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moderated Re: Jaws with Power Point Tutorial

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Jaffar,

While I'm not able to provide personal assistance in the use of Powerpoint there are definitely resources available.

First, Freedom Scientific has archived two recent webinars on Powerpoint.

While Brian Hartgen's course covering Powerpoint with JAWS is not free it's certainly worth considering as Brian is an excellent trainer.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/5/2019 11:51 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi.  I have to come up with a Power Point presentation in two weeks presenting my ideas for a software project for my company. I believe there are some of you here who are very good with using Jaws with Power Point.  If you are able to help, Please contact me off list at jaffar_sidek@... so we can discuss some financial arrangement to compensate for your time.  I would prefer written documentation so that I can keep it for future reference as I will be called upon to come up with more presentations in the future.  Please do not clutter the list with your replies but contact me directly via the address given above.  On list replies will not be entertained.  Thank you and cheers!


moderated Window Classes: JAWS equivalent to wxWindowClassNR?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I'm using Codeblocks, trying to configure a project to be made with WX Widgets, and I'm a bit confused. What is a wxWindowClassNR? Most importantly, what is its equivalent in JAWS? Is it a HeaderBar? A dialog? A frame? A static? A ReadOnlyEdit?


moderated Jaws with Power Point Tutorial

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  I have to come up with a Power Point presentation in two weeks presenting my ideas for a software project for my company. I believe there are some of you here who are very good with using Jaws with Power Point.  If you are able to help, Please contact me off list at jaffar_sidek@hotmail.com so we can discuss some financial arrangement to compensate for your time.  I would prefer written documentation so that I can keep it for future reference as I will be called upon to come up with more presentations in the future.  Please do not clutter the list with your replies but contact me directly via the address given above.  On list replies will not be entertained.  Thank you and cheers!

--
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Melodies paint a thousand dreams;
Music paints a thousand worlds;
Movies light up fantasy screens.


moderated Re: Inserting a worksheet into a new excel document

Ann Byrne
 

alt+h, then o, then m. the workbook you want to move into needs to gbe open, I think.

At 10:18 PM 7/5/2019, you wrote:
Hi!
Any help would be appreciated. I am using Jaws 2019, excel 2016.

I have an excel worksheet which I want to insert into a different workbook. Is there a way to do this?
Again thanks for your help.




Janet
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whomsoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.â€&#65533;
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moderated Inserting a worksheet into a new excel document

Janet George
 

Hi!
Any help would be appreciated. I am using Jaws 2019, excel 2016.

I have an excel worksheet which I want to insert into a different workbook. Is there a way to do this?
Again thanks for your help.




Janet
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whomsoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3: 16


moderated Re: trading on e-trade

Kelly Pierce
 

Have you been in touch with attorney Lainey Finegold? A few years
ago, she settle a Web access case with E-Trade. I am confident she
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On 7/5/19, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
right now to view and option chain I have to go to MarketWatch or Yahoo
finance.
Apparently to go get the probabilities of full profit and loss on E*TRADE
there’s an option to click her but you only you can only click on it with a
mouse.
I haven’t figured out how to view the change themselves on the E*TRADE
platform.
However we probably want to go off list with this because now we might be
getting into stuff that is in jars anymore.


contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@comcast.net


On Jul 5, 2019, at 8:13 AM, Michael Baldwin <mbaldwin577@gmail.com>
wrote:

I use ETrade for stock and options. No major issues for me. The one thing
that bugs the heck out of me is I have to delete the word "symbol" before
putting in my ticker to get a quote on. They have also changed some
formatting recently so I can no longer press "t" to get to the top of the
quote. In Chrome on the order screen for either stock or options, i have
to re-enter all the information, but in IE I don't, but it runs a lot
slower loading the order screen for some reason.



The options chain can be viewed on a few different pages, how are you
viewing it?

Michael

On 7/2/2019 2:55 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Hey guys:



Is there anyone on this list who trades stocks and/or options with
e-trade using jaws?



I currently trade on that platform, and,

I find the stock order sheets good but the options chains don’t seem to
read with jaws, meaning,

I cannot hit enter on the options chain, a mouse click seems to only do;



Any tricks or tips will be most appreciated.



Please advise as you like.



Mike M.



Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net

Ph: 618 783 9331





moderated Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

I think your questions are clarified if you are able to read the entire
thread which is included below.

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use


So is this folder of shortcuts on your hard drive?
You probably could copy and paste the folder on to your desktop.
Or, create a shortcut to the folder and put it on the desktop.
I didn't catch the beginning of this thread.
Later,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic."
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www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Barbara <batterseye@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

OK. I am not sure I was clear enough with my first inquiry. I am not
copying a specific web site, but an entire folder of them. Smile.

Barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

This works with amy browser, hilight the URL by doing alt-d and ctrl-a and
then copy to the clipboard using ctrl-c. Now go to that favorites folder
and do alt-h-w-s and paste the URL into the edit box, hit next and name
the
shortcut.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:13:57 -0400,
Barbara wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hello David,



I like your idea below. I have been using both Firefox and Internet
Explorer. I recently installed Chrome. I placed on my desktop a link to
the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder. So now I can use this same
list for both of the browsers. However when I tried to use this with
Chrome, it did not work. I got garbage for web results. Do I need to
change the Favorites file format for Chrome? Is there a specific method I
must use to access the desktop folder?
Some other ideas?



I am using a Windows 7 computer.



Thanks.



Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues









From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?



Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome,
favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is
very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.



If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can
open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default
browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no
effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to
change your default

browser via the Control Panel.



Regards,

David





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How do
you spend it?

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covici@ccs.covici.com






moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

david
 

Hello;
I have never experienced anything like this,
In the latest version of Jaws 17 & in all later versions of Jaws, you can run these versions in their default mode by doing the following:
Press, Insert+ spacebar, then press the letter, Z. This will run Jaws 17 latest & all Jaws later versions in default mode, & this keystroke is a toggle, so just invoke the keystroke again to run them with your settings back.
just would be interested if jaws would work with default settings loaded.

The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 5:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown


These are great suggestions that I may consider after completely reinstalling all FS products.
Jaws 2019 makes it so none of my program shortcuts work.
I have lots setup for all the programs I run.
But, if Jaws 2019 is loaded, none of them work.
If I load Jaws 2018, they all work.
Neither FS or Microsoft have a clue why that is.
So for now, Narrator will be my logon and shutdown program of choice.
It loads faster than even Jaws 2019, so pretty simple solution.
Thanks again all,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 2:04 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

I almost always use the run command, just have gotten used to it,
unless after a windows update where you have to hit their restart
button.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:19:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:


Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard


Richard

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On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

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On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

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On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





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How do
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How do
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moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner
 

These are great suggestions that I may consider after completely reinstalling all FS products.
Jaws 2019 makes it so none of my program shortcuts work.
I have lots setup for all the programs I run.
But, if Jaws 2019 is loaded, none of them work.
If I load Jaws 2018, they all work.
Neither FS or Microsoft have a clue why that is.
So for now, Narrator will be my logon and shutdown program of choice.
It loads faster than even Jaws 2019, so pretty simple solution.
Thanks again all,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 2:04 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

I almost always use the run command, just have gotten used to it,
unless after a windows update where you have to hit their restart
button.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:19:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:


Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426113986&amp;sdata=F1OVqSpb%2FSsjrXTZ990edr%2B1a9UoM4H84FKTFItHXd4%3D&amp;reserved=0

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How do
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covici@ccs.covici.com




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How do
you spend it?

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covici@ccs.covici.com



moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

John Covici
 

I almost always use the run command, just have gotten used to it,
unless after a windows update where you have to hit their restart
button.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:19:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:


Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&amp;sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&amp;sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&amp;sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&amp;reserved=0

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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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covici@ccs.covici.com




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How do
you spend it?

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covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Mario
 

BTW, this works for Windows 7 and 10.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 5, 2019, 4:59 PM
Subject: Blocked shutdown

as John suggested, you can put the command in a desktop shortcut and
assign a shortcut to trigger a shutdown.

in the target edit field type exactly or copy/paste:

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 0

the keystroke I assigned is control+alt+shift+s. assign whatever keys
you'd like.

the s is for shutdown and the t is for milliseconds.
you can create one for restarting, just sub r for s.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 5, 2019, 4:19 PM
Subject: Blocked shutdown


Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or
restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names
in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&amp;sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come
through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and
after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting
down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&amp;sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will
pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5
seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I
go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is
nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down
with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&amp;sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&amp;reserved=0

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Mario
 

as John suggested, you can put the command in a desktop shortcut and
assign a shortcut to trigger a shutdown.

in the target edit field type exactly or copy/paste:

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 0

the keystroke I assigned is control+alt+shift+s. assign whatever keys
you'd like.

the s is for shutdown and the t is for milliseconds.
you can create one for restarting, just sub r for s.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 5, 2019, 4:19 PM
Subject: Blocked shutdown


Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or
restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names
in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&amp;sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come
through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and
after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting
down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&amp;sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will
pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5
seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I
go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is
nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down
with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&amp;sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&amp;reserved=0

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59





















--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

Richard Turner
 

So is this folder of shortcuts on your hard drive?
You probably could copy and paste the folder on to your desktop.
Or, create a shortcut to the folder and put it on the desktop.
I didn't catch the beginning of this thread.
Later,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Barbara <batterseye@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

OK. I am not sure I was clear enough with my first inquiry. I am not
copying a specific web site, but an entire folder of them. Smile.

Barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

This works with amy browser, hilight the URL by doing alt-d and ctrl-a and
then copy to the clipboard using ctrl-c. Now go to that favorites folder
and do alt-h-w-s and paste the URL into the edit box, hit next and name the
shortcut.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:13:57 -0400,
Barbara wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hello David,



I like your idea below. I have been using both Firefox and Internet
Explorer. I recently installed Chrome. I placed on my desktop a link to
the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder. So now I can use this same
list for both of the browsers. However when I tried to use this with
Chrome, it did not work. I got garbage for web results. Do I need to
change the Favorites file format for Chrome? Is there a specific method I
must use to access the desktop folder?
Some other ideas?



I am using a Windows 7 computer.



Thanks.



Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues









From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?



Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome,
favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is
very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.



If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can
open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default
browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no
effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to
change your default

browser via the Control Panel.



Regards,

David





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com






moderated Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

OK. I am not sure I was clear enough with my first inquiry. I am not
copying a specific web site, but an entire folder of them. Smile.

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

This works with amy browser, hilight the URL by doing alt-d and ctrl-a and
then copy to the clipboard using ctrl-c. Now go to that favorites folder
and do alt-h-w-s and paste the URL into the edit box, hit next and name the
shortcut.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:13:57 -0400,
Barbara wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hello David,



I like your idea below. I have been using both Firefox and Internet
Explorer. I recently installed Chrome. I placed on my desktop a link to
the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder. So now I can use this same
list for both of the browsers. However when I tried to use this with
Chrome, it did not work. I got garbage for web results. Do I need to
change the Favorites file format for Chrome? Is there a specific method I
must use to access the desktop folder?
Some other ideas?



I am using a Windows 7 computer.



Thanks.



Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues









From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?



Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome,
favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is
very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.



If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can
open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default
browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no
effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to
change your default

browser via the Control Panel.



Regards,

David





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner
 

Thanks, but been there done that.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:31 PM, netbat66 <netbat66@gmail.com> wrote:

try this. tab once then press enter.
or just enter if you want to cancel the shutdown.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shut down



Thanks Dan but I cannot get to the shut down anyway button. Jaws just goes silently into the ether.



Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C6b227184ec684d2d842708d70187cccb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979555069380799&amp;sdata=P%2FmEmRsj5gCqOvVe1qBrE8PLwbrjBZgbmdoQ2m9w2MQ%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@gmail.com> wrote:




Hi Richard,

I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both. I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter. All seems to be well. At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down.



Dan





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down





If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C6b227184ec684d2d842708d70187cccb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979555069380799&amp;sdata=P%2FmEmRsj5gCqOvVe1qBrE8PLwbrjBZgbmdoQ2m9w2MQ%3D&amp;reserved=0

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59












moderated Re: Blocked shut down

netbat66
 

try this. tab once then press enter.
or just enter if you want to cancel the shutdown.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shut down



Thanks Dan but I cannot get to the shut down anyway button. Jaws just goes silently into the ether.



Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@gmail.com> wrote:




Hi Richard,

I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both. I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter. All seems to be well. At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down.



Dan





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down





If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


moderated Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

John Covici
 

This works with amy browser, hilight the URL by doing alt-d and ctrl-a
and then copy to the clipboard using ctrl-c. Now go to that favorites
folder and do alt-h-w-s and paste the URL into the edit box, hit next
and name the shortcut.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:13:57 -0400,
Barbara wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
Hello David,



I like your idea below. I have been using both Firefox and Internet Explorer. I recently installed Chrome. I placed on my desktop a link to the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder. So now I can use this same list for both of the
browsers. However when I tried to use this with Chrome, it did not work. I got garbage for web results. Do I need to change the Favorites file format for Chrome? Is there a specific method I must use to access the desktop folder?
Some other ideas?



I am using a Windows 7 computer.



Thanks.



Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues









From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?



Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome, favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.



If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to change your default

browser via the Control Panel.



Regards,

David





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner
 


Thanks Dan but I cannot get to the shut down anyway button. Jaws just goes silently into the ether.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

  I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both.  I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter.  All seems to be well.  At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Dan Longmore
 

Hi Richard,

  I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both.  I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter.  All seems to be well.  At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner
 

Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

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On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@telus.net> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

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On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


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On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





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