so when i am going through this form, after the zipcode, there is an
edit box, after that, it says  black down pointing small triangle.
What the hell is that supposed to mean.  so i depress the enter key.
Then as i am arrowing through the states, they just look like words.
So i get to rhode island and depress the enter key.  Then it says
starting microsoft edge.
Why would it launch edge, i'm not even running edge, i'm running
firefox.  What am i missing here guys.  I have to get this form filled
out this weekend.

Cheers,

Jed

On 8/24/19, Jed Barton <jed@...> wrote:

so i have no idea how to interact with this.  I can't believe someone
would design a web page like this.  When i hit the enter button on the
edit box, it makes like a beep sound like it's going into forms mode.
Then when i hit alt and down arrow, it sounds like it's coming out off
forms mode.
I arrow down to Rhode Island, depress the enter key, and it keeps
telling me something about edge, like it's launching the edge web
browser.  Now i'm really confused.  Any help guys?

On 8/24/19, Jed Barton <jed@...> wrote:

ok, what is waterfox?  I'm using firefox

On 8/24/19, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:

after it says state there is a blank line. press enter to activate forms
mode. press alt plus down arrow like you would open a dialog box. then
just
down and up arrow till you find your state and press enter. i'm using
latest
jaws and waterfox. hope this helps.

On 8/24/2019 4:29 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys
So i am trying to apply for a position, but am running into an issue
with their web page.
So i can fill out most of the form, until i get to the state.  It
comes up as an edit box, but it also looks like it's a dropdown to
select a state.  I don't understand why people don't use combo boxes
the way they are supposed to.
Can someone look at it, to figure out how i am supposed to enter the
state, cause i can't submit the form.

https://www.embracehomeloans.com/recruiting/lets-talk

--
Dennis Cornelison

[image]
Virus-free. www.avast.com

so i have no idea how to interact with this. I can't believe someone
would design a web page like this. When i hit the enter button on the
edit box, it makes like a beep sound like it's going into forms mode.
Then when i hit alt and down arrow, it sounds like it's coming out off
forms mode.
I arrow down to Rhode Island, depress the enter key, and it keeps
telling me something about edge, like it's launching the edge web
browser. Now i'm really confused. Any help guys?

On 8/24/19, Jed Barton <jed@jedbarton.com> wrote:

ok, what is waterfox? I'm using firefox

On 8/24/19, dennis <dennisc67@gmail.com> wrote:

after it says state there is a blank line. press enter to activate forms
mode. press alt plus down arrow like you would open a dialog box. then
just
down and up arrow till you find your state and press enter. i'm using
latest
jaws and waterfox. hope this helps.

On 8/24/2019 4:29 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys
So i am trying to apply for a position, but am running into an issue
with their web page.
So i can fill out most of the form, until i get to the state. It
comes up as an edit box, but it also looks like it's a dropdown to
select a state. I don't understand why people don't use combo boxes
the way they are supposed to.
Can someone look at it, to figure out how i am supposed to enter the
state, cause i can't submit the form.

https://www.embracehomeloans.com/recruiting/lets-talk

--
Dennis Cornelison

[image]
Virus-free. www.avast.com

ok, what is waterfox? I'm using firefox

On 8/24/19, dennis <dennisc67@gmail.com> wrote:

after it says state there is a blank line. press enter to activate forms
mode. press alt plus down arrow like you would open a dialog box. then
just
down and up arrow till you find your state and press enter. i'm using
latest
jaws and waterfox. hope this helps.

On 8/24/2019 4:29 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys
So i am trying to apply for a position, but am running into an issue
with their web page.
So i can fill out most of the form, until i get to the state. It
comes up as an edit box, but it also looks like it's a dropdown to
select a state. I don't understand why people don't use combo boxes
the way they are supposed to.
Can someone look at it, to figure out how i am supposed to enter the
state, cause i can't submit the form.

https://www.embracehomeloans.com/recruiting/lets-talk

--
Dennis Cornelison

[image]
Virus-free. www.avast.com

after it says state there is a blank line. press enter to activate forms
mode. press alt plus down arrow like you would open a dialog box. then just
down and up arrow till you find your state and press enter. i'm using latest
jaws and waterfox. hope this helps.

On 8/24/2019 4:29 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys
So i am trying to apply for a position, but am running into an issue
with their web page.
So i can fill out most of the form, until i get to the state. It
comes up as an edit box, but it also looks like it's a dropdown to
select a state. I don't understand why people don't use combo boxes
the way they are supposed to.
Can someone look at it, to figure out how i am supposed to enter the
state, cause i can't submit the form.

https://www.embracehomeloans.com/recruiting/lets-talk

--
Dennis Cornelison

[image]
Virus-free. www.avast.com

Hey guys
So i am trying to apply for a position, but am running into an issue
with their web page.
So i can fill out most of the form, until i get to the state.  It
comes up as an edit box, but it also looks like it's a dropdown to
select a state.  I don't understand why people don't use combo boxes
the way they are supposed to.
Can someone look at it, to figure out how i am supposed to enter the
state, cause i can't submit the form.

https://www.embracehomeloans.com/recruiting/lets-talk

On Aug 24, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Jed Barton <jed@jedbarton.com> wrote:

Hey guys
So i am trying to apply for a position, but am running into an issue
with their web page.
So i can fill out most of the form, until i get to the state. It
comes up as an edit box, but it also looks like it's a dropdown to
select a state. I don't understand why people don't use combo boxes
the way they are supposed to.
Can someone look at it, to figure out how i am supposed to enter the
state, cause i can't submit the form.

https://www.embracehomeloans.com/recruiting/lets-talk

You might also want to check the drive periodically with smartmontools
and if the reallocated sectors are anything but 0, get a new drive.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 11:51:48 -0400,
Dave Durber wrote:

Hello Chris:

I just checked the hard drives serial number, on the Western
Digital web site, and discovered, that the drive is over five
years old, it has served me well. So, off to hard drive heaven it
goes.

I have decided to order a 3 TB hard drive, which is the same size
as the external drive which has the data recovered from the
defective drive. When it comes, I will use Image for Windows to
copy the partitions stored on the external hard drive to the new
internal hard drive, which will save time in initializing,
partitioning, formatting and then copying the data.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hill"
<hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Disk repair utility, usable with JAWS

Hello. Sounds like you did the right things, except for one. If
a drive gives you errors, and you manage to fix it using the
process you used, you may not want to trust it again. Hard
drives are cheap, and data is hard to replace. I had a drive in
a laptop that failed in a similar manner to yours. I was able
to write zeros to it and get it going again. Six months later
the whole disaster began again with another bad sector in a bad
spot making it unreliable. I finally put in a new drive and
restored the backup. That was the true fix to the problem.


Good luck.


CH



On 8/24/2019 09:35, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello John

Thank you for your suggestions. In addition, I would also like
to thank others on this list for their suggestions.

It has beena week or 2 since I posed my original question.

Later that day, a friend came round and after I told him my
problem, he said that he had the Ontrac data recovery software
on his system. I took the drive out of the particular computer
and, along with that hard drive, an additional USB hard drive
and a USB 2.5/3.5 inch docking station we went to his house.

Please note: the latest version of the Ontrac Data Recovery
software, is not accessible to any screen reading software. I
tried it before my friend came to my house.

Once he had run the Ontrac software and performed a scan on
the troublesome hard drive, to my enormous relief and enormous
good luck, he was able to recover all the data on the drive
and copy it to the spare hard drive. The software, did report
some problems with some sectors on the drive, fortunately,
there was no data in those sectors.

When I got home, I reinstalled the hard drive in the
computer. As the hard drive is a Western Digital hard drive, I
downloaded and installed their Data Lifeguard software.

As I had all the data from the drive stored on another
drive. I decided to choose the option to write zeros to the
entire drive, in effect, returning the drive to the state it
was in when I purchased it. The function completed
successfully, with no errors.

Once that was done, I used the windows Disk Management
utility, to initialize, partition and format the drive.

I then used CHKDSK, with the /f switch, to check the drive. It
came back with no errors.

I restarted the computer and used CHKDSK, with the /F switch
again, and again, the program came back with no errors.

I restored the data from the backup drive to the original
drive. So, everything is back to normal.

I will check the drive regularly to check reliability.

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Disk repair utility, usable with JAWS

I would get smartmontools and see what it says about your drive.
Also, a great utility for disk repair is spinwrite at www.grc.com.

On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:00:21 -0400,
Dave Durber wrote:

Hello Everyone:

I have a system running Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT, which I
intend upgrading to Windows 10 when I get a new Motherboard for
it. I have JAWS 2018 installed on it. In addition to the CD-DVD
ROM, it has a 120 GB SSD, which is the system drive, and 2 1 TB
Hdd Drives, which ar F and G.

