I still want to know why changing the keyboard layout in Windows won't get you what you need.


On 7/31/2019 11:02 AM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello Steve:

I like having the single and double quote on the same key. On a UK keyboard, the @ sign and double quote are swapped round.

If the ENTER key is vertical, the \key is moved to the top row, to the left of the BACK SPACE key. If the ENTER key is horrizontal, the \ key is above the ENTER key

On a UK keyboard, the \ key, is generally to the left of the letter zed, thus making the left shift key, the same size as an alpha numeric key. I am used to having a wide left shift key.

As I said previously, given time, I could and would get used to the changes but, I just prefer the US keyboard layout.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: I am looking for the following type of laptop

Are the keys really different, not just software-defined differently? Can you not tell Windows it's a US keyboard layout,and the devil with what the key caps say? Interesting.


On 7/30/2019 4:20 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Thank you Steve for the suggestion.

I've been buying from them for the last 4 years. In fact, they are located not far from where I was born. They are near Portstmouth, I was born in Gosport.

My only problem in buying a Laptop from them, is that I want to have a US keyboard layout, and they cannot provide that.

I do not particularly like the UK keyboard layout. Of course, if I had no choice, I would get used to using one.

Dave Durber

I attempted this. I went from 11.8 Mb to 11.3 Mb. Should I not have more reduction or is this it?

Seven Zip iis the best I have used. But for a basic one time need the buitl in zip funtcion in windows is fine. Right click then go to send to then click Compressed (zipped) folder. On 7/31/2019 11:02 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m needing to compress a document before emailing. I’m at an approximate 11.8 Mb and am wondering which application is easiest to use and accessible with Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all ideas/comments,

 

Rick

Seven Zip iis the best I have used. But for a basic one time need the buitl in zip funtcion in windows is fine. Right click then go to send to then click Compressed (zipped) folder. On 7/31/2019 11:02 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m needing to compress a document before emailing. I’m at an approximate 11.8 Mb and am wondering which application is easiest to use and accessible with Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all ideas/comments,

 

Rick

Hi all,

 

I’m needing to compress a document before emailing. I’m at an approximate 11.8 Mb and am wondering which application is easiest to use and accessible with Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all ideas/comments,

 

Rick

I use Windows Mail for my Gmail account. It isn’t perfect, but it works for me. I think it is easier to use than Gmail—but Gmail offers more. I just want quick and easy.    

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: ann
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

 

For me, this app is completely inaccessible with JFW. I can't do a single tihng with it. I still can't even get past the screen with the Add Account button. nothing makes that disappear even though it told me my Gmail account had been added.

~Ann



On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:32 PM, Melissa Stott wrote:

I should mention though, that if you want to add your signature, that is not very accessible.

 

Melissa

 

From: ann
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

 

Hi,

 

 

Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app

that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've

managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen

with the Add Account button.

 

 

If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi I can tab around the dialog box in the signature box, and I do have trouble getting to the edit box to put in your signature.

Kenny Peyatt JR.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Yes, People do use it. But in my opinion Thunderbird is much more

accessible. I have tried the mail app and it iscombersome and not nearly

as easy to use as Thunderbird.

On 7/30/2019 9:11 AM, ann wrote:

> Hi,

> 

> 

> Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail

> app that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all

> I've managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the

> screen with the Add Account button.

> 

> 

> If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

> Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

> like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

> 

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> ~Ann

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

Yes, People do use it. But in my opinion Thunderbird is much more

accessible. I have tried the mail app and it iscombersome and not nearly

as easy to use as Thunderbird.

On 7/30/2019 9:11 AM, ann wrote:

> Hi,

> 

> 

> Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail

> app that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all

> I've managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the

> screen with the Add Account button.

> 

> 

> If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

> Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

> like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

> 

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> ~Ann

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

Hello Steve:

I like having the single and double quote on the same key. On a UK
keyboard, the @ sign and double quote are swapped round.

If the ENTER key is vertical, the \key is moved to the top row, to the
left of the BACK SPACE key. If the ENTER key is horrizontal, the \ key
is above the ENTER key

On a UK keyboard, the \ key, is generally to the left of the letter
zed, thus making the left shift key, the same size as an alpha numeric
key. I am used to having a wide left shift key.

As I said previously, given time, I could and would get used to the
changes but, I just prefer the US keyboard layout.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura"
<number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: I am looking for the following type of laptop

Are the keys really different, not just software-defined differently?
Can you not tell Windows it's a US keyboard layout,and the devil with
what the key caps say? Interesting.


On 7/30/2019 4:20 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Thank you Steve for the suggestion.

I've been buying from them for the last 4 years. In fact, they are
located not far from where I was born. They are near Portstmouth, I
was born in Gosport.

My only problem in buying a Laptop from them, is that I want to have
a US keyboard layout, and they cannot provide that.

I do not particularly like the UK keyboard layout. Of course, if I
had no choice, I would get used to using one.

Dave Durber

Hello Steve:

I like having the single and double quote on the same key. On a UK
keyboard, the @ sign and double quote are swapped round.

If the ENTER key is vertical, the \key is moved to the top row, to the
left of the BACK SPACE key. If the ENTER key is horrizontal, the \ key
is above the ENTER key

On a UK keyboard, the \ key, is generally to the left of the letter
zed, thus making the left shift key, the same size as an alpha numeric
key. I am used to having a wide left shift key.

As I said previously, given time, I could and would get used to the
changes but, I just prefer the US keyboard layout.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura"
<number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: I am looking for the following type of laptop

Are the keys really different, not just software-defined differently?
Can you not tell Windows it's a US keyboard layout,and the devil with
what the key caps say? Interesting.


On 7/30/2019 4:20 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Thank you Steve for the suggestion.

I've been buying from them for the last 4 years. In fact, they are
located not far from where I was born. They are near Portstmouth, I
was born in Gosport.

My only problem in buying a Laptop from them, is that I want to have
a US keyboard layout, and they cannot provide that.

I do not particularly like the UK keyboard layout. Of course, if I
had no choice, I would get used to using one.

Dave Durber

Hello Steve:

I like having the single and double quote on the same key. On a UK
keyboard, the @ sign and double quote are swapped round.

If the ENTER key is vertical, the \key is moved to the top row, to the
left of the BACK SPACE key. If the ENTER key is horrizontal, the \ key
is above the ENTER key

On a UK keyboard, the \ key, is generally to the left of the letter
zed, thus making the left shift key, the same size as an alpha numeric
key. I am used to having a wide left shift key.

As I said previously, given time, I could and would get used to the
changes but, I just prefer the US keyboard layout.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura"
<number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: I am looking for the following type of laptop

Are the keys really different, not just software-defined differently?
Can you not tell Windows it's a US keyboard layout,and the devil with
what the key caps say? Interesting.


On 7/30/2019 4:20 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Thank you Steve for the suggestion.

I've been buying from them for the last 4 years. In fact, they are
located not far from where I was born. They are near Portstmouth, I
was born in Gosport.

My only problem in buying a Laptop from them, is that I want to have
a US keyboard layout, and they cannot provide that.

I do not particularly like the UK keyboard layout. Of course, if I
had no choice, I would get used to using one.

Dave Durber

Hello Steve:

I like having the single and double quote on the same key. On a UK keyboard, the @ sign and double quote are swapped round.

If the ENTER key is vertical, the \key is moved to the top row, to the left of the BACK SPACE key. If the ENTER key is horrizontal, the \ key is above the ENTER key

On a UK keyboard, the \ key, is generally to the left of the letter zed, thus making the left shift key, the same size as an alpha numeric key. I am used to having a wide left shift key.

As I said previously, given time, I could and would get used to the changes but, I just prefer the US keyboard layout.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: I am looking for the following type of laptop

Are the keys really different, not just software-defined differently? Can you not tell Windows it's a US keyboard layout,and the devil with what the key caps say? Interesting.


On 7/30/2019 4:20 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Thank you Steve for the suggestion.

I've been buying from them for the last 4 years. In fact, they are located not far from where I was born. They are near Portstmouth, I was born in Gosport.

My only problem in buying a Laptop from them, is that I want to have a US keyboard layout, and they cannot provide that.

I do not particularly like the UK keyboard layout. Of course, if I had no choice, I would get used to using one.

Dave Durber

Have you called FS tech support or Microsoft Accessibility? Either one might be able to help.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

For me, this app is completely inaccessible with JFW. I can't do a single tihng with it. I still can't even get past the screen with the Add Account button. nothing makes that disappear even though it told me my Gmail account had been added.

~Ann



On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:32 PM, Melissa Stott wrote:

I should mention though, that if you want to add your signature, that is not very accessible.

 

Melissa

 

From: ann
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

 

Hi,

 

 

Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app

that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've

managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen

with the Add Account button.

 

 

If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

 

 

For me, this app is completely inaccessible with JFW. I can't do a single tihng with it. I still can't even get past the screen with the Add Account button. nothing makes that disappear even though it told me my Gmail account had been added.

~Ann



On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:32 PM, Melissa Stott wrote:

I should mention though, that if you want to add your signature, that is not very accessible.

 

Melissa

 

From: ann
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

 

Hi,

 

 

Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app

that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've

managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen

with the Add Account button.

 

 

If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are the keys really different, not just software-defined differently? Can you not tell Windows it's a US keyboard layout,and the devil with what the key caps say? Interesting.


On 7/30/2019 4:20 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Thank you Steve for the suggestion.

I've been buying from them for the last 4 years. In fact, they are located not far from where I was born. They are near Portstmouth, I was born in Gosport.

My only problem in buying a Laptop from them, is that I want to have a US keyboard layout, and they cannot provide that.

I do not particularly like the UK keyboard layout. Of course, if I had no choice, I would get used to using one.

Dave Durber

For me, this app is completely inaccessible with JFW. I can't do a single tihng with it. I still can't even get past the screen with the Add Account button. nothing makes that disappear even though it told me my Gmail account had been added.

~Ann



On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:32 PM, Melissa Stott wrote:

I should mention though, that if you want to add your signature, that is not very accessible.

 

Melissa

 

From: ann
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

 

Hi,

 

 

Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app

that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've

managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen

with the Add Account button.

 

 

If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

 

 

I should mention though, that if you want to add your signature, that is not very accessible.

 

Melissa

 

From: ann
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

 

Hi,

 

 

Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app

that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've

managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen

with the Add Account button.

 

 

If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann