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moderated Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

Larry Wayland
 

I am having the same problem with Jaws 19, and Windows v 1803. I have found
that giving the computer a little more time to settle in, after booting
seems to help.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

I've found that maximizing the screen to get Jaws back into focus usually
does the trick. This way too, I am able to keep my place. If I tab or shift
tab, Focus will come back, but I'll usually be placed at the top of the
screen which is a major annoyance.
Regardless, yes, it is a pain. Also, I've encountered this behavior with
earlier versions of Jaws and before the 1903 update.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

This happens to me frequently. If I go out of J19 and use NVDA to get to
the site, then go back to J19, everything is fine after that. Pain in the
neck and elsewhere. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be an
annoyance.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 10:29:00 -0600
"james hooper" <rockiesfan296@gmail.com> wrote:

So that is the problem, when I try using Krome with the latest jaws 2019
and windows 1903 when I open a web page with krome it just says blank, any
thoughts.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I don't think how fast IE is has anything to do with how fast your system
is. It may have a bit to do with whether you have a 6 Mbps down/1 Mbps up
ADSL connection or a 250 MBPS down/50 MBPS up fiber connection, but believe
me, I also have some relatively fast systems and I have older slower ones
and IE is equally slow on all of them. When they talk about fast web
browsers and do tests where they set whatever benchmarks are being used I am
sure there is a reason why Chrome is always performing much higher than IE
or why, for that matter, pretty much most modern chromium based browsers do.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I dont notice it being slow. But I run very fast systems.


On 7/2/2019 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason
(extremely rare now) is how slow it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun
Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when
that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do
what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each
will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge
is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on
occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried
water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.





On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:


Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web
browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth
on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks
think is best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com>



Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel>
, or

Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>


















moderated What choice do I use to get a Focus Blue paired so it works with JAWS?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I will very soon be the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue display, but I have a really simple question about it, and it deals with pairing it so it works over Bluetooth.  I had to get a Bluetooth dongle for my Windows 10 laptop, because the one in it is broke.  I can’t get Windows to pair with other devices through it like the instructions claim, so I installed the drivers that came with the dongle.  I now have this nice piece of software with the CSR dongle, but I’m not quite sure what to do from here.  My question is, what kind of a device is the Focus?  I have several options to choose from, such as a phone and headphones, but they’re not what I want.  I have three choices to select from, but I don’t know which one to use.  They are: Keyboard, Computer, and All.  Now, just which one do I use?  I’d try Keyboard, but I don’t know if that’s good enough, because JAWS sends data to the display to read.  I think Computer is overkill, so I don’t think it’s that one either.  All might be what I want, but I’m not really familiar with using Bluetooth.  Can someone give me some help?  I’m asking here, because if I want to use the Focus over Bluetooth with JAWS, I need to get this working, but I’m a newbie at this.  Once I learn, I’ll be more than happy to pay the kindness forward for someone else out there.

 

Thanks in advance for the help, and if things really work out well, I might have one of these neat things in my grubby little hands next week.  There’s a good and bad side to that, though.  The good side is I’ll have it.  The bad side is if I get it now, my financial advisor, also known as Mom will kill me for doing it, so I won’t get to use it.  Even worse, I probably wouldn’t even be buried with it because she’d send it back.  All kidding aside, Mom has my best interest at heart, and she might holler a bit, but I’ll deal with it and go on from there.

 

Have a great day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

Cristóbal
 

I've found that maximizing the screen to get Jaws back into focus usually
does the trick. This way too, I am able to keep my place. If I tab or shift
tab, Focus will come back, but I'll usually be placed at the top of the
screen which is a major annoyance.
Regardless, yes, it is a pain. Also, I've encountered this behavior with
earlier versions of Jaws and before the 1903 update.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

This happens to me frequently. If I go out of J19 and use NVDA to get to
the site, then go back to J19, everything is fine after that. Pain in the
neck and elsewhere. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be an
annoyance.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 10:29:00 -0600
"james hooper" <rockiesfan296@gmail.com> wrote:

So that is the problem, when I try using Krome with the latest jaws 2019
and windows 1903 when I open a web page with krome it just says blank, any
thoughts.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I don't think how fast IE is has anything to do with how fast your system
is. It may have a bit to do with whether you have a 6 Mbps down/1 Mbps up
ADSL connection or a 250 MBPS down/50 MBPS up fiber connection, but believe
me, I also have some relatively fast systems and I have older slower ones
and IE is equally slow on all of them. When they talk about fast web
browsers and do tests where they set whatever benchmarks are being used I am
sure there is a reason why Chrome is always performing much higher than IE
or why, for that matter, pretty much most modern chromium based browsers do.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I dont notice it being slow. But I run very fast systems.


On 7/2/2019 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason
(extremely rare now) is how slow it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun
Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when
that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do
what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each
will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge
is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on
occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried
water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.





On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:


Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web
browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth
on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks
think is best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com>



Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel>
, or

Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>


















moderated Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

Zel Iscel
 

Hi.

I found that Jaws doesn't say "blank" when I open a web page with krome after I went into Chrome settings and turned on the accessibility features.

Jaws also lags sometimes when I switch windows then return to Chrome. However, it resumes working when I press f5 to refresh the screen. Maximising the screen doesn't help.

Hope this helps.
Cheers
Zel

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: Monday, 8 July 2019 11:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

This happens to me frequently. If I go out of J19 and use NVDA to get to the site, then go back to J19, everything is fine after that. Pain in the neck and elsewhere. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be an annoyance.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 10:29:00 -0600
"james hooper" <rockiesfan296@gmail.com> wrote:

So that is the problem, when I try using Krome with the latest jaws 2019 and windows 1903 when I open a web page with krome it just says blank, any thoughts.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I don't think how fast IE is has anything to do with how fast your system is. It may have a bit to do with whether you have a 6 Mbps down/1 Mbps up ADSL connection or a 250 MBPS down/50 MBPS up fiber connection, but believe me, I also have some relatively fast systems and I have older slower ones and IE is equally slow on all of them. When they talk about fast web browsers and do tests where they set whatever benchmarks are being used I am sure there is a reason why Chrome is always performing much higher than IE or why, for that matter, pretty much most modern chromium based browsers do.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I dont notice it being slow. But I run very fast systems.


On 7/2/2019 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason (extremely rare now) is how slow it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun
Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.





On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:


Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com>



Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel>
, or

Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>


















moderated Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

Mike Rogers
 

This happens to me frequently. If I go out of J19 and use NVDA to get to the site, then go back to J19, everything is fine after that. Pain in the neck and elsewhere. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be an annoyance.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 10:29:00 -0600
"james hooper" <rockiesfan296@gmail.com> wrote:

So that is the problem, when I try using Krome with the latest jaws 2019 and windows 1903 when I open a web page with krome it just says blank, any thoughts.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I don't think how fast IE is has anything to do with how fast your system is. It may have a bit to do with whether you have a 6 Mbps down/1 Mbps up ADSL connection or a 250 MBPS down/50 MBPS up fiber connection, but believe me, I also have some relatively fast systems and I have older slower ones and IE is equally slow on all of them. When they talk about fast web browsers and do tests where they set whatever benchmarks are being used I am sure there is a reason why Chrome is always performing much higher than IE or why, for that matter, pretty much most modern chromium based browsers do.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I dont notice it being slow. But I run very fast systems.


On 7/2/2019 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason (extremely rare now) is how slow it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun
Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.





On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:


Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com>



Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel>
, or

Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>


















moderated Re: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

 

Have you unloaded and re-loaded Jaws or, if that doesn't help, do a reboot of the computer and see if that makes a difference on the same website.
What if you open the same website with IE or Edge?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 9:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

So that is the problem, when I try using Krome with the latest jaws 2019 and windows 1903 when I open a web page with krome it just says blank, any thoughts.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I don't think how fast IE is has anything to do with how fast your system is. It may have a bit to do with whether you have a 6 Mbps down/1 Mbps up ADSL connection or a 250 MBPS down/50 MBPS up fiber connection, but believe me, I also have some relatively fast systems and I have older slower ones and IE is equally slow on all of them. When they talk about fast web browsers and do tests where they set whatever benchmarks are being used I am sure there is a reason why Chrome is always performing much higher than IE or why, for that matter, pretty much most modern chromium based browsers do.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I dont notice it being slow. But I run very fast systems.


On 7/2/2019 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason (extremely rare now) is how slow it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun
Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.





On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:


Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com>



Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel>
, or

Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>











moderated having an issue where when i use krome it just says blank

james hooper
 

So that is the problem, when I try using Krome with the latest jaws 2019 and windows 1903 when I open a web page with krome it just says blank, any thoughts.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I don't think how fast IE is has anything to do with how fast your system is. It may have a bit to do with whether you have a 6 Mbps down/1 Mbps up ADSL connection or a 250 MBPS down/50 MBPS up fiber connection, but believe me, I also have some relatively fast systems and I have older slower ones and IE is equally slow on all of them. When they talk about fast web browsers and do tests where they set whatever benchmarks are being used I am sure there is a reason why Chrome is always performing much higher than IE or why, for that matter, pretty much most modern chromium based browsers do.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I dont notice it being slow. But I run very fast systems.


On 7/2/2019 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason (extremely rare now) is how slow it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun
Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.





On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:


Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com>



Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel>
, or

Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>











moderated Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

Rob Whyte <rob.whyte@...>
 

Hi Sieghard,

Thanks for the review, I agree it is hard to find a keyboard that ticks all the boxes.

 

Cheers

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2019 10:50 PM
To: viphone@...
Subject: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

Hi,

 

I thought it would be OK to post a brief review here on the Logitech G613 wireless mechanical gaming keyboard since just as myself I assume others also are always looking for the “perfect” keyboard.

This Logitech G613 “Lightspeed” wireless mechanical gaming keyboard can connect to iOS via Bluetooth and to a PC using the supplied USB receiver which then let’s you take advantage of the “Lightspeed” 1 millisecond delay which is pretty impressive (if you connect to a PC with Bluetooth this does not apply and while it’s probably still just as good as any other Bluetooth keyboard, it sort of makes sense to make the most of this keyboard’s features).

I still use my trusty Logitech K780 at home where I have it connected to my laptop via Bluetooth as well as to my iPhone and Apple TV, but I bought the G613 for my main PC at work and I must say so far it’s getting pretty close to that perfect score.

Unlike most wired mechanical gaming keyboards this does not have all the fancy RGB lighting options which of course is fine for me. The one thing I am not super fond of are the 6 F1 through fF6 function keys in a vertical column down the left side of the keyboard with maybe half an inch of space between them and the left most keys like Control, Shift, Caps Lock, Tab, ` and Escape. But I also bought a wired Logitech mechanical keyboard and it also has them, most mechanical keyboards are designed for gamers rather than people who want a mechanical keyboard for typing. It takes a bit of getting used to not accidently pressing them. gamers can configure these keys as macro keys to perform whatever actions gamers want.

Apart from that the keyboard has a very traditional layout with nice spaces between the blocks of function keys, the inverted cursor T, the 6-pack with Insert/Delete, Page Up/Down and Home/End, of course the number pad and above that it has 4 more slightly lower media keys for Play/Pause, Stop, Rewind and Forward.

At the very top is a slider switch which locks the Windows key which apparently gamers like so they don’t accidently press it and Cortana/the search box pops up, then there are two buttons which switch between the USB Lightspeed connection and the Bluetooth connection and once the Bluetooth connection to the iPhone has been established all it takes is to press the Bluetooth button in order to switch to the phone and the USB button to switch back.

On the very top right is a large key which is a volume rocker, press the left side for down and the right side for up and beside that is a Mute button. Finally on the right side towards the back is a on/off slider switch.

The keyboard runs on 2 AA batteries and is supposed to give you 18 month of battery life.

There is a proper application key on the right side of the spacebar which works, but there is no Windows key on the right side which is something you don’t hardly see any more.

 

Logitech uses their own Romer-G switches and not Cherry MXswitches. The Romer-G are most like Cherry Brown, a nice distance of travel, but not hard to press and relatively quiet for mechanical keys.

They do take a bit of getting used to, but I quite like them. For those who want to read more about them, below is a link to a review from Tom’s Hardware:

 

Logitech’s Romer-G Switches – Are they any good?

 

The other nice thing about this keyboard is it’s relatively reasonable price, I paid $129.99 Canadian for it, believe I read that on a good deal you can pick it up in the US for as low as $70 US.

Wireless mechanical keyboards are not out there too much yet, I did find a couple more made by the company “Das Keyboard” but they are more expensive although I may order them from Amazon to test and if I don’t like them at least as much or better send them back. My other 2 computers at my store where I have a Logitech MK510 keyboard and mouse combo both start to show their wear on the keyboards and I want to see if using mechanical keyboards won’t change the fact that many of the keyboards which are mostly out there these days are typically done after 2 or at most 3 years of heavy use.

As with all mechanical keyboards keep in mind that the Logitech G613 is heavy compared to other non-mechanical wireless keyboards.

And one last thing which is nice, this keyboard has function keys which work as function keys out of the box and as much as I also like my K780, it’s a bit of a pain to have to install the not very accessible Logitech Options software just so you can change the function keys to behave like function keys instead of media keys.

 

 

Happy typing,

Sieghard

 

 

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moderated Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

Hi,

 

I thought it would be OK to post a brief review here on the Logitech G613 wireless mechanical gaming keyboard since just as myself I assume others also are always looking for the “perfect” keyboard.

This Logitech G613 “Lightspeed” wireless mechanical gaming keyboard can connect to iOS via Bluetooth and to a PC using the supplied USB receiver which then let’s you take advantage of the “Lightspeed” 1 millisecond delay which is pretty impressive (if you connect to a PC with Bluetooth this does not apply and while it’s probably still just as good as any other Bluetooth keyboard, it sort of makes sense to make the most of this keyboard’s features).

I still use my trusty Logitech K780 at home where I have it connected to my laptop via Bluetooth as well as to my iPhone and Apple TV, but I bought the G613 for my main PC at work and I must say so far it’s getting pretty close to that perfect score.

Unlike most wired mechanical gaming keyboards this does not have all the fancy RGB lighting options which of course is fine for me. The one thing I am not super fond of are the 6 F1 through fF6 function keys in a vertical column down the left side of the keyboard with maybe half an inch of space between them and the left most keys like Control, Shift, Caps Lock, Tab, ` and Escape. But I also bought a wired Logitech mechanical keyboard and it also has them, most mechanical keyboards are designed for gamers rather than people who want a mechanical keyboard for typing. It takes a bit of getting used to not accidently pressing them. gamers can configure these keys as macro keys to perform whatever actions gamers want.

Apart from that the keyboard has a very traditional layout with nice spaces between the blocks of function keys, the inverted cursor T, the 6-pack with Insert/Delete, Page Up/Down and Home/End, of course the number pad and above that it has 4 more slightly lower media keys for Play/Pause, Stop, Rewind and Forward.

At the very top is a slider switch which locks the Windows key which apparently gamers like so they don’t accidently press it and Cortana/the search box pops up, then there are two buttons which switch between the USB Lightspeed connection and the Bluetooth connection and once the Bluetooth connection to the iPhone has been established all it takes is to press the Bluetooth button in order to switch to the phone and the USB button to switch back.

On the very top right is a large key which is a volume rocker, press the left side for down and the right side for up and beside that is a Mute button. Finally on the right side towards the back is a on/off slider switch.

The keyboard runs on 2 AA batteries and is supposed to give you 18 month of battery life.

There is a proper application key on the right side of the spacebar which works, but there is no Windows key on the right side which is something you don’t hardly see any more.

 

Logitech uses their own Romer-G switches and not Cherry MXswitches. The Romer-G are most like Cherry Brown, a nice distance of travel, but not hard to press and relatively quiet for mechanical keys.

They do take a bit of getting used to, but I quite like them. For those who want to read more about them, below is a link to a review from Tom’s Hardware:

 

Logitech’s Romer-G Switches – Are they any good?

 

The other nice thing about this keyboard is it’s relatively reasonable price, I paid $129.99 Canadian for it, believe I read that on a good deal you can pick it up in the US for as low as $70 US.

Wireless mechanical keyboards are not out there too much yet, I did find a couple more made by the company “Das Keyboard” but they are more expensive although I may order them from Amazon to test and if I don’t like them at least as much or better send them back. My other 2 computers at my store where I have a Logitech MK510 keyboard and mouse combo both start to show their wear on the keyboards and I want to see if using mechanical keyboards won’t change the fact that many of the keyboards which are mostly out there these days are typically done after 2 or at most 3 years of heavy use.

As with all mechanical keyboards keep in mind that the Logitech G613 is heavy compared to other non-mechanical wireless keyboards.

And one last thing which is nice, this keyboard has function keys which work as function keys out of the box and as much as I also like my K780, it’s a bit of a pain to have to install the not very accessible Logitech Options software just so you can change the function keys to behave like function keys instead of media keys.

 

 

Happy typing,

Sieghard

 


moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

I don't think how fast IE is has anything to do with how fast your system is. It may have a bit to do with whether you have a 6 Mbps down/1 Mbps up ADSL connection or a 250 MBPS down/50 MBPS up fiber connection, but believe me, I also have some relatively fast systems and I have older slower ones and IE is equally slow on all of them. When they talk about fast web browsers and do tests where they set whatever benchmarks are being used I am sure there is a reason why Chrome is always performing much higher than IE or why, for that matter, pretty much most modern chromium based browsers do.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I dont notice it being slow. But I run very fast systems.


On 7/2/2019 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason (extremely rare now) is how slow it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun
Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.





On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:


Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com>



Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel>
, or

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moderated test..ignore

Morey Worthington
 

Ignore


moderated Re: Inserting a worksheet into a new excel document

Mark Fisher
 

Hi,

There are several ways to achieve this but try this one.

1.       Open both the workbook containing the sheet you want to copy and the workbook you wish to copy the sheet into.

2.       Go to the sheet you want to copy or move.

3.       Press F6 to cycle to the Sheet tab name - JAWS will say "Sheet Tab, TAB NAME tab". 
where TABNAME will be the name of the tab ie Sheet1 or whatever you've named the tab.

4.       Press the Applications key to display the equivalent of the right mouse click menu and arrow down until you here "Move or Copy Sheet"

5.       Select this option.  You will be asked to “move sheet before “ and be placed in a list of all the sheets in the workbook.

6.       Press Shift+Tab to move into a combo box and JAWS will say “To Book” and the current file name will be spoken.

7.       You can now arrow through the combo box and choose which file to move or copy the sheet into including to a new blank workbook.

8.       Once you’ve made your choice, tab down to the “Create a coy” check box. Check this if you want to copy the sheet leaving the original untouched. Leave blank if you want to move the sheet from the current file to the new file.

9.       Tab to the OK option and press Enter. The sheet will be moved or copied depending on your choice and you will be in the new file.

This is the same option to move sheets around in a workbook as well. Be careful of copying sheets with embedded links to other tabs in the file.

You can also get to this option by using the old command Alt+E M (Edit Move).

Hope this helps

 

Mark

 

10.    


moderated Re: Microsoft Word settings in Jaws

 

Once MS-Word is open for any document, including a blank one:

1.  Hit ALT+F, T   File Menu/Tab, Options

2.  Down arrow until you reach the Proofing features, then TAB over to get to the individual controls

3. Navigate to the When correcting spelling and grammar in Word section

4. Uncheck the following two checkboxes:
             Check spelling as you type
             Mark grammar errors as you type
             And take a look at the other two, but I don't think those must be unchecked

5. Close out of Options and back to Word

These choices should remain for all documents until or unless you alter them again.

 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Microsoft Word settings in Jaws

T. Civitello
 

How do I get MS word to stop saying “spelling error” and “grammatical error”?  Thanks Tom


moderated Re: Google Mail in standard view

Ann Byrne
 

It works much better in HTML view. there are even some hot keys--alt c to create, alt i to go to the inbox. When it says 'standard view' you are in HTML view. Press 'x' for the checkbox associated with an email. You can 'x' your way quickly through the mailbox.

At 04:28 PM 7/6/2019, you wrote:
Hello
I am looking for some Google chrome commands to use with JAWS and tips on using Gmail with JAWS
thank you
Palmer

--
Palmer from CBVI


moderated Re: Google Mail in standard view

Marianne Denning
 

Use X to jump from email to email and to check one that you want to delete. Insert F5 has a lot of great options. You can find delete, compose, and reply there. Insert F7 also has some great options for finding a link to reply and reply all. HTH


On Jul 6, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Palmer Loux <plmrlx@...> wrote:

Hello
I am looking for some Google chrome commands to use with JAWS and tips on using Gmail with JAWS
thank you
Palmer

--
Palmer from CBVI


moderated Google Mail in standard view

Palmer Loux
 

Hello
I am looking for some Google chrome commands to use with JAWS and tips on using Gmail with JAWS
thank you
Palmer

--
Palmer from CBVI


moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

I dont notice it being slow. But I run very fast systems.

On 7/2/2019 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason (extremely rare now) is how slow it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.





On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:


Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com>



Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel>
, or

Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>










moderated Re: trading on e-trade

Michael Baldwin
 

Sure, we can chat off list about trading and the like, but this info might be helpful to others so I'll leave it on here.


This is how it do options on ETrade with Chrome and Jaws 18.

After loging in, I press e to go to the first edit field to enter my symbol.

I have to do ctrl+a before entering the symbol.

For this example I am going to use TER, it formed a doji on Friday so i want to watch it for a possible gap up on Monday to see if it is going to go bullish.

Ctrl+f to find "Last Price".

Up arrow, in this case 5 times, until Jaws reads the options link.

Can also press 1 to go to the first heading which will read the company name, then down arrow until Jaws reads the options link.

I like the first way because sometimes they will have the upcoming earnings or dividends listed between the "last Price" and the links.

Selecting the options link takes you to a basic options chain that has calls on the left and puts on the right.

Pressing T takes you to the start of the table, and Jaws reads "calls span 7".

I down arrow once to hear the date of the current chain, and it will always be the most recent chain.

I now use the ctrl+alt+down arrow. What Jaws reads seems to depend on the browser. In Chrome I get "last", and in IE I get "Bid".

In either case I continue holding down the ctrl+alt and use the right arrow key until I here "strike Price".

ETrade shows 7 strike prices by default, so the fourth one down is the ATM strike.

Using TER for an example, that would be the $47 strike.

I am bullish on TER so I use ctrl+alt+left arrow to read the call info for the 47 strike, it goes ask, bid, last, change, volume, open interest, details link, trade link.

    Open interest for this strike is 283, I ctrl+alt+up and down arrow through the open interest of the other strikes, because some times high open interest is where the institutions have placed there bets.

The 48 Strike is 1091, 50 has a lot more, but that is to far OTM for the time that is left for me.
I ctrl+alt+left arrow to go to the details link on the 48 strike for the 48 call, and select that link.
On the new screen I press T to get to the start of the table that has last, change, bid, ask, volume, and a links to buy or sell.
Press T a second time takes you to a table that has open, previous close, open interest, intrinsic value, time premium, and option type. This table has the labels down the left side, and the values down the right.
T a third time gets you a different table, but is an extension of the previously described one with last day of trading, expiration date, exercise style, and options multiplier.
The 4th table is a very minimal options chain with detail links for 5 strikes with calls on the left and puts on the right. I don't find it very useful.
The 5th table has the current ticker information.
Under the 5th table are charts, No short cut to get to them, so you have to go to the 5th table and arrow through to that info, but I don't find it useful.
The 6th table is a form that lets you adjust some of the variables that effect option pricing.
The 7th table has the Greeks.
Under that is disclaimers.

If you wish to trade this option under the first table select the buy or sell link. The buy is for buy to open, and sell is for sell to open. This can be changed on the order entry screen so it doesn't really matter which link is selected.
The option info strike, expiration and type are prefilled in when going to the order entry, but in Chrome, if I were to change one thing, it removes all info and I have to enter it directly, IE doesn't have this problem, but it takes 30 seconds or so for the order entry screen to open. I am guessing this has to do with some settings in my browser, but not sure.

Going back to the basics option chain, the first page after selecting options from the symbols quote page.
To change the date of the options chain I press T to get to the start of the options chain table and press up arrow.
The date layout seems to vary on browsers for some reason as well.
3 presses of the up arrow takes me to "all months", Jaws doesn't say link but it is clickable. I find using the space bar is more consistent for activating it instead of using the enter key, not sure why it would make a difference. In chrome I also need to do it twice. The first time jumps the cursor to somewhere different on the screen for some reason. Trying to view all months on something like the SPY with lots of expiration dates will get you an error.

The next press of the up arrow should get you "graphic osi/b_arrow_rt_inactive". If Jaws doesn't read this, you'll need to turn graphics to all. Selecting this advances the date list by one more in to the future. For TER all available dates are shown, but on the SPY they wouldn't be.

One more up arrow takes you to the list of the dates. The layout seems to differ depending on browser and symbol. Sometimes Jaws reads them all left to right, and in this case I use the ctrl+right arrow to read word by word and when I get to the one I want I press space bar. Sometimes Jaws will read a new date with each press of the up or down arrow, depending where you are in the list. And other times there it one date per line, but the next line might have multiple dates on it.

When Jaws reads "graphic osi/b_arrow_lft_inactive" you are at the top of the date list. This of course moves the dates back if you went to far forward, does not show anything in the past.

Starting back at the top of this screen I press C for the first Combo box. This lets you change the option chain from the standard calls and puts to puts or calls only, various spreads, and other options strategies.

Below that is an edit box for changing the number of strikes displayed. You can enter a number or "all". This updates when you tab away from the edit field. The previous combo box does not do that.

The next edit box is to change the price where you show strike prices near. I like ITM options so instead of showing all strike prices I could adjust the table to show the strikes near 40. This also updates when tabbing away.

Down arrow a few more times and Jaws will say "Graphic osi/b_go_act", this is what you select if you change something in the form and it doesn't update.

Below that is a checkbox for adjusted options.

I think that pretty much covers stuff for the options, feel free to ask if I wasn't clear on something.

Michael
mbaldwin577@...


On 7/5/2019 10:15 AM, mike mcglashon wrote:
right now to view and option chain I have to go to MarketWatch or Yahoo finance.
Apparently to go get the probabilities of full profit and loss on E*TRADE there’s an option to click her but you only you can only click on it with a mouse.
I haven’t figured out how to view the change themselves on the E*TRADE platform.
However we probably want to go off list with this because now we might be getting into stuff that is in jars anymore.


contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@...


On Jul 5, 2019, at 8:13 AM, Michael Baldwin <mbaldwin577@...> wrote:

I use ETrade for stock and options. No major issues for me. The one thing that bugs the heck out of me is I have to delete the word "symbol" before putting in my ticker to get a quote on. They have also changed some formatting recently so I can no longer press "t" to get to the top of the quote. In Chrome on the order screen for either stock or options, i have to re-enter all the information, but in IE I don't, but it runs a lot slower loading the order screen for some reason.


The options chain can be viewed on a few different pages, how are  you viewing it?

Michael

On 7/2/2019 2:55 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:

Hey guys:

 

Is there anyone on this list who trades stocks and/or options with e-trade using jaws?

 

I currently trade on that platform, and,

I find the stock order sheets good but the options chains don’t seem to read with jaws, meaning,

I cannot hit enter on the options chain, a mouse click seems to only do;

 

Any tricks or tips will be most appreciated.

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 




moderated Re: Jaws with Power Point Tutorial

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Jaffar,

While I'm not able to provide personal assistance in the use of Powerpoint there are definitely resources available.

First, Freedom Scientific has archived two recent webinars on Powerpoint.

While Brian Hartgen's course covering Powerpoint with JAWS is not free it's certainly worth considering as Brian is an excellent trainer.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/5/2019 11:51 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi.  I have to come up with a Power Point presentation in two weeks presenting my ideas for a software project for my company. I believe there are some of you here who are very good with using Jaws with Power Point.  If you are able to help, Please contact me off list at jaffar_sidek@... so we can discuss some financial arrangement to compensate for your time.  I would prefer written documentation so that I can keep it for future reference as I will be called upon to come up with more presentations in the future.  Please do not clutter the list with your replies but contact me directly via the address given above.  On list replies will not be entertained.  Thank you and cheers!