Yesterday, when I started the system, I tried to log onto drive
g. Windows reported a drive error. Of course, being Windows, the
operating system did not tell me what type of error was affecting
the drive, only that Windows could not access it.

I ran CMD, and in the DOS shell window, I used CHKDSK with the /f
switch. CHKDSK, reported that it could not attempt to scan the
drive because of a drive error and closed itself and returned me
to the DOS Shell window.

My question is, is anyone on this list, using a good disk repair
utility, which is accessible using JAWS
At present, I have no idea, as to whether the problem is with
the partition, its format or the problem is with the files which
hold the information about the data stored on the drive.

Any Suggestions please.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com

Hello. Sounds like you did the right things, except for one. If a drive gives you errors, and you manage to fix it using the process you used, you may not want to trust it again. Hard drives are cheap, and data is hard to replace. I had a drive in a laptop that failed in a similar manner to yours. I was able to write zeros to it and get it going again. Six months later the whole disaster began again with another bad sector in a bad spot making it unreliable. I finally put in a new drive and restored the backup. That was the true fix to the problem.


Good luck.


CH



On 8/24/2019 09:35, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello John

Thank you for your suggestions. In addition, I would also like to thank others on this list for their suggestions.

It has beena week or 2 since I posed my original question.

Later that day, a friend came round and after I told him my problem, he said that he had the Ontrac data recovery software on his system. I took the drive out of the particular computer and, along with that hard drive, an additional USB hard drive and a USB 2.5/3.5 inch docking station we went to his house.

Please note: the latest version of the Ontrac Data Recovery software, is not accessible to any screen reading software. I tried it before my friend came to my house.

Once he had run the Ontrac software and performed a scan on the troublesome hard drive, to my enormous relief and enormous good luck, he was able to recover all the data on the drive and copy it to the spare hard drive. The software, did report some problems with some sectors on the drive, fortunately, there was no data in those sectors.

When I got home, I reinstalled the hard drive in the computer. As the hard drive is a Western Digital hard drive, I downloaded and installed their Data Lifeguard software.

As I had all the data from the drive stored on another drive. I decided to choose the option to write zeros to the entire drive, in effect, returning the drive to the state it was in when I purchased it. The function completed successfully, with no errors.

Once that was done, I used the windows Disk Management utility, to initialize, partition and format the drive.

I then used CHKDSK, with the /f switch, to check the drive. It came back with no errors.

I restarted the computer and used CHKDSK, with the /F switch again, and again, the program came back with no errors.

I restored the data from the backup drive to the original drive. So, everything is back to normal.

I will check the drive regularly to check reliability.

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Disk repair utility, usable with JAWS

I would get smartmontools and see what it says about your drive.
Also, a great utility for disk repair is spinwrite at www.grc.com.

On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:00:21 -0400,
Dave Durber wrote:

Hello Everyone:

I have a system running Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT, which I
intend upgrading to Windows 10 when I get a new Motherboard for
it. I have JAWS 2018 installed on it. In addition to the CD-DVD
ROM, it has a 120 GB SSD, which is the system drive, and 2 1 TB
Hdd Drives, which ar F and G.

Yesterday, when I started the system, I tried to log onto drive
g. Windows reported a drive error. Of course, being Windows, the
operating system did not tell me what type of error was affecting
the drive, only that Windows could not access it.

I ran CMD, and in the DOS shell window, I used CHKDSK with the /f
switch. CHKDSK, reported that it could not attempt to scan the
drive because of a drive error and closed itself and returned me
to the DOS Shell window.

My question is, is anyone on this list, using a good disk repair
utility, which is accessible using JAWS
At present, I have no idea, as to whether the problem is with
the partition, its format or the problem is with the files which
hold the information about the data stored on the drive.

Any Suggestions please.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com

This is all the detritus of a competing group having been blown up by its owner, without warning, and the aftermath of same.  In reading posts from this list and the other one, I tend to agree.  It all sounds very petty and some have posted 10 times in one day. It reminded me of what a blind person told me year’s ago, “By enlarge most blind people do not have a life so all they do is post to groups.” When someone posts 10 times to the new group in one day, they give Creedence to that comment.                 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: August 22, 2019 11:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how does one join the new JAWS list

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 02:16 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

This is the first I’ve heard of it. If not, what exactly is the issue with this list specifically to make this happen?

