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moderated Excel and jaws;

david
 

 

Good afternoon all; perhaps someone can help me.  this is from one of my clients.

 

I wonder if you had a suggestion about a problem I am having with excel. I have gone through all of the help info with no luck at all. I don’t know if you can help but here it is. Excel does not recognize date formats as numbers only as text. When I enter a dates in a date column I need it to be recognized as a date in order to sort them to put them in order. I have no luck in using the date value or value function getting an error that my formula is wrong. I have gone on the internet and have had no luck with support.microsoft.com and it isn’t a disability issue for Microsoft accessibility help. Is there something I am missing? Do you have any suggestions ?

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 


moderated Re: Word Suddenly Verbose about Doc Layout

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Press shift+ctrl+8 (number row) and things will return to normal. 

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 11:28 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Word Suddenly Verbose about Doc Layout

 

Suddenly inn the past 2 days Jaws2019 has started voicing previously unspoken doc layout info not previously spoken. For example, a Word doc containing the line “Departure: October 31, 2019” will be spoken as “Departure:space marker October space marker 31, space marker 2019 paragraph mark.” I don’t know how this started or how to stop the unwanted verbosity. Running Jaws2019, Office 2016 Pro, Win 10, all latest versions. Any help greatly appreciated … although please be as step-by-step as possible.

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Word Suddenly Verbose about Doc Layout

Ed Culpepper
 

Suddenly inn the past 2 days Jaws2019 has started voicing previously unspoken doc layout info not previously spoken. For example, a Word doc containing the line “Departure: October 31, 2019” will be spoken as “Departure:space marker October space marker 31, space marker 2019 paragraph mark.” I don’t know how this started or how to stop the unwanted verbosity. Running Jaws2019, Office 2016 Pro, Win 10, all latest versions. Any help greatly appreciated … although please be as step-by-step as possible.

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Re: Listening to video on internet

Marty Hutchings
 

Kevin,  I usually have to hit Alt Tab while I am listening and Alt Tab back to the browser when the video is over.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Listening to video on internet
 

Thanks and Neither works.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 8:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Listening to video on internet

 

Two thoughts, and there could be many others.  First, put the JAWS focus somewhere else, maybe you are focused on the time display.  Second, assuming you’re just listening to the video and don’t need JAWS for anything else at the moment, press insert+space, S to have JAWS just give speech on the demand, then switch it back.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Listening to video on internet

 

Hello, There has been several times I will be on a web site and listening to a video. every 20 seconds or so the amount of time that has elapsed is read by Jaws. Is there a way to turn this off? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Re: Listening to video on internet

John Covici
 

Is this all videos, youtube only, or somme other site only?

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 09:52:33 -0400,
Kevin Meyers wrote:

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Thanks and Neither works.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 8:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Listening to video on internet



Two thoughts, and there could be many others. First, put the JAWS focus somewhere else, maybe you are focused on the time display. Second, assuming you’re just listening to the video and don’t need JAWS for anything else at the moment,
press insert+space, S to have JAWS just give speech on the demand, then switch it back.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Listening to video on internet



Hello, There has been several times I will be on a web site and listening to a video. every 20 seconds or so the amount of time that has elapsed is read by Jaws. Is there a way to turn this off? Thanks, Kevin

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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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moderated Re: Listening to video on internet

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Thanks and Neither works.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 8:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Listening to video on internet

 

Two thoughts, and there could be many others.  First, put the JAWS focus somewhere else, maybe you are focused on the time display.  Second, assuming you’re just listening to the video and don’t need JAWS for anything else at the moment, press insert+space, S to have JAWS just give speech on the demand, then switch it back.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Listening to video on internet

 

Hello, There has been several times I will be on a web site and listening to a video. every 20 seconds or so the amount of time that has elapsed is read by Jaws. Is there a way to turn this off? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Re: JAWS Dump Command

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I have observed this behavior of the JAWS Dump command. What with greater
stability, I have far fewer JAWS crashes than I had before, so it isn't the
problem it once would have been, but JAWS does not always restart after
pressing the keystroke.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Dump Command

Hi All,

Has anyone else noticed when pressing the jaws dump command jaws does not
automatically restart?

