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moderated Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

O.Addison Gethers
 

I’m sorry I thought you were Sieghard 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

I have no idea if you’re directing this to Sieghard or myself, but if me, I haven’t gotten anything.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

I just send you email

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Because CC and BCC aren’t the same thing.

That’s why.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Sieghard  if bcc  is suppose shows or hide people email address? When I tab to cc field  why it’s have 5 people name in there ?  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

What is “5 blind people email address  by their name”?

The keystroke described displays the BCC field when composing a new message, BCC stands for “blind carbon copy” and it simply means that any email address you put into that field will not be seen by any other recipient or recipients.

For example, if you put John Smith’s email address in the “To” field and Mary Clark’s email address in the CC field then when John Smith gets the email he will see that you also sent the email to Mary Clark.

If, however, you put Mary Clark’s email address in the BCC field, then John Smith will get the email and Mary Clar will get the email, but it will look as if you only sent it to them and not to anybody else.

Who the 5 blind people are you are talking about I don’t know.

Also, if you repeat the keyboard shortcut sequence which was described it will again hide the BCC field.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

David  when I did that ,but why does it showed the 5 blind people email address  by their name ? I thought the email address were suppose to be disappear or invisible ?? Also when I tab I couldn’t put in the person name who I want to send to with new message in edit box

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hello, your missing a part of the keystroke,

 

ctrl+n=November,

alt+p=papa,

b=bravo

you should now see the BCC field,

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Thanks  for telling me and I’m  hearing impairment 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Read David’s instructions, you are not pressing the keys he says you need to press.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hi David When I press ctrl n for new message  then I press alt b it won’t work

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Good afternoon,

no disrespect, you really need to do something about your typing, it's really not readable. or you need to use a spellchecker, which may not even work.

never the less,

to get the BCC field in outlook,

 

1, ctrl+n=new message,

2, alt+p=options,

3, press the letter b=bcc,

so, alt+p/b

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Helo All  I’musigj2019 ad desktop court wiow10  and hae mrosotolook 2007 emclints Does anybody know h t used bcc in gmil  ? This isy first tie trtodo t.If yone have nswer for I’l piated so much .

Thnks

Addison

moderated Re: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

Melissa Stott
 

I should mention though, that if you want to add your signature, that is not very accessible.

 

Melissa

 

From: ann
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

 

Hi,

 

 

Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app

that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've

managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen

with the Add Account button.

 

 

If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

Melissa Stott
 

Yes, I use the mail app all of the time.  Takes some getting use to, but it is accessible.

 

Melissa

 

From: ann
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

 

Hi,

 

 

Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app

that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've

managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen

with the Add Account button.

 

 

If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than

Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems

like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: New Dropbox Navigation

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

Thanks for your below.  Could you please provide specific instructions how to do this?  Deleting the shortcut from my desktop (Windows 7) is pretty straight forward, but the part about creating a new one is a little murky; particularly as regards just how it would login to my DB account?  Or, maybe I am over-thinking this, and it is more simple?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Dropbox Navigation

 

Alternatively just delete the Dropbox shortcut from your desktop and create a new shortcut which points to your Dropbox folder.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Dropbox Navigation

 

Hi,

 

I have tried doing the operation as described below to get DB to open in Windows Explorer, like how the older version worked.  However, so far I have not been successful at making this setting stick.  Is there some trick to try, or some other way of accomplishing this?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 5:36 PM
To: JFW List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: New Dropbox Navigation

 

Howdy All,

 

I just ran into an issue with Dropbox where it wouldn't let me acces my files.  Well, it turned out that it wanted to update and after downloading the installer and reinstalling Dropbox navigating the folders flat out sucked, so here's how to change the necessary setting for easier navigation.

 

1. Open Dropbox from the system tray, tab to, Access and Manage your Dropbox settings button, and press enter.

 

2. Now tab to, Preferences, and press enter.

 

3. On the General tab, tab to the, Open folders in Dropbox combobox, open this combobox and choose the, Explorer, option.  With Jaws you can open this combobox with Alt + down arrow and then up arrow to the Explorer option and press enter to close the combobox.  Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close preferences.

