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Sorry, I forgot this, but Richard is correct, you can work around this by using Narrator for changing any Settings and the Jaws touch cursor also works in Settings. If you have to frequently use the Calculator it is still a pain in the neck though because Jaws also does not read the Calculator.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 19 installation on windows 10
As far as settings goes, that is Jaws. I use Narrator when in settings. The business of Windows 10 saying Cortana when you tap the Windows Key is a Windows 10 thing. Sometimes if you double tap the Windows Key it will say search, but that only worked a few times for me. I just treat Cortana like the old search box'. If you hit Windows key plus d, do you land on your desktop? HTH,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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Hi Meesha,
Yes, unfortunately I have the same issue on one of my work PC’s, I can use any application just fine, but Jaws will not speak in the Windows search box, the start menu, the Settings app, control Panel, Calculator and other Windows applications. I an on the Jaws beta team and know a few others have also experienced this, but it seems to be rare and an illusive issue to fix, for me this started over a year ago on this one PC and so far no Windows update, Jaws update, Windows repair or Jaws repair/reinstallation has fixed it. I am convinced that unfortunately the only way to fix this would be to reinstall Windows absolutely fresh and from scratch. I am running the current Beta version of Jaws, but I think the June update already included an alternative way to display the start menu and for me Jaws now reads the start menu on this machine, but still not the Settings app, Windows search box or Calculator. Open Jaws Settings Centre with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row, make sure default settings are loaded by pressing Control + Shift + D, then type “access” in the search box. Tab once and you should have 3 search results, one of them is the following: Start menu: Access Out-of-Process not checked Check that and tab to OK and save the new setting, then try the start menu. Sorry I can’t provide an actual solution/fix for it, but so far I don’t think there is one except to reinstall Windows 10, then reinstall Jaws, all your applications and put back your data from backup.
Best regards, Sieghard
In the June update of Jaws have also
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 1:23 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS 19 installation on windows 10
Hello all, I have recently joined this group and find the information shared very informative. Hope someone can help me with the below query… I am trying to install JAWS 19 in my laptop with Windows home” basic after uninstalling JAWS 2018. The problem is JAWS is silent on various items on the PC like – on the start menu, it only speaks “Cortana” and nothing else. Then it is silent when I open system settings folder or open the option to connect to a network. I have already performed the full recovery couple of times however the problem persists. Has anybody faced a similar issue? I would really appreciate any insights to resolve this. Many thanks Meesha Arora
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I also get this occasionally, you can check the Action Centre and if there is no notification ignore it, usually you can minimize all applications with Windows Key + M and it goes away.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rick Mladek
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 3:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Microsoft notifications
Randy,
I now truly believe my pc has gremlins hidden within.
Yesterday, while at work and on this desk top pc running windows 10 and jaws 2019. I could be closing any Microsoft application, including internet explorer, outlook, word and ExCell, when I would close the program, I would hear “new notification”. I could not find any notification with either cursor, jaws/pc/touch cursors.
Today, I turn on my pc and have forgotten about this, opening and closing various programs previously mentioned. Until I find your message here in Outlook, I had forgotten about this issue experienced all day yesterday. I began opening and closing these various troubled programs and nothing. No more “new notification” alerts.
So, the gremlins are sleeping in obvously and the problem has mysteriously moved on.
Thanks for the note and if this returns, I’ll be back hoping to find a resolution.
Rickpc/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Hi Rick, sorry to hear you're still having all kinds of trouble. Although I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say maybe can we freeze it? :-) Randy Barnett owner of soundtique
Hi all,
Since I did that jaws repair, I have so many things different. One of the newest, as I close any Microsoft program, word, xcell or any browser, even firefox... I get some sort of notification that you cannot alt F4 to close, you just alt tab to another item open on the task bar and it disappears. I am not even able to know what is being said. So, how do I turn off these notifications? Within basic of jaws options, menu and control help is off and access key is also off.
Thanks for putting up with me... uhg!
Rick
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Is there any way to turn off these notifications?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:36 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Microsoft notifications I get these notification windows frequently. In fact,I got one yesterday that inhibited my ability to use Winamp. It turned out to be a window telling me my computer would restart to apply some updates during inactive hours, etc., etc., blah blah blah, but could I read it? NO! Could I do anything to let Winamp come into focus so I could even close it? Actually yes, but I had to do it within a split second after Alt-Tabbing to the Winamp window, otherwise the notification window would overwrite it and I'd lose focus again. Ver'r'r'r'ry annoying!
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Steve Matzura
I get these notification windows frequently. In fact,I got one yesterday that inhibited my ability to use Winamp. It turned out to be a window telling me my computer would restart to apply some updates during inactive hours, etc., etc., blah blah blah, but could I read it? NO! Could I do anything to let Winamp come into focus so I could even close it? Actually yes, but I had to do it within a split second after Alt-Tabbing to the Winamp window, otherwise the notification window would overwrite it and I'd lose focus again. Ver'r'r'r'ry annoying!
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Re: what setting is needed to read links character by character
Rick Mladek
Thanks Dave, I’ll give this a try next time fumbling through the sites at question...
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Hello,
An easy way to do this is to open the links list and get to the link in question. Then tab once to the move to link button and hit enter on this. You can then right arrow to read character by character.
David
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Richard Turner
I had not run Battleship for several years.
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I got an error, then Windows 10 offered compatibility mode, which also failed, then it offered the trouble shooter, and when I tested those settings it worked fine. I exited the game after having set up my ships and played a few rounds, then the trouble shooter offered to save those settings. So I did. HTH, Richard Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64 Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Kitchensinc games thanks for these.?? i am getting ready to switch over from windows seven and didn't want to lose these.?? thanks. stew On 7/25/2019 6:52 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:
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David Kingsbury
Hello,
An easy way to do this is to open the links list and get to the link in question. Then tab once to the move to link button and hit enter on this. You can then right arrow to read character by character.
David
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Les Kriegler
Rick, I don't think it's necessarily gremlins. For many years, Jaws never found the Desktop when closing an application. While it's better than it was, I donT always land on the desktop. In fact, I get the New Notification message often. I just hit Windows-d and always focus is brought to the desktop. Les
On Jul 25, 2019 6:58 AM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:
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Richard Turner
As far as settings goes, that is Jaws.
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I use Narrator when in settings.
The business of Windows 10 saying Cortana when you tap the Windows Key is a Windows 10 thing. Sometimes if you double tap the Windows Key it will say search, but that only worked a few times for me.
I just treat Cortana like the old search box'.
If you hit Windows key plus d, do you land on your desktop?
HTH,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
On Jul 25, 2019, at 3:02 AM, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:
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cecropia64
thanks for these.?? i am getting ready to switch over from windows seven and didn't want to lose these.?? thanks.
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On 7/25/2019 6:52 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:
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Rick Mladek
Randy,
I now truly believe my pc has gremlins hidden within.
Yesterday, while at work and on this desk top pc running windows 10 and jaws 2019. I could be closing any Microsoft application, including internet explorer, outlook, word and ExCell, when I would close the program, I would hear “new notification”. I could not find any notification with either cursor, jaws/pc/touch cursors.
Today, I turn on my pc and have forgotten about this, opening and closing various programs previously mentioned. Until I find your message here in Outlook, I had forgotten about this issue experienced all day yesterday. I began opening and closing these various troubled programs and nothing. No more “new notification” alerts.
So, the gremlins are sleeping in obvously and the problem has mysteriously moved on.
Thanks for the note and if this returns, I’ll be back hoping to find a resolution.
Rickpc/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Microsoft notifications
Hi Rick, sorry to hear you're still having all kinds of trouble. Although I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say maybe can we freeze it? :-) Randy Barnett owner of soundtique
Hi all,
Since I did that jaws repair, I have so many things different. One of the newest, as I close any Microsoft program, word, xcell or any browser, even firefox... I get some sort of notification that you cannot alt F4 to close, you just alt tab to another item open on the task bar and it disappears. I am not even able to know what is being said. So, how do I turn off these notifications? Within basic of jaws options, menu and control help is off and access key is also off.
Thanks for putting up with me... uhg!
Rick
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Gerald Levy
Okay, thanks to somebody on another list, here's a link to a Drop Box folder that contains the installer for the complete suite of KitchensInc games for Windows 10.?? I installed them on my Windows 10 PC, and they work!:
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On 7/24/2019 6:02 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yes, there are certainly differences, but downward compatibility is definitely a major concern in this operating system. I'm not only assuming, but basing it upon all my personal experience with this operating system so far, which tells me that, though you may have to do a bit of tweaking, almost everything short of old Dos programmes can be made to work.
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ARORA Meesha
Hello all, I have recently joined this group and find the information shared very informative. Hope someone can help me with the below query… I am trying to install JAWS 19 in my laptop with Windows home” basic after uninstalling JAWS 2018. The problem is JAWS is silent on various items on the PC like – on the start menu, it only speaks “Cortana” and nothing else. Then it is silent when I open system settings folder or open the option to connect to a network. I have already performed the full recovery couple of times however the problem persists. Has anybody faced a similar issue? I would really appreciate any insights to resolve this. Many thanks Meesha Arora
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Randy Barnett
Hi Rick, sorry to hear you're still having all kinds of trouble. Although I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say maybe can we freeze it? :-)
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On Jul 24, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Since I did that jaws repair, I have so many things different. One of the newest, as I close any Microsoft program, word, xcell or any browser, even firefox... I get some sort of notification that you cannot alt F4 to close, you just alt tab to another item open on the task bar and it disappears. I am not even able to know what is being said. So, how do I turn off these notifications? Within basic of jaws options, menu and control help is off and access key is also off.
Thanks for putting up with me... uhg!
Rick
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Rick Mladek
Hi all,
Since I did that jaws repair, I have so many things different. One of the newest, as I close any Microsoft program, word, xcell or any browser, even firefox... I get some sort of notification that you cannot alt F4 to close, you just alt tab to another item open on the task bar and it disappears. I am not even able to know what is being said. So, how do I turn off these notifications? Within basic of jaws options, menu and control help is off and access key is also off.
Thanks for putting up with me... uhg!
Rick
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JM Casey
Yes, there are certainly differences, but downward compatibility is definitely a major concern in this operating system. I'm not only assuming, but basing it upon all my personal experience with this operating system so far, which tells me that, though you may have to do a bit of tweaking, almost everything short of old Dos programmes can be made to work.
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Nevertheless, try installing them on your Windows 10 machine; see what happens.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: July 24, 2019 5:57 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Kitchensinc games Not necessarily.?? Windows 10 is a completely different animal than its predecessors.?? You downloaded the KitchensInc games from Bryan Smart's site, which, unfortunately, is apparently gone.?? Who knows what he did to get them to work with Windows 10??? Has anyone downloaded these games from Jim Kitchen's original site and gotten them to work successfully with Windows 10??? I'm pretty sure the games on this site were designed to work only with Windows 7 and earlier, and you cannot assume that a program that works with Windows 7 will work with Windows 10 without modification. Gerald On 7/24/2019 5:17 PM, JM Casey wrote: So, I only got these a couple of years ago on my Windows 10 box. Seems I downloaded the versions provided on Brian Smart's site. But, I'm not really sure that much was done with them. I think they're the most recent versions by Kitchen himself. Maybe the menu programme is new, and they are voiced by Microsoft David, in my case, but it's probably the Sapi voice that was also available in Windows 7.
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cecropia64
thanks Mario.
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On 7/24/2019 4:59 PM, Mario wrote:
Stew and Gerald, here's the link Richard posted:
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Gerald Levy
Not necessarily.?? Windows 10 is a completely different animal than its predecessors.?? You downloaded the KitchensInc games from Bryan Smart's site, which, unfortunately, is apparently gone.?? Who knows what he did to get them to work with Windows 10??? Has anyone downloaded these games from Jim Kitchen's original site and gotten them to work successfully with Windows 10??? I'm pretty sure the games on this site were designed to work only with Windows 7 and earlier, and you cannot assume that a program that works with Windows 7 will work with Windows 10 without modification.
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On 7/24/2019 5:17 PM, JM Casey wrote:
So, I only got these a couple of years ago on my Windows 10 box. Seems I downloaded the versions provided on Brian Smart's site. But, I'm not really sure that much was done with them. I think they're the most recent versions by Kitchen himself. Maybe the menu programme is new, and they are voiced by Microsoft David, in my case, but it's probably the Sapi voice that was also available in Windows 7.
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Mario
here's another link that allows the saving of an archive of all of the
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From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, July 24, 2019, 4:59 PM Subject: Kitchensinc games Stew and Gerald, here's the link Richard posted: https://www.agarchive.net/pages/devs/kitchensinc.html -------- Original Message -------- From: cecropia64 [mailto:cecropia64@att.net] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Wednesday, July 24, 2019, 4:15 PM Subject: Kitchensinc games thanks for this.?? stew On 7/24/2019 4:11 PM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote: I did a little research and discovered that someone named Bryan Smart modified the KitchenSinc suite of games to work with Windows 10 shortly after Jim passed away four years ago, and posted them on his web site.?? But I tried to visit this site, and it appears that it has been taken down, so it looks like there is currently no way to download Windows 10 versions of KitchenSinc games, unless there is another web site somewhere else: https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=13307 Gerald On 7/24/2019 3:14 PM, Richard Turner wrote: I didn't make myself very clear, but the link I sent is to the Windows 10 version. I wish I could remember the name of the person who did them. I knew Jim for a long time and played chess with him via email. If you play the baseball game, you may recognize my name. Later, Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."?? (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> ?? On Jul 24, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>> wrote: My understanding is thatJim Kitchen passed away before he had an opportunity to modify his suite of games to work with Windows 10.?? If somebody else modified them to work with Windows 10, I would certainly be interested in the web site where they can be downloaded. Gerald On 7/24/2019 12:50 PM, Richard Turner wrote: I don't have an answer yet for the issue since I am at work. But, someone did produce them for Windows 10. When I get home I will see if I can duplicate the issue. Here is the link to an archive of Jim's games: https://www.agarchive.net/pages/devs/kitchensinc.html <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.agarchive.net%2Fpages%2Fdevs%2Fkitchensinc.html&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf4acdf25bda24efb9f3708d71060fc25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636995881051750305&sdata=CBs2pgtGsoVLpOH5VgCGrFHqhILXC9SmtQjb6JaqRkk%3D&reserved=0> Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."?? (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) www.turner42.com <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf4acdf25bda24efb9f3708d71060fc25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636995881051760316&sdata=8ZTKaht5w%2BpE2tGHXOh%2FJbQdL7ZdE2UJTixw8cVtgig%3D&reserved=0> ?? On Jul 24, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com <mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com>> wrote: this maybe a long shot, but the battleship game is not announcing the coordinates as my sister moves about the grid. does anyone know of a fix or can suggest how to maybe fix this issue? also would like to know if the games have been ported to work in Windows 10 so I can install the games when I finally upgrade? .
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