Steve


moderated Re: Listening to video on internet

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Two thoughts, and there could be many others.  First, put the JAWS focus somewhere else, maybe you are focused on the time display.  Second, assuming you’re just listening to the video and don’t need JAWS for anything else at the moment, press insert+space, S to have JAWS just give speech on the demand, then switch it back.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Listening to video on internet

 

Hello, There has been several times I will be on a web site and listening to a video. every 20 seconds or so the amount of time that has elapsed is read by Jaws. Is there a way to turn this off? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Listening to video on internet

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello, There has been several times I will be on a web site and listening to a video. every 20 seconds or so the amount of time that has elapsed is read by Jaws. Is there a way to turn this off? Thanks, Kevin


moderated JAWS Dump Command

Cook, Steve
 

Hi All,

Has anyone else noticed when pressing the jaws dump command jaws does not automatically restart?

Steve


moderated Re: New computer specs

David Ingram
 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Jason White via Groups.Io" <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io>
Sent: Aug 25, 2019 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

If you're using OCR extensively, you may notice. Likewise if you're a software developer who compiles large programs frequently, or you're doing something else that is computationally intensive. Otherwise, the CPU probably isn't the performance problem.

On 8/25/19, 15:55, "Tyler Wood" <main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of tcwood12@...> wrote:

Benchmarks tell an 8th of the story. In every day performance, it means nothing. Slow to one person may not be slow to another and that $500 extra spent on the i9 processor wouldn't be noticeable to anyone but a tech enthusiast or someone who does heavy processing work, and would make more heat, thus likely lessening the laptop's lifespan. This isn't so much the case in a desktop with adequate cooling, where these days stock clock speeds hover right around 5 ghz, which even in our rapidly changing computing era, will last for years and years and again, 99% of people don't take advantage of 20% much less 100% of the power of their processors.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: August 25, 2019 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

No. i9 is just higher than i7, the generation number is still the same, with all the newest ones starting out with 9's.


I wonder if an i9 in a laptop could even outrun an i5 in a desktop of
the same generation? That's the silly thing about all of this, my 7th
generation i5 laptop was barely able to get a better passmark cpu score
than my 4th generation i5 desktop. Both are still adequate performers,
especially running ssd hard drives and plenty of ram. I'd take an i9 if
someone were handing them out for free, but I wouldn't spend extra for one.


CH




On 8/25/2019 14:05, James Homuth wrote:
> I9 is a newer chipset than I7. 9th generation, I believe, though I may be slightly off on the naming scheme. Reviews say the performance difference between the two is fairly significant, though.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: August-25-19 3:03 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: New computer specs
>
> More info on the Processor please: I am assuming I9 is a typo as I3, I5 and I7 are what I am used to seeing. Then there are differences between various I5 processors. I7 is for 3D video games and video editing and
> I5 is more for business PC's like what we do. I have a 8th gen I5 K witch is an unlocked processor that can be ran at any speed I choose.
> Currently I am running it at 4.0GHz. I have ran it as high as 4.3GHz.
> But without water cooling in this rig I was worried about overheating although I didn't see any.
>
> I3 is for cheap entry level PC's. Dont bother with them.
>
> On 8/24/2019 10:33 PM, David Ingram wrote:
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...>
>>> Sent: Aug 24, 2019 11:21 PM
>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>>> Subject: New computer specs
>>>
>>> Hello all.
>>> Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
>>> I9 processor
>>> 16 GB ram
>>> 256 GB SSD
>>> NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
>>>
>>> I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
>>> Appreciate any advise.
>>>
>>> Thank you-
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Don't forget about a usb keyboard just in case your laptop doesn't have a full keyboard layout semular to a desktop system would but also check to see if the ram could be upgraded to 64gb ram of course. Remember you still have to allow jaws to have a significant amount of ram to run in the background while other processes are going on.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>












I wrote, see if 32gb or 64gb should work because if you're using jaws and the latest version, you'll need ram just because jaws does use a nice amount of ram. Not to mention if you're using other screen reading programs.


moderated Re: how does one join the new JAWS list

David Moore
 

Hi Jessica!

The subscription address for Mike Capelle’s JAWS list is:

Jfw-users+subscribe@groups.io

David Faren closed his list all of a sudden, because he said that people were giving him a very hard time with threatening emails and the like!

His list was getting too strict!

The new list is so much better already!

Almost 200 people have subscribed already!

Take care, Jessica!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hozefa Tambawala
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 11:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how does one join the new JAWS list

 

Hi David,

 

Please share the subscription mail Id.