Note:  This can act a little tricky so it might take a couple of attempts to get the Explorer settings change to stick.

If you have a shortcut key that opens Dropbox options, after you openDropbox up arrow to, Preferences, press enter and follow step 3 from above.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

moderated Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

Cristóbal
 

I have no idea if you’re directing this to Sieghard or myself, but if me, I haven’t gotten anything.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

I just send you email

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Because CC and BCC aren’t the same thing.

That’s why.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Sieghard  if bcc  is suppose shows or hide people email address? When I tab to cc field  why it’s have 5 people name in there ?  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

What is “5 blind people email address  by their name”?

The keystroke described displays the BCC field when composing a new message, BCC stands for “blind carbon copy” and it simply means that any email address you put into that field will not be seen by any other recipient or recipients.

For example, if you put John Smith’s email address in the “To” field and Mary Clark’s email address in the CC field then when John Smith gets the email he will see that you also sent the email to Mary Clark.

If, however, you put Mary Clark’s email address in the BCC field, then John Smith will get the email and Mary Clar will get the email, but it will look as if you only sent it to them and not to anybody else.

Who the 5 blind people are you are talking about I don’t know.

Also, if you repeat the keyboard shortcut sequence which was described it will again hide the BCC field.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

David  when I did that ,but why does it showed the 5 blind people email address  by their name ? I thought the email address were suppose to be disappear or invisible ?? Also when I tab I couldn’t put in the person name who I want to send to with new message in edit box

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hello, your missing a part of the keystroke,

 

ctrl+n=November,

alt+p=papa,

b=bravo

you should now see the BCC field,

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Thanks  for telling me and I’m  hearing impairment 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Read David’s instructions, you are not pressing the keys he says you need to press.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hi David When I press ctrl n for new message  then I press alt b it won’t work

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Good afternoon,

no disrespect, you really need to do something about your typing, it's really not readable. or you need to use a spellchecker, which may not even work.

never the less,

to get the BCC field in outlook,

 

1, ctrl+n=new message,

2, alt+p=options,

3, press the letter b=bcc,

so, alt+p/b

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Helo All  I’musigj2019 ad desktop court wiow10  and hae mrosotolook 2007 emclints Does anybody know h t used bcc in gmil  ? This isy first tie trtodo t.If yone have nswer for I’l piated so much .

Thnks

Addison

moderated Re: I am looking for the following type of laptop

Dave Durber
 

Thank you Steve for the suggestion.

I've been buying from them for the last 4 years. In fact, they are located not far from where I was born. They are near Portstmouth, I was born in Gosport.

My only problem in buying a Laptop from them, is that I want to have a US keyboard layout, and they cannot provide that.

I do not particularly like the UK keyboard layout. Of course, if I had no choice, I would get used to using one.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: I am looking for the following type of laptop


Contact Novatech, a very well-known and reputable company in your country who have built quality machines for several folks I know. If you can't find out how to do so, email me privately and I'll get you some phone numbers. They may not be in your neck of the wood though, so you may have to do this buying by mail, or they may tell you they have an outlet in or near your location.


On 7/29/2019 11:36 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello everyone:

I am looking for either a brand name laptop or one I can build myself or have built for me, which has room for not only the system hard drive but also has an additional hard drive for data.

I want the speed of an SSD drive and an HDD drive for storing my data files.

I have looked on the internet for a laptop with this configuration, with no success.

Any ideas?

moderated Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

Curtis Delzer
 

congratulations, Tony.

 that keyboard should give you many years of service.
Curtis Delzer 
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...
On 7/23/2019 5:50 AM, Tony wrote:

I have my audio bluetooth transmitter on top of a wood cabinet and a keyboard receiver on about 35 feet of USB cable to work in another room of the house.  It makes a real difference to get away from the computer case and my metal desk.

 

I’ve been using the G613 for a couple of days and remember why I have been wanting a mechanical keyboard since I lost my last one in a house fire thirty years ago.  Except for the extra keys on the left, I am typing faster and really like it.