Tyler,

            You know that I like you, and we've had plenty of private exchanges by e-mail, but for the love of heaven please review the messages from this very list from the last few days!!

             This list, the JAWS for Windows Users Support List, is neither being migrated or going anywhere.   This is all the detritus of a competing group having been blown up by its owner, without warning, and the aftermath of same.

              Information, complete information, regarding the replacement list that sprung up, that I truly think should not have, has been supplied already for anyone who wishes to join "the replacement group."

              There is absolutely no need, let alone a pressing one, for a different JAWS Users Group for English speaking JAWS users on Groups.io.   This one is of longstanding, very active, and very welcoming.   It's more than sufficient, and it avoids fragmentation.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: August 22, 2019 11:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how does one join the new JAWS list

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 02:16 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

This is the first I’ve heard of it. If not, what exactly is the issue with this list specifically to make this happen?

Tyler,

            You know that I like you, and we've had plenty of private exchanges by e-mail, but for the love of heaven please review the messages from this very list from the last few days!!

             This list, the JAWS for Windows Users Support List, is neither being migrated or going anywhere.   This is all the detritus of a competing group having been blown up by its owner, without warning, and the aftermath of same.

              Information, complete information, regarding the replacement list that sprung up, that I truly think should not have, has been supplied already for anyone who wishes to join "the replacement group."

              There is absolutely no need, let alone a pressing one, for a different JAWS Users Group for English speaking JAWS users on Groups.io.   This one is of longstanding, very active, and very welcoming.   It's more than sufficient, and it avoids fragmentation.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

Hello John

Thank you for your suggestions. In addition, I would also like to thank others on this list for their suggestions.

It has beena week or 2 since I posed my original question.

Later that day, a friend came round and after I told him my problem, he said that he had the Ontrac data recovery software on his system. I took the drive out of the particular computer and, along with that hard drive, an additional USB hard drive  and a USB 2.5/3.5 inch docking station we went to his house.

Please note: the latest version of the Ontrac Data Recovery software, is not accessible to any screen reading software. I tried it before my friend came to my house.

Once he had run the Ontrac software and performed a scan on the troublesome hard drive, to my enormous relief and enormous good luck, he was able to recover all the data on the drive and copy it to the spare hard drive. The software, did report some problems with some sectors on the drive, fortunately, there was no data in those sectors.

When I got home, I reinstalled the hard drive in the computer. As the hard drive is a Western Digital hard drive, I downloaded and installed their Data Lifeguard software.

As I had all the data from the drive stored on another drive. I decided to choose the option to write zeros to the entire drive, in effect, returning the drive to the state it was in when I purchased it. The function completed successfully, with no errors.

Once that was done, I used the windows Disk Management utility, to initialize, partition and format the drive.

I then used CHKDSK, with the /f switch, to check the drive. It came back with no errors.

I restarted the computer and used CHKDSK, with the /F switch again, and again, the program came back with no errors.

I restored the data from the backup drive to the original drive. So, everything is back to normal.

I will check the drive regularly to check reliability.

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Disk repair utility, usable with JAWS

I would get smartmontools and see what it says about your drive.
Also, a great utility for disk repair is spinwrite at www.grc.com.

On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:00:21 -0400,
Dave Durber wrote:

Hello Everyone:

I have a system running Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT, which I
intend upgrading to Windows 10 when I get a new Motherboard for
it. I have JAWS 2018 installed on it. In addition to the CD-DVD
ROM, it has a 120 GB SSD, which is the system drive, and 2 1 TB
Hdd Drives, which ar F and G.

Yesterday, when I started the system, I tried to log onto drive
g. Windows reported a drive error. Of course, being Windows, the
operating system did not tell me what type of error was affecting
the drive, only that Windows could not access it.

I ran CMD, and in the DOS shell window, I used CHKDSK with the /f
switch. CHKDSK, reported that it could not attempt to scan the
drive because of a drive error and closed itself and returned me
to the DOS Shell window.

My question is, is anyone on this list, using a good disk repair
utility, which is accessible using JAWS
At  present, I have no idea, as to whether the problem is with
the partition, its format or the problem is with the files which
hold the information about the data stored on the drive.

Any Suggestions please.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

--
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

        John Covici wb2una
        covici@ccs.covici.com