 

On 8/25/19, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

>> Hi, How do I join?

>> I'm very sad to hear about the closure of the other jaws list.

> Why did this happen?

> Thanks,

> Jessica

>> 

>> Sent from my iPhone

>> 

>> On Aug 24, 2019, at 10:47 PM, David & his pack of dogs

>> <myguidedogis@...> wrote:

>> 

>> Here is an email being circulated widely.  Hello Lists,

>> 

>> Michael Capelle recently started the jfw-users@groups.io list in response

>> to

>> the closure of the jaws-users-list@groups.io list. I am the moderator of

>> this new list and am seeking new members in order to make it the best

>> resource possible for JAWS information.

>> I will do my best to keep topics on point while encouraging

>> communication.

>> But we need as many JAWS savvy users as possible in order to have the

>> best

>> knowledgebase. Hope to see you on the list.

>> 

>> Alan Lemly

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

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"Life is like a piano.

White keys are happy moments

& Black keys are sad moments.

But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music."

 

"Focus on your abilities, not your disability."

 

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moderated Re: how does one join the new JAWS list

Hozefa Tambawala
 

Hi David,

Please share the subscription mail Id.

On 8/25/19, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
Hi, How do I join?
I'm very sad to hear about the closure of the other jaws list.
Why did this happen?

Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2019, at 10:47 PM, David & his pack of dogs
<myguidedogis@...> wrote:

Here is an email being circulated widely. Hello Lists,

Michael Capelle recently started the jfw-users@groups.io list in response
to
the closure of the jaws-users-list@groups.io list. I am the moderator of
this new list and am seeking new members in order to make it the best
resource possible for JAWS information.
I will do my best to keep topics on point while encouraging
communication.
But we need as many JAWS savvy users as possible in order to have the
best
knowledgebase. Hope to see you on the list.

Alan Lemly









--
"Life is like a piano.
White keys are happy moments
& Black keys are sad moments.
But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music."

"Focus on your abilities, not your disability."

Follow me on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/starhoze

Skype ID:
star.hoze

Warm Regards,
Hozefa...


moderated Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Marty Hutchings
 

When you say that the mix changes when you plug in the computer to AC power tells me that this may have something to do with the power profile settings of the laptop. Sometimes, I have heard that things get reconfigured to save power when on battery power to save energy.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Okay. So not an issue with your computer. Interesting. Without knowing more
about your setup I think I'd just be guessing at this point. But it's fairly
safe to say nothing you're actually doing is doing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: August-25-19 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

So far it happens on two machines, the lap top and the desktop. I don't
know how to shield it. Would a toroid help?
At 02:19 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
Could be interference? I'd say try with another machine if you have
one, in case the audio input and power connectors are two close, or
some other shielding issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: August-25-19 3:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

We have put together a mixer which hears both JAWS and the phone,
allowing a person to speak to the phone without hearing JAWS at all.
it works beautifully with a lap top computer on battery. when
we plug in the computer, though, the whole thing looses its
perspective. You can make a phone call, but the guy on the receiving
end can't hear it. I have no idea why plugging in destroys the
stinkin' mix, but it sure as the world does. If he could just use a
lap top on battery, that would work.

Hmmmmmm.
At 01:45 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
The concern is the caller being able to hear jaws when they
communicate with this individual. If this is the result when both
speak on the same side, then the employer surely will have a problem
with this. The only other option would be braille display for the
individual when still being able to hear the caller undisturbed.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Here is the problem: we don't know what the final situation will be.
He is looking for a job in customer service. He needs to be able to
demonstrate that he can do the job with ... something. No vision and
one ear is hard to sell, unless of course he can point to a
configured device and show how it will work, perhaps with any system.













moderated Re: New computer specs

Jason White
 

If you're using OCR extensively, you may notice. Likewise if you're a software developer who compiles large programs frequently, or you're doing something else that is computationally intensive. Otherwise, the CPU probably isn't the performance problem.

On 8/25/19, 15:55, "Tyler Wood" <main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of tcwood12@...> wrote:

Benchmarks tell an 8th of the story. In every day performance, it means nothing. Slow to one person may not be slow to another and that $500 extra spent on the i9 processor wouldn't be noticeable to anyone but a tech enthusiast or someone who does heavy processing work, and would make more heat, thus likely lessening the laptop's lifespan. This isn't so much the case in a desktop with adequate cooling, where these days stock clock speeds hover right around 5 ghz, which even in our rapidly changing computing era, will last for years and years and again, 99% of people don't take advantage of 20% much less 100% of the power of their processors.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: August 25, 2019 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

No. i9 is just higher than i7, the generation number is still the same, with all the newest ones starting out with 9's.


I wonder if an i9 in a laptop could even outrun an i5 in a desktop of
the same generation? That's the silly thing about all of this, my 7th
generation i5 laptop was barely able to get a better passmark cpu score
than my 4th generation i5 desktop. Both are still adequate performers,
especially running ssd hard drives and plenty of ram. I'd take an i9 if
someone were handing them out for free, but I wouldn't spend extra for one.


CH




On 8/25/2019 14:05, James Homuth wrote:
> I9 is a newer chipset than I7. 9th generation, I believe, though I may be slightly off on the naming scheme. Reviews say the performance difference between the two is fairly significant, though.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: August-25-19 3:03 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: New computer specs
>
> More info on the Processor please: I am assuming I9 is a typo as I3, I5 and I7 are what I am used to seeing. Then there are differences between various I5 processors. I7 is for 3D video games and video editing and
> I5 is more for business PC's like what we do. I have a 8th gen I5 K witch is an unlocked processor that can be ran at any speed I choose.
> Currently I am running it at 4.0GHz. I have ran it as high as 4.3GHz.
> But without water cooling in this rig I was worried about overheating although I didn't see any.
>
> I3 is for cheap entry level PC's. Dont bother with them.
>
> On 8/24/2019 10:33 PM, David Ingram wrote:
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...>
>>> Sent: Aug 24, 2019 11:21 PM
>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>>> Subject: New computer specs
>>>
>>> Hello all.
>>> Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
>>> I9 processor
>>> 16 GB ram
>>> 256 GB SSD
>>> NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
>>>
>>> I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
>>> Appreciate any advise.
>>>
>>> Thank you-
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Don't forget about a usb keyboard just in case your laptop doesn't have a full keyboard layout semular to a desktop system would but also check to see if the ram could be upgraded to 64gb ram of course. Remember you still have to allow jaws to have a significant amount of ram to run in the background while other processes are going on.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


moderated Re: New computer specs

Jason White
 

Yes, I'm sure those are around, but I haven't read any announcement of JAWS for ARM yet. So, you probably can't run JAWS on ARM-based laptops yet.

At the very least, JAWS developers will probably have to rewrite any x86 assembly language code that they're using to make it run on ARM - and there may be other changes needed as well.

On 8/25/19, 16:38, "Glenn / Lenny" <main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of glennervin@...> wrote:

I was wondering when laptops will start being shipped with ARM processors,
like our phones use, and here is a good story on this:
Glenn


moderated Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Rick Mladek
 

Be sure your using a duel channel device. If you can hear both, this is
good. However, you also need be sure you are connected properly to the audio
port, as well. And, as previously mentioned, that the settings are all
correct with microphone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Okay. So not an issue with your computer. Interesting. Without knowing more
about your setup I think I'd just be guessing at this point. But it's fairly
safe to say nothing you're actually doing is doing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: August-25-19 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

So far it happens on two machines, the lap top and the desktop. I don't
know how to shield it. Would a toroid help?
At 02:19 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
Could be interference? I'd say try with another machine if you have
one, in case the audio input and power connectors are two close, or
some other shielding issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: August-25-19 3:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

We have put together a mixer which hears both JAWS and the phone,
allowing a person to speak to the phone without hearing JAWS at all.
it works beautifully with a lap top computer on battery. when
we plug in the computer, though, the whole thing looses its
perspective. You can make a phone call, but the guy on the receiving
end can't hear it. I have no idea why plugging in destroys the
stinkin' mix, but it sure as the world does. If he could just use a
lap top on battery, that would work.