 

One of the two keyboards I ordered was damaged in shipment and Amazon has already replaced it.  With a credit I had from a previous Amazon order problem and by signing up for the Amazon Visa card, the two keyboards cost me $6 each.  I’ll probably have to wait another 25 years for Amazon to give me another deal like that.

 

Tony

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

The extension cable is to cut down on the interference from the PC tower. You may be surprised how much better it works if you use the cable and place the receiver a couple of feet away from all the electronics.

 

On 7/20/2019 11:15 AM, Tony wrote:

Thanks.  It has always been in the external packing with other wireless keyboards I have purchased.

 

One of the keyboards I purchased had shipping damaged to several of the keys.  Amazon has already shipped a replacement.

 

The extra keys on the left are going to take a bit of getting used to butI thinkI’m going to like the keyboard.  I have wbanted a mechanical keyboard since my last one in the late 80s. but haven’t known which to buy.

 

Thanks for telling me where to find the receiver.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 4:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

it is in the battery compartment, not the packaging outside the keyboard. We've bought two of them and they were in both.

hmm to think they'd leave it out of any keyboard is unlikely.

 
Curtis Delzer 
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA
 
curtis@...

On 7/19/2019 7:52 PM, Tony wrote:

I had my wife help open the the second keyboard package, there wa no receiver in it either.  She was able to plug a mail USB into the female end of the cable.  Guess I wasn’t holding it straight enough.

 

Tony

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

Did you press and hold the Lightspeed button for maybe 4 or 5 seconds, I don’t think the keyboard is factory paired with the USB receiver.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 2:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

I bought 2 of these on Prime day.  I have only opened one so far.

 

I have it turned on, the receiver plugged in, and the light speed light turns on when I press a key.

 

Nothing is going to the computer.

 

I looked on the Logitech site for documentation and, after a dowzen links, was told there was no information.

 

Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 7:50 AM
To: viphone@...
Subject: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

Hi,

 

I thought it would be OK to post a brief review here on the Logitech G613 wireless mechanical gaming keyboard since just as myself I assume others also are always looking for the “perfect” keyboard.

This Logitech G613 “Lightspeed” wireless mechanical gaming keyboard can connect to iOS via Bluetooth and to a PC using the supplied USB receiver which then let’s you take advantage of the “Lightspeed” 1 millisecond delay which is pretty impressive (if you connect to a PC with Bluetooth this does not apply and while it’s probably still just as good as any other Bluetooth keyboard, it sort of makes sense to make the most of this keyboard’s features).

I still use my trusty Logitech K780 at home where I have it connected to my laptop via Bluetooth as well as to my iPhone and Apple TV, but I bought the G613 for my main PC at work and I must say so far it’s getting pretty close to that perfect score.

Unlike most wired mechanical gaming keyboards this does not have all the fancy RGB lighting options which of course is fine for me. The one thing I am not super fond of are the 6 F1 through fF6 function keys in a vertical column down the left side of the keyboard with maybe half an inch of space between them and the left most keys like Control, Shift, Caps Lock, Tab, ` and Escape. But I also bought a wired Logitech mechanical keyboard and it also has them, most mechanical keyboards are designed for gamers rather than people who want a mechanical keyboard for typing. It takes a bit of getting used to not accidently pressing them. gamers can configure these keys as macro keys to perform whatever actions gamers want.

Apart from that the keyboard has a very traditional layout with nice spaces between the blocks of function keys, the inverted cursor T, the 6-pack with Insert/Delete, Page Up/Down and Home/End, of course the number pad and above that it has 4 more slightly lower media keys for Play/Pause, Stop, Rewind and Forward.

At the very top is a slider switch which locks the Windows key which apparently gamers like so they don’t accidently press it and Cortana/the search box pops up, then there are two buttons which switch between the USB Lightspeed connection and the Bluetooth connection and once the Bluetooth connection to the iPhone has been established all it takes is to press the Bluetooth button in order to switch to the phone and the USB button to switch back.

On the very top right is a large key which is a volume rocker, press the left side for down and the right side for up and beside that is a Mute button. Finally on the right side towards the back is a on/off slider switch.

The keyboard runs on 2 AA batteries and is supposed to give you 18 month of battery life.

There is a proper application key on the right side of the spacebar which works, but there is no Windows key on the right side which is something you don’t hardly see any more.

 

Logitech uses their own Romer-G switches and not Cherry MXswitches. The Romer-G are most like Cherry Brown, a nice distance of travel, but not hard to press and relatively quiet for mechanical keys.

They do take a bit of getting used to, but I quite like them. For those who want to read more about them, below is a link to a review from Tom’s Hardware:

 

Logitech’s Romer-G Switches – Are they any good?

 

The other nice thing about this keyboard is it’s relatively reasonable price, I paid $129.99 Canadian for it, believe I read that on a good deal you can pick it up in the US for as low as $70 US.

Wireless mechanical keyboards are not out there too much yet, I did find a couple more made by the company “Das Keyboard” but they are more expensive although I may order them from Amazon to test and if I don’t like them at least as much or better send them back. My other 2 computers at my store where I have a Logitech MK510 keyboard and mouse combo both start to show their wear on the keyboards and I want to see if using mechanical keyboards won’t change the fact that many of the keyboards which are mostly out there these days are typically done after 2 or at most 3 years of heavy use.

As with all mechanical keyboards keep in mind that the Logitech G613 is heavy compared to other non-mechanical wireless keyboards.

And one last thing which is nice, this keyboard has function keys which work as function keys out of the box and as much as I also like my K780, it’s a bit of a pain to have to install the not very accessible Logitech Options software just so you can change the function keys to behave like function keys instead of media keys.

 

 

Happy typing,

Sieghard

 

moderated Re: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

Walker, Michael E
 

People who find Mail cumbersome to use may benefit from looking at Microsoft's documentation on it. Don't quote me on it, but JAWS may have help documentation on it under something like Popular Applications with JAWS.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

Yes, People do use it. But in my opinion Thunderbird is much more accessible. I have tried the mail app and it iscombersome and not nearly as easy to use as Thunderbird.


On 7/30/2019 9:11 AM, ann wrote:
Hi,


Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail
app that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all
I've managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the
screen with the Add Account button.


If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than
Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems
like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.


Thanks,

~Ann




moderated Re: tutorial for writing a business letter?

Richard Turner
 


Below is a link to Perdue university's writing lab, where they spell out the format for a business letter.
For what it is worth, you are writing a business letter with Word, and Jaws tells you what you are doing.
It is the word formatting that is key and I'm glad to learn that the basic business letter format hasn't changed much since I learned in the 1970's.



https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/professional_technical_writing/basic_business_letters/index.html


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 

On Jul 30, 2019, at 6:35 AM, george b <gbmagoo@...> wrote:

There should be several in templets when you open word.

If not go to https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.microsoft.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbed33a1901de45ba77c508d714f2c98d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637000905300997710&amp;sdata=BkbM92nZnkAq%2BLIXs2KY4S%2FkWydCp2zlYBSnrWcisXg%3D&amp;reserved=0

Then search for business letter templates and there are many for free to
download

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 30, 2019 6:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: tutorial for writing a business letter?

Where could I find a JFW tutorial for writing/formatting a formal business
letter?









moderated Re: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

Randy Barnett
 

Yes, People do use it. But in my opinion Thunderbird is much more accessible. I have tried the mail app and it iscombersome and not nearly as easy to use as Thunderbird.

On 7/30/2019 9:11 AM, ann wrote:
Hi,


Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen with the Add Account button.


If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.


Thanks,

~Ann



moderated Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

O.Addison Gethers
 

I just send you email

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Because CC and BCC aren’t the same thing.

That’s why.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Sieghard  if bcc  is suppose shows or hide people email address? When I tab to cc field  why it’s have 5 people name in there ?  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

What is “5 blind people email address  by their name”?

The keystroke described displays the BCC field when composing a new message, BCC stands for “blind carbon copy” and it simply means that any email address you put into that field will not be seen by any other recipient or recipients.

