages because they are not responded to up
top, that is completely their choice. On a high traffic list, though,
having to delve through 20 quoted messages is worse than going back
through the list archives and viewing each individual message, by far.
Searching for a specific keyword is made pointless by the fact that each
and every message that is responded to with that keyword also is displayed.


how can I make sure that messages are being read? Hi i'm using webmail which makes a difference in whether you're receiving messages in a specific mannor. I know that when I had outlook, I never had these types of problems.


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

JM Casey
 

It *is* kind of amoot point anyway as it turns out, the person who originally started the conversation down this path is sending messages with no original content. :P

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 3, 2019 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

Oh my God. I got into this thread late and was actually interested in the original topic. So much for that.


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Cristóbal
 

Oh my God. I got into this thread late and was actually interested in the original topic. So much for that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

I don't think that people intentionally delete everything, I think that some folks have not figured out how to set their eMail client to show original message, or they turned that off, not knowing the significance.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:30 PM

Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

On 9/3/2019 9:26 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


moderated how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the message?


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Tyler Wood
 

On 2019-09-03 1:30 p.m., Randy Barnett wrote:

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

The difference is that Brian provides context for his messages. If someone decides to delete messages because they are not responded to up top, that is completely their choice. On a high traffic list, though, having to delve through 20 quoted messages is worse than going back through the list archives and viewing each individual message, by far. Searching for a specific keyword is made pointless by the fact that each and every message that is responded to with that keyword also is displayed.


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Glenn / Lenny
 


I don't think that people intentionally delete everything, I think that some folks have not figured out how to set their eMail client to show original message, or they turned that off, not knowing the significance.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

On 9/3/2019 9:26 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Randy Barnett
 

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

On 9/3/2019 9:26 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

It really annoys me when someone replies and they don't have their eMail program set to leave the message they are replying to.
This happens when I text a cell phone by eMail and they reply because text to eMail does not leave the message they are replying to.
But on the other hand, I need to get better at not being lazy and trimming out everything but the message I'm replying to.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM, JM Casey wrote:
*do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.
Well, we'll have to disagree on this.   The custom here is top posting, for the most part, leaving a trail of quotation multiple days deep afterward, which makes it insane when someone is trying to search the archive for original content.

If only the single message or message segment were included, I'd definitely say go for it, but that's not going to happen.

Anyone who's been following a topic through its lifespan is likely to know what's being replied to if it's an immediately previous message, anyway.   I'd love to see people delete all content except that which is being retained for context, like my top quote of one line from your message or the interspersed reply method you mention.  It's an easy matter when you hit the Reply button to do a CTRL+A followed by delete to remove all extraneous content not necessary for context preservation, but that's not going to happen, either.
 
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Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Accessible Server Software

Robbie Curtis
 

Thanks Jaffar and everyone. Jaffar, I will try that and I thought that might be the case having to use the command prompt. Thanks all!

On 9/3/2019 12:52 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi Robbie.  I think for us, we can only access the php.ini file by going into the wamp directory\bin\CurrentlyUsedPhpVersion, so for example if you are using php7.3.5, then go in to that directory, locate the php.ini file and edit it to your needs.  I hav searched through the available menus present on the server management icon on the system tray but cannot find any menu item that allows us to edit the php.ini file through there.  Cheers!

On 9/3/2019 8:45 AM, Robbie Curtis wrote:
Hi Jaffar,


I have wampserver 3 and I need to edit the php.ini file and the software is sort of inaccessible. How can I edit this file? I have researched and the forum contributors say to do it through the wampserver icon in the systems tray. Help is much appreciated.

On 9/1/2019 5:52 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Wamp:

http://www.wampserver.com/en/

On 9/2/2019 3:53 AM, Robbie Curtis wrote:
Hey Yall,


Can anyone direct me to an accessible local server software? Thanks.



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moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Al
 

If it isn't top posted it gets deleted...
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Here is a good rule of thumb that I suggest people think about, which is still applied on a lot of web forums, and goes back to the days of more extensive e-mail list use and usenet newsgroups:
Top post, *except* when the message you are replying to contains a lot of detail that must be responded to individually.
If you can't be bothered to reply to individual paragraphs in a message, by inserting your remarks in the content of the re-posted original message, or, if as the case often is, there's really no need to do this (it happens most often, I find, in serious debates), always put your reply above the message you are replying to. *do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 3, 2019 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

I don't find David's post either. I agree with Mike that replys/forwards should be top posted. most if not all members don't want to bother reading through original messages just to find a one liner remark, especially if an explaination is needed to clarify the remark.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 1:33 AM
Subject: MalwareBytes Adware Tool
No thanks, on looking for the reply, I agree with you.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mike B <mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2019 12:11 AM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Howdy Glenn,
His replies aren't top posted. Arrow down through the message and
you'll find what he's talking about. Personally, if someone doesn't
top post their, original or, reply, it gets deleted. Someone asking
for help shouldn't make it hard for someone to get to their question.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason
is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glennervin@cableone.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 10:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

David,
Still nothing in your messages.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@earthlink.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 11:54 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sep 2, 2019 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool


Hi, did you have a question?
There was nothing in your reply.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@earthlink.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 11:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Aug 31, 2019 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Hi,
I was annoyed at these pop up ads that started when
I went to a send space site.
I downloaded a MalwareBytes tool for adware, and it
found three threats that were in Internet Explorer.
I had to use the touch cursor (a jaws tool) to
activate the scan button and other parts of the tool.
The Jaws touch cursor can be activated with shift +
PC cursor.
tap PC cursor twice to disable it.
Here's the link to the scanner:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjA4OTg4Nzhf/adwcleaner_7.4.exe
Glenn


moderated Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

JM Casey
 

That’s also what I thought; I looked, and I have a braille display so this sort of thing is really fast – and didn’t find any content.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 3, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

Just FYI, there is nothing whatsoever except "bottom posted" quotation that I can see in any of Mr. Ingram's responses.

There's no new material whatsoever.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

JM Casey
 

Yeah, I don’t actually disagree with you Brian, I should clarify that *one* message quoted should be sufficient (or maybe a very specific part of it, as you do, and your method of not-quite-top-posting is usually quite clear). I myself am not always conscious of all the crap that is included after my message (as you say, sometimes it’s probably pages and pages of replies) because I don’t often read it. It’s something I’ve been made aware of on a few occasions and when that happens I do try to delete extraneous content.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 3, 2019 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM, JM Casey wrote:

*do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.

Well, we'll have to disagree on this.   The custom here is top posting, for the most part, leaving a trail of quotation multiple days deep afterward, which makes it insane when someone is trying to search the archive for original content.

If only the single message or message segment were included, I'd definitely say go for it, but that's not going to happen.

Anyone who's been following a topic through its lifespan is likely to know what's being replied to if it's an immediately previous message, anyway.   I'd love to see people delete all content except that which is being retained for context, like my top quote of one line from your message or the interspersed reply method you mention.  It's an easy matter when you hit the Reply button to do a CTRL+A followed by delete to remove all extraneous content not necessary for context preservation, but that's not going to happen, either.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

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