Hmmmmmm.
At 01:45 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
The concern is the caller being able to hear jaws when they
communicate with this individual. If this is the result when both
speak on the same side, then the employer surely will have a problem
with this. The only other option would be braille display for the
individual when still being able to hear the caller undisturbed.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Here is the problem: we don't know what the final situation will be.
He is looking for a job in customer service. He needs to be able to
demonstrate that he can do the job with ... something. No vision and
one ear is hard to sell, unless of course he can point to a
configured device and show how it will work, perhaps with any system.













moderated Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Rick Mladek
 

Have you gone into settings and made sure this device is set as your
microphone?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 3:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

We have put together a mixer which hears both JAWS and the phone, allowing a
person to speak to the phone without hearing JAWS at all. it works
beautifully with a lap top computer on battery. when
we plug in the computer, though, the whole thing looses its
perspective. You can make a phone call, but the guy on the receiving end
can't hear it. I have no idea why plugging in destroys the stinkin' mix,
but it sure as the world does. If he could just use a lap top on battery,
that would work.

Hmmmmmm.
At 01:45 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
The concern is the caller being able to hear jaws when they communicate
with this individual. If this is the result when both speak on the same
side, then the employer surely will have a problem with this. The only
other option would be braille display for the individual when still
being able to hear the caller undisturbed.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Here is the problem: we don't know what the final situation will be.
He is looking for a job in customer service. He needs to be able to
demonstrate that he can do the job with ... something. No vision and
one ear is hard to sell, unless of course he can point to a configured
device and show how it will work, perhaps with any system.








moderated what is a toroid?

Ann Byrne
 

We use it in ham radio to get rid of interference when our radios activate things like our neighbor's hammond organ. (LOL) It is a donut shaped/size metal thingy that goes around a cord and somehow removes the overpowering electronic whatsit.

At 03:48 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
Please forgive me, but what on earth is a toroid?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Okay. So not an issue with your computer. Interesting. Without knowing more
about your setup I think I'd just be guessing at this point. But it's fairly
safe to say nothing you're actually doing is doing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: August-25-19 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

So far it happens on two machines, the lap top and the desktop. I don't
know how to shield it. Would a toroid help?
At 02:19 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
Could be interference? I'd say try with another machine if you have
one, in case the audio input and power connectors are two close, or
some other shielding issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: August-25-19 3:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

We have put together a mixer which hears both JAWS and the phone,
allowing a person to speak to the phone without hearing JAWS at all.
it works beautifully with a lap top computer on battery. when
we plug in the computer, though, the whole thing looses its
perspective. You can make a phone call, but the guy on the receiving
end can't hear it. I have no idea why plugging in destroys the
stinkin' mix, but it sure as the world does. If he could just use a
lap top on battery, that would work.

Hmmmmmm.
At 01:45 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
The concern is the caller being able to hear jaws when they
communicate with this individual. If this is the result when both
speak on the same side, then the employer surely will have a problem
with this. The only other option would be braille display for the
individual when still being able to hear the caller undisturbed.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Here is the problem: we don't know what the final situation will be.
He is looking for a job in customer service. He needs to be able to
demonstrate that he can do the job with ... something. No vision and
one ear is hard to sell, unless of course he can point to a
configured device and show how it will work, perhaps with any system.




















moderated Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Marty Hutchings
 

Please forgive me, but what on earth is a toroid?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Okay. So not an issue with your computer. Interesting. Without knowing more
about your setup I think I'd just be guessing at this point. But it's fairly
safe to say nothing you're actually doing is doing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: August-25-19 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

So far it happens on two machines, the lap top and the desktop. I don't
know how to shield it. Would a toroid help?
At 02:19 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
Could be interference? I'd say try with another machine if you have
one, in case the audio input and power connectors are two close, or
some other shielding issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: August-25-19 3:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

We have put together a mixer which hears both JAWS and the phone,
allowing a person to speak to the phone without hearing JAWS at all.
it works beautifully with a lap top computer on battery. when
we plug in the computer, though, the whole thing looses its
perspective. You can make a phone call, but the guy on the receiving
end can't hear it. I have no idea why plugging in destroys the
stinkin' mix, but it sure as the world does. If he could just use a
lap top on battery, that would work.

Hmmmmmm.
At 01:45 PM 8/25/2019, you wrote:
The concern is the caller being able to hear jaws when they
communicate with this individual. If this is the result when both
speak on the same side, then the employer surely will have a problem
with this. The only other option would be braille display for the
individual when still being able to hear the caller undisturbed.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Here is the problem: we don't know what the final situation will be.
He is looking for a job in customer service. He needs to be able to
demonstrate that he can do the job with ... something. No vision and
one ear is hard to sell, unless of course he can point to a
configured device and show how it will work, perhaps with any system.