For example, if you put John Smith’s email address in the “To” field and Mary Clark’s email address in the CC field then when John Smith gets the email he will see that you also sent the email to Mary Clark.

If, however, you put Mary Clark’s email address in the BCC field, then John Smith will get the email and Mary Clar will get the email, but it will look as if you only sent it to them and not to anybody else.

Who the 5 blind people are you are talking about I don’t know.

Also, if you repeat the keyboard shortcut sequence which was described it will again hide the BCC field.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

David  when I did that ,but why does it showed the 5 blind people email address  by their name ? I thought the email address were suppose to be disappear or invisible ?? Also when I tab I couldn’t put in the person name who I want to send to with new message in edit box

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hello, your missing a part of the keystroke,

 

ctrl+n=November,

alt+p=papa,

b=bravo

you should now see the BCC field,

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Thanks  for telling me and I’m  hearing impairment 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Read David’s instructions, you are not pressing the keys he says you need to press.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hi David When I press ctrl n for new message  then I press alt b it won’t work

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Good afternoon,

no disrespect, you really need to do something about your typing, it's really not readable. or you need to use a spellchecker, which may not even work.

never the less,

to get the BCC field in outlook,

 

1, ctrl+n=new message,

2, alt+p=options,

3, press the letter b=bcc,

so, alt+p/b

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Helo All  I’musigj2019 ad desktop court wiow10  and hae mrosotolook 2007 emclints Does anybody know h t used bcc in gmil  ? This isy first tie trtodo t.If yone have nswer for I’l piated so much .

Thnks

Addison

moderated Re: Jaws and orical

Peter op t Hof
 

Hi,


I have used TOAT, but it is served out.

The workaround from Pamela works for me too.

By the way, there are more CLI tools which you can use.

Also i use JQUERY and Biz from Seeburger.


Greetings from the Netherlands.


Peter.


Op 30-7-2019 om 17:55 schreef Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND:

Mike,

I am a database administrator, mostly with informix, but I also do some oracle work. I mostly do work by directly logging onto a linux server via puTTY.

I have not used TOAD for a long time, so cannot comment on how it works with JAWS.

Oracle Enterprise Manager is working better with JAWS than it used to. It can still be somewhat cumbersome, but I have been able to use it when I have needed to.

Oracle Developer would give you the graphical view of a database. I had tried using that with JAWS on my Windows 7 laptop, but it was impossible to use due to the amount of memory on my laptop. I am now using Windows 10, but haven't tried it there yet. It did look like it might have possibilities with JAWS, but it seemed to be too much of a hog for my laptop.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via Groups.Io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Pam,

Oracle accessibility, in the context of connecting to a database, has also been a question I have had for years. I am glad to see it is being discussed on this list. I have asked on other lists, to get no satisfactory answer.

Yes, I know one can use SQL*Plus to connect and query a database, but how does one go about graphically seeing a database with JAWS? I know TOAD Datapoint is cross-database. Is there a way to make it work with JAWS?

Thank you,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

It depends on what you are wanting to do with an oracle database. Are you trying to use client tools such as SqlPlus or Oracle Developer to connect to a remote database? Are you trying to use Oracle Enterprise Manager? Are you connecting to a database directly on a unix or linux server?

If you can be more specific, I may be able to provide more help.

Pam
________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tony Guy via Groups.Io [tonyguy061=gmail.com@groups.io]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 8:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Thank you for that.

On 7/29/19, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:
Don't know. By the way, oracle is spelled o r a c l e.

On Jul 29, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Tony Guy <tonyguy061@...> wrote:

Does anyone know how JAWS works with Orical data base? Did I get
myself in a lot of trouble?











moderated Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

Mario
 

because cc stands for carbon copy, in which the names/addresses would be
visible. if whom ever sent the email and put the names/addresses in the
bcc field, those names/addresses are not visible to anyone.

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 1:30 PM
Subject: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

Sieghard if bcc is suppose shows or hide people email address? When I tab
to cc field why it's have 5 people name in there ?



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here



What is "5 blind people email address by their name"?

The keystroke described displays the BCC field when composing a new message,
BCC stands for "blind carbon copy" and it simply means that any email
address you put into that field will not be seen by any other recipient or
recipients.

For example, if you put John Smith's email address in the "To" field and
Mary Clark's email address in the CC field then when John Smith gets the
email he will see that you also sent the email to Mary Clark.

If, however, you put Mary Clark's email address in the BCC field, then John
Smith will get the email and Mary Clar will get the email, but it will look
as if you only sent it to them and not to anybody else.

Who the 5 blind people are you are talking about I don't know.

Also, if you repeat the keyboard shortcut sequence which was described it
will again hide the BCC field.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here



David when I did that ,but why does it showed the 5 blind people email
address by their name ? I thought the email address were suppose to be
disappear or invisible ?? Also when I tab I couldn't put in the person name
who I want to send to with new message in edit box





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here



Hello, your missing a part of the keystroke,



ctrl+n=November,

alt+p=papa,

b=bravo

you should now see the BCC field,







The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here



Thanks for telling me and I'm hearing impairment





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here



Read David's instructions, you are not pressing the keys he says you need to
press.





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here



Hi David When I press ctrl n for new message then I press alt b it won't
work





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here



Good afternoon,

no disrespect, you really need to do something about your typing, it's
really not readable. or you need to use a spellchecker, which may not even
work.

never the less,

to get the BCC field in outlook,



1, ctrl+n=new message,

2, alt+p=options,

3, press the letter b=bcc,

so, alt+p/b





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here



Helo All I'musigj2019 ad desktop court wiow10 and hae mrosotolook 2007
emclints Does anybody know h t used bcc in gmil ? This isy first tie trtodo
t.If yone have nswer for I'l piated so much .

Thnks

Addison

moderated Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

Cristóbal
 

Because CC and BCC aren’t the same thing.

That’s why.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Sieghard  if bcc  is suppose shows or hide people email address? When I tab to cc field  why it’s have 5 people name in there ?  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

What is “5 blind people email address  by their name”?

The keystroke described displays the BCC field when composing a new message, BCC stands for “blind carbon copy” and it simply means that any email address you put into that field will not be seen by any other recipient or recipients.

For example, if you put John Smith’s email address in the “To” field and Mary Clark’s email address in the CC field then when John Smith gets the email he will see that you also sent the email to Mary Clark.

If, however, you put Mary Clark’s email address in the BCC field, then John Smith will get the email and Mary Clar will get the email, but it will look as if you only sent it to them and not to anybody else.

Who the 5 blind people are you are talking about I don’t know.

Also, if you repeat the keyboard shortcut sequence which was described it will again hide the BCC field.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

David  when I did that ,but why does it showed the 5 blind people email address  by their name ? I thought the email address were suppose to be disappear or invisible ?? Also when I tab I couldn’t put in the person name who I want to send to with new message in edit box

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hello, your missing a part of the keystroke,

 

ctrl+n=November,

alt+p=papa,

b=bravo

you should now see the BCC field,

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Thanks  for telling me and I’m  hearing impairment 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Read David’s instructions, you are not pressing the keys he says you need to press.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hi David When I press ctrl n for new message  then I press alt b it won’t work

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Good afternoon,

no disrespect, you really need to do something about your typing, it's really not readable. or you need to use a spellchecker, which may not even work.

never the less,

to get the BCC field in outlook,

 

1, ctrl+n=new message,

2, alt+p=options,

3, press the letter b=bcc,

so, alt+p/b

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Helo All  I’musigj2019 ad desktop court wiow10  and hae mrosotolook 2007 emclints Does anybody know h t used bcc in gmil  ? This isy first tie trtodo t.If yone have nswer for I’l piated so much .

Thnks

Addison

moderated Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

O.Addison Gethers
 

Sieghard  if bcc  is suppose shows or hide people email address? When I tab to cc field  why it’s have 5 people name in there ?  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

What is “5 blind people email address  by their name”?

The keystroke described displays the BCC field when composing a new message, BCC stands for “blind carbon copy” and it simply means that any email address you put into that field will not be seen by any other recipient or recipients.

For example, if you put John Smith’s email address in the “To” field and Mary Clark’s email address in the CC field then when John Smith gets the email he will see that you also sent the email to Mary Clark.

If, however, you put Mary Clark’s email address in the BCC field, then John Smith will get the email and Mary Clar will get the email, but it will look as if you only sent it to them and not to anybody else.

Who the 5 blind people are you are talking about I don’t know.

Also, if you repeat the keyboard shortcut sequence which was described it will again hide the BCC field.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

David  when I did that ,but why does it showed the 5 blind people email address  by their name ? I thought the email address were suppose to be disappear or invisible ?? Also when I tab I couldn’t put in the person name who I want to send to with new message in edit box

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hello, your missing a part of the keystroke,

 

ctrl+n=November,

alt+p=papa,

b=bravo

you should now see the BCC field,

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Thanks  for telling me and I’m  hearing impairment 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Read David’s instructions, you are not pressing the keys he says you need to press.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hi David When I press ctrl n for new message  then I press alt b it won’t work

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Good afternoon,

no disrespect, you really need to do something about your typing, it's really not readable. or you need to use a spellchecker, which may not even work.

never the less,

to get the BCC field in outlook,

 

1, ctrl+n=new message,

2, alt+p=options,

3, press the letter b=bcc,

so, alt+p/b

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Helo All  I’musigj2019 ad desktop court wiow10  and hae mrosotolook 2007 emclints Does anybody know h t used bcc in gmil  ? This isy first tie trtodo t.If yone have nswer for I’l piated so much .

Thnks

Addison

moderated Re: Jaws and orical

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Yes, sorry, I guess I shortened its name.


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via Groups.Io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Pam,

Is Oracle Developer the same as Oracle SQL Developer?

Thank you,
Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Mike,

I am a database administrator, mostly with informix, but I also do some oracle work. I mostly do work by directly logging onto a linux server via puTTY.

I have not used TOAD for a long time, so cannot comment on how it works with JAWS.

Oracle Enterprise Manager is working better with JAWS than it used to. It can still be somewhat cumbersome, but I have been able to use it when I have needed to.

Oracle Developer would give you the graphical view of a database. I had tried using that with JAWS on my Windows 7 laptop, but it was impossible to use due to the amount of memory on my laptop. I am now using Windows 10, but haven't tried it there yet. It did look like it might have possibilities with JAWS, but it seemed to be too much of a hog for my laptop.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via Groups.Io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Pam,

Oracle accessibility, in the context of connecting to a database, has also been a question I have had for years. I am glad to see it is being discussed on this list. I have asked on other lists, to get no satisfactory answer.

Yes, I know one can use SQL*Plus to connect and query a database, but how does one go about graphically seeing a database with JAWS? I know TOAD Datapoint is cross-database. Is there a way to make it work with JAWS?

Thank you,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

It depends on what you are wanting to do with an oracle database. Are you trying to use client tools such as SqlPlus or Oracle Developer to connect to a remote database? Are you trying to use Oracle Enterprise Manager? Are you connecting to a database directly on a unix or linux server?

If you can be more specific, I may be able to provide more help.

Pam
________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tony Guy via Groups.Io [tonyguy061=gmail.com@groups.io]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 8:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Thank you for that.

On 7/29/19, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:
Don't know. By the way, oracle is spelled o r a c l e.

On Jul 29, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Tony Guy <tonyguy061@...> wrote:

Does anyone know how JAWS works with Orical data base? Did I get
myself in a lot of trouble?




moderated Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

What is “5 blind people email address  by their name”?

The keystroke described displays the BCC field when composing a new message, BCC stands for “blind carbon copy” and it simply means that any email address you put into that field will not be seen by any other recipient or recipients.

For example, if you put John Smith’s email address in the “To” field and Mary Clark’s email address in the CC field then when John Smith gets the email he will see that you also sent the email to Mary Clark.

If, however, you put Mary Clark’s email address in the BCC field, then John Smith will get the email and Mary Clar will get the email, but it will look as if you only sent it to them and not to anybody else.

Who the 5 blind people are you are talking about I don’t know.

Also, if you repeat the keyboard shortcut sequence which was described it will again hide the BCC field.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

David  when I did that ,but why does it showed the 5 blind people email address  by their name ? I thought the email address were suppose to be disappear or invisible ?? Also when I tab I couldn’t put in the person name who I want to send to with new message in edit box

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hello, your missing a part of the keystroke,

 

ctrl+n=November,

alt+p=papa,

b=bravo

you should now see the BCC field,

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Thanks  for telling me and I’m  hearing impairment 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Read David’s instructions, you are not pressing the keys he says you need to press.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Hi David When I press ctrl n for new message  then I press alt b it won’t work

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Good afternoon,

no disrespect, you really need to do something about your typing, it's really not readable. or you need to use a spellchecker, which may not even work.

never the less,

to get the BCC field in outlook,

 

1, ctrl+n=new message,

2, alt+p=options,

3, press the letter b=bcc,

so, alt+p/b

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Jaws2019 Gmail question on bcc Addison here

 

Helo All  I’musigj2019 ad desktop court wiow10  and hae mrosotolook 2007 emclints Does anybody know h t used bcc in gmil  ? This isy first tie trtodo t.If yone have nswer for I’l piated so much .

Thnks

Addison

moderated Re: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

Walker, Michael E
 

Ann,

http://www.freedomscientific.com/ has information on Windows 10 Mail as part of the FSCast podcast.

Best wishes,
Mike

Michael E. Walker
Programmer/Analyst: HR, SSG & Corporate Systems
The Boeing Company
Work: (314) 563-6501
Email: Michael.E.Walker3@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

Hi,


Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen with the Add Account button.


If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.


Thanks,

~Ann

moderated Using the built-in mail app in Windows10?

ann
 

Hi,


Using the latest version of Jaws with latest Windows10. Is the mail app that comes with Windows10 at all usable with Jaws? So far, all I've managed to do is add an account, but now I can't get past the screen with the Add Account button.


If it isn't accessible, what other email clients, other than Thunderbird, can people recommend? I cold use Outlook,b ut that seems like such overkill when all I want to do is get my email.


Thanks,

~Ann

moderated Re: Jaws and orical

Walker, Michael E
 

Pam,

Is Oracle Developer the same as Oracle SQL Developer?

Thank you,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Mike,

I am a database administrator, mostly with informix, but I also do some oracle work. I mostly do work by directly logging onto a linux server via puTTY.

I have not used TOAD for a long time, so cannot comment on how it works with JAWS.

Oracle Enterprise Manager is working better with JAWS than it used to. It can still be somewhat cumbersome, but I have been able to use it when I have needed to.

Oracle Developer would give you the graphical view of a database. I had tried using that with JAWS on my Windows 7 laptop, but it was impossible to use due to the amount of memory on my laptop. I am now using Windows 10, but haven't tried it there yet. It did look like it might have possibilities with JAWS, but it seemed to be too much of a hog for my laptop.

Pam


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via Groups.Io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Pam,

Oracle accessibility, in the context of connecting to a database, has also been a question I have had for years. I am glad to see it is being discussed on this list. I have asked on other lists, to get no satisfactory answer.

Yes, I know one can use SQL*Plus to connect and query a database, but how does one go about graphically seeing a database with JAWS? I know TOAD Datapoint is cross-database. Is there a way to make it work with JAWS?

Thank you,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

It depends on what you are wanting to do with an oracle database. Are you trying to use client tools such as SqlPlus or Oracle Developer to connect to a remote database? Are you trying to use Oracle Enterprise Manager? Are you connecting to a database directly on a unix or linux server?

If you can be more specific, I may be able to provide more help.

Pam
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tony Guy via Groups.Io [tonyguy061=gmail.com@groups.io]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 8:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and orical

Thank you for that.

On 7/29/19, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:
Don't know. By the way, oracle is spelled o r a c l e.

On Jul 29, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Tony Guy <tonyguy061@...> wrote:

Does anyone know how JAWS works with Orical data base? Did I get
myself in a lot